Has anyone found a way to tether through one of the Smart Dock USB ports? I'm interested in using the data from my phone but don't want to use the Hotspot function (don't want to root or pay for HotSpot so I wanna use tethering).
This Smart Dock was alot more finnicky that I had thought. For those having trouble, for me at least, HDMI and anything you're connecting via USB have to be plugged into the dock before you dock your phone to get anything to work. I also have to plug in the HDMI to get the USB ports to work which doesn't make sense to me but what do I know. I was surprised the dock doesn't have the full Micro B connector which I thought was necessary to have MHL and USBOTG at the same. If that's not the case, I'm not sure I understand what the extra pins are for on the Micro-B plug. My screen also automatically shuts off when I dock with HDMI, not sure if that's a "feature" or not.
Carsyn said:
Has anyone found a way to tether through one of the Smart Dock USB ports? I'm interested in using the data from my phone but don't want to use the Hotspot function (don't want to root or pay for HotSpot so I wanna use tethering).
This Smart Dock was alot more finnicky that I had thought. For those having trouble, for me at least, HDMI and anything you're connecting via USB have to be plugged into the dock before you dock your phone to get anything to work. I also have to plug in the HDMI to get the USB ports to work which doesn't make sense to me but what do I know. I was surprised the dock doesn't have the full Micro B connector which I thought was necessary to have MHL and USBOTG at the same. If that's not the case, I'm not sure I understand what the extra pins are for on the Micro-B plug. My screen also automatically shuts off when I dock with HDMI, not sure if that's a "feature" or not.
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Maybe it's my model number. I got the EDD-S20EWE. I notice the current one is S20JWE. Or maybe the $60 sale on Amazon got me a knock-off. In any case, there's no way in heck I could recommend this thing to anyone. Too finnicky. One of those gadgets you gotta hold your tongue right to make it work like its supposed to. It works when it wants to for me. I'm driving myself crazy unplugging and plugging stuff back in and restarting things to make it work.
If you want a desktop experience like me, instead of this thing, I'd recommend Screen Mirroring, bluetoothing to keyboard/mouse, and either tethering your data if need that like me, or adding the USB Connector dongle for any other USB items you need. Much less headache from my experience. YMMV.
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Anyone figure out how to get webtop to work on an LCD monitor without the dock? My dock didnt ship yet and I want to test it out...
Thanks.
if it won't give you a prompt when an HDMI cable is connected, then i'm betting that they are telling the phone it's in the dock with a certain resistance on the USB connector. many manufacturers do this to allow devices to know when it's connected to an official accessory or not. For instance, my contourHD helmet cam will charge and record at the same time only if the official usb charger is used. If you use any other one it just charges and refuses to record. there is some talk of it in the USB wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
If someone could figure out the resistance value on an official dock (assuming this is in fact how it's done) you could wire up your own USB cable to trick the phone into thinking it's in a dock.
that's my only idea at the moment.
Figured maybe it was a magnetic trip... couldnt find anything :\
I stopped by Best Buy/Radio Shack after work today to try and find a 'USB 2.0 A to Micro B Female / Male Adaptor' (google it, it's my first reply so I could not post the link).
I was going to try and use my existing laptop dock so I could have additional USB inputs to connect the USB/Mouse, and then use the HDMI cable that came with the phone to plug into my monitor.
Is this something that most likely will not work, because of the reasons stated above?
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I stopped by Best Buy/Radio Shack after work today to try and find a 'USB 2.0 A to Micro B Female / Male Adaptor' (google it, it's my first reply so I could not post the link).
I was going to try and use my existing laptop dock so I could have additional USB inputs to connect the USB/Mouse, and then use the HDMI cable that came with the phone to plug into my monitor.
Is this something that most likely will not work, because of the reasons stated above?
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Don't buy it just yet.
In the Dev section, they're working on allowing the Webtop to be accessible sans dock.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963938
The Atrix obviously can act as a USB Master as in the Media dock you can plug in keyboard mice and HDDs.
Is it possible to use a powered/unpowered usb hub connected directly into the phone when it's in webtop mode?
Nobody can answer this?
It should be if you can find the right adapter/connector. There's an A female-female adapter in amazon I'm eyeing that any do the trick if I can find the right cable to go with it.
I haven't been able to find a micro adapter to connect it directly.
I've been thinking it might be possible to create such an adapter by splicing two cables together.
More interestingly I wonder whether we could create our own charging hub with a three way adapter and a powered hub. Disconnect the ability for the hub to draw power from the phone while using one of the hubs ports to draw power from the hub. Im guessing the docks do something similar. I'm no EE though and wouldn't try it unless someone that knows what their doing tries it and gives instructions (particularly verifying that this is possible and how to conform it want fry the usb port.)
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There's a thread about this over in Atrix 4G Development:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997187
This may seem like a really stupid question, but has anyone tried/succeeded in seeing if this device can charge off USB? That is really the only thing I dislike about it now that I have Dexter, I travel a lot and hauling an extra charger is just a pain.
What about charging thru the docking port if we had a usb cable to fit it?
im sure docking port would work, as it does work with folio100 as example.
but usb charge, is probably a no-go, i guess hardware needs to be redesigned to enable usb charging although kernel does allow you to enable it, but again, maybe a pin of the chip needs to attach to another location on board to enable it.
on folio100 it did not work.. and without kernel source to try changing/enabling it we dont know if it would work..
and remember the port is host/device based, so it might also be it only works when in device mode, which also means travellers would not be able to attach anything if they charge it.. so might be conflicting interests on how it should work. (if it worked)
Thanks for the reply.
I know I've seen this question asked elsewhere, but not for a while. You mentioned the docking port, have we seen ANYTHING that connects to it? even if not a full docking station, a cable to connect via USB to a computer.
Or has anyone figured out a pin map that someone could cobble together a cable
Got the idea a few days ago after looking at the full breakdown of the Xoom...
Here's the idea:
Remove the dock charge contact points, and install a micro switch in its place. With the switch in place, find the proper contact points for ground and the host-mode pin on the micro USB port. Solder some 30 AWG to the contact points on the board, then to the switch, and put everything back together.
This would give you the ability to use any USB cable as a host-mode cable, while only affecting charging on docking units. With the battery life of the Xoom, I don't see it as a deal breaker.
Thoughts?
Well, I only charge on the dock. Way to convenient not to have. I don't trust the standard chargers design to withstand me..
However if you are not a dock user, then it sounds like it would be cool.
Just my opinion, but it seems like a lot of risk and effort for not having to carry around a cable. I mean if you have the standard cable, you still need a male to male adapter to use any usb device. So either way you still need something else besides the standard USB cable. I would rather just have a USB host cable that already has the correct USB ends on it and still be able to use my charging dock.
Again just my opinion, YMMV.
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Just my opinion, but it seems like a lot of risk and effort for not having to carry around a cable. I mean if you have the standard cable, you still need a male to male adapter to use any usb device. So either way you still need something else besides the standard USB cable. I would rather just have a USB host cable that already has the correct USB ends on it and still be able to use my charging dock.
Again just my opinion, YMMV.
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Well normally I'd agree with you, but it seems that most people are having issues getting good cables unless they buy the Motorola cable.
It's easier to find an adapter for the standard USB cable than it is to find an OTG cable as well.
Still just an idea, but I figured I'd see what everyone thought.
all you need is the Motorola Mini-USB to Micro-USB adapter, a USB extension cable and some scissors.
you'd to still carry around a Female-Female adapter for your USB cables with your idea, i'd rather not rip open my xoom and solder **** when the other option is easier.
Also, if you don't plan on upgrading to LTE, you could just wire up a USB port to the card slot for the LTE card, it should have USB routed to it.
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Also, if you don't plan on upgrading to LTE, you could just wire up a USB port to the card slot for the LTE card, it should have USB routed to it.
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This actually sounds like a better idea... Was thinking of how I could add in a full-size USB port to remove the extra cable completely. USB out the top would also allow me to hook up an external HDD and still sit the Xoom up in a cinema position.
The question with doing that though, is will it be recognized as a host-mode connection, and if not how would you get it to act as a host-mode connection without the 'fifth pin'?
Hi guys, is there a way to mirror the phone's screen to other display (let it be a monitor or TV) using USB-C->HDMI cable? Does it matter what cable to buy? Can you recommend one? Are there any caveats to this? Do I need to set the phone somehow or install some app?
Thanks a lot
It will just work from my experience...
I've also bought this thing: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078X9N26D/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It works as dex station if connected to power supply and as hdmi if not.
The only bug for this is that it slowly discharges your phone even if it's connected to power...
it works, you don't need a Dex pad anymore.
I believe any usb c to HDMI will work, but I would recommend using a wireless charger with it.
Probably better off just getting the dex station cause either way you go it would be the same amount of money cause I wouldn't recommend going cheap
I know it's ridiculous to ask; but would a NIntendo Switch Dock actually work? Considering it's similar, and the board can be taken to a Very small case, essentially, a mini dock
miksa said:
Hi guys, is there a way to mirror the phone's screen to other display (let it be a monitor or TV) using USB-C->HDMI cable? Does it matter what cable to buy? Can you recommend one? Are there any caveats to this? Do I need to set the phone somehow or install some app?
Thanks a lot
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In Android Q beta, you can get DEX by using your regular USB cable with the PC