i9508 is the China Mobile model of Galaxy S4, which supports GSM and TD-SCDMA.
A group of people made a custom ROM to enable WCDMA on i9508.
Seems i9508's got both WCDMA and TD-SCDMA support, and WCDMA is disabled by firmware.
However, people also report that they see "i9505" on those i9508 they buy. So, maybe i9508 is just a software-modified i9505 on which WCDMA and LTE is disabled.
So, anyone knows if i9505 also has both WCDMA and TD-SCDMA on it?
P.S.
Refs from a website called tphone8... sorry i can't add outside links.
Ref of i9505 printed on i9508: thread-21245-2-1.html
Ref of a project intended to find and enable TD-SCDMA on i9505: thread-14619-1-1.html
Yes, I9508 = I9505 + custom firmware
As far as I know, Snapdragon 600 supports WCDMA/TD-SCDMA/LTE, and someone said it can be hacked via *#1111#
Sylphia said:
Yes, I9508 = I9505 + custom firmware
As far as I know, Snapdragon 600 supports WCDMA/TD-SCDMA/LTE, and someone said it can be hacked via *#1111#
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What I am looking forward to is unlocking TD-SCDMA on the coming Galaxy S4 with Stock Android.
And it's also DUOS!
coolcfan said:
What I am looking forward to is unlocking TD-SCDMA on the coming Galaxy S4 with Stock Android.
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100% sure this will be possible?
My next phone needs to be TD-SCDMA enabled, have all gapps (so not a chinese version) and hopefully stock Android.
read gsmarena.com http://bit.ly/YYbUHR
adrian3 said:
read gsmarena.com http://bit.ly/YYbUHR
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I have, and I can't find an answer to my question on the page, it just says;
There’s another Chinese model, the I9508, which is a single-SIM Galaxy S4 with a Snapdragon 600 chipset. This one is China specific and differs from the I9505 in its TD-SCDMA support (the 3G tech in China).
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Will it be possible to enable TD-SCDMA on any i9505, and specifically on the the stock android S4?
jude999 said:
100% sure this will be possible?
My next phone needs to be TD-SCDMA enabled, have all gapps (so not a chinese version) and hopefully stock Android.
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Some people tried to raise money to buy 2 i9505s for the development. However, it doesn't seem promising. Only a few people donated, so the total amount will hardly reach the target. On the other hand, ROM makers already built ROMs for i9508 which enables the phone to use WCDMA instead of TD-SCDMA.
So there is no proof that an i9505 could support TD with some software level hack, even though the two models share the same hardware (or almost the same, i don't know).
So, for now, the only choice for TD seems to be i9508. I believe the CM-based ROMs for i9508 are coming soon (maybe they already built one).
They did.
Guys, I have a GT-I9508 and flashed into custom rom via Touchwiz UI and everything works very well. Once I used to have some wifi and bluetooth issues but I solved it with latest official rom.
Here is what I've done:
1) I flashed the GT-I9508's software with the latest official rom. (This updates the baseband of the device which means wifi and bluetooth connection issues are gone)
2) I flashed Omega v42.1 Android 5.0.1 Based on firmware XXUHOF2 ( which you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253528 )
Now, I have GT-I9505's rom runs on GT-I9508 without any restrictions even Google Products.
Regards.
coolcfan said:
Some people tried to raise money to buy 2 i9505s for the development. However, it doesn't seem promising. Only a few people donated, so the total amount will hardly reach the target. On the other hand, ROM makers already built ROMs for i9508 which enables the phone to use WCDMA instead of TD-SCDMA.
So there is no proof that an i9505 could support TD with some software level hack, even though the two models share the same hardware (or almost the same, i don't know).
So, for now, the only choice for TD seems to be i9508. I believe the CM-based ROMs for i9508 are coming soon (maybe they already built one).
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Hello guys,
I live in China and I'd like to buy a Note 3, therefore, there's only following versions available here: N9002/6/8/9
I used to have a Note 2, Chinese version too, which was impossible to flash through Samsung's standard tool and once I bruteforced the flash with other tools, I detroyed the phone (couldnt receive signal anymore and be recovered) because Samsung's phones in China have a different modems and bootloaders specific to China).
Currently, not so many custom firwmwares are available for the Note 3 but in the future, I'd like to use them. Knowing Chinese models might be different, do you know if I'll have the same issues as with my Note 2, meaning:
- not being able to flash other region firmwares (Chinese version doesnt have Play store and you cannot install anything like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube or other famous foreign apps and that's ****ing annoying)
- not being able to flash custom roms for popular versions like N900 or N9005
Thanks
N9006 - Note3 - Chinese One
I've got my Note 3 - SM-N9006, couple weeks ago and try to root with Root de la Vega to get rid of the problems that you thought.
But failed now.
Trying to figure it out to bring the phone back.
So, think 2 more time to buy a Chinese Note 3.
Regards,
@op dont tinker too much.. Its possible to root without much hassle。。n9002 is the china unicom branded one/ n9006 is unbranded SD800 but 16gb/ n9008 is china mobile (keep in mind they have their own 3g band) / n9009 is china telecom(cdma)
@navalarcitect .. You forgot to to switch that "reactivation lock" to off in settings... Do that and try again...It would be succesful..
I've have had s2 s3 and s4 all made in china for the chinese markets rooted and using international firmwares enjoying all the google goodies china strips off.
For note 3 i went for exynos because it offers 32gb against the SD800 which is 16gb in China and HK.. Cheers
Buy the HK version at any of the phone markets of your choice
I think the short answer is DON'T BUY THE CHINA version, unless you have unlimited time to play/tinker with it in the hope that you might be able to internationalize it... Note tha 99% of the people making roms and modding the Chinese version are Chinese, who won't care about English/play store etc... so even if you do see ROMs most of them will be made for Chinese. Also, even if you do get it working, no more android updates for you...
The even shorter answer is, buy a HK version from any of the phone markets... In Shanghai there are many and they all have HK versions (often same price or cheaper than the China version as smuggled in without 5% import tax and 17% sales tax). You can tell pretty easy what model the phone is, and they're used to laowei (and many ABCs, etc.) wanting the international version.
What would be GREAT would be if the dual sim version was available in International. In the past it was only available as the China version. I really need a dual sim as I travel so much, but am just too scared/nervous and lacking in time and knowledge to buy the China version and try to root/internationalize....Am keeping an eye out for this, but not holding my breath as Samsung never did a dual sim N2 and you have to assume carriers hate them...
How can i go settings?
hatnim said:
@op dont tinker too much.. Its possible to root without much hassle。。n9002 is the china unicom branded one/ n9006 is unbranded SD800 but 16gb/ n9008 is china mobile (keep in mind they have their own 3g band) / n9009 is china telecom(cdma)
@navalarcitect .. You forgot to to switch that "reactivation lock" to off in settings... Do that and try again...It would be succesful..
I've have had s2 s3 and s4 all made in china for the chinese markets rooted and using international firmwares enjoying all the google goodies china strips off.
For note 3 i went for exynos because it offers 32gb against the SD800 which is 16gb in China and HK.. Cheers
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How can i go to settings? I can't open the phone, it's stacked in bootloader loop as shown in photo?
小哥啊，中国机和国外机，机型不同，肯定没法通刷的
navalarcitect said:
how can i go to settings? I can't open the phone, it's stacked in bootloader loop as shown in photo?
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小哥啊，中国机和国外机，机型不同，肯定没法通刷的
要刷机，买sm-n900吧，欧版或亚太的
hatnim said:
@op dont tinker too much.. Its possible to root without much hassle。。n9002 is the china unicom branded one/ n9006 is unbranded SD800 but 16gb/ n9008 is china mobile (keep in mind they have their own 3g band) / n9009 is china telecom(cdma)
@navalarcitect .. You forgot to to switch that "reactivation lock" to off in settings... Do that and try again...It would be succesful..
I've have had s2 s3 and s4 all made in china for the chinese markets rooted and using international firmwares enjoying all the google goodies china strips off.
For note 3 i went for exynos because it offers 32gb against the SD800 which is 16gb in China and HK.. Cheers
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@hatnim, II'd like to buy my Note 3 with a subcription to reduce its price but 'd like to stay away from China Unicom as they have crap netwrok coverage, I moved to them 1 year ago to finally have 3G on my iphone but I really regret it. From what I understood the 3G Chinese network can also be used in other regions of the world can't it?
How did you manage to internationalize it since there is not yet a Chinese version of the SM-N9005? If you have a SM-N9002 or SM-N9008, they should not be compatible with international roms (at least that was not the case with Note 2, in my case, I had to purchase the N7100 Chinese version to be able to use it with internatiol roms).
Additional question: tt seems you have the Exynos version but it's still not out in China if I'm not wrong. Where did you get it?
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How can i go to settings? I can't open the phone, it's stacked in bootloader loop as shown in photo?
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Okay.. im on mobile now so would just give you the website（bbs.gfan.com）..but if you are not familiar with chinese i would get you the link to download the official n9006 rom later.. and you can root it with chainfires cf auto root ..
Therrm said:
@hatnim, II'd like to buy my Note 3 with a subcription to reduce its price but 'd like to stay away from China Unicom as they have crap netwrok coverage, I moved to them 1 year ago to finally have 3G on my iphone but I really regret it. From what I understood the 3G Chinese network can also be used in other regions of the world can't it?
How did you manage to internationalize it since there is not yet a Chinese version of the SM-N9005? If you have a SM-N9002 or SM-N9008, they should not be compatible with international roms (at least that was not the case with Note 2, in my case, I had to purchase the N7100 Chinese version to be able to use it with internatiol roms).
Additional question: tt seems you have the Exynos version but it's still not out in China if I'm not wrong. Where did you get it?
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Well subscription with china mobile is good but you cant use 3g or higher when outside china ..you would be stuck on 2g.. they have their own homemade 3g spectrum or something.. if that isnt a bother you can go for that.
The chinese version n9006（sd800） is different from the normal n9005.. to get playstore and other google stuffs stripped off , you would have to install the hk version or taiwan version（roms that start with zs）..hk/tw is not restricted like mainland..
Yeah i did buy exynos because the sd800（n9006） they were offering here was 16gb and had no lte compared to the n9005.. so i got the exynos 32gb for 600rmb cheaper and its from hk or other place..
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mmx566 said:
小哥啊，中国机和国外机，机型不同，肯定没法通刷的
要刷机，买sm-n900吧，欧版或亚太的
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Yes..very true..but use english next time ...xda rule
你说的是对的。下次用英语吧。。就是一个规则。。呵呵
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hatnim said:
Well subscription with china mobile is good but you cant use 3g or higher when outside china ..you would be stuck on 2g.. they have their own homemade 3g spectrum or something.. if that isnt a bother you can go for that.
The chinese version n9006（sd800） is different from the normal n9005.. to get playstore and other google stuffs stripped off , you would have to install the hk version or taiwan version（roms that start with zs）..hk/tw is not restricted like mainland..
Yeah i did buy exynos because the sd800（n9006） they were offering here was 16gb and had no lte compared to the n9005.. so i got the exynos 32gb for 600rmb cheaper and its from hk or other place..
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+1 for your support Hatnim! I think I'll go for the international version. But one last question since you seem to know a lot about chinese band. Do you think if the International version will receive China Mobile's 3G and HSPA+ signal?
Btw, for how much did you pruchase your Exynos version?
I got it for aprox. 3550RMB online (i guess you know of taobao, .and here is the catch, if you have a chinese friend with CC you can have it on installment plan,like mine is roughly 310 x 12months)..
And sadly no to your other question.. China Mobiles 3G (TD-SCDMA) is home made and i havent heard of any other carrier using it... Your only bet would be Unicom which uses W-CDMA ...I know Unicom really sucks..
Note 3 is no problem!
Hi,
I have a N9002 for about 1 Week now and it´s working good!
It took me only about 3h to root, install Google apps including PlayStore, and the Nexus Keyboard to get more languages.
All you need you can find at XDA!
I took the N9002 because I need dual Sim AND need to run it all around Asia and Europe.
For the dual sim version you will find nearly no custom roms, but that´s not neccessary for root, Google Apps and Keyboard!
Only the China Unicom Version works in Europe and most Asian countries!!!!!
I don´t know why you had so much problems with the Note 2?
I had the Note 2 (also dual Sim version from China Unicom) for around one year and it worked perfect. Also rooted and injected Google Apps and Nexus keyboard.
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keeping an eye out for this, but not holding my breath as Samsung never did a dual sim N2 and you have to assume carriers hate them...
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I could be wrong, but isn't the n7102 a dual sim note 2?
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HNevenEG said:
Hi,
I have a N9002 for about 1 Week now and it´s working good!
It took me only about 3h to root, install Google apps including PlayStore, and the Nexus Keyboard to get more languages.
All you need you can find at XDA!
I took the N9002 because I need dual Sim AND need to run it all around Asia and Europe.
For the dual sim version you will find nearly no custom roms, but that´s not neccessary for root, Google Apps and Keyboard!
Only the China Unicom Version works in Europe and most Asian countries!!!!!
I don´t know why you had so much problems with the Note 2?
I had the Note 2 (also dual Sim version from China Unicom) for around one year and it worked perfect. Also rooted and injected Google Apps and Nexus keyboard.
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For custom n9002 stock based rom, try searching "SVA N9002" in google. Made by a Russian developer, charges 12 usd.
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Comparable models
hatnim said:
@op dont tinker too much.. Its possible to root without much hassle。。n9002 is the china unicom branded one/ n9006 is unbranded SD800 but 16gb/ n9008 is china mobile (keep in mind they have their own 3g band) / n9009 is china telecom(cdma)
@navalarcitect .. You forgot to to switch that "reactivation lock" to off in settings... Do that and try again...It would be succesful..
I've have had s2 s3 and s4 all made in china for the chinese markets rooted and using international firmwares enjoying all the google goodies china strips off.
For note 3 i went for exynos because it offers 32gb against the SD800 which is 16gb in China and HK.. Cheers
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I purchase the Chineese version, SM-N-9006. Does your post mean I can flash any firmware for the SD800? Thanks
Therrm said:
Hello guys,
I live in China and I'd like to buy a Note 3, therefore, there's only following versions available here: N9002/6/8/9
I used to have a Note 2, Chinese version too, which was impossible to flash through Samsung's standard tool and once I bruteforced the flash with other tools, I detroyed the phone (couldnt receive signal anymore and be recovered) because Samsung's phones in China have a different modems and bootloaders specific to China).
Currently, not so many custom firwmwares are available for the Note 3 but in the future, I'd like to use them. Knowing Chinese models might be different, do you know if I'll have the same issues as with my Note 2, meaning:
- not being able to flash other region firmwares (Chinese version doesnt have Play store and you cannot install anything like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube or other famous foreign apps and that's ****ing annoying)
- not being able to flash custom roms for popular versions like N900 or N9005
Thanks
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Close to impossible with a Chinese phone, the Government mandates a locked bootloader where a major part of their surveillance mechanism is located, go to Hong Kong where the phones are open.
lorinkundert said:
Close to impossible with a Chinese phone, the Government mandates a locked bootloader where a major part of their surveillance mechanism is located, go to Hong Kong where the phones are open.
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You can still root the device, will trigger knox, but if you're overseas it won't matter much. Once rooted, you can install Google apps, facebook and even youtube. I have done it on my 9002. Works fine. Gmail, Contacts, Calender and G+ to name a few.....oh yeah and Play Store, which works great, can select stuff on my pc and have it sent and installed on my Note 3 with NO PROBS!!
You can flash anything, you just have to be careful because there are 2 types of N3 out. One has 16gb and the other 32gb memory. This results in different size partitions for the different system directories. That's why so many people wind up with bricked phones.....technically it's because the PIT is different. (Partition Information Table).
As for the surveillance mech, I am skeptical that the Chinese Gov would mandate a locked bootloader, do you have any evidence?
dabgoo said:
You can still root the device, will trigger knox, but if you're overseas it won't matter much. Once rooted, you can install Google apps, facebook and even youtube. I have done it on my 9002. Works fine. Gmail, Contacts, Calender and G+ to name a few.....oh yeah and Play Store, which works great, can select stuff on my pc and have it sent and installed on my Note 3 with NO PROBS!!
You can flash anything, you just have to be careful because there are 2 types of N3 out. One has 16gb and the other 32gb memory. This results in different size partitions for the different system directories. That's why so many people wind up with bricked phones.....technically it's because the PIT is different. (Partition Information Table).
As for the surveillance mech, I am skeptical that the Chinese Gov would mandate a locked bootloader, do you have any evidence?
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Your phone KNOX is still 0x0... warranty not lost... take it to samsung , they will Jtag it and it will work.
Also if you have the original rom, .PIT, pda, phone,csc... you can flash through odin with repartition ticked... however your prevent reactivation means only Samsung...
BTW, you can buy 9005 and 900 in china through HK parallel export and vendors after some bargianing, would offer a 1 year store warranty... I have 1..
Wxanders50 said:
I purchase the Chineese version, SM-N-9006. Does your post mean I can flash any firmware for the SD800? Thanks
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I havent been following the SD800 development that much since i got the Exynos one... and in the beginning i heard the 16gb sd800 was different from the 32gb sd 800... dont know about now... you can check on bbs(.)gfan(.)com about the progress on that...
How Change firmware N9002 to american version
hello friends I have the problem to buy a SM-N9002 in hong kong rooted, but as I change the firmware to an American version? as the root account samsung applications like "find my phone" are in Chinese.
That the android guru can help me?: Eek:
ruizjl said:
hello friends I have the problem to buy a SM-N9002 in hong kong rooted, but as I change the firmware to an American version? as the root account samsung applications like "find my phone" are in Chinese.
That the android guru can help me?: Eek:
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You can't update firmware to American version. What you can do is to "westernize" the Chinese firmware.
Follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592252
Hello guys,
I have a soft-bricked N9002 and I am trying to unbrick it.
I tried to upgrade to the latest official firmware, CHU-N9002ZNUENG4-20140805155712, Android 4.4.2, through Odin but I ticked "Nand Erase All", which I think was the mistake. The phone is now bootlooping to the China Unicom splashscreen, with the mentions "RECOVERY BOOTING...Set Warranty Bit: recovery" and then vibrating twice before bootlooping again.
I am not accustomed to Samsung phones, but from what I have read on the forum, I would need to flash a PIT file to re-partition the phone.
So my question is, does anyone have such PIT file, or where can I get it?
Thanks in advance!
1. Is it okay if i just dont root the device sm-n900k and just flash the sm-n9005 firmware from sammobile? I just want to try and change firmware because i can't update the version, still stucked at 4.4.2 having some problems with signal, korean apps and the shutter sound of the camera.
Thank you
Personally, I would not try it as it may brick the phone. The 900k uses a Samsung Exynos processor and the n9005 uses a Qualcomm.
http://www.imei.info/phonedatabase/14281-samsung-n900k-galaxy-note-3/
Are there any other site except sammobile that offers firmware? I just want to update my phone to lollipop version but i am also scared to unlock the bootloader because i cant find a guide and btw im not sure if the bootloader is locked or maybe i just can't find a compatible custom recovery for my phone
Traditionally Korean model has had slightly different hardware making them incompatible with international variants (TV antenna for example on the S1/S2). However, at least from forum posts here N9005 custom ROM should work fine, as long as you keep your old modem.
Although, there should be an official 5.0.1 ROM around with a GOF2 ending, considering the existence of a Lollipop bootloader for it. Have you tried just plugging it into Kies and check for update?
(If you want to give it a shot, here is the baseband + bootloader: https://mega.nz/#F!0MNyVboS!XpjPYizNyY7LPZdsepyTFw . Flash this then a 5.0 custom ROM and you should be good to go)
@audit13 N900K is Snapdragon. Exynos doesn't have LTE, but all Korean model has LTE (different bands for different networks though)
@thebulletfromhell, I am not familiar with the n900k and I based my information on the link in my post above yours. I looked at several site and they specifically mention the Exynos. This one also mentions LTE: http://welectronics.com/gsm/Samsung/SAMSUNG-SM-N900K-GALAXY-NOTE-3-4G-LTE-BLACK.HTML
I know you can't believe everything you read on the internet. Thank you for the information.
I saw that too, but it was the only site that mentioned it, so I looked further. Info on Korean models are pretty rare in English, as the hardware for the most part is incompatible with Network Bands in the English speaking part of the world, making grey import iffy, and thus no reason to write about them.
I need to buy 2 more notes.. Mine was a K50-T5 china model. Overall I am happy with that now its on marshmallow and would replace with same
Looking on aliexpress theres K50-T5 and K50-T3 which is slightly cheaper but seems to have the same specs ??
Is the T3s inferior ?? Runs the same ROMs ??
Any ideas ??
I think, hardware is same. Only difference is in stock ROM, T3s has less LTE frequencies.
On ali, you can read: "Surprise!!!After we install Custom Firmware,after flash custmoized rom, K50 T5 and K50 T3s Have same network frequency". Somewhere else I read, that you can use same ROMs for both versions.
I'm going to order the T3s
if the hardware the same.. why is there such a price difference ??
Can anyone confirm if the stock ROMs for the T5 work the same on the T3 ?? I need to buy a few so the saving is helpful, but it must run the new 6.0 stock rom nicely.
Phat Phreddy said:
if the hardware the same.. why is there such a price difference ??
Can anyone confirm if the stock ROMs for the T5 work the same on the T3 ?? I need to buy a few so the saving is helpful, but it must run the new 6.0 stock rom nicely.
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I have the same doubt. Do you have any news?
I just bought 2 more T5 versions..
I need to set them up and leave them with employees.. I cant be worrying about if MM wont flash onto them for the 20 buck price difference.
To clarify : The hardware is exactly same apparenly, in aliexpress the sellers says they flashed a rom that allow all FDD LTE frequencies (they have screenshot of available frequencies).
But officially : T5 = Worldwide version with FDD LTE
T3S = China TD-LTE only.
Its the same sroty with Redmi Note 2 but officially they decided to include also FDD bands to allow users of China Mobile to use 4G when they travel overseas.
The only thing I still need to find out is that if flashing a T5 rom on T3S works (I'll try VIBE 3.1 tomorrow) or if the guys in aliexpress really use a special rom to make it work or if T3S rom actually has all FDD frequencies activated.
About price difference : Officially the T3S is only registred to be used on TD-LTE so they do not have to pay for FDD licenses. That's why all brands like Nubia XIaomi ... are cheaper in chinese version than worldwide.
Hello,
I m new user of t3S .
I registered to this forum, after reading this post.
I've wondered about this compatibility.
If it can help you, I've flashed (4 days ago) a custom rom (with vibeui/android 6.0 found on needrom) designed for the T50 on the "k3 note t3s" (Edit : without any modification) with success. I can't say for the 4G frequencies because i don't use them, but I didn't encounter any problem .
I have the t3s version from Ali Express too. I wonder what changes the seller made to the ROM.
The ROM is listed in the settings as VIBEUI_V3.0_1604_7.209.1_ST_K50-T3s
It's not listed on the XDA page of downloads.
Also, this ROM doesn't provide OTA updates.
But before flashing it, I think it would be a good idea to save the ROM as flashed by the seller. Just in case it doesn't work with this particular hardware. Also, I don't want to lose the 4G.
I'm not sure how to do that though.
Thanx Very Much