N4 or Note II - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a chance to exchange my N4 for Note II + $120 C on top of my phone. I don't know what to do. I would really like to have super amoled 5.5" screenn, SD card and stronger battery. The things I don't like is physical buttons, and not a Google phone (updates and freedom of Nexus phones). I have no idea what to do. Should I go for it. What you think? Please give me your opinion.

Do it. Use the $120 towards the N4 8gb.
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Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.

Before I got my Nexus, I was going to get the Note ll. Then I saw it up close, too big to fit in my pockets and a pain to hold. I ended getting the nexus 4, you can't beat it. I ended buying it unlocked because I don't want to sign another contract with ROBBERS. Great specs, great price, timely updates and stock Android.
It falls on the user though. Some people enjoy a huge phablet like a note ll. Depends what you are going to use it for.
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I never put my phone in the pants poked anyway. My hands can hold it normally, not to too big. Plastic look is bothering me I have to say that. Compare to N4 look Note II is like a toy. From other side Samsung device like Note II have no others to compare. What else you can take to have super amoled 5.5" screen and similar spec. Nothing really.

I've had both . The note is nice but i think its to big to be a phone for me . The removable battery is nice and I got over a SD slot a long time ago. So for me its N4 all the way .
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N4, nice solid phone, you can't go wrong go with it
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exactly...

I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.

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I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.
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I came from the Note n7000 as well. Used my phone in the same manner, as a mini PC. However, I wouldnt go back to the Note. It all depends on your needs for the phone. If you want a better camera and a media device due to the large screen. Then ya. However, if you prefer excellent battery life on a phone with a global community of great developers then stay with the n4.
PS remember Nexus 4 will get updates much faster than the note 2 and you wont get asked/mocked/ridiculed CONSTANTLY about having such a massive phone and explaining to others why you have it.
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Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.
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i gotta say though the note 2 is lacking in the "original development" area. there's lots of ports and touchwiz based roms but for an aosp, there's much to be desired.
cyanogenmod was onboard until relatively recently then it stopped. it's up to a few to really keep it up and so far, it's all been nightlies and no stable releases.
i just gave up my note 2 and had to come back to a nexus 4 because of the lack of support. gs3 or gs4 probably has proper support.

Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.

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Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.
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Is nexus reception that poor? I need to decide between those two phones. One big drawback for me is mali400 in note 2. I think that adreno 320 is more futureproof. Could you tell me about camera quality on nexus vs note 2? My brother has note 2 but unfortunately i dont know anyone with nexus 4 to compare them.
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Camera in note2 is far superior in focus IQ and speed. Low light images are better on the note 2. I also used to have one.
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Depends on your needs! For instance, a friend of mine is a designer, she loves NOTE2.

Thank you everyone. I will stay with my N4. I just can not stand physical buttons, cheap plastic and huge price differences. N4 is better device except sd card and smaller screen. The only thing I would like is 5.5" but everything else is step back for me. Not even mentioning the community for N4. So much stuff to choose between. With Note 2 after having N4 I will feel like having old device and stick with what I have. No way, not me...

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Thinking about getting the note over the nexus..

I have the Samsung galaxy nexus. I think its a decent phone but I expected it to be more. I don't like the 5mp pixel, no sd slot, and pentile screen. I feel its a bit sluggish time to time since its pushing such a high resolution.
I have someone that offered me his note for my nexus. I never thought of getting a note until this point. I know the phone is big but that's about it.
I know this is a note section and most people are going to say the note. Would any of you choose the nexus over the note? if so why? and if not why?
do keep in mind nexus is the first to receive updates and has a huge dev support. Oh and NFC.
first of all i dun like the looks of the nexus from backside...and the camera is too a 5mp....buttt i hate that my note doesnt show the white as it should be....its yellowish on the top....i advice you to check the note throughly for any screen defects before u exchange your nexus for it...
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jai147 said:
first of all i dun like the looks of the nexus from backside...and the camera is too a 5mp....buttt i hate that my note doesnt show the white as it should be....its yellowish on the top....i advice you to check the note throughly for any screen defects before u exchange your nexus for it...
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Thank you for your advise. I'm going to be extra careful making the switch checking benchmarks etc. ty.
rayoubi said:
I have the Samsung galaxy nexus. I think its a decent phone but I expected it to be more. I don't like the 5mp pixel, no sd slot, and pentile screen. I feel its a bit sluggish time to time since its pushing such a high resolution.
I have someone that offered me his note for my nexus. I never thought of getting a note until this point. I know the phone is big but that's about it.
I know this is a note section and most people are going to say the note. Would any of you choose the nexus over the note? if so why? and if not why?
do keep in mind nexus is the first to receive updates and has a huge dev support. Oh and NFC.
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I had a Nexus before I bought the International Note. I didn't mind the Nexus camera when I had the phone. But when I got this phone I was blown away by how much better the camera was than on the Nexus. I miss the development from the Nexus group, but that's about it. I don't mind gingerbread as much as I thought I would. The screen on the Note is top knotch, typing is fantastic, the camera is wonderful, and the Note doesn't struggle to find reception in areas where my Nexus did. All in all I'm very happy with the International Note.. now all we need is ICS.
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Wow a trade for your nexus to his note is like $100 of value in your favor! He's not asking for additional $100 and the trade?
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The elephant in the room is why is he trading his Note for a clearly inferior phone and at a financial loss?
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The elephant in the room is why is he trading his Note for a clearly inferior phone and at a financial loss?
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I wouldn't say it's clearly inferior. Hardware wise it's not as nice as the Note, but the software on the Nexus more than makes up for that. For those that don't give a rats ass about hardware specs and think the Note is too big, the Nexus is a fine choice. Just sayin'.
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I lost my Galaxy Nexus last week. I went to my phone-store the day after to get a new Nexus, but a played a little with the Note and thought. What the hell! It is not THAT big.
So I ended up with a Galaxy Note, and I can tell you: I could NEVER go back to the Nexus. This thing is amazing. It is very very very much faster, fluid and responsive.
It runs gingerbread, but it doesnt even matter. I dont even miss ICS. And imagine when the Note gets official ICS. It will be game over.
I had the Nexus before, it whas time for my girl to renew her subscription and i told her to get the Note and we traded! I think the Nexus is a good phone but it's not really good overall, it only has 16gb the hardware is kinda not the best, and i didn't like the screen a lot. I would go for the Note once it has ICS it will outperform the Nexus in all departments
That was my choice when I made my decision and for the same reasons as you have identified I chose the note. Having since played with a nexus, I know I made the right choice.
I was between the two and got the note as it seemsled to be the better device in general. Sometimes it lags but it's huge battery and awesome screen make up for it. Also the camera is very good. I highly recommend it. It's great.
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One of my close friends has the Nexus and in all seriousness, the Note not only out-performs it but is a much better device in general. On a daily basis i use the AOKP build and LOVE it. It's very stable with only a few very minor bugs and when we start getting some ICS kernels the device will be blowing the competition out of the water. I use the on screen buttons but i frequently turn them off when gaming so i don't touch them (not to mention use the extra screen real estate which is fantastic). Choose which suits you best, but in all honesty you can't go wrong with the Note. Expandable storage, on-screen and hardware buttons, 5.3 inch screen, tablet or phone mode, it's the perfect device.
I have both right now, the GNex on T-Mo and the GNote on Straight Talk, both 100% stock. The only time I ever even touch the Nexus any more is if I happen to be in an area where the Straight Talk (AT&T) service is bad.
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The Note
I would go with The Note hands down. It's the better hardware, and as far as updates and dev support go, the Note already has a variety of ICS roms to choose from and this is before the official ICS update has been released. There's a healthy dev community for the Note and I expect it to only grow. You won't be missing out with the lack of NFC, especially if you're in North America, as there's been little use of it by companies and we probably won't be seeing its full potential being realized for another couple of years, at which point you'll be ready for a new device.
I purchased the note...few weeks later, I was kind of "hm...the nexus could do the trick as well" and sold the note for a nexus.
7 Days later the Nexus had to leave...and buyed a note again
+ camera is WAY better (my Sony HX9V gets bored in my locker)
+ better screen
+ microSD
+ SPen
+ much faster GPS fix
+ superior Internet experience
+ better headphone sound quality (this is warground...just my impression
- bigger (?)
if it suits your needs, get it. and this goes both ways for nexus or note. if you are a firmware freak who wants to get the pissing right to say you have the latest android version, go get the nexus. but if you only want to run stock and the hardware compliments your mobile life, get the note.
i am inclined to get a nexus sometime soon. camera pixels? i got my dslr to handle that department.
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Note you can't get better phone at the moment! Before Note I've owned HD2 and that phone has ICS just like Galaxy Nexus. Belive me once you will have such a big phone as Note you won't want enything that's smaller from Note!
I was so going to grab a nexus still might just bc I dont think the next google phone will be from sammy........sigh but seeing all this has made me wonder about the gsm note......anyone picked up the lte gsm note ? pricey but yeah lol.
I believe the note screen is also pentile like the nexus, correct? Only reason i prefer the nexus is higher pixel resolution looks sharper since both screens are same res, note is just larger. Both are pentile.
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I purchased the note...few weeks later, I was kind of "hm...the nexus could do the trick as well" and sold the note for a nexus.
7 Days later the Nexus had to leave...and buyed a note again
+ camera is WAY better (my Sony HX9V gets bored in my locker)
+ better screen
+ microSD
+ SPen
+ much faster GPS fix
+ superior Internet experience
+ better headphone sound quality (this is warground...just my impression
- bigger (?)
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Haha, I did the same except I couldn't hold for 7 days, 4 days and came back to the lovely note
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former note1 user, now phoneless. what 2 do next?

Hi guys,
I bought the first galaxy note very early last year, i was probably among the first people to have it. I bought it when I was on a trip to europe and just thought it would be better than the galaxy nexus or galaxy s2, by the time I arrived back to my country I realized that I am stuck with this phone and I better like it either i want to or not. So after a whole year of using it, I sold it to an unknown person for a pretty nice price. (I lost the s-pen, and the phone was pretty bruised).
Believe it or not, today I am without a smartphone and LIFE IS HARD! i am carrying this stupid nokia 5800 which fails at everything... so I am thinking should I buy the note2? should I wait for the htc one x+? S3? or should I continue waiting for something else?
Personally and most honestly the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable. Other than the size, everything else was good. Today after being without a smartphone for about 2 weeks, I get impressed and satisfied even with smaller screens like the s3 features...
so help your brother here find the right path, tell me what I should do in your opinion
I love the 5800 Xpressmusic (I still use mines as my alarm clock... and it's gone 2-3 weeks without charging already).
Nostalgia aside, if you want a smaller device, go with the S3, if you like the note, go with the Note II, it got a bit thinner and a little longer so, it is *slightly* better to hold in the hand. And yeah, I can understand the awkwardness, but then again, I'm the one who walks around with a Nexus 7 in his pockets
The S3 is pretty much comparable to the Note II except there isn't a stylus, however, if you want a smaller phone, I say wait til Oct 29, as Google has just announced a conference about android they might talk about the Nexus 4 device from LG with S4 Pro, 720p 4.7" screen and vanilla android. If you want a bigger phone, get the Note II.
Like the one above say, Note2 is a nr1 device "IF" you can handle the size.
I think the note2 is more easy use with one hand then the old Note1 but it does not make it a small device tho..
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Qvp said:
Hi guys,
I bought the first galaxy note very early last year, i was probably among the first people to have it. I bought it when I was on a trip to europe and just thought it would be better than the galaxy nexus or galaxy s2, by the time I arrived back to my country I realized that I am stuck with this phone and I better like it either i want to or not. So after a whole year of using it, I sold it to an unknown person for a pretty nice price. (I lost the s-pen, and the phone was pretty bruised).
Believe it or not, today I am without a smartphone and LIFE IS HARD! i am carrying this stupid nokia 5800 which fails at everything... so I am thinking should I buy the note2? should I wait for the htc one x+? S3? or should I continue waiting for something else?
Personally and most honestly the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable. Other than the size, everything else was good. Today after being without a smartphone for about 2 weeks, I get impressed and satisfied even with smaller screens like the s3 features...
so help your brother here find the right path, tell me what I should do in your opinion
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Like the others said, if you don't like how big the note is, then maybe you should go with a smaller size. The note 2 isn't as wide as the note 1 tho. You should check it out at a store to see if its good.
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Try the Meizu mx4 or wait for the Xiami mi2.
I'm using the mx4 and I'm very happy with it.
It's 4" sized and thus very nice to hold in your hand.
If you want something thats easy on your wallet try going for last generation material like the s2, which has a similar form factor.
MrColdbird said:
Try the Meizu mx4 or wait for the Xiami mi2.
I'm using the mx4 and I'm very happy with it.
It's 4" sized and thus very nice to hold in your hand.
If you want something thats easy on your wallet try going for last generation material like the s2, which has a similar form factor.
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Can u even get those phones outside of china? I would imagine in Amy country outside of china meizu would be served hot on a plate by apple... you think Samsung copied apple... heck meizu got famous for outright doing so.
If not going for Note i would for sure wait and take a look at the new nexus. Even the LG optimus G looks sweet if you not dislike Lg. Or the one i really want to test out myself when it come to my country later on..Lumia 920.
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Well seems like Note1 was not good for you, so definitely Note2 is not what you looking for.
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Whatever you decide, please get the s3 with exynos and 2gb ram. The i9305. I had a problem with my old s3 where apps constantly had to be bumped off because it was limited to 1gb ram.
Seriously consider the note 2 though. Best device I've ever owned!
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If size was an issue the note 2 is definitely not for you.
Wait for the nexus.
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Qvp said:
...the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable...
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Hello,
As you seem to be very concerned about other peoples feelings/opinions and not your own comfort, don't punish yourself and go with the crowd. Buy a nice iPhone 5, nobody will notice you and you'll feel comfortable.
I'm very sorry but I'm astonished every time about these kind of posts; damned you're big boys and girls so make up your mind and do what you want! It's such a personal thing, nobody can help you because you are you and the others are the others....:silly:
Tonio78370 said:
Hello,
As you seem to be very concerned about other peoples feelings/opinions and not your own comfort, don't punish yourself and go with the crowd. Buy a nice iPhone 5, nobody will notice you and you'll feel comfortable.
I'm very sorry but I'm astonished every time about these kind of posts; damned you're big boys and girls so make up your mind and do what you want! It's such a personal thing, nobody can help you because you are you and the others are the others....:silly:
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I think he is just uncomfortable because when he whips out such a big phone like the note people look at him. It's really is usually big and I get stares too though I don't mind it.
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Ariozo said:
If not going for Note i would for sure wait and take a look at the new nexus. Even the LG optimus G looks sweet if you not dislike Lg. Or the one i really want to test out myself when it come to my country later on..Lumia 920.
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Yesterday I picked up my Note 2.
I was thinking the same thing: A Nexus device that comes out will always get updates a lot faster, and it'll be a "faster" device in general. But then I thought:
Quadcore is NEW and this will last a while on mobile devices.
The Note 2 has 2GB of Ram, which was my first REAL issue with the Note 1
It has an LED notification light
Giant battery
Those are the things I really wanted in my next device! The note 2 fulfills those tasks.
On the plus side of course is the SPen, NFC, and the larger screen. Another 5 inch device would be my only remedy but I didn't see LED notification light and the 2000 mah battery on the HTC version and no SPen. so I said bye bye to that idea! It would be a higher res LCD screen but a lot of minuses in my case (the LED Notification light is NECESSARY for my device now) and then the non removable battery? CRAP! I was on the bus traveling from city to city and my Note 1's battery died, and I just switched it out!
I have 15 days to return it if the next Nexus is a 5 inch device with notification LED, NFC, huge battery & an awesome screen, etc... then I'll change it for the Nexus! haha. But until then, this is a FANTASTIC device.
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Whatever you decide, please get the s3 with exynos and 2gb ram. The i9305. I had a problem with my old s3 where apps constantly had to be bumped off because it was limited to 1gb ram.
Seriously consider the note 2 though. Best device I've ever owned!
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Yesterday I picked up my Note 2.
I was thinking the same thing: A Nexus device that comes out will always get updates a lot faster, and it'll be a "faster" device in general. But then I thought:
Quadcore is NEW and this will last a while on mobile devices.
The Note 2 has 2GB of Ram, which was my first REAL issue with the Note 1
It has an LED notification light
Giant battery
Those are the things I really wanted in my next device! The note 2 fulfills those tasks.
On the plus side of course is the SPen, NFC, and the larger screen. Another 5 inch device would be my only remedy but I didn't see LED notification light and the 2000 mah battery on the HTC version and no SPen. so I said bye bye to that idea! It would be a higher res LCD screen but a lot of minuses in my case (the LED Notification light is NECESSARY for my device now) and then the non removable battery? CRAP! I was on the bus traveling from city to city and my Note 1's battery died, and I just switched it out!
I have 15 days to return it if the next Nexus is a 5 inch device with notification LED, NFC, huge battery & an awesome screen, etc... then I'll change it for the Nexus! haha. But until then, this is a FANTASTIC device.
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Agreed. Definitely the best phone ever made... for now.
Frustration awaits, unless Samsung release those sources.
NO CM FOR YOU.
As nice CM is, i would not flash it on my note. As just on note it is the small things that CM should remove i like. I even thing if i had to chose one phone to only use with Stock it for sure should be the Note.
I cant stand stock most off the time but on Note it is doable.
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I'm awaiting the shipment of my Note II. I've been without my original Note for a while now as I sold it early so I could get more towards the II. I've been using the S3 which is a fantastic phone. Honestly I loved whenever I'd pull out the original Note and people would suddenly stare, joke, question, etc. People were always amazed by it and I can't tell you how many times I got asked if I could actually use it as a phone. People would end up loving it when I would let them use it for web browsing or something. The original Note really wasn't easy to use with one hand, but wasn't impossible. Hearing that the Note II's form factor fits slightly better in hand makes me really happy. Plus the bigger screen is ridiculous!

Would you switch from Note2 to Nexus4?

I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
SysAdmNj said:
I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
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I wouldn't have the note 2 in the first place. You could kill someone with the size of that phone
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I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
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I'm in the same boat. I only have 14 days to make my decision though. I really like the note 2, but I like the idea of not being on contract with T-Mobile hence my conundrum with Nexus 4. What are your thoughts?
Syirrus
F4M0U569 said:
I wouldn't have the note 2 in the first place. You could kill someone with the size of that phone
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Well true, because of its weight I find myself filling up more at the pump.
Syirrus said:
I'm in the same boat. I only have 14 days to make my decision though. I really like the note 2, but I like the idea of not being on contract with T-Mobile hence my conundrum with Nexus 4. What are your thoughts?
Syirrus
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I think the note's size is a little much but if moving to the Nexus4 would mean going backwards as far as performance I wouldnt be happy with that either. I may just end up getting the Nexus4 on top lol.
I don't ownt he Note 2 or plan to buy one. Ever. But if I bought one, it would have been because I wanted a screen that size so I wouldn't trade it for the Nexus 4.
I don't think so...
I have AT&T Note ii and I have Nexus 4 16GB on the way. But I am buying Nexus 4 just to see how it is and then give it to my dad in India. There are multiple reasons for sticking with Note ii.
1) Removable MicroSD slot
2) Awesome Battery Life and Removable Battery
3) LTE Speeds (I use team viewer a lot to help my family and friends with their PCs and I am youtube junkie. Also s-pen helps a lot with team viewer and gotomypc apps.)
4) Every custom UI has its drawbacks and its positives. I feel like TouchWiz has improved a lottt and it has amazing new features which I use a lot on Note ii, like smart stay,smart rotation, smart alert, direct call, turn over to mute, palm swipe to capture screen shot and many more...
5) S-Pen is just amazing feature. I love to note down things immediately and also taking notes in the meeting. I love playing draw something too. :silly:
6) Big size and screen is negative for someone, but for me, I just love the big screen. It can be cumbersome to use it with one hand sometimes, but rest of the times while watching youtube videos and pictures and browsing, the experience is just stellar.
I have nexus 7 and I gotta tell you, for my own test, stock android doesn't cut it. I have to do many extra things to customize it. Though, it is just my opinion. Plenty of people love the stock android.
I dont know why people keep comparing them, ones a tablet that makes calls and ones a phone
I sold off my Note 2 to get the Nexus 4.
The size of the Note didn't bother me too much, I was still able to carry/bring it everywhere like a regular phone. The problems I had with it mostly laid with Touchwiz. I've only owned Nexus devices, I've had every single one of them (even if I only kept the Gnex for 6 months. **** verizon). I just really didn't like the looks of it, it's not visually appealing at all. Then we get to the s-pen. It certainly is a cool feature, but I'm no artist, I rarely need to edit spreadsheets on a mobile device. So it was mostly going unused for me. Plus the cost, I would rather pay half the price of the Note to have a device thats still quite high end. The $710 pricetag of the Note (with tax) really put a dent in my fun moneys.
My overall experience with the Note just solidified that I'll likely never own a Samsung cell phone, unless they make another Nexus.
I already have
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I sold off my Note 2 to get the Nexus 4.
The size of the Note didn't bother me too much, I was still able to carry/bring it everywhere like a regular phone. The problems I had with it mostly laid with Touchwiz. I've only owned Nexus devices, I've had every single one of them (even if I only kept the Gnex for 6 months. **** verizon). I just really didn't like the looks of it, it's not visually appealing at all. Then we get to the s-pen. It certainly is a cool feature, but I'm no artist, I rarely need to edit spreadsheets on a mobile device. So it was mostly going unused for me. Plus the cost, I would rather pay half the price of the Note to have a device thats still quite high end. The $710 pricetag of the Note (with tax) really put a dent in my fun moneys.
My overall experience with the Note just solidified that I'll likely never own a Samsung cell phone, unless they make another Nexus.
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If the note was unlocked I would keep it over the nex 4 any day... The nex 4 seems awesome but a note 2 is an amassing device.. Of I could get an unlocked one for around the same price I would love to get one..
Just curious, how much did you sell the note for and was it unlocked?
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Note II to a Nexus 4 would be a huge downgrade.
Problem with touchwiz? Unlock and install vanilla android on it and problem solved.
I could never give up my Note II the screen size is amazing, camera is amazing and there hasn't been any major issues that I have heard. I think the Nexus as amazing as it is isn't quite at the same level as the Note.
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Note II to a Nexus 4 would be a huge downgrade.
Problem with touchwiz? Unlock and install vanilla android on it and problem solved.
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Can you actually do that?! If so, please point at the thread!!!
I wouldn't. The quality of Note 2 is significantly better, components used are better, internal design is better and what you get with Nexus 4 is a slightly faster CPU (which is slower after it throttles down) and official vanilla Android. I mean, it's a great phone for its price that I'm considering getting but it's not as good as the Note 2 overall. If you don't care about timely updates to official Android for the next 2 years or so as much as about hardware quality I'd keep the Note 2.
i have both. the nexus 4 is a solid phone but doesnt compare with the note 2. the note 2 is quicker ( regardless of benchmarks), samsung have done a top job with this version of touchwiz & the screen quality seems more vivid plus the additional size makes everything a pleasure:good:
Not really amused by the Nexus 4, I want a Note 2 now.
I have n4 would rather had note II but didnt have note II money. Nexus is fast. Its one the the best phones out and great price.
I don't want a phablet, I was happy to give up using a stylus once capacitive screens came out and there is no way in hell I'd pay $600 for an android device. N4 is an easy choice and if I already had the Note II I'd sell it, buy a N4 and have $300 ready for next year when the N5 comes out.
600 dollars for a big piece of touchwiz plastic. No thank you. N4 is good for me and then some.
Already have..... I took it back after using it for 10 days, got me 2 nexus and $89 back.
I've been using my Nexus for a day already and I don't miss the note.
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Nexus 4 or Note 2 and why?

Im currently looking at both and just want to hear pros and cons like signal and any other issues all comments are much appreciated.
I own a Note 2, and just ordered the N4 for my wife, so I cant comment on the N4 yet. However, I believe it boils down to a handful of differences between them. They are both very, very smooth, very fast phones, so take that out of the equation.
1) Bigger vs smaller screen. I like the Note 2's ginormous screen.
2) Touchwiz vs JB as Google intended. I personally dont mind TW, and can always throw Nova on it if I get tired of it.
3) Updates. Samsung will take way longer obviously than Google. If you MUST have the newest right now, its a no brainer.
4) If using TMo, the Note 2 allows for WIFI calling. May be helpful to you.
5) S-Pen. A bit of a novelty, but kind of useful.
You missed the most important point: tablet-class battery. To borrow a car analogy, there's no replacement for displacement.
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You missed the most important point: tablet-class battery. To borrow a car analogy, there's no replacement for displacement.
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True, forgot about that. I can abuse the hell out of it and get 4+ screen time. Use it gingerly and approach 8.
I've owned both phones and honestly the Note 2 is great choice if you don't mind touchwiz and the larger size.
Note Pros:
It's gets more than double the battery life of the Nexus 4.
Beautiful, larger screen.
Touchwiz extras (wifi calling, multi-window mode, spen, gestures, etc)
Note Cons:
Slower rom development.
A bit too big to use one handed comfortably.
More expensive.
Bloated.
Nexus Pros:
WAY sexier and feels WAY better in hand.
Better development.
Half the price (unlocked)
No carrier bloat.
Nexus Cons:
Battery life not great compared to the note 2.
Speaker not as good.
The stock android on the N4 is nice and the screen size of the note is awesome. I think im leaning to the Nexus because of the Dev support keeps a phone new. Hows the call quality of both?
i'm in the same boat...i already have the n4 but i'm underwhelmed by it coming from the galaxy nexus. i know with the nexus you get the updates but custom roms like cm10 will come along for the note2. another big advantage for the note2 is the expandable storage. otg doesn't even work for the n4
I prefer the N4 as a PHONE, but as a more media-consumption-driven device, the Note 2 would beat it. The N4 is easier in-pocket and in-hand. The Note 2 would be better for reading, video, content creation.
Obviously, I chose the N4 over a Note 2. I prefer the smaller screen (and it's by no means small IMO), the pure or easily customizable Android (I had a Samsung phone before, TouchWiz can eat it), and the ability to jump to essentially any GSM network.
I have both. Initially i preferred my note 2 but now im used to the n4 screen, i much prefer it. To me, the note 2 screen doesnt seem as crisp as n4 & whilst the note w is fast, the n4 seems alot snappier in everyday use for myself.
Obviously watching youtube etc is great on the note 2 due to the real estate of the screen & i find the s pen relly handy & samsung did a cracking job of touchwiz on this device but ive grown to prefer the n4 as my daily driver & the note 2 is going on ebay this weekend!
Hope it helps.
Arguably the two best phones on the market right now. Its always a personal choice cause we all like different things on our phones but major pros of both phones are:
For nexus 4,
PRICE!!!! Pentaband, pure android, no bloatware and you get updates soon as its available. On top of that development is always great on nexus devices. Also more "portable" than note 2, and better screen. Both perform well without any lag so performance is pretty much even.
For Note 2,
INCREDIBLE BATTERY LIFE! I can't emphasize it enough, it truly is something else, ive never seen a smartphone perform so well in that area. More features, S pen has amazing things like air view, more storage, bigger screen means better for media consumption (movies, games blah blah) but size can be a con for some however when you go purchase the note 2 the size is obvious so there's no excuse to complain about it when its so obvious.
Bottom line is both phones are great, but honestly in a long run, a Nexus ALWAYS has the edge because of the support it gets. If you're like me, that does not matter a bit cause I switch smart phones more often than I go to the movies (and its not a joke ).
The galaxy nexus is still relevant to this day, it just received android 4.2.1 while for example, the galaxy s 2 is slowly becoming a retired phone.
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Im currently looking at both and just want to hear pros and cons like signal and any other issues all comments are much appreciated.
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imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
I still on the fence on this i had the 1st note and the galaxy nexus both were great. I dont have LTE in my area with AT&T yet so thats not really an issue so can i use the N4 as a dumb phone on at&t.
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imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
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Only dweebs and squares use cell phones for calls.
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atomo37 said:
imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
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Only dweebs and squares use cell phones for calls.
N4 has a better CPU/GPU and can be operated 1 handed plus it's pure google and has on screen buttons.
but the note 2 has cool touchwhiz features but it's bloated and too big for 1 handed use.
I have an S3, but have considered switching to the N4, I just cant find the motivation though... will the Quad Core give me that much of a real world NOTICEABLE speed difference? and why does the N4 appear to have a yellow tint to its screen? I also worry about potential quality issues.
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I have an S3, but have considered switching to the N4, I just cant find the motivation though... will the Quad Core give me that much of a real world NOTICEABLE speed difference? and why does the N4 appear to have a yellow tint to its screen? I also worry about potential quality issues.
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i believe that is temporary...just the glue drying - will go away in a week or so.
I came from an S3 and couldn't be happier. The phone does feel a bit faster than my S3 did. Battery life is about the same, the S3 might have been a little better. The only thing I miss about the S3 is the SD card slot, but Google music has me covered.
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I came from an S3 and couldn't be happier. The phone does feel a bit faster than my S3 did. Battery life is about the same, the S3 might have been a little better. The only thing I miss about the S3 is the SD card slot, but Google music has me covered.
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How is the screen size difference? is it real noticeable? and does Netflix, Youtube and videos in general Full Screen?
Is the Yellow Tint really just glue drying? that doesn't make much sense to me.
Between the 2 the Note 2 is easily a better phone. Being a media hog my self I love the huge screen and its beautiful. Also love the design.
Anybody having issues using the N4 on att non-smartphone plan can att tell the difference i really like not having to pay for another smartphone on my family plan.

Galaxy Nexus owner considering upgrade to Nexus 4

I was really hoping for the rumored 32GB LTE version to be announced at I/O but it seems that phone is a myth. So I'm now considering getting the current Nexus 4.
I'm curious to know if there are any ex-Galaxy Nexus owners in here and what their take on it is. Personally I love my phone for normal use. Running CM10.1 I'm able to do everything--aside from games--with smooth ease. Sadly, Subway Surfers and Iron Man are almost not worth playing on my phone and that's kind of a bummer. I'm also starting to see ghosting/burn-in in my screen, which isn't horrible but I think I'm over AMOLED. The real kicker is that my volume rocker has stopped working and it is the most inconvenient thing I've ever experienced on a modern smartphone.
So, should I upgrade?
I had the Galaxy Nexus and love the N5.
It's a worthwhile upgrade and at $349 the price can't be beat!
I say go for it! :good:
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I had the Galaxy Nexus and love the N5.
It's a worthwhile upgrade and at $349 the price can't be beat!
I say go for it! :good:
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Nice. Wish I had a nexus 5.
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Another Galaxy Nexus --> Nexus 4 owner here.
I couldn't be happier. The phone is gorgeous, and just oozes smoothness over the GNex. :good:
Another one chiming in.... Nexus 4 trumps GNex for me in every way. Good price as others have mentioned, and you will love the solid feeling design of the N4 compared to the plastic on the GNex. Make sure to get a back glass and front screen protector.
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The nexus 4 is a definite upgrade over the g nexus. But if you want removable battery and sd card get the S4 Google edition.
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barondebxl said:
The nexus 4 is a definite upgrade over the g nexus. But if you want removable battery and sd card get the S4 Google edition.
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Now, I don't want to start a whole Nexus 4 vs. GS4 GE debate, but I do want to just point out that both phones have their pros and cons. GS4 GE has removable storage and battery, and does have better hardware. Nexus 4 costs about half as much and is still a top-of-the-line phone. Again, not trying to start a debate, but OP, if you're considering upgrading to either of these, I'd say go check the pros and cons. There's a thread you can go to made specifically for debating the N4 vs any other phone. If I find it, I'll edit this post and put it in.
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Now, I don't want to start a whole Nexus 4 vs. GS4 GE debate, but I do want to just point out that both phones have their pros and cons. GS4 GE has removable storage and battery, and does have better hardware. Nexus 4 costs about half as much and is still a top-of-the-line phone. Again, not trying to start a debate, but OP, if you're considering upgrading to either of these, I'd say go check the pros and cons. There's a thread you can go to made specifically for debating the N4 vs any other phone. If I find it, I'll edit this post and put it in.
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I spent $600 on my Galaxy Nexus a month and a half before it went on the Play Store. I told myself I'd never spend that much on a phone (upfront) again. While I would love the S4GE, I just can't see myself dropping $650 + tax + shipping.
Thanks to everyone who replied! I'm pretty sure a Nexus 4 is in my future.
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I was really hoping for the rumored 32GB LTE version to be announced at I/O but it seems that phone is a myth. So I'm now considering getting the current Nexus 4.
I'm curious to know if there are any ex-Galaxy Nexus owners in here and what their take on it is. Personally I love my phone for normal use. Running CM10.1 I'm able to do everything--aside from games--with smooth ease. Sadly, Subway Surfers and Iron Man are almost not worth playing on my phone and that's kind of a bummer. I'm also starting to see ghosting/burn-in in my screen, which isn't horrible but I think I'm over AMOLED. The real kicker is that my volume rocker has stopped working and it is the most inconvenient thing I've ever experienced on a modern smartphone.
So, should I upgrade?
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I did and am extremely happy with the decision. I had the GNex on VZW, and even got rid of my service so I could switch to the N4 on a GSM provider. Very glad I did. This phone is extremely smooth and the developer support is tremendous just like our old Gnex. Only downside compared to Gnex is lack of replaceable battery but I really havent run into an issue with this. I have an external battery backup just in case, but havent even run into a situation where I needed to use it. Plus as everyone else has noted the price simply cant be beat. There might be newer, more powerful phones on the market now (GS4, HTC1) but they would run you double to buy outright or you would have to lock in a service contract. In my opinion it just isnt worth the extra money for those, plus they lack the full nexus experience.
N4 has better screen, battery, design, quality.
And of course CPU and GPU is light years away.
After that is camera 2 gigs of ram that makes the super smooth.
So to conclude it is much better than GN.
Stop thinking about it. Buy N4 and sell the GN or keep as a spare.
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I did the upgrade a few days ago and I can tell you that it's totally worth it! Even with the upcoming S4 Google version, I think N4 is still a better choice by design and functionality. (Yes, S4 is more powerful in terms of hardware but the button design has ruined everything IMO)
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Another Galaxy Nexus --> Nexus 4 owner here.
I couldn't be happier. The phone is gorgeous, and just oozes smoothness over the GNex. :good:
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i came from the gnex and i think the nexus 4 is better in every way but the screen. i miss the super amoled screen on the gnex's. im just so use to amoled screens since my last 3 phones had them lol. the nexus 4 looks washed out to me. but thats just my opinion.
Yeah... I just switched from the galaxy nexus as well... couldn't be happier! Battery life has been just as good as stock battery gn and it's much faster... I don't think the s4 is worth nearly twice the price
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s10shane said:
i came from the gnex and i think the nexus 4 is better in every way but the screen. i miss the super amoled screen on the gnex's. im just so use to amoled screens since my last 3 phones had them lol. the nexus 4 looks washed out to me. but thats just my opinion.
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I agree with you. When I first came off of the amoled my Nex4 did look washed out. Once I got used to the colors on the Nex4 I realized how much more true to life they are. Now when I look at amoled it looks like a over saturated replica of colors.
The N4 makes the GNex blow IMO.
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