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Initial memory on HTC P3600

The initial memory occupied in my HTC P3600 is 10,98MB of Storage memory and 23,86MB of Program memory.
This means that about 50% of Program memory and 20% of Archive are not usable from beggining...
Is it the correct or I have some settings or ROM version that is memory comsuming?

Oops..May be it is usefull also to give you the other memory informations (in the while seems that other memory has been used ):
Storage
Total: 54.99 MB
In use: 11.21 MB
Free: 43.77 MB
Program
Total: 48.75 MB
In use: 23.98 MB
Free: 24.77 MB

Issues with Task Manager!!

I recently updated my Galaxy 3 to android 2.2 via kies (official update). Now, there is a icon for Task Manager showing which is inbuilt in 2.2
Galaxy 3 has 256 MB RAM. On the RAM Manager tab of Task Manager, it is written that 150 MB/246 MB. As far as I understand this, it means that 150 MB RAM is currently used out of total 246 MB.
My queries:
1) As per specs, it must be 256 MB but 246 MB is written in RAM Manager tab
2) On Active Apps tab of Task Manager tab, there are two apps listed with 12.23 MB and 6.53 MB RAM usage respectively, that means a total of 18.76 MB but at the same time, RAM Manager tab shows 150 MB usage. How is this possible...a bug or am i construing something wrong?
3) On RAM Manager tab, there are 2 buttons for Level 1 and Level 2 and a bar of Level 1 and Level 2. why there are 2 buttons for Level 1 and Level 2?
4) On Package tab, there is a line that says: Package Size: code + data. Program: 161 MB/194 MB. What is the meaning of this?
Note: I have not installed any app in SD card so all the memory here is phone memory

Well, level 1 is for closing inactive apps and level 2 is for closing inactive and background apps to free space
Sent from Lestatious 1.8 Alpha 10 1.3GHz

thanks for the reply. What are background apps? Can they be active apps?

Can anyone please answer this?

vijay.gupta said:
2) On Active Apps tab of Task Manager tab, there are two apps listed with 12.23 MB and 6.53 MB RAM usage respectively, that means a total of 18.76 MB but at the same time, RAM Manager tab shows 150 MB usage. How is this possible...a bug or am i construing something wrong?
4) On Package tab, there is a line that says: Package Size: code + data. Program: 161 MB/194 MB. What is the meaning of this?
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I can answer 2
2) The apps displayed are the running apps. There are many apps and services that run in the background and eventually consume memory. You can check that by going to setting > services and setting > manage applications> running apps. All these are running in background and will always use RAM.
4) This means that you have used 161 MB of your internal memory. It displays the total apps size

Also before you say somenthing about the low free ram space, in android phones it doesnt matter as hard as windows, here the common trend is "free ram memory is wasted memory" this because the andrioid system manage correctly the apps loaded to ram and terminates them when its needed (almost all the time), and loads.all the services you need to run, just when you feel that an app is consuming too.much or the phone.gets slow you can. Use the.inbuilt.ram.sweep, level 1 is soft sweep, it just close the active applications, for example music player if you are running music. Level 2 its a deep sweep, closing all.backgroud apps like sync, launcher etc
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA App

Answer to the 1st question:
The task manager shows "incorrect" amount of RAM because of the different calculation method. Manufacturers use an approximate value of 1000kb for 1mb, but software counts 1048kb=1mb (1024*1024 bytes). Thus 246mb*1,048=~257mb. Check wikipedia for more reference.
Sent from my LESTATIOUS GT-I5800 using XDA App

Thanks all for the valuable information and clearing up the air

I was checking my phone specs on
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2392&c=samsung_gt-i5801_galaxy_3__gt-i5800_galaxy_spica_2
There is a line there:
ROM_capacity: 512 MiB (accessible: 170 MiB)
I know that it has 512 MiB ROM but what is the meaning of 170 MiB accessible here?
I assume that 512 MiB is only for Android OS?

vijay.gupta said:
ROM_capacity: 512 MiB (accessible: 170 MiB)
I know that it has 512 MiB ROM but what is the meaning of 170 MiB accessible here?
I assume that 512 MiB is only for Android OS?
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ROM is different from RAM
I assume these 170 MiB are the free space dedicated to install apps. Am I wrong ?

Yes, thats right, if im not wrong, the 512mib ROM space is used to install All the android system, leaving only 172 mb to install apps

Thanks. That means:
Total Internal Storage (ROM) = 512 MiB out of which
Storage available for android OS = 342 MiB
Storage available to install apps = 170 MiB

Total Internal Storage (ROM) = 512 MiB
It's kinda dumb to call it ROM, as it stands for Read Only Memmory. U can write/delete your ROM, including those 170MB for apps and those 342MB of OS memory with root access. Even Samsung calls it ROM...

That's what I was confused about when I first visited this forum...basically here the terminology is wrong....nothing is ROM here...and they are calling phone internal memory as ROM...

How does moving apps between "internal app storage" and "sd card" work o 4.4.2?

How does moving apps between "internal app storage" and "sd card" work o 4.4.2?
Hi!
I have a rooted A3500F and cannot figure out which partitions and directories are involved in the aforementioned operation. What the system is showing is very confusing, e.g. with Google Earth:
1) installed in "internal app":
settings: storage available = 2.55 GB, apps (data & media )= 8.31 GB, system = 2.92 GB
app info: total = 206 MB, app =~ 26 MB, data = 180 MB
2) installed in "sd card":
settings: storage available = 2.59 GB, apps (data & media )= 8.32 GB, system = 2.92 GB
app info: total = 223 MB, app =~ 43 MB, data = 180 MB
So system and "app data " do not change. But the rest in the "app info" does not add up!
First it total + app = 232 MB whereas on sd it amounts to 266. Where the extra 34 MB comes from? Thin air?
This is very confusing and the system developers did really poor job in breaking down these amounts for users...
I was able to figure out that sdcard = /data/media/0 = /storage/emulated/0 = /mnt/sdcard and possibly "internal app" is somewhere on /data/media/? /data/app? /data/cache? /data/system?
I wonder what kind of hard limit this "moving" operation is overcoming if everything seems to occur on the "/data" partition and the "/system" does not change? Why is it available in the "app" setting? I use AIO tool to make such move in batch but I'm not sure of the benefits?
Also the "Apps" setting shows 2.9 GB free for the "Downloaded" section and 2.6 GB free for the "SD card" - where do these numbers come from? (it shows in both cases 10GB used and I know that /system takes up 3GB)
It's also weird on my Xperia C1505, e.g. app info storage about AOI Toolbox shows: total 4.4 MB, app on phone 6.17 MB and data on phone 4.4 MB. How could it be that "total" <> "app + data" ?! What then the "total" means?
Apps:
Downloaded / "Phone memory": 643 MB used 96 MB free (total of 740 results from what?)
Internal storage: 592 MB used 1.4 GB free
Running / RAM: 363 MB used 46 MB free (where did 100 MB of RAM go?)
All / "Phone memory": 643 MB used 96 MB free
How are these numbers related to the specs: 0.5 GB RAM, 4 GB internal ?
This is very confusing!
Is this all somehow related to the cache for running apps?
I tried searching for answers on various forums but did not find a good explanation, where it would be simply, unquestionably stated between exactly which directories or partitions this "move" is done.
I would greatly appreciate your help with this problem.
Cheers!

I can't find files taking up space in my internal memory of an android phone

I have bought Lenovo k4 note n have recently upgraded to marshmallow. So I ve 16 GB of internal memory out of which the Android 6.0 inbuilt memory app inside storage and USB setting, says 5.37 GB is OS occupied. 9.46 GB out of 10.63 GB is used. Further break down are as follows:
Apps 5.29 GB
Images 105 MB
Videos 8 KB
Audio 588 KB
Other 488 MB
Cached Data 183 MB
Which totals to 6.066 GB. So now subtracting 9.46 with 6.066 GB I get 3.394 GB which I can't understand where it went.
Still after going inside file manager n clicking the view hidden files these are what I get:
Android 2.17 GB
Download 278.01 MB
Shareit 200 MB
WhatsApp 136 MB
Pictures 74 MB
Books 52 MB
DCIM 29 MB
Which comes to around 3 something GB and still 3 GB are missing.. so.. around 6 GB of files are not showing.. I am unable to find the files that are taking up space. Can anyone help please.

Now I have rooted my device with Twrp n SuperSU and and now I still have the same problem of large data files. Is it normal or can I get more space. The user data which I wasn't able to see is accessible now. Can I delete those data to free up space. And how do I get to look files taking up space which actually adds up to the space I have. The first pic I uploaded provides information of my phone's storage handled my marshmallow s219. You can see that 5.24 GB is OS occupied compared to unrooted 5.37 GB. The second image points to the fact that only around 3.2 GB of space is shown out of supposed 6.25 GB. The third image tells the accessible part of my phone data which is very low (around 700 MB). And the third is the inaccessible files which I have come to see through the blessing of rooting the phone. So I think my phone shouldn't use up that much data as I don't be very large app. Largest is Facebook. Can someone help me to optimise my phone. Thanking you guys in advance.?

confused about internal storage

Hi,
My Redmi 2 is supposed to have 8 GB internal storage.
In Settings > Storage, it reports only 5.75 GB total, 790 MB Available. Funnily, Apps take up 6.32 GB.
Using Wifi file transfer browser interface, it reports space available 0.69/5.31 GB.
I connect it to an Ubuntu machine via USB, and manage to mount the internal storage. Checking the properties give 633 MB free space, and only 1.7 GB of contents.
Where did my internal storage go ???
Using disk analyzer, the largest percentage is taken up by Tencent folder (43%), followed by DCIM (25%) and JOOX (17%). The rest are single figure percentages.
Inside Tencent, the folder taking up 93% space is sfs. Inside this are folders avatar and sns, and a coupleof files ***.00002 (total 530 MB). If I tried zipping the avatar and sns folders, the zipped files are only 25 MB in total.
Using Wechat (which owns the Tencent folder) to check its storage, it reported using 672 MB, but 4GB by "Others" and 705 MB "Left".
What is this Others???
Using Settings >> Installed Apps, it reports Wechat using only a modest 309 MB. Chrome uses 328 MB. Youtube uses 2.94GB but most of this is in the SD card.
Anyways, install apps seems to take up 5.84 GB. But 2.9 GB of these should be the Youtube data in the SD card. So the other installed apps take up about 3 GB.
Using Cleaner >> Deep Clean, there are only 10 Big Files (files bigger than 10 MB) totalling 1.1 GB. 555 MB for those ****.00002 files mentioned above.
Seems like at least 2GB is missing ??? Already a few times I had trouble installing apps because of lack of storage, after some clean up it was ok, but I think it's gonna run out again soon.

wkogane said:
Hi,
My Redmi 2 is supposed to have 8 GB internal storage.
In Settings > Storage, it reports only 5.75 GB total, 790 MB Available. Funnily, Apps take up 6.32 GB.
Using Wifi file transfer browser interface, it reports space available 0.69/5.31 GB.
I connect it to an Ubuntu machine via USB, and manage to mount the internal storage. Checking the properties give 633 MB free space, and only 1.7 GB of contents.
Where did my internal storage go ???
Using disk analyzer, the largest percentage is taken up by Tencent folder (43%), followed by DCIM (25%) and JOOX (17%). The rest are single figure percentages.
Inside Tencent, the folder taking up 93% space is sfs. Inside this are folders avatar and sns, and a coupleof files ***.00002 (total 530 MB). If I tried zipping the avatar and sns folders, the zipped files are only 25 MB in total.
Using Wechat (which owns the Tencent folder) to check its storage, it reported using 672 MB, but 4GB by "Others" and 705 MB "Left".
What is this Others???
Using Settings >> Installed Apps, it reports Wechat using only a modest 309 MB. Chrome uses 328 MB. Youtube uses 2.94GB but most of this is in the SD card.
Anyways, install apps seems to take up 5.84 GB. But 2.9 GB of these should be the Youtube data in the SD card. So the other installed apps take up about 3 GB.
Using Cleaner >> Deep Clean, there are only 10 Big Files (files bigger than 10 MB) totalling 1.1 GB. 555 MB for those ****.00002 files mentioned above.
Seems like at least 2GB is missing ??? Already a few times I had trouble installing apps because of lack of storage, after some clean up it was ok, but I think it's gonna run out again soon.
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1. Settings>Storage reports only 5.75 gb total because it is the space available for the user. Rest 2.25 gb are different partitions comprising of mainly system and cache partition.
2. Ubuntu machine shows only 1.7gb of content and 633 mb free space because the rest is occupied by installed apps and it didn't show up in the Ubuntu machine.
3. So now if we do the mathematics, nothing is strange-
3gb (installed apps) + 1.7 gb contents + 0.7gb (free)+ rest(cache, etc)=5.75gb