Database Users

N4 or Note II

I have a chance to exchange my N4 for Note II + $120 C on top of my phone. I don't know what to do. I would really like to have super amoled 5.5" screenn, SD card and stronger battery. The things I don't like is physical buttons, and not a Google phone (updates and freedom of Nexus phones). I have no idea what to do. Should I go for it. What you think? Please give me your opinion.

Do it. Use the $120 towards the N4 8gb.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.

Before I got my Nexus, I was going to get the Note ll. Then I saw it up close, too big to fit in my pockets and a pain to hold. I ended getting the nexus 4, you can't beat it. I ended buying it unlocked because I don't want to sign another contract with ROBBERS. Great specs, great price, timely updates and stock Android.
It falls on the user though. Some people enjoy a huge phablet like a note ll. Depends what you are going to use it for.
Sent from my awesome Neo Armstrong Cyclone Jet Armstrong Nexus⁴ via Tapatalk

I never put my phone in the pants poked anyway. My hands can hold it normally, not to too big. Plastic look is bothering me I have to say that. Compare to N4 look Note II is like a toy. From other side Samsung device like Note II have no others to compare. What else you can take to have super amoled 5.5" screen and similar spec. Nothing really.

I've had both . The note is nice but i think its to big to be a phone for me . The removable battery is nice and I got over a SD slot a long time ago. So for me its N4 all the way .
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

N4, nice solid phone, you can't go wrong go with it
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

exactly...

I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.

EvoXOhio said:
I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I came from the Note n7000 as well. Used my phone in the same manner, as a mini PC. However, I wouldnt go back to the Note. It all depends on your needs for the phone. If you want a better camera and a media device due to the large screen. Then ya. However, if you prefer excellent battery life on a phone with a global community of great developers then stay with the n4.
PS remember Nexus 4 will get updates much faster than the note 2 and you wont get asked/mocked/ridiculed CONSTANTLY about having such a massive phone and explaining to others why you have it.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

ak700 said:
Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i gotta say though the note 2 is lacking in the "original development" area. there's lots of ports and touchwiz based roms but for an aosp, there's much to be desired.
cyanogenmod was onboard until relatively recently then it stopped. it's up to a few to really keep it up and so far, it's all been nightlies and no stable releases.
i just gave up my note 2 and had to come back to a nexus 4 because of the lack of support. gs3 or gs4 probably has proper support.

Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.

testulous said:
Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is nexus reception that poor? I need to decide between those two phones. One big drawback for me is mali400 in note 2. I think that adreno 320 is more futureproof. Could you tell me about camera quality on nexus vs note 2? My brother has note 2 but unfortunately i dont know anyone with nexus 4 to compare them.
Sent from my LG-P920 using xda app-developers app

Camera in note2 is far superior in focus IQ and speed. Low light images are better on the note 2. I also used to have one.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Depends on your needs! For instance, a friend of mine is a designer, she loves NOTE2.

Thank you everyone. I will stay with my N4. I just can not stand physical buttons, cheap plastic and huge price differences. N4 is better device except sd card and smaller screen. The only thing I would like is 5.5" but everything else is step back for me. Not even mentioning the community for N4. So much stuff to choose between. With Note 2 after having N4 I will feel like having old device and stick with what I have. No way, not me...

Gs3 users will buy Gs 5 or Xperia Z 2 or HTC M8 or LG G3 ??? General discussion

SAMSUNG GALAXY S 5 FEATURES AND SPECIFICATIONS CLICK HERE
SONY XPERIA Z2 FEATURES AND SPECIFICATIONS CLICK HERE
HTC M8 FEATURES AND SPECIFICATIONS CLICK HERE
LG G3 FEATURES AND SPECIFICATIONS CLICK HERE
SO SHARE YOUR OPINIONS AND YOUR THOUGHTS WILL YOU CHANGE YOUR PHONE OR NOT

No
Ill go probably for Note3 or ill move away from samsung they eraned that by taking ages to update S3 and then when the updated it was crappy because we were no longuer the prodigal son therefor were rushed out.
And they forgot that this isnt about the phones its about the people that spend tons of money on their products to in the end get real desapointments.
So sammy hope im wrong but S5 was the missing nail on the coffenet.
Enviado do meu GT-I9300 através de Tapatalk

S5 is ugly, doesnt have anything really new and interesting. LG G2 from last year is better and cheaper. Samsung did very bad job this time.

I'm too for note 3 over s5. My phone serves me as a tool for work not as a toy so s3 is enough for me.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk

For me, it will be another brand. Samsung is too busy.
- Plastic again and again... I prefer metal like iPhone
- No real hardware improvment (2Go - RAM ... WTF)
- A Printer Sensor (like iPhone)
- Not other new...

No. Love my S3, and waited for the S5, but its back is horrendous, it's bigger overall with big bezels, TouchWiz on it looks horrendous and I expected something totally different. Let's see if HTC has something better at 25 March...
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium

Samsung have dropped the ball, I couldn't care less about fingerprint scanners and all that bloat. I want more ram i9305 which launched in 2012 had 2GB, and a larger battery, Samsung total caught on the hoof by the Xperia Z2 which total trumps the SGS3SS, I suppose in 6 months they'll be an S5Pro with better specs but i'll either jump ship to Sony or await Nexus.

GS5 sux its back cover looks like medical plaster, am either gonna stick to my S3 with temasek rom (CM 11 based) or go to Note 3 which has much much better look or wait as long as my S3 is surviving

No way!!! Mo more Samsung!

I'm thinking keep it reasonably cheap and jump to nexus or get the Sony flagship
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

No.

I'm surprised it doesn't have 3Gb. Not because it's needed (though it may with all the usual crap samsung puts in) but because it's not a new thing anymore (note3). I quite like that the back is replaceable. It's SO UGLY. I may have a change of heart about this holding it in hands but that's my first impression. It'd probably be better off with some black cheap back cover from ebay.
I really don't like raised cameras at all too. It's a great way to scratch the lens and it probably makes the screen wobble if it's being used on a table.
Dem extra features. I believe it was wozniak who said features =! from innovation. All those extra functions are nice but they're only adding stuff 99% of the people will only use for party tricks. Not really sure what i expected but then again it's their job to come up with impressive stuff not mine. This one just seems lackluster.
The only reason i'd get it would be if i got it offered to me and i had no say in the matter (company replacing phones for that one, etc). It's a great phone for sure but not impressive considering what else's out there. Also, samsung needs to learn how to treat their customers better and if for nothing else, i'd like them to learn this lesson.
To be honest the only thing that gets me mildly excited about the S5 is the fact they FINALLY decided to put away with that exynos crap in favor of a decent processor, even if it's "just" a quadcore. Since they're not using it anymore on the flagship device, i'm hoping they stop caring enough about older phones that they release proper sources.
If i have any say on my next phone it'll most likely be a nexus - a cheap always updated powerhouse. I may also look the apple and the microsoft way. I wouldn't buy them with the current offer but I'm not adamant for anything if they do grow greener grass on the other side.
TL;DR: S5? No, ty.

Sony z2
Sent from my M470BSE using Tapatalk

Dude this SGS5 looks sweet though, but I do like that Note 3 a lot.
Tough choices.... tough choices.
My wife keeps trying to convince me to buy her the Note 3, shes got that POS iPhone 5 that freezes up on her every minute.
Tisk tisk apple.

S5 have same memory as s3 lte with some extra gimmick
For now z2 seams good deal and waiting for htc one.
I've the same disappointment when they introduced s3 with 1gb.
now they dropped the s3 from 4.4.2 upgrade list because of lack of memory. They will do the same to s5 in the feature.
This time Samsung will learn a lesson . Note 3 is big for me.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Note3 or xperia Z2 will be my next phone. Sgs5 is fail for me
Sent from my GT-I9300

Samsung failed a big time now. Well ill keep my s3 and keep updating my software instead of hardware.
Lähetetty minun GT-I9300 laitteesta Tapatalkilla

Xperia Z2 or HTC M8 for me, S5 is slight upgrade over S4 which was slight upgrade over S3. Was hoping for something awesome.

No Radio?
No radio ??I will stick with S3 i think.....

No! S3 kitkat no - Samsung anymore ... simple...

Sold m8, shall I get the s5 or wait?

Hi all, I sold the HTC One m8 and looking to get the S5, like the look of the camera, overall device looks and touchwiz looks improved from the s3 I use to have and get praises? from some users as a stock offering. I really enjoyed the s3 but rom community was not as good as its was closed source from samsung..was the s5 rom's / developer scene like? compared to xperia z2/3?
What do fellow s5 owners think, get one or wait for z3 / nexus 6 / note 4?
Im tempted by the z3 (when they come up for £430!), as it will be my first sony, I have loved and something really draws me to the the z ranges, started from z1, but really want to try the S5 before jumping deep in on xperia z3.
Appreciate your view.
Thanks.

The S5 is awesome....You won't regret getting it...But, if you have the money for the Note 4 and size isn't an issue, then get the Note 4 as it is coming soon

Wait for next gen lol. Not far away
BTW I had an Xperia z and the software and updates were so trash. Late updates that don't address bugs that slow down your phone. 4.4.2 came May this year and was unusable because it made me feel like I was on froyo with touchwiz and it gave me like 15 hours of standby. The standby was so trash. The ui fluidity was non existent. Seriously, pulling down the notification bar was delayed and had a laggy animation from a 2013 quad core flagship device running kitkat
ROM dev for the z was alright because some of the later gen devices features gets ported over so you don't feel like the phone is a pile of rubbish anymore.
Just had to let you know of my experience with Sony that was actually very very recent.

mhh, thanks, the more I see the s5 im tempted.
Love to get a note 4 but im one of those who can watch and wait for a decent price..........till I get a burning itch!! Plus cant justify paying 500+ on a phone, ill let someone else do that and buy it reduced after 2 - 3 months
May just sway towards a decent price Z3, new tech and few months down come back to Samsung Note 4 or..................s6!!
Let see.
What is the rom / dev like on the s5? I know on the s3 xynos? processor it was barley active but closed sourced on binary's and stuff.?

I'm in a similar situation and this is what I'll do: I'll wait for the presentation of Nexus 6 and then choose between that device and the S5.
They should have a similar price tag, but quite different hardware. We'll see...

Hellscythe said:
Wait for next gen lol. Not far away
BTW I had an Xperia z and the software and updates were so trash. Late updates that don't address bugs that slow down your phone. 4.4.2 came May this year and was unusable because it made me feel like I was on froyo with touchwiz and it gave me like 15 hours of standby. The standby was so trash. The ui fluidity was non existent. Seriously, pulling down the notification bar was delayed and had a laggy animation from a 2013 quad core flagship device running kitkat
ROM dev for the z was alright because some of the later gen devices features gets ported over so you don't feel like the phone is a pile of rubbish anymore.
Just had to let you know of my experience with Sony that was actually very very recent.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will straight up say that this is total bulls***... I had an Xperia Z2 and it was the smoothest phone i have used other than the M8. Wait for the xperia Z3 or wait for the Note 4 whichever suits your needs the most. The other phones are irrelevant as those 2 are definitely the best right now

crzykiller said:
I will straight up say that this is total bulls***... I had an Xperia Z2 and it was the smoothest phone i have used other than the M8. Wait for the xperia Z3 or wait for the Note 4 whichever suits your needs the most. The other phones are irrelevant as those 2 are definitely the best right now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wasn't talking about the Z2...anyway, just wait for the Z3 to come out and watch the quality of software updates hit rock bottom for the Z2. If you're lucky, the notification dragdown will actually be smooth rofl

nrd\ said:
Hi all, I sold the HTC One m8 and looking to get the S5, like the look of the camera, overall device looks and touchwiz looks improved from the s3 I use to have and get praises? from some users as a stock offering. I really enjoyed the s3 but rom community was not as good as its was closed source from samsung..was the s5 rom's / developer scene like? compared to xperia z2/3?
What do fellow s5 owners think, get one or wait for z3 / nexus 6 / note 4?
Im tempted by the z3 (when they come up for £430!), as it will be my first sony, I have loved and something really draws me to the the z ranges, started from z1, but really want to try the S5 before jumping deep in on xperia z3.
Appreciate your view.
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You must go for Note 4.
ice [N]ation

I've just sold an iPhone 6 64GB and bought another S5 :good::laugh:
Paid £385 with some discount for a brand new UK sim free one from a retail store on ebay.
The iPhone 6 is shocking worst phone Apple ever released, the coating on the screen scratches very very easily, not included all the hardware faults people are complaining about aswell, plus it's a slippy in the hand as the S3 was if not worst due to the thinness.
Luckily i managed to make all my money back on the iPhone 6 as people are still desperate to get hold of one.
The Note 4 will also drop considerable in price in the next few months, as it did with the Note 3.

I too switched from the iPhone 6 plus. I preordered it and really didn't like it at all. It was too tall and narrow. I just got the GS5 and am loving it so far. I was torn as well but when I considered the good battery life, removable battery, expandable memory, ultra power mode, IR sensor with Peel remote app, and the awesome screen...I decided to go ahead and get the GS5.

I am liking the s5 except one thing, why oh why does Samsung think I only need 16gb of storage?
The note 3 came with 32 and I am sure the note 4 will too. This s5 should be standard at 32.
Why?
Because the ext SD isn't that great if you can't write to it (Thanks google)
after installing my apps I have about 5 GB left. Even with them installed on ext sd.
So yeah just want more internal space.

ixon2001 said:
I've just sold an iPhone 6 64GB and bought another S5 :good::laugh:
Paid £385 with some discount for a brand new UK sim free one from a retail store on ebay.
The iPhone 6 is shocking worst phone Apple ever released, the coating on the screen scratches very very easily, not included all the hardware faults people are complaining about aswell, plus it's a slippy in the hand as the S3 was if not worst due to the thinness.
Luckily i managed to make all my money back on the iPhone 6 as people are still desperate to get hold of one.
The Note 4 will also drop considerable in price in the next few months, as it did with the Note 3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you please talk more about the iPhone 6 fraud? It's quite interesting.

Parradox said:
I too switched from the iPhone 6 plus. I preordered it and really didn't like it at all. It was too tall and narrow. I just got the GS5 and am loving it so far. I was torn as well but when I considered the good battery life, removable battery, expandable memory, ultra power mode, IR sensor with Peel remote app, and the awesome screen...I decided to go ahead and get the GS5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not worth the money is it, the GS5 or Note 3,4 ect are much better smartphones with an OS that works not the horrid mess that iOS8 is atm.
Honestly there only so much people will put up with Apple before switching, alot of people have started to question both their software & hardware considering the price they charge.
It be interesting next year when the S6 launches how many once diehard Apple fans switch over to Android for a better smartphone experience.

I currently have a Z2 and love it, but want to use SideSync with my tab s, so thinking of switching to an S5. They are similar spec. I would like to get the Note 4 but unfortunately it isn't waterproof/resistant...

The Nexus 6 will be introduced probably tomorrow and sold in November, i would wait for that one. I plan on getting one asap and i`ll sell my S5. The S5 is a good phone don`t get me wrong but i long back to pure Nexus android

gee2012 said:
The Nexus 6 will be introduced probably tomorrow and sold in November, i would wait for that one. I plan on getting one asap and i`ll sell my S5. The S5 is a good phone don`t get me wrong but i long back to pure Nexus android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It may be good, but come on, S5 has plenty more features and most of them are actually very useful I'd rather sacrifice some performance, but have those great features that stock android doesn't (and probably won't) have!

koragg97 said:
It may be good, but come on, S5 has plenty more features and most of them are actually very useful I'd rather sacrifice some performance, but have those great features that stock android doesn't (and probably won't) have!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are similar apps for most of the Samsung features available in Play mate, and i`am a bit bored with the S5 i must say truthfully

gee2012 said:
There are similar apps for most of the Samsung features available in Play mate, and i`am a bit bored with the S5 i must say truthfully
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alternative to SideSync? But better than AirDroid?

gee2012 said:
There are similar apps for most of the Samsung features available in Play mate, and i`am a bit bored with the S5 i must say truthfully
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess it's all a matter of taste. I just love TouchWiz, but some people hate it Anyway, let me know how Android L is performing on the Nexus 6 when you get it
Sent from my " Black Beauty " using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Yes, Nexus 6 announced and few forums are very busy discussing prices vs size points, "hands up" im F5'ing daily to see if the UK price is out!! ARGHH come on google.
Looking at the S5 second hand prices have dropped around £20+ due to the Note 4 release / Z3.
Some good comments (thanks!) towards and s5 and I think ill be going S5 if I can see a tempting price and local to me.
Currently picked up a Moto g 2014, 5", very nice handset, running close to stock, but lack of internal storage is a bummer and im sure the 3G HSPA speeds are not great but for the price cant really moan, ergonomically very nice to hold and 5" screen, performance is mid, nexus 4 is slightly faster but cant moan for the price.
Does touchwiz really slow down the phone? Cant say I remember from the S3 days but I thought it was graphically nice to use and look at?

Moved to S6 from which device & why

Current device: Galaxy S5
Why: Because S6 will be / is better in every aspect.
Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Free mobile app

Gonna stick to Note 4
I like GalaxyS6Edge but i am going to stick to Note4 because SPen. By the way, SdCard and Removable battery are also my main reasons.

Sticking to S4 until I find a quality phone with MicroSD
Sent from my last Samsung device....

Micro SD card get the m9.
For 5years I had several htc devices back to touch HD and now m8. The point was I hated Samsung for their plastic devices and TouchWiz. Imo sense is way better.
But now with the s6 edge samsung has done everything I expected. Metal Frame and unbloated TouchWiz. So I will switch to the s6 cuz for me it has the more advantages then the m9. I will miss sense and the speakers, but I will get a fantastic camera and design.
Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk

The only smartphones I have owned are the SG1 and 4. Contract is up at the end of the month so the 6E it is. Never had any issues with both phones.

from a Note 4
loving the premium build and specs on the s6 edge

Going to be coming from the G3.
Mainly for the green model and because the M9 is underwhelming. Also to have a new piece of tech to play with

Moving to the S6 Edge 128 from my HTC One XL (Evita) because it's just about time lol. Also my device now suffers from excessive random reboots and severe battery drain issues.
Small chance I might go with the HTC One M9, but I'm strongly leaning S6 Edge at this point.

My smartphone evolution: S3, Xperia ZL (only one week), S4, Oppo Find7a and last but not least Xperia Z3.
The S3 remains in my possession in case of loosing/destroying my current smartphone... it's a reserve. The Z3 is a really nice device but the camera isn't a point and shoot one.
After skipping the S5 (didn't like the backside) the S6 is a Samsung phone that attracted my attention again in spite of the glass back (Z3), the non removable battery (Z3) and the missing sd-slot (I lost many, many data because of a broken sd card!!!).
Perhaps Otterbox designs a water/dust/shockproof case for the S6...that would be great...waterproofing is a nice to have feature but it's nonessential.

Probably going to switch from a Note 4 because after having the iPhone 6 I always told myself my perfect phone would be Android running on the iPhone 6 hardware with the iPhone 6 camera... the GS6 looks to achieve that

Once I see what LG has in stock, I might move over from my G3. I have unlimited data on vzw so I'm not too concerned about storage and as long as the battery does well in the reviews, I might consider it since I do like the new look.

From note 3 because I want the fastest and best phone on the market aka s6. Also want to have a smaller phone (Higher PPI yeaaah)

Current device: note 3
Reasoning: really hoping to, but not switching mainly because of the lack of SD slot and removable battery. I love their choice of new materials, but not worth sacrificing the usefulness of those features (swap batteries often and like multiple SD cards for back up/romming/music/etc.). Additionally, I've always opted for snapdragon variants (although I am not opposed to exynos, but that real world performance remains to be seen in this case), and the extreme protrusion of the camera is a real turn off.

Coming from M8 after a really good two year journey with HTC... I have very high expectations for the S6.

Glitch4583 said:
Once I see what LG has in stock, I might move over from my G3. I have unlimited data on vzw so I'm not too concerned about storage and as long as the battery does well in the reviews, I might consider it since I do like the new look.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you dont think its too expensive?
$699 for the 32gb regular s6 / $799 for the 32gb edge
or mind the locked bootloader?
im on the fence too. wanting a green S6 EDGE but ifk vzw is getting the green one

altimax98 said:
Probably going to switch from a Note 4 because after having the iPhone 6 I always told myself my perfect phone would be Android running on the iPhone 6 hardware with the iPhone 6 camera... the GS6 looks to achieve that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apple has never made a camera this good

GreeleyXda said:
you dont think its too expensive?
$699 for the 32gb regular s6 / $799 for the 32gb edge
or mind the locked bootloader?
im on the fence too. wanting a green S6 EDGE but ifk vzw is getting the green one
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The price is definitely a concern to me since if I was going to get one, I would go with the 128GB model to get over the fact that I don't have an SD card anymore. Thank god I have a partner that allows me to buy stupidly pricey stuff every so often. As far as the locked boot loader, I would have to see how people are able to build out custom ROMS that run on Sense. Especially with the Edge model, I'm wondering if running on Sense might allow for the extra features on the phone to run better or at all. I always run Nova as my launcher so Touchwiz's interface would be running in the back instead of in my face all the time. On top of that, this would hardly be the first phone I've used that had a locked bootloader that the dev community has managed to get unlocked. We have some very talented people on this site that manage to do some very cool stuff. I remember in the early days of the M8, people were saying that we were doomed to get the device fully unlocked. Now, it's very easy to get that thing running fully unlocked. Plus, if we're super lucky, Samsung might release a developer edition with at least 64GB if not 128.

das boot said:
Apple has never made a camera this good
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you ever used the iPhone 6 camera? It is bar none the best camera available in almost every light. I love my Note 4 but it gets thrashed by the wifes iPhone in everything but outdoor sunlight. The focus time is the real difference.

altimax98 said:
Have you ever used the iPhone 6 camera? It is bar none the best camera available in almost every light. I love my Note 4 but it gets thrashed by the wifes iPhone in everything but outdoor sunlight. The focus time is the real difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We aren't talking about the Note 4 camera. We are talking about the camera on the S6. This is going to be the best camera in a smart phone upon release. The iPhone will be a distant second. By the way, you might be the first person I've heard that has anything negative to say about the pics rom the Note 4. I personally don't have one, but everyone I know that has one thinks it blows the iPhone away.

Coming from a One plus one. Just sold it on swappa and also sold my moto 360 just in case the device is a little more expensive. all in all , have $800 to spend. Lookiing at the 64GB Edge version. hopefully its just 750 and I use the other 50 to get a case or something,
Why? well honestly, I wanted the iphone 6 design with android and samsung has accomplished this (not something to be proud of). Also because of the fingerprint scanner, the speed of the device, the smaller screen compared to my 1+1, and samsung pay. oh and the attention grabbing aspect of the 6 edge

Note 5 vs LG V10?

Soooo, I got a Trial Note 5 to play with, as I have had a Note 3, 4 in the past and other phones like the iPhone. But I also have a LG V10 I am trying too right now. For the life of me, I wanted to like the V10, but I am having a HARD time adjusting to the buttons on the back. It also has a bit of LAG to it where the Note 5 never shows it any more. My Note 4 definitely had lag.
Anyone else use a V10 to try and go back to the Note? I like the replaceable battery and SD Card 200gb.

Note 5 murder the v10 in terms of performance, screen quality and battery, V10 has higher quality audio, more video control micro SD and removable battery, the Note5 also got S Pen- it got many awesome features.
Take the V10 if- you need a phone NOW, it has to be with microSD and removable battery, and don't care about mid heavy 3D game performance, also V10 has locked bootloader and unlikely will be unlocked if G4 is any indication.
Take the Note 5 if- you need a phone NOW, you need the best performance, best screen, camera is slightly better than V10, though V10 has slight advantage in low light shots, you need more function from the phone aka S Pen features., if you care about instant root and unlocked bootloader too.
Wait after Feb 21, as Galaxy S7 and G5 will be announced, the GS7 will have it's micro SD back.

Derpling said:
Note 5 murder the v10 in terms of performance, screen quality and battery, V10 has higher quality audio, more video control micro SD and removable battery, the Note5 also got S Pen- it got many awesome features.
Take the V10 if- you need a phone NOW, it has to be with microSD and removable battery, and don't care about mid heavy 3D game performance, also V10 has locked bootloader and unlikely will be unlocked if G4 is any indication.
Take the Note 5 if- you need a phone NOW, you need the best performance, best screen, camera is slightly better than V10, though V10 has slight advantage in low light shots, you need more function from the phone aka S Pen features., if you care about instant root and unlocked bootloader too.
Wait after Feb 21, as Galaxy S7 and G5 will be announced, the GS7 will have it's micro SD back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just packed up the V10 to sell again on Swappa. I can't stand it any more. I'll see if I can wait till Feb. 21st. But may just get a Note 5. Any benefits between the Note 5 and S6 Edge plus?

Software wise v10 wins but has no root as far as I I know
Sent from my ls-991 using XDA Premium HD app

I had a 32gb Note 5 and jumped to the v10 when they had the battery/200gb sd promo! The v10 was fun for a change due to ive had the note 2,3,4 and 5 as my last phones but i love the feel of the note and had yo jump back lol...Im running the MM 6.0 beta on my tmo Note 5 and it flys with zero lag!!!! Cant wait for the official update!!! But hands down the Note 5 is better but the v10 was pretty damn good for what it was!

nizmoz15 said:
I just packed up the V10 to sell again on Swappa. I can't stand it any more. I'll see if I can wait till Feb. 21st. But may just get a Note 5. Any benefits between the Note 5 and S6 Edge plus?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well if u fixed on the Note then get it now, it won't likely go down in price, or go down slightly in price as Galaxy and Note series are aimed at different crowd.
Note main feature is the S-Pen, although i don't use it as much but when i do, it's totally helping me to achieve certain tasks, i also like how the Note looks.
S6 Edge plus is just curved from the edges, Android 6 should get it even better, more function would be possible by the edge strips.
All other they have the same SOC, edge might look for appealing but it's up to u.

pbedard said:
Software wise v10 wins but has no root as far as I I know
Sent from my ls-991 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't agree. I think the LG software needs work.
Goody68 said:
I had a 32gb Note 5 and jumped to the v10 when they had the battery/200gb sd promo! The v10 was fun for a change due to ive had the note 2,3,4 and 5 as my last phones but i love the feel of the note and had yo jump back lol...Im running the MM 6.0 beta on my tmo Note 5 and it flys with zero lag!!!! Cant wait for the official update!!! But hands down the Note 5 is better but the v10 was pretty damn good for what it was!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, same here!
Derpling said:
Well if u fixed on the Note then get it now, it won't likely go down in price, or go down slightly in price as Galaxy and Note series are aimed at different crowd.
Note main feature is the S-Pen, although i don't use it as much but when i do, it's totally helping me to achieve certain tasks, i also like how the Note looks.
S6 Edge plus is just curved from the edges, Android 6 should get it even better, more function would be possible by the edge strips.
All other they have the same SOC, edge might look for appealing but it's up to u.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks!

nizmoz15 said:
I just packed up the V10 to sell again on Swappa. I can't stand it any more. I'll see if I can wait till Feb. 21st. But may just get a Note 5. Any benefits between the Note 5 and S6 Edge plus?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Free mobile app

taeza said:
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
y u quoting this? i answered before.

I had the Note5 when it released, and went to the V10 when it released. I am going back to the Note5.
The V10 has been a great phone. I can't begin to explain how nice it is to almost never have to plug in to charge - I always swap batteries instead. The camera on the V10 has a bit more fine-tuning, and much better low light potential, but in automatic point/shoot the Note5 seems to win in most camera comparisons. I also very rarely take pictures... even though the V10's camera was a huge selling point for me, I have no real use for it. Note5 will also outperform the V10, obviously. The audio quality on the Note5 certainly isn't poor, and I really don't notice the V10 being better with my $1,500 AKG K812 headphones, or $1,000 Shure SE846 IEMs - they're low impedance, so either phone drives them fine. The nice thing about the Note5 is having the built-in equalizer, whereas the V10 has none. The biggest selling point for the Note5 though, is the screen. OLED cannot be beat by an LCD. I have an LG OLED TV, and tried to buy a Samsung LCD for use elsewhere, but returned it - the quality is garbage compared to OLED. You're looking at the screen the whole time you're really using a phone - why not have the best screen possible? The lack of SD for Samsung kind of sucks because I have the 200GB card from the V10, but even with that, I have not used over 40GB counting internal storage as well, so the 64GB Note5 will be fine for me. I used to really think the S-pen was cool, but barely used that either. But it's still nice to have. I kind of wish the Note5 used on-screen buttons, but having that extra screen real-estate is nice.
Either phone is a great choice. As you can see I'm back and forth on certain points, haha. If the V10 had an OLED screen and better processor, I'd certainly stay with it. Kind of funny how LG dominates the OLED TV market, yet Samsung dominates the OLED phone display market.

I went from the Note 4 to a v10 mainly for the removable battery & SD. I had it for almost a month before trading it in for a note 5. Don't get me wrong- its a great phone, and at first I really loved it. But after a couple weeks I found myself growing more and more frustrated with it, mainly because of the awkward rear buttons and the bad battery life. The second battery I got from the promo was a necessity cause it simply would not last me the whole day even with battery-saving tweaks and a custom rom. The Samsung home button was still programmed into my muscle memory as well and I kept catching myself poking at the lower edge of the phone to turn it on. It was annoying to not have it there anymore. The fingerprint scanner rarely ever worked and I ended up just disabling it, which really sucked cause it was one of the features that drew me to it in the first place. I never realized how much I used the S-pen until it wasn't there anymore. I missed having hard buttons and found myself hating the stupid screen-shortening soft buttons. It's supposed to have the best camera on the market, but no matter what I did all my shots were either noisy or slightly blurry. I could go on, but you get it.
By the time I finally admitted to myself that there were more things I didn't like about it than things I did, it was too late to just return it and my only option was to do a jump upgrade to another phone. I didn't want to enter into another device payment for another note 4, so I grudgingly got a 64gb note 5 instead fully expecting to hate it, but ended up absolutely loving it. It's fast, I regularly end my days with 40% battery left, and I have full use of my whole screen again. Yes, no SD sucks but it forced me to finally go through all the crap I thought I needed to carry with me everywhere and found I didn't really need 2/3 of it. Got rid of about 25 gigs of music I haven't listened to in years, and rehomed my 128gb card in my tablet. I'm eating a bit of crow after all the crap I talked about the note 5 but I'm very, very happy with this phone.

Nitemare3219 said:
I had the Note5 when it released, and went to the V10 when it released. I am going back to the Note5.
The V10 has been a great phone. I can't begin to explain how nice it is to almost never have to plug in to charge - I always swap batteries instead. The camera on the V10 has a bit more fine-tuning, and much better low light potential, but in automatic point/shoot the Note5 seems to win in most camera comparisons. I also very rarely take pictures... even though the V10's camera was a huge selling point for me, I have no real use for it. Note5 will also outperform the V10, obviously. The audio quality on the Note5 certainly isn't poor, and I really don't notice the V10 being better with my $1,500 AKG K812 headphones, or $1,000 Shure SE846 IEMs - they're low impedance, so either phone drives them fine. The nice thing about the Note5 is having the built-in equalizer, whereas the V10 has none. The biggest selling point for the Note5 though, is the screen. OLED cannot be beat by an LCD. I have an LG OLED TV, and tried to buy a Samsung LCD for use elsewhere, but returned it - the quality is garbage compared to OLED. You're looking at the screen the whole time you're really using a phone - why not have the best screen possible? The lack of SD for Samsung kind of sucks because I have the 200GB card from the V10, but even with that, I have not used over 40GB counting internal storage as well, so the 64GB Note5 will be fine for me. I used to really think the S-pen was cool, but barely used that either. But it's still nice to have. I kind of wish the Note5 used on-screen buttons, but having that extra screen real-estate is nice.
Either phone is a great choice. As you can see I'm back and forth on certain points, haha. If the V10 had an OLED screen and better processor, I'd certainly stay with it. Kind of funny how LG dominates the OLED TV market, yet Samsung dominates the OLED phone display market.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had G4 and while i played with the V10, they not that different, the v10 is better than G4 but not by that much. in fact, G4 is one of the worst phones i ever used, v10 is slightly above it.
If LG could make they own CPU that would rival 7420, unlocked bootloader without any drama and improve their LG UI and software, as i find the new touchwiz far better than lg, then they might tickle the Note 5, but seriously they both aimed at same yet different people, if u want best of the best of all except SD card and removable battery, you take the Note5.
If u mainly care about camera and sd card and battery to swap on the go, you go with V10, oh btw just recently LG recalled a lot of G4 that stuck in a bootloop because the connector inside are not well connected.

Funny you mention that... I find the current versions if TouchWiz much better than LG's skin too...
TouchWiz is to the point I kind of actually like it. I miss some of the features and layout when using my nexus devices. Never thought I would say that!
Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

JasonJoel said:
Funny you mention that... I find the current versions if TouchWiz much better than LG's skin too...
TouchWiz is to the point I kind of actually like it. I miss some of the features and layout when using my nexus devices. Never thought I would say that!
Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Touchwiz was a real cancer, but sammy made a cure, well almost i hope the Android 6.0.1 will introduce even a better touchwiz.

Derpling said:
Touchwiz was a real cancer, but sammy made a cure, well almost i hope the Android 6.0.1 will introduce even a better touchwiz.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TouchWiz on MM is not that much different than it is on LP in terms of features. Though the beta we have isn't final so who knows exactly what is changed. I do like what I have seen so far in the MM beta though as it is even smoother than LP.
Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

Most people wanna hate the note 5 but after using one you will love it.

Both are great phones. LG has come a long ways.
I came from a note 5 to a G4, then a V10, and today, got some the note 5 again.
The note 5 is more polished then the V10. The V10 handed the Microsoft apps much better and the video was better. It was tough for me.
Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

bonebeatz1234 said:
Most people wanna hate the note 5 but after using one you will love it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amen. I talked so much crap about this phone, damning it as a failure because of no SD card, no ir, no removable battery, etc, but now that I have one I love it to death.

I had the V10 for a bit and thought I loved it, but the moment I picked up a Note 5 I knew I had to get one instead. I didn't have to think twice about ditching the V10, there is NO comparison when it comes to the Note 5. I have been a hardcore Samsung hater ever since the Galaxy S3 came out (The GS2 Epic 4G Touch is still one of my all time favs), but they completely won me back with the Note 5. It has literally changed the way I use my phone. I used to think I was a power user, but I didn't know how much of a power user I would become when I first got the Note, it has some seriously game changing features for me (notably split screen and everything the SPen allows). I rely far more on the capabilities of the Note 5 than on any device I have had before. The V10 is barely a memory anymore. The Note 5 is easily the greatest smartphone ever created, there is nothing else that comes close.

Ppl keep talking bout detouchwiz-ing note 5. I've tried nova launcher and Google now launcher and always found myself coming back to the touchwiz launcher. I can't live without the s planner (calender) widget, which didn't work which either launchers.
Been note 2, 3, 4 and 5 user. There is absolutely no lag on note 5. There is absolutely nothing wrong with touchwiz
Love my note 5 to bits!!
Sent from my SM-N920C using XDA Free mobile app