I recently updated my Galaxy 3 to android 2.2 via kies (official update). Now, there is a icon for Task Manager showing which is inbuilt in 2.2
Galaxy 3 has 256 MB RAM. On the RAM Manager tab of Task Manager, it is written that 150 MB/246 MB. As far as I understand this, it means that 150 MB RAM is currently used out of total 246 MB.
My queries:
1) As per specs, it must be 256 MB but 246 MB is written in RAM Manager tab
2) On Active Apps tab of Task Manager tab, there are two apps listed with 12.23 MB and 6.53 MB RAM usage respectively, that means a total of 18.76 MB but at the same time, RAM Manager tab shows 150 MB usage. How is this possible...a bug or am i construing something wrong?
3) On RAM Manager tab, there are 2 buttons for Level 1 and Level 2 and a bar of Level 1 and Level 2. why there are 2 buttons for Level 1 and Level 2?
4) On Package tab, there is a line that says: Package Size: code + data. Program: 161 MB/194 MB. What is the meaning of this?
Note: I have not installed any app in SD card so all the memory here is phone memory
Well, level 1 is for closing inactive apps and level 2 is for closing inactive and background apps to free space
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thanks for the reply. What are background apps? Can they be active apps?
Can anyone please answer this?
vijay.gupta said:
2) On Active Apps tab of Task Manager tab, there are two apps listed with 12.23 MB and 6.53 MB RAM usage respectively, that means a total of 18.76 MB but at the same time, RAM Manager tab shows 150 MB usage. How is this possible...a bug or am i construing something wrong?
4) On Package tab, there is a line that says: Package Size: code + data. Program: 161 MB/194 MB. What is the meaning of this?
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I can answer 2
2) The apps displayed are the running apps. There are many apps and services that run in the background and eventually consume memory. You can check that by going to setting > services and setting > manage applications> running apps. All these are running in background and will always use RAM.
4) This means that you have used 161 MB of your internal memory. It displays the total apps size
Also before you say somenthing about the low free ram space, in android phones it doesnt matter as hard as windows, here the common trend is "free ram memory is wasted memory" this because the andrioid system manage correctly the apps loaded to ram and terminates them when its needed (almost all the time), and loads.all the services you need to run, just when you feel that an app is consuming too.much or the phone.gets slow you can. Use the.inbuilt.ram.sweep, level 1 is soft sweep, it just close the active applications, for example music player if you are running music. Level 2 its a deep sweep, closing all.backgroud apps like sync, launcher etc
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Answer to the 1st question:
The task manager shows "incorrect" amount of RAM because of the different calculation method. Manufacturers use an approximate value of 1000kb for 1mb, but software counts 1048kb=1mb (1024*1024 bytes). Thus 246mb*1,048=~257mb. Check wikipedia for more reference.
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Thanks all for the valuable information and clearing up the air
I was checking my phone specs on
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2392&c=samsung_gt-i5801_galaxy_3__gt-i5800_galaxy_spica_2
There is a line there:
ROM_capacity: 512 MiB (accessible: 170 MiB)
I know that it has 512 MiB ROM but what is the meaning of 170 MiB accessible here?
I assume that 512 MiB is only for Android OS?
vijay.gupta said:
ROM_capacity: 512 MiB (accessible: 170 MiB)
I know that it has 512 MiB ROM but what is the meaning of 170 MiB accessible here?
I assume that 512 MiB is only for Android OS?
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ROM is different from RAM
I assume these 170 MiB are the free space dedicated to install apps. Am I wrong ?
Yes, thats right, if im not wrong, the 512mib ROM space is used to install All the android system, leaving only 172 mb to install apps
Thanks. That means:
Total Internal Storage (ROM) = 512 MiB out of which
Storage available for android OS = 342 MiB
Storage available to install apps = 170 MiB
Total Internal Storage (ROM) = 512 MiB
It's kinda dumb to call it ROM, as it stands for Read Only Memmory. U can write/delete your ROM, including those 170MB for apps and those 342MB of OS memory with root access. Even Samsung calls it ROM...
That's what I was confused about when I first visited this forum...basically here the terminology is wrong....nothing is ROM here...and they are calling phone internal memory as ROM...
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Newb- ~ 1 week with new Cing-8125 - 1st handheld - it rocks
Why does "Device Info" say
RAM = 64MB
Flash = 128MB
But "Memory" shows:
Memory storage = 47.46MB
Program Total = 44.00MB
This is only 91.46MB
Is this correct ? Where's the rest?
Thanks
I am curious about this as well. According to Device Info, I should have 64MB to run programs and 128MB for storage, but I am well under that. :?
Can anyone explain what is going on???
Thanks,
Dave
You're only going to get 128 MB of ROM and 64 MB or RAM with nothing installed on the device. The ROM, which consists of the OS, the Cingular stuff, and the other included applications takes up quite a bit of storages space, about 57 MB. As for the RAM, the OS needs memory to run as well. I've installed a ton of things on my Cingular 8125 already, so I have no idea what the standard amounts are, perhaps someone would be so kind as to post them.
Missing ROM & RAM
PointZero said:
You're only going to get 128 MB of ROM and 64 MB or RAM with nothing installed on the device. The ROM, which consists of the OS, the Cingular stuff, and the other included applications takes up quite a bit of storages space, about 57 MB. As for the RAM, the OS needs memory to run as well. I've installed a ton of things on my Cingular 8125 already, so I have no idea what the standard amounts are, perhaps someone would be so kind as to post them.
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I understand that, but...
I would expect it to report like so:
Storage
Total: 128 MB
In Use: 38.54 MB
Free: 89.46 MB
Program
Total: 64 MB
In Use: 31.73 MB
Free: 32.27 MB
But instead I get:
Storage
Total: 47.46 MB
In Use: 38.54 MB
Free: 8.92 MB
Program
Total: 44.01 MB
In Use: 31.73 MB
Free: 12.28 MB
So what happened to 80.54 MB of ROM (Storage) & 19.99 MB of RAM (Program)? Are you saying that the base OS uses up this much RAM & ROM, and the system just shows it as not even being there? The actual image (nk.nbf) in the OS installer is 80MB in size so this does seem to add up. :wink:
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Hello,
When I go to Settings --> System --> Memory :
I see this:
Storage Program
Total: 59.66 MB Total: 49.10 MB
In use: 24.32 MB In use: 19.14 MB
Free: 35.34 MB Free: 29.88 MB
The spec of the phone says that :
ROM=128M
RAM=64M
Why my storage and program don't reflect that?
Also, I don't see any programs actively running, but it still says 19.14 is used?
Thanks.
obviously the operating sw and the system files take up memory. the available memory always less, than in the specfication.
I was just reading about the specs of Galaxy 3 on http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i5801_galaxy_apollo-3432.php
There was a line about memory which says:
Internal 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM
Now, in this, I understood 256 MB RAM which is the amount of memory used for running apps
But I am confused regarding 512MB ROM....what is this and what it is used for in user's context?
Think of it as internal memory-> For the ROM/FW and apps on phone (installation space)
So, I understood 256 MB RAM which is the amount of memory used for running apps
512 MB ROM is the memory used for installing apps and firmware (in other words: operating system)...correct?
Thanks for the confirmation..
How does moving apps between "internal app storage" and "sd card" work o 4.4.2?
Hi!
I have a rooted A3500F and cannot figure out which partitions and directories are involved in the aforementioned operation. What the system is showing is very confusing, e.g. with Google Earth:
1) installed in "internal app":
settings: storage available = 2.55 GB, apps (data & media )= 8.31 GB, system = 2.92 GB
app info: total = 206 MB, app =~ 26 MB, data = 180 MB
2) installed in "sd card":
settings: storage available = 2.59 GB, apps (data & media )= 8.32 GB, system = 2.92 GB
app info: total = 223 MB, app =~ 43 MB, data = 180 MB
So system and "app data " do not change. But the rest in the "app info" does not add up!
First it total + app = 232 MB whereas on sd it amounts to 266. Where the extra 34 MB comes from? Thin air?
This is very confusing and the system developers did really poor job in breaking down these amounts for users...
I was able to figure out that sdcard = /data/media/0 = /storage/emulated/0 = /mnt/sdcard and possibly "internal app" is somewhere on /data/media/? /data/app? /data/cache? /data/system?
I wonder what kind of hard limit this "moving" operation is overcoming if everything seems to occur on the "/data" partition and the "/system" does not change? Why is it available in the "app" setting? I use AIO tool to make such move in batch but I'm not sure of the benefits?
Also the "Apps" setting shows 2.9 GB free for the "Downloaded" section and 2.6 GB free for the "SD card" - where do these numbers come from? (it shows in both cases 10GB used and I know that /system takes up 3GB)
It's also weird on my Xperia C1505, e.g. app info storage about AOI Toolbox shows: total 4.4 MB, app on phone 6.17 MB and data on phone 4.4 MB. How could it be that "total" <> "app + data" ?! What then the "total" means?
Apps:
Downloaded / "Phone memory": 643 MB used 96 MB free (total of 740 results from what?)
Internal storage: 592 MB used 1.4 GB free
Running / RAM: 363 MB used 46 MB free (where did 100 MB of RAM go?)
All / "Phone memory": 643 MB used 96 MB free
How are these numbers related to the specs: 0.5 GB RAM, 4 GB internal ?
This is very confusing!
Is this all somehow related to the cache for running apps?
I tried searching for answers on various forums but did not find a good explanation, where it would be simply, unquestionably stated between exactly which directories or partitions this "move" is done.
I would greatly appreciate your help with this problem.
Cheers!
I have bought Lenovo k4 note n have recently upgraded to marshmallow. So I ve 16 GB of internal memory out of which the Android 6.0 inbuilt memory app inside storage and USB setting, says 5.37 GB is OS occupied. 9.46 GB out of 10.63 GB is used. Further break down are as follows:
Apps 5.29 GB
Images 105 MB
Videos 8 KB
Audio 588 KB
Other 488 MB
Cached Data 183 MB
Which totals to 6.066 GB. So now subtracting 9.46 with 6.066 GB I get 3.394 GB which I can't understand where it went.
Still after going inside file manager n clicking the view hidden files these are what I get:
Android 2.17 GB
Download 278.01 MB
Shareit 200 MB
WhatsApp 136 MB
Pictures 74 MB
Books 52 MB
DCIM 29 MB
Which comes to around 3 something GB and still 3 GB are missing.. so.. around 6 GB of files are not showing.. I am unable to find the files that are taking up space. Can anyone help please.
Now I have rooted my device with Twrp n SuperSU and and now I still have the same problem of large data files. Is it normal or can I get more space. The user data which I wasn't able to see is accessible now. Can I delete those data to free up space. And how do I get to look files taking up space which actually adds up to the space I have. The first pic I uploaded provides information of my phone's storage handled my marshmallow s219. You can see that 5.24 GB is OS occupied compared to unrooted 5.37 GB. The second image points to the fact that only around 3.2 GB of space is shown out of supposed 6.25 GB. The third image tells the accessible part of my phone data which is very low (around 700 MB). And the third is the inaccessible files which I have come to see through the blessing of rooting the phone. So I think my phone shouldn't use up that much data as I don't be very large app. Largest is Facebook. Can someone help me to optimise my phone. Thanking you guys in advance.?