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I've been hearing rumors that tablets in 6 months to a year will make this tablet obsolete. Apparently tablets will be coming out soon with almost twice the processing speed as this currently has, is that true? I have to make a decision on a tablet to buy that will last me at least 2 years before I can buy another one, do you all think that this will last that long? Should I wait another 6 months and buy a better tablet when they start rolling out? I know the developers will keep this going, but like with my HTC Hero, as soon as the next big thing came out, everybody left that device in the dust.
It's a common joke in the tech world to say that by the time you buy your device it's obsolete.
Sadly, it's true. Qualcomm already announced some beastly processors at CES this year, but said they won't show up in devices until 2012. So that's already going to make your device obsolete within a year or so.
I'd say find a device you like now, and buy it. After you buy it be sure to look the other way as other devices get announced.
Also, don't buy into Best Buy's Buyback program, it's a ripoff. You have to sell back within 6 months, and can only get at most 50% of your purchase price back.
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I've been hearing rumors that tablets in 6 months to a year will make this tablet obsolete. Apparently tablets will be coming out soon with almost twice the processing speed as this currently has, is that true? I have to make a decision on a tablet to buy that will last me at least 2 years before I can buy another one, do you all think that this will last that long? Should I wait another 6 months and buy a better tablet when they start rolling out? I know the developers will keep this going, but like with my HTC Hero, as soon as the next big thing came out, everybody left that device in the dust.
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Are you ****ting on me? No really I think it smells funny in here. Of course it will be
Computers and similar products like tablets and smartphones follow the same rule. The motorola Xooms performance will be outshadowed in a year, just like the Evo's performance is already outshadowed by the latest phones coming out.
To expect a technology product of this type to be relevant a year later is not gonna happen lol.
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I've been hearing rumors that tablets in 6 months to a year will make this tablet obsolete. Apparently tablets will be coming out soon with almost twice the processing speed as this currently has, is that true? I have to make a decision on a tablet to buy that will last me at least 2 years before I can buy another one, do you all think that this will last that long? Should I wait another 6 months and buy a better tablet when they start rolling out? I know the developers will keep this going, but like with my HTC Hero, as soon as the next big thing came out, everybody left that device in the dust.
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The quadcores will be coming out (and the IPAD 3 is rumored to come out) at the beginning of next year.
The end of this year, that quadcores will be SAMPLING - meaning prototype devices will be shown, with release schedules in the beginning of the next year around this time.
With any sort of device, you are looking at a 6 month doubling time in technology. Recently that has been speeding up.
To be fair, the google nexus one (also a flagship) still gets regular updates first - the Moto xoom should be similar.
After one year, quadcores will come out - but your tegra 2 will still be usable.
its obsolete already....save ur money...don't buy anything...
Depending on what you mean by obsolete.
As with Android phones, there are severe competition within the Android platform. All big manufacturers refresh their flagship models every few months to take advantage of newer faster better components. If you want to always have to top of the line, the highest-spec Honeycomb tablet, the Xoom may not last for long. It's already been said that the Samsung one may have a better screen and the LG one does 3D... and how knows how many more Honeycomb tablets will be announced at CTIA by the end of this month.
But if you are considering getting a high-end tablet to won't be obsolete in the sense of not getting updates, or the hardware can't keep up with the softwares. You don't really have to worry, for at least a year or more. Your experience with it will only get better as Honeycomb platform gets more mature, for the next year at least.
This is always the case with Android. The faster, nicer looking, longer lasting device with the latest firmware and the newer manufacturer technology is always right around the corner.
Ultimately this is why I chose not to subsidize with a 24 month ($480 dollar + tax) contract.
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Ultimately this is why I chose not to subsidize with a 24 month ($480 dollar + tax) contract.
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You'd have to be stupid to lock a tablet to a 2yr contract lol. How many people do u know that bought subsidized netbooks? Lol
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I would like to introduce you to Moore's Law.
Moore's law describes a long-term trend in the history of computing hardware. The quantity of transistors that can be placed inexpensively on an integrated circuit has doubled approximately every two years. The trend has continued for more than half a century and is not expected to stop until 2015 or 2020 or later.
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Depending on what you mean by obsolete.
As with Android phones, there are severe competition within the Android platform. All big manufacturers refresh their flagship models every few months to take advantage of newer faster better components. If you want to always have to top of the line, the highest-spec Honeycomb tablet, the Xoom may not last for long. It's already been said that the Samsung one may have a better screen and the LG one does 3D... and how knows how many more Honeycomb tablets will be announced at CTIA by the end of this month.
But if you are considering getting a high-end tablet to won't be obsolete in the sense of not getting updates, or the hardware can't keep up with the softwares. You don't really have to worry, for at least a year or more. Your experience with it will only get better as Honeycomb platform gets more mature, for the next year at least.
This is always the case with Android. The faster, nicer looking, longer lasting device with the latest firmware and the newer manufacturer technology is always right around the corner.
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What he said.
Obsolete is such a funny word. People interchange it with top of the line. There will be some games that come out in a year that won't look as good on the Xoom. They'll probably be/are tablets that are better able to decode video. But the Xoom won't tell stories of processing 4 times harder in the snow for a while.
Disregard.
Well, it wont be complete obsolete but NVIDIA already announced that their new quad core processors will be out on tablets by August of 2011. So, thats twice the performance the xoom has now. I'm expecting a Xoom 2 of some kind. I would wait honestly. thats what imma do.
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You'd have to be stupid to lock a tablet to a 2yr contract lol. How many people do u know that bought subsidized netbooks? Lol
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Contract is for a data plan. You can always buy another off contract (full price) and switch them out.
This is something thats frustrating me aswell. £500 is alot of money these days, especially with cost of living increasing, the price of rice etc.
So you kinda want to get a good few years use out of it. And not have to worry about upgrading within 12 months.
And likewise expect adequate support and updates as quickly as possible without feeling abandoned.
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It won't be obsolete but it won't be top of the line anymore. Really, you should buy what makes you happy now, skip the next generation of tablets, and then refresh with whatever 3rd gen comes out in a year or so.
You'd be broke if you tried to keep up with the latest technology. Unless you have that much disposable income...
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Well, it wont be complete obsolete but NVIDIA already announced that their new quad core processors will be out on tablets by August of 2011. So, thats twice the performance the xoom has now. I'm expecting a Xoom 2 of some kind. I would wait honestly. thats what imma do.
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Yeah but if you have that attitude you'll be waiting forever. When the iPad came out I wanted to wait because although it's a great product, I don't like Apple's ethos. When the cheap aPad type tablets came out I wanted to wait because they're a bit dodgy build wise. When the Galaxy Tab came out I wanted to wait because I'm not a fan of the 7 inch form factor. Now the Xoom is out and I'm supposed to wait again, for another what 5/6 months because there MAY be a quad core tab out before the end of the year? No. The Xoom has everything I was waiting for, a proper tablet OS, open ethos (I was dreading an unlockable bootloader), good build quality and 10 inch form factor. It's what I've been waiting for. I'll be damned if I'm going to wait again just for a performance boost that I'm not even sure it needs right now.
Anyway, when the quad cores are out there will be another reason to wait. I can imagine it now. "Oh you're going to buy that quad tab are you? Why don't you wait until Icecream is out next Jan, then you'll be able to have glasses free 3D." Or some such other benefit for waiting. Nah, I'm done waiting, I'm jumping on the tablet train now.
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Yeah but if you have that attitude you'll be waiting forever. When the iPad came out I wanted to wait because although it's a great product, I don't like Apple's ethos. When the cheap aPad type tablets came out I wanted to wait because they're a bit dodgy build wise. When the Galaxy Tab came out I wanted to wait because I'm not a fan of the 7 inch form factor. Now the Xoom is out and I'm supposed to wait again, for another what 5/6 months because there MAY be a quad core tab out before the end of the year? No. The Xoom has everything I was waiting for, a proper tablet OS, open ethos (I was dreading an unlockable bootloader), good build quality and 10 inch form factor. It's what I've been waiting for. I'll be damned if I'm going to wait again just for a performance boost that I'm not even sure it needs right now.
Anyway, when the quad cores are out there will be another reason to wait. I can imagine it now. "Oh you're going to buy that quad tab are you? Why don't you wait until Icecream is out next Jan, then you'll be able to have glasses free 3D." Or some such other benefit for waiting. Nah, I'm done waiting, I'm jumping on the tablet train now.
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Completely agree with you. There is finally a quality tablet out there and thats why I picked it up. I'm sure this is plenty fast enough, and you'll always be waiting for something better.
Just pick a comfortable one and stop evaluating new ones, but treat them as candidate for 2 years later.
That's why having a 2-year contract helps sometimes. It help to set the mentality right.
Sometimes it sounds like, to be married or to be single and availe for better girlfriend/boyfriend ,
which one is better?
Just in this case, the contract is just 2-year. The inappropriate analogy is life-time (or at least hopefully for many's cases)
I think the reason the xoom will not become obsolete as quickly as other tablets do is due to the software, not the hardware. I owned an htc hero and saw the nexus 1 get multitudes of update and my poor hero get only 2. The xoom is much like the nexus 1. Even though the hardware will not be the latest and the greatest, your software will always be up to date. Something you may not see with the LG device (due to 3D) or the Samsung device (due to Samsung being Samsung).
Just something to consider.
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http://omgdroid.com/2011/09/12/t-mobile-leaves-customers-feeling-left-sgsii-variant/
So what do u think about the Hercules not getting the Exynos chip and the other three U.S SGS2 phones from other carriers will have it. I really dont know what to say???
**UPDATE** We will be getting Qualcomm 1.5Ghz dual-core APQ8060 processor will power the 4.52″ Super AMOLED Plus device. NICE
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http://omgdroid.com/2011/09/12/t-mobile-leaves-customers-feeling-left-sgsii-variant/
So what do u think about the Hercules not getting the Exynos chip and the other three U.S SGS2 phones from other carriers will have it. I really dont know what to say???
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I think two words.....nexus prime
IMHO: im dropping my even more plus plan and walking into sprint and purchasing my epic 4g touch for 75 bucks as a new customer sign on bonus and never being throttled again [smiley face].
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deal breaker.
Yep. Lame. Ion.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Its like getting a core duo instead of I7 which sucks
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If you get tegra2 and hdmi mirroring youll be.good to go.still. imo at least. Tegra2 isnt a pansy. It does suck though.
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I think two words.....nexus prime
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That's IT. Nexus Prime I'm coming
If Nexus Prime comes to TMO, isn't it likely to also not have Exynos for the same 42 Mbps reason?
What I'm thinking is while it's unfortunate, it's not the end of the world. I'm more curious to see if it's got that damned Yamaha DAC, or if they wised up and went back to Wolfson.
Since I'm not eager to switch off of TMO just yet, unless the Nexus does come to TMO, I'm likely to get the SGS2/Hercules.
I really have been looking forward to the SGSII exynos proc....I probably wont be getting hercules for a multitude of reasons (mainly money) I would still get it if i could just to work on a kernel for it, but I would really prefer exynos vs anything else. Mainly because the Mali-400MP has significantly higher texture performance (lower geometry, but texture matters more for current loads)
Deal breaker. Well I was waiting for an ICS device anyway..which would be media prime
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I think two words.....nexus prime
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I think I really meant #neveragain. Fool me once (behold 2) shame on me, fool me twice (vibrant) shame on you. There will be no third for me.
Thank you edt for making up for tmo's/samsux's malicious shortcomings
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IMHO: im dropping my even more plus plan and walking into sprint and purchasing my epic 4g touch for 75 bucks as a new customer sign on bonus and never being throttled again [smiley face].
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Sprint coverage and 3G speeds too terrible/slow for me, and they're virtually guaranteed not to improve that at any decent rate.
As terrible as AT&T is, I may have to leave T-Mobile for them and get an iPhone or something that allows me to get a 4GB data plan because I really need 3G coverage, and they put up a new tower right near here earlier this year.
But that's fine. They're getting all the good phones these days it seems, anyways...
for people who cant just walk up and leave tmobil like me. Ill still be getting the hercules because hands down its the best phone hands down by tmobil.
2 questions about the Prime:
1. on all different android/tech sites I keep seeing people say they will wait for the Prime...not that it is a bad idea, but its supposed to be made by samsung, so if tmobile gets it, wont they just do the same thing with the CPU? What Cpu is the Prime rumored to have?
2. It seems every android site i go to people are saying to pass this up for the Prime "in a couple/few weeks" It seems people are sure its coming to Tmobile and sure its coming in just a couple weeks. I keep seeing that as if its a fact....
I will probably wait to see the prime too, im just saying it seems like people are 100% sure of its specs, that it is coming to Tmobile, and that it is only a couple of weeks out...I dont see the manufactures that are releasing the GS2 (3 major except Verizon), releasing a nexus prime/droid/samsung prime within just a couple weeks of releasing the GS2....
any thoughts? Im not hating, i just want to be clued in as to why everyone is so sure its coming to Tmobile, in a few weeks and what CPU it will have???
I would wait and see. Supposedly the next nexus is 1,5 dual core ti omap 4460 and an overclocked powergx vr 540 or whatever its called. Its hard to say what to wait for. I want to see how well the phone handles with higher resolution and if the battery life is there. The latest tech nology is always a waiting game and there is something better around the corner always. Plus, i also want to see what moto brings to the table. I plan on getting a phone by december, and it is my intention, seriously, to have this next device for two years+.
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I would wait and see. Supposedly the next nexus is 1,5 dual core ti omap 4460 and an overclocked powergx vr 540 or whatever its called. Its hard to say what to wait for. I want to see how well the phone handles with higher resolution and if the battery life is there. The latest tech nology is always a waiting game and there is something better around the corner always. Plus, i also want to see what moto brings to the table. I plan on getting a phone by december, and it is my intention, seriously, to have this next device for two years+.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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relating this to my question right above, assuming the nexus prime is a samsung phone, I thought most people wanted the samsung exynos processor in it; which is why many are disappointed by the Hercules not getting it...?
So i don't know anything about the ti processor you are referring to, but how is it supposed to compare to the samsung exynos processor? I guess im am just confused that we all wanted the exynos on the hercules, but are ok that it is not rumored to be in the nexus prime?
It's almost retarded, this choice of them. I don't need to download stuff at 4.5 MB/s at all times, but I need to have a fast and responsive device with a nice energy management at absolutely all times. 21 Mbps on a f'ing phone is already overkill.
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If Nexus Prime comes to TMO, isn't it likely to also not have Exynos for the same 42 Mbps reason?
What I'm thinking is while it's unfortunate, it's not the end of the world. I'm more curious to see if it's got that damned Yamaha DAC, or if they wised up and went back to Wolfson.
Since I'm not eager to switch off of TMO just yet, unless the Nexus does come to TMO, I'm likely to get the SGS2/Hercules.
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It is rumored to run omap 4, far better than the snapdragon in the Hercules.
I personally am waiting for the n3. It wont have the 42 down but ill never see past the 21 so I'm fine.
Hmmm, just thought about it, maybe that's why they changed this soc, to have some type of selling point to "people who don't know better" once the prime comes out?
"Oh, that was has faster internet, I want that one" said the dumbass
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/18/atandt-confirms-htc-one-x-to-land-may-6th/#continued
Not close - won't fit in a normal pocket, 56% larger based on overall measurements, weighs 36% more, non-replaceable battery. Fail as Aria replacement. May be a great phone, but much too large.
Wouldn't the HTC One V be a more suitable replacement?
With the X, you might as well be carrying around a tablet in your pocket.
I wasn't talking about it being a similar phone, ha. Just a phone that I like enough to replace the aria. Probably should have clarified
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On one hand, I think I'm eligible for an upgrade in late May, but as nice as the One X looks I can't justify buying it, given how crippled it is compared to the international version. Half the internal memory (even if all 16GB were free it wouldn't hold my music collection) and a dual-core Snapdragon instead of a quad-core Tegra 3. LTE doesn't matter too much to me, since we don't even have 3G around where I live, and the college I go to has campus-wide WiFi and city-wide WiMAX for the laptops.
The X seems way to big as a phone for me. It definitely has some powa! I've had the aria for almost a year and a half now and I'm so use to having a small phone. I have to wait till next January for next grade. ouch hopefully a quad core sized aria will be made.
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On one hand, I think I'm eligible for an upgrade in late May, but as nice as the One X looks I can't justify buying it, given how crippled it is compared to the international version. Half the internal memory (even if all 16GB were free it wouldn't hold my music collection) and a dual-core Snapdragon instead of a quad-core Tegra 3. LTE doesn't matter too much to me, since we don't even have 3G around where I live, and the college I go to has campus-wide WiFi and city-wide WiMAX for the laptops.
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I'd prefer the dual-core Snapdragon over the quad-core Tegra 3. More cores does not always mean better.
Ive used the Note for some time so I think Ill be able to adjust xD. I think its probably my next upgrade. Either this or the new SGS3.
I had the oppurtunity to play with the one x at my local att store today they let have a sneak peak at it before it goes on display tomorrow and I have to say for being 4.7 screen it was surprisingly comfortable in my hand and fit quite easily into my pocket almost less noticeable then my aria. Its unlike any HTC phone before very light and thin. The screen was stunning and it was fast and smooth. I'm pretty much sold on this phone unless the may 3rd announcement in London about the details of the new sg3 is truly note worthy I'll be picking the one x up. As far as the quad vs the dual debate goes I've following a thread where an xda member has quad and just received the rogers one x which will be the same as the att version and in just about every bench mark he has done the duel core out performed the quad. He also felt that the duel just seems better in real world use.
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FEGuy said:
On one hand, I think I'm eligible for an upgrade in late May, but as nice as the One X looks I can't justify buying it, given how crippled it is compared to the international version. Half the internal memory (even if all 16GB were free it wouldn't hold my music collection) and a dual-core Snapdragon instead of a quad-core Tegra 3. LTE doesn't matter too much to me, since we don't even have 3G around where I live, and the college I go to has campus-wide WiFi and city-wide WiMAX for the laptops.
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The s4 outperforms the tegra 3 in almost every test. Its not the number of cores but the architecture that counts.
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And for $199, It's a steal! I'd be a fool not to get it. I have been due for an upgrade since this month. I am 100% sold on this phone. I try not to think about it though because my nerves get the best of me. It's so long until the sixth!
Perfect time too because the Aria is really starting to show its age. Once I upgrade, the Aria will be a dedicated GPS.
Yea the $199 is def a great price for this beast
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Just pre-ordered this baby this morning! Will arrive at my doorstep on the fourth! The Aria forums are a wonderful community, and I can only hope that the One X forums are even half as friendly!
Saw an article today saying there was a promotion at AT&T to get it for $149. I definitely agree that the dual-core is better for "real world" use over the Tegra 3.
Unfortunately for AT&T and HTC, I am going to be switching to Verizon when the SGS3 comes out, unless it is just a complete bust, which I really don't see happening. Verizon has a far more widespread LTE network and much better customer service. I think it's funny how AT&T advertises that their LTE network is faster, but fails to mention that there are far fewer LTE users on their network than Verizon. If AT&T had the LTE traffic that Verizon does, there is no way they would have faster speeds. *steps down from soap box*
Edit: Throwing this out there...I bet the SGS3 gets root and full CM9 support in less time from its release date than the One X. Any takers?
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Saw an article today saying there was a promotion at AT&T to get it for $149. I definitely agree that the dual-core is better for "real world" use over the Tegra 3.
Unfortunately for AT&T and HTC, I am going to be switching to Verizon when the SGS3 comes out, unless it is just a complete bust, which I really don't see happening. Verizon has a far more widespread LTE network and much better customer service. I think it's funny how AT&T advertises that their LTE network is faster, but fails to mention that there are far fewer LTE users on their network than Verizon. If AT&T had the LTE traffic that Verizon does, there is no way they would have faster speeds. *steps down from soap box*
Edit: Throwing this out there...I bet the SGS3 gets root and full CM9 support in less time from its release date than the One X. Any takers?
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Oh no doubt! SGS has quite a following! And I would totally be on that boat, however I am not about to wait around for six months for the phone.
I have an sgs2 skyrocket but am eyeing that one x very hard. I miss the build quality of hTc. Samsung just doesn't feel as good in the hand.
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I have an sgs2 skyrocket but am eyeing that one x very hard. I miss the build quality of hTc. Samsung just doesn't feel as good in the hand.
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HTC Build quality is def top notch. Sammy phones have thin plastic, but that wouldn't bother me as I will always use a case...so it wouldn't feel too cheep.
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Oh no doubt! SGS has quite a following! And I would totally be on that boat, however I am not about to wait around for six months for the phone.
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You really think it will be 6 months from now until carriers offer it? I was thinking it would become available in June sometime.
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You really think it will be 6 months from now until carriers offer it? I was thinking it would become available in June sometime.
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Well, that is what happened with the SGSII
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Well, that is what happened with the SGSII
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+1 October to November release probably.
Two years ago I bought an Incredible. I could have waited a month for the fascinate, and I'm glad I didn't, but something began to bug me; the Adreno 200 was very underpowered. Fast forward to now and I'm forced to upgrade to keep my unlimited data. The obvious choice is the upcoming Galaxy S3, so I pre-ordered one. I can't help but wonder if I'm repeating my last phone purchase by obtaining hardware with a GPU that simply wont hold up in the future.
The biggest blow of having a weak GPU in my Incredible was the incompatibility with ICS. Google would not and could not support the Nexus One due to the meager Adreno 200 GPU it housed. This upset many QSD based device owners, especially the Nexus One adopters. I know ICS roms are continually improving for QSD based phones but they'll always lag. Meanwhile the fascinate has received great ICS support due to having the same GPU as the Galaxy Nexus. One month could have changed my future proof experience, but inevidbly the fascinate had a bunch of issues I'm glad I didn't have to deal with.
I know hardware becomes obsolete. It happens, I get it. We all want to try and do the best we can though, especially those of us on Verizon with unlimited data; this is our last subsidized upgrade allowing us to retain unlimited data.
Looking at GSM Arena's benchmarks, specifically the Egypt off-screen test, the Adreno 225 lags behind yesteryear's Galaxy S2 with the Mali 400. The international GS3's performance in this test zooms ahead of the Qualcomm variants by double.
Will the US Galaxy S3 withstand the test of time and provide future proof hardware for a reasonable amount of time? Or will it fall short of the two year expected lifespan like the QSD Adreno 200 devices did?
I am uncertain and wish Qualcomm would seriously step its GPU game. Am I alone with this line of thinking?
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Adreno support obseletion will be out-waited by carrier updates.
You may want to consider posting this in one of the US branded GSIII forums. Aside from having a more entrenched audience, mods here may be cracking down soon about the separation between the two mobile configurations.
Now that that's out the way, I've been asking myself the same questions for weeks... which eventually ended in ordering the international edition. I doubt you're going to be help back in basic computing or daily use; the American HTC One X and One S both use the Adreno 225 and still manage to "wow" critics are reviewers relatively unanimously. That being said, if you're one for bleeding-edge technology, games, and general eye candy, the Mali may be the way to go.
Considering the Adreno 225's audience is comprised of 2 flagship phones, you should be good for Jellybean, whenever that makes it to the US variant. Aside from that... the two years will probably be up before the next edition makes its way to your carrier.
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You may want to consider posting this in one of the US branded GSIII forums. Aside from having a more entrenched audience, mods here may be cracking down soon about the separation between the two mobile configurations.
Now that that's out the way, I've been asking myself the same questions for weeks... which eventually ended in ordering the international edition. I doubt you're going to be help back in basic computing or daily use; the American HTC One X and One S both use the Adreno 225 and still manage to "wow" critics are reviewers relatively unanimously. That being said, if you're one for bleeding-edge technology, games, and general eye candy, the Mali may be the way to go.
Considering the Adreno 225's audience is comprised of 2 flagship phones, you should be good for Jellybean, whenever that makes it to the US variant. Aside from that... the two years will probably be up before the next edition makes its way to your carrier.
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Ah, I see the boards you speak of now. I didn't properly refresh my Board list on my XNA app (using a legacy version for performance reasons). You're right I should post in one of those, even if the Verizon specific one isn't up yet. Now I feel somewhat silly!
I realize that handsets with the Adreno 225 have received universal praise, but then again so did the Adreno 200 handsets. Also I am crackflasher so it doesn't matter when the carriers deliver updates as I flash the bleeding edge in recovery or whatnot.
You're right though. I shouldn't be on verizon to begin with if I worry about these things because the best of the best will always be a GSM unlocked phone. Something to think about I suppose.
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Just get the intl version dude... Mali rocks!
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This is the reason I am getting the s3 instead of the htc one x. I had the original HTC desire (with the adreno 200) and I choose it over the galaxy s1, and after a year I regretted it. There were so many cool games out for the s1 that the desire could never dream of playing. So I wanted to upgrade and I had the choice of the international s2 with the mali 400 and the HTC sensation with its adreno 220. I choose the s2 simply because of it's better gpu, and a year on I don't regret it. Looking now at the sensation not being able to play nova 3 with the same amount of effects as the s2, I couldn't be happier. My s2 is still good after a year, compared to my htc desire being crap after a year. It's the same thing now for me, I am choosing the galaxy s3 over the htc one x with the tegra 3 simply because the international s3 has a much more powerful GPU than the GeForce GPU in the Tegra 3 with resides in the HTC One X. The first hardware thing in a device to go out of date is the GPU, so getting a phone with the most powerful gpu, in my option is one of the most important things if you want a future proof device. If I was you I would try to order the International s3
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Two years ago I bought an Incredible. I could have waited a month for the fascinate, and I'm glad I didn't, but something began to bug me; the Adreno 200 was very underpowered. Fast forward to now and I'm forced to upgrade to keep my unlimited data. The obvious choice is the upcoming Galaxy S3, so I pre-ordered one. I can't help but wonder if I'm repeating my last phone purchase by obtaining hardware with a GPU that simply wont hold up in the future.
The biggest blow of having a weak GPU in my Incredible was the incompatibility with ICS. Google would not and could not support the Nexus One due to the meager Adreno 200 GPU it housed. This upset many QSD based device owners, especially the Nexus One adopters. I know ICS roms are continually improving for QSD based phones but they'll always lag. Meanwhile the fascinate has received great ICS support due to having the same GPU as the Galaxy Nexus. One month could have changed my future proof experience, but inevidbly the fascinate had a bunch of issues I'm glad I didn't have to deal with.
I know hardware becomes obsolete. It happens, I get it. We all want to try and do the best we can though, especially those of us on Verizon with unlimited data; this is our last subsidized upgrade allowing us to retain unlimited data.
Looking at GSM Arena's benchmarks, specifically the Egypt off-screen test, the Adreno 225 lags behind yesteryear's Galaxy S2 with the Mali 400. The international GS3's performance in this test zooms ahead of the Qualcomm variants by double.
Will the US Galaxy S3 withstand the test of time and provide future proof hardware for a reasonable amount of time? Or will it fall short of the two year expected lifespan like the QSD Adreno 200 devices did?
I am uncertain and wish Qualcomm would seriously step its GPU game. Am I alone with this line of thinking?
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Do you know that the 225 is probably 15x - 20x faster than the 200? I have no problem playing any of the games like blood & glory, frontline commando or deadspace when on the Sensation XL running the Adreno 205. Thats several times slower than the 225.
Note: thread title is not exactly true but to some extent.
I'm angered by Samsung release S3 LTE i9305 which made my current i9300 seem old and less advanced. I don't want to argue if 2GB RAM or LTE is necessary but it's obvious that i9305 is better version. Even the upcoming Note2 comes with 2GB RAM and better software (new gallery,etc) than S3. It's now a fact that S3 i9300 no longer the best phone of samsung after less than 4months...
One of the reason why I'm so angry is due to their sale tactics. I think samsung tactics and marketing are dirty. They seem to be very well planned and executed. Here's what they do in these few months in Singapore...
30 May: S3 16GB (White, Blue) launched at SGD$998.
28 July: This is when I got my S3
25 Aug: S3 32GB (White, Blue) launched at SGD$998. 16GB version reduced to SGD$898.
Why reduce the price of 16GB version?
1 Sept: S3 (Red) launched.
13 Sept: S3 LTE 16GB (White, Grey) announced with JB preloaded, coming end of Sept at SGD$998. JB coming to i9300 in Oct.
It's the same day as iPhone 5 keynote here in Singapore, samsung must have planned and decided to announce on this day. The price is same as i9300 first launch?! and we only getting JB in Oct, way after S3 LTE released?!
20 Sept: Market price check on S3 16GB, SGD$790. Resale value is pathetic
22 Sept: S3 (Brown) launch.
I felt that...
Samsung tricked us buying their best smartphone and then trolled us by releasing better variant/version.
They just to want get more sales without caring and benefiting us the early i9300 adopters.
What do you think?
My phone still works so I don't care.
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You better be trolling, please tell me you are. Do you really think that any phone will stay number 1 of the production line for even a year these days? 6 months today and a phone is considered "old" by some people's standards.
There's no denying the i9300 is still an awesome phone, though!
There is always a new phone, why bother. If I wanted an iPhone Ive bouth an iPhone. Read as a new release twise a year...
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who said a 5.6 inch screen is better to hold thn 4.8. and moreovr 2gb ram realyy doesnt affect much. so stop being stupid and love what you have. :beer:
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You do realize they run a business, right?
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sense of entitlement? Greed?
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so....?????
all of you whining people are targeting the extra 1 gb of RAM nothing else.
My phone is perfect i dont need more... Whats the point upgrading ur phone every 5 months
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I hate threads like this. Are you saying Samsung should sit on this new phone so you feel better? Technology moves along just below the speed of light and it can make your stomach queezy! If you can't handle it, don't play the game! Your phone still works exactley the same as the day you bought it!
Someone doesn't know how fast technology moves, if you want a phone, that will be the best the company has made for at least 1 year, buy an iPhone, things in the Android world move fast, and always will.
There has to be reason they decided to have 2GB RAM in the 4g enabled S3, I would expect it will be using over 1GB RAM out of the box, then you install things and it will go up fast.
4g and 2GB of RAM is all that makes it better than the I9300, yes its more technologically advanced because of the 4g, however when the I9300 was released it was still up in the air as to whether 4g (at least in UK) would be rolled out by EE, one complaint could have pushed it back so Samsung's this was Samsung's only option, I for one would hate them making a phone with a 4g chip in if EE's rollout was slowed down, it pushes the price up for no reason.
You wanted the latest and greatest as soon as it came out it's not Samsung's fault it's yours... get over it.
OP is a spoiled self entitled idiot. Technology advances quickly. Wake up. End of story.
What's stopping you from selling your sgs3 and buying the updated one? If you're locked into a 2 year contract then that's your own fault. When you signed that contract you will have already known you wouldn't upgrade for 2 years. Did you expect time to stand still for the next 24 months too?
I'm planning to sell my sgs3 and replace it with the note 2 unless something better is coming out soon. I'm not angry. I'm not even slightly annoyed. Get over it.
Of course they care about sales! They are a business!
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Yes, I hope Samsung never release a better phone so mine will always be the best. I heard the SGS4 will be dual core and have 512mb ram..
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I'm not stupid, I knew better phones were gonna come along while I own my i9300 but nothing's gonna be that much better in the space of 4 months.
So I'm not gonna be one of those who's obsessed with making sure people know I have the best phone all the time and buying something new every few months simply because it's better.
And I honestly think the S3 is so good that the S4 really is only gonna be a tiny step up and I'll be keeping this until 4G comes out on Three Mobile UK.
Whoosh13 said:
Of course they care about sales! They are a business!
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You mean they don't just exist to make us happy?
Guys, have some sympathy, OP's phone must have auto-bricked and now completely hopeless.
Where do they come from is their some production line churning out these idiots that appear daily .
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JJEgan said:
Where do they come from is their some production line churning out these idiots that appear daily .
jje
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hopefully just a faulty batch
In 6 months, the OP'd be talking about the 2GB SIII like he's talking about this one now. Technology doesn't stop because you can't or refuse to keep up.