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I have encountered a problem (or not!) that the battery seems to drain real fast (8-10% per hour) when the phone is in standby mode with WIFI on and the only app running in the background is Ebuddy. I don't know if this is a problem or not because on my old Blackberry Bold, even if you let a chatting app such as Jivetalk running in the background with WIFI or 3G on, the batterry doesn't drain that much, in fact it uses just a bit more battery than just standby. My phone is not rooted, and if I continuously use the phone for chatting, surfing and listening for the music, the battery seems to be find though, I get around 6 hours until the battery is dead. Any help would be awesome, thank you very much for your help
Try switching off your GPS. I did and now my battery is sweet. I only switch on the GPS when I need it, i.e. maps, weather, you get the message...
What widgets do you have on your home screen? I've had problems before with some of the active widgets preventing the phone from sleeping.. I generally get 2-3 % per hour when in standby.
Now at 88% after 6 hours..
I have wifi on 3g on and gps on and bluetooth on.. So they're all sleeping just fine.
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J48BLE said:
Try switching off your GPS. I did and now my battery is sweet. I only switch on the GPS when I need it, i.e. maps, weather, you get the message...
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I already have GPS switched of from the very beginning, thanks a lot
im_iceman said:
What widgets do you have on your home screen? I've had problems before with some of the active widgets preventing the phone from sleeping.. I generally get 2-3 % per hour when in standby.
Now at 88% after 6 hours..
I have wifi on 3g on and gps on and bluetooth on.. So they're all sleeping just fine.
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Actually i dont have many widgets running in the background, I only use 3 home screens, the widgets I have are Beautiful Widgets, Calendar, Battery Life and I have Juice Defender running in the background full time. The problem is, standby mode without either WIFI and 3G is OK but with any of them, the battery starts draining real quick
you should be able to set wifi to sleep when phone display is inactive. 3g will always use more juice than 2g but how much more seems to depend on your location and 3g availability/strength. I get about 1 day use with 3g turned on and 2 and a half days with only 2g enabled.
It would be really nice if the phone could switch back to 2g when sleeping but its not possible to do because you cant control the 2g/3g directly from apps. The best that apps can do is display the standard android settings page.
Ahah... Juice defender... I've had problems with that preventing my phone from sleeping.. Suggest you do what I did and de install it.. My phone lasts a lot longer without it..
Also, if that still doesn't work try removing beautiful widgets, I've not heard of problems with that one but some of the weather widgets also prevent the phone from sleeping.
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Thank you very much guys, I will try to uninstall Juice Defender to see how it goes. I did mention 1 thing in case you forget, I had Ebuddy running in the background, facebook and twitter update every 1 hour or so, but even that.the battery still seems to drain too fast, even when nothing using connect to the internet
At Phantasm4489: Actually at my house there is only 2G EDGE coverage
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im_iceman said:
Ahah... Juice defender... I've had problems with that preventing my phone from sleeping.. Suggest you do what I did and de install it.. My phone lasts a lot longer without it..
Also, if that still doesn't work try removing beautiful widgets, I've not heard of problems with that one but some of the weather widgets also prevent the phone from sleeping.
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Would advance task killer suck the juice too? I have it on. Watchdog too.
Been playin around a lil bit with wifi on for the past 45mins or so,batt's down 10%. Is this normal?
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GTBlackIce said:
Would advance task killer suck the juice too? I have it on. Watchdog too.
Been playin around a lil bit with wifi on for the past 45mins or so,batt's down 10%. Is this normal?
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This seems normal to me as I get around the same
@ im_iceman: Uninstalled Juice Defender and the problem is still there, maybe I will have to test uninstall the weather widget and give it a go again, will report soon tmrw as it is too late now
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Hi - Couple of things.. .. 1. Did you disable JD before you uninstalled it - read somewhere that this is the best way.. and 2. Have you restarted the phone to clear JD from Memory?
Which version of the firmare are you on? The older ones 014 and 016 weren't as good at sleeping..
Task Killers also tend to cause problems (@GT Blackice) They will stop things that need to be in memory and so the phone will restart them.. I've found it better without.. Phone runs smoother and battery lasts longer. (Although one or two others believe that they help; I think that this is because they're killing dodgy apps which aren't sleeping properly when not active.)..
Yes i disabled JD before uninstall it and did a clean reset even with taking out the battery. I'm on firmware 023, I think its the latest one for my phone. It's so bad if the battery cannot last any longer with WIFI on, anyways thank you a lot though
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Disable APN(3g and 2g, there is a widget for this) while you're not using it and battery last significantly longer. If you need internet for E-mail push or some other apps(timescape) then use 2g(as was reccomended above) and be happy if it lasts for 2 days. I've also discovered that using wifi instead of APN uses less power.
That's really odd. I'm on 023 too and mine is fine.. The only other thing I can think of.. Possibly... I've stopped using timescape...
Other things about my phone.
Uk based.
Vodafone contract
NOT branded.
Not rooted.
Using ADW.
Using k-9 for email.
Handscent for sms.
No task killer, no start up manager.
No internet active widgets on my home screen.
Phones been on now for 16 hours.. Now at 60% battery left. Just also noticed that Gps has been off today.
Been at home for most of the day so not been using 3g/ gprs much.
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im_iceman said:
That's really odd. I'm on 023 too and mine is fine.. The only other thing I can think of.. Possibly... I've stopped using timescape...
Other things about my phone.
Uk based.
Vodafone contract
NOT branded.
Not rooted.
Using ADW.
Using k-9 for email.
Handscent for sms.
No task killer, no start up manager.
No internet active widgets on my home screen.
Phones been on now for 16 hours.. Now at 60% battery left. Just also noticed that Gps has been off today.
Been at home for most of the day so not been using 3g/ gprs much.
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How can u disable Moxier Mail if you dont use startuqap manager. Cuz this app was the real drainer. And how do you disable Timescape? Did you use any WIFI at all during the last 16 hours? I even uninstalled the weather widget and the prob stayed there, nothing changed. Arghhhhh...
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I thought moxier was a problem too, but in the end turns out not to be.. As long as you've not configured it, it just sits in the background not doing anything. Haven't disabled timescape.. Just removed the widget and set the update frequency to never, then stopped using it.
Wifi has been on and active quite a lot. Used xda and internet a fair bit on it yesterday.
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Did you try the wifi sleep method as mentioned earlier by someone? Perhaps need a new launcher such as adw launcher? I mean when I use my wifi I lose bout 12% or so per hr, annoys me, tried everything I could think of!
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If you have a rogue app that is causing the phone to not sleep properly would it not show up under the battery status in settings?
If you see Cell standby, Phone Idle and Display at the top of your list in the battery usage and that accounts for around 90% or more then your phone is probably working as expected. If the display percentage is too high you can probably reduce the display brightness to save battery other than that the only thing you can do to affect the battery life is to turn reduce refresh times for apps which update automatically, turn off APN or switch back to 2g.
Thanks everyone for your advices. Anyways, the prob doesnt seem to fixed though, maybe its because of my phone.
@im_iceman: I did not configure Moxier mail but its still running in the background and drain a lot of my battery, the I tried Startup Auditor and it fixed that prob well, i dunno why
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Hi.. How do you know that moxier was draining the battery?
I also stopped using start up managers too cos they were also draining battery..
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there is always a chance your battery is damaged. Get a battery graphing application and see how it drains over time. One of my friends had a phone with a bad battery - one of the cells was clearly damaged and unable to retain charge properly and it was easily visible when watching the battery drain over time
Or is it a fundamental limitation? I have tried the g talk and meebo apps.
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Or is it a fundamental limitation? I have tried the g talk and meebo apps.
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I use IM+ cause it supports so many protocols and haven't noticed a "drastic" battery drain. Mind you I only let it run when I'm home. Otherwise I use a task killer to swat it out. It's not very good at refreshing anyway lol.
Try using them on demand instead of 24/7. But haven't seen one which has completely minimal battery drain as its pros lol.
just as comparison, I've dropped 25% in 2.5 hours mostly because of meebo.
Does the phone sleep when your use im+?
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Yes it does. Well sorta. It wakes up if you get an IM but for extended periods of nothing it sleeps so much it turns its wi-fi off (phone does that not the IM) and IM+ loses the connection. When it wakes up and wi-fi re-connects IM+ fails to refresh so I usually just use a task killer to restart it. Usually happens if I leave it overnight with the thing on.
25%? Jeez LMAO! Yesterday I had my phone with IM+, Wi-Fi on, texting, and I was browsing market and sites for a bit. It had 45% when I connected it to the Wi-Fi at 6pm and died at 0% at 12. Mind you I was doing heavy usage on it sorta. Lots of texting and browsing. So 6 hours for 45% with medium/heavy usage...
As for the IM+ itself, afaik it doesn't drain my battery a lot at all. If I just leave it sitting logged in on through wi-fi it will last for a good while. Biggest drain is web-surfing and using market for installing/uninstalling imo...or generally the huge screen being on haha
IM
i wonder why the android IM apk isn't able to run on the 2.1 device.
I use ebuddy, it works fine as far as not wearing down the battery, and it rarely loses connection. Just make sure the extend battery life option is checked. It should be on by default. That puts it into a state where it only checks once every 15 minutes or so if it's in the background and hasn't been used recently
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I use ebuddy, it works fine as far as not wearing down the battery, and it rarely loses connection. Just make sure the extend battery life option is checked. It should be on by default. That puts it into a state where it only checks once every 15 minutes or so if it's in the background and hasn't been used recently
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I liked eBuddy too! If ONLY it had skype support haha
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Yes it does. Well sorta. It wakes up if you get an IM but for extended periods of nothing it sleeps so much it turns its wi-fi off (phone does that not the IM) and IM+ loses the connection. When it wakes up and wi-fi re-connects IM+ fails to refresh so I usually just use a task killer to restart it. Usually happens if I leave it overnight with the thing on.
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Try to send the support request through About -> Support request. They will fix this.
I simply switched off location services and my battery life has gone up by ~50%.
I was really surprised that the location services took this much energy. I usually have Wifi off except when at home (if that's important) I haven't really missed the lack of location services - I just remember to re-enable it before running "Places" or similar
I'll try it, thanks.
I'm overseas on holiday and have had no data for 2 days (no wifi no mobile data). The battery hardly drained (%30). I was playing games and texting so I am now convinced that it is data and voice calls that drain battery.
gf_gollum said:
I simply switched off location services and my battery life has gone up by ~50%.
I was really surprised that the location services took this much energy. I usually have Wifi off except when at home (if that's important) I haven't really missed the lack of location services - I just remember to re-enable it before running "Places" or similar
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How you switched off location services ?
I want to know how you turn off that as well thanks!
I'm guessing menu>settings>location and security> switch off wifi location and GPS location
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robotnoize said:
I'm guessing menu>settings>location and security> switch off wifi location and GPS location
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Yes - that's all I've done.
Yes, all options is turn off.
My battery:
1d 1h 56min on battery
and now battery level is 38%.
Is the result same with you?
I'm getting ~10% drop over 10 hours when the phone is idle overnight. Obviously battery usage increases with calls etc. to 26% over 10 hours with some light calls and 3G based app updates. (no Wifi)
Increase battery life 10000% by turning phone off and removing battery
Number picked at random, YMMV.
DirkGently1 said:
Increase battery life 10000% by turning phone off and removing battery
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I've tried this. Phone doesn't work
I turn on "Use only 2G networks" (in Settings --> Wireless & networks --> Mobile networks) and the battery life is incredibly increased ^^.
In addition, I also turn off the "Data enabled", whenever I need to access the 3G networks, I just turn them on again.
OferR said:
I've tried this. Phone doesn't work
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I'll give you £20 for it
Seriously though, rather than trying to eke out every last milliamp of power from their batteries, i wish people would just buy a spare one and use that instead.
DirkGently1 said:
Increase battery life 10000% by turning phone off and removing battery
Number picked at random, YMMV.
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I've tried that but my phone is bricked now. Doesn't boot anymore. xD
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Battery life on this phone is amazing under use, but only average on standby, which is the only negative thing I could say about G2. I routinely lose 2%-3% battery over night, it was the same on JB and now on KK.
I've been checking the wake locks and it is our old friend Google Services and its NlpCollectorWakeLock that keeps the phone awake about 10 minutes a day, since Google likes checking our location 1000 times a day. Turning location off doesn't help at all.
What are your experiences and how have you been dealing with this on G2 specifically? Don't just say install Wakelock Terminator, if you used it also share your experiences with it. Does Greenifying make a difference and what did you hibernate? Did you have any issues afterwards with apps that use location?
And most importantly, did it have any effect on battery life in standby?
Can't remember whether Knock On/Off feature has anything to do with the NCWL but just disable it and see what happens.
Also, down 2-3% overnite seems normal to me.
votinh said:
Also, down 2-3% overnite seems normal to me.
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Normal but we had 0% even on ICS 4.2.2, and on 4.1.2 my previous phones did managed to spend 0% overnight
laserburn said:
Turning location off doesn't help at all.
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Yeah, constantly running Location Services bugs me off too.
Maybe you could find solution in that http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/nlpwakelock-nlpcollectorwakelock-t2551846 topic, I didn't read it
Location services disable location reporting and history ... That helps decrease it (only do this if you don't use Google now location based features)... Also you can set location to device only if you want ... And greenify the Google maps app ...
... did you actually just complain about a 3% battery drain in 6-7 hours of idling or whatever you define 'night' as?...
Getting back to the topic, one of the bigger things you could do to reduce NlpCollectorWakeLock is disable Google Now. I personally don't find it very useful in my country so I never keep it on. Thus, I get that 3% battery drain overnight with WiFi on.
Turn off wifi assist in location services just set it to device only and it will be gone
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iamtha1 said:
Turn off wifi assist in location services just set it to device only and it will be gone
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Just turn off "Google Now", you'll be amazed how long your battery will last.....
Cheers
Or install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
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I think I discovered a fix to some hard to track wakelocks by the android services.
What I did:
-settings > share & connect > menu button > dlna feature > menu button > settings > uncheck share options.
Let me know! First post!
Lately my battery just drops every 5 minutes. The phone is new. So I decided to try something. I turned my wife off last night and my battery only dropped one percent. So it seems wifi is using resources. Is there anything I can do to solve this? I am using a stock untouched phone.
P. S how come the Sub-Forum section is so cluttered and not alphabetical order? Finding the phones correct forum is a real pita.
I suggest to download Wifi traffic monitor app like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vn.wada.trafmeter or anything similar, to see what app is using wifi the most. You also can save battery by set wifi to never scan and never wake when screen is off. This will prevent any apps from using wifi while your screen is turnoff.
buhohitr said:
I suggest to download Wifi traffic monitor app like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vn.wada.trafmeter or anything similar, to see what app is using wifi the most. You also can save battery by set wifi to never scan and never wake when screen is off. This will prevent any apps from using wifi while your screen is turnoff.
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OK so my top app is chrome/Google. That doesn't make sense.... Because the phone drains fast when screen is off and wifi is on. I don't have unlimited data so I always keep that one off.
SoCalArm said:
OK so my top app is chrome/Google. That doesn't make sense.... Because the phone drains fast when screen is off and wifi is on. I don't have unlimited data so I always keep that one off.
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You need to set wifi "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to NEVER and "Always allow scanning" unchecked.
buhohitr said:
You need to set wifi "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to NEVER and "Always allow scanning" unchecked.
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Those are set. Have been before making this thread. :/ still getting poor battery life,. Maybe I should replace battery, reinstall OS