I have a T-mobile uk Arc that has been network unlocked using Octopus SE.
Unfortunately when I go into the service menu it still says "Bootloader unlock allowed - no".
I though that unlocking it from the network might have changed this.
Is there anyway to unlock the bootloader and/or root the device if the bootloader unlock says no? i tried re-flashing using the namaste guide, but it didn't work.
I really don't understand why this is the case though. What is the determining factor for the bootloader status?
(sorry i know there's a few questions here but i'm so frustrated from having no look in researching this)
Thanks for any help you can offer!
In the service menu if your Bootloader Unlock says no then you cannot UNLOCK it.
The only way is VIA TEST POINT method (which carries RISK of bricking your device) can be done to have unlocked.
You can still HOWEVER root your phone. Cheers mate.
First of all thank you for the quick response.
I unlocked my phone from its network using the testpoint method (using Octopus Box). Is this the same as what you are referring to or is it a method of re-flashing that uses the testpoint?
Thanks!
If you done it correctly "TEST POINT" method your Bootloader should be unlocked.
fluxgfx said:
If you done it correctly "TEST POINT" method your Bootloader should be unlocked.
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Hold the menu button, plug in your phone.
If the LED turns blue (fastboot mode), your bootloader is unlocked.
Pumphandle said:
I have a T-mobile uk Arc that has been network unlocked using Octopus SE.
Unfortunately when I go into the service menu it still says "Bootloader unlock allowed - no".
I though that unlocking it from the network might have changed this.
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You now have a unlocked phone, not a SIM-FREE phone. Only a SIM-FREE phone that was never sold via a network will come with a unlockable bootloader.
It's why these sell for a bit more (£30ish).
CrazyPeter said:
You now have a unlocked phone, not a SIM-FREE phone. Only a SIM-FREE phone that was never sold via a network will come with a unlockable bootloader.
It's why these sell for a bit more (£30ish).
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... he's already said he unlocked it from the network. Therefore, he does have a SIM/network free/unlocked phone.
However, SIM/network unlock is completely separate from the bootloader.
If the Service Menu says bootloader unlock is not allowed, you need a paid tool like SE Tool to unlock it.
Perhaps it's a regional terminology thing.
In the UK, unlocked means it was once locked to a network (but usually still with network branding)
Sim-free, means it's totally unbranded, not sold with a contract and not sold by a phone network. ie. totally independant of any phone network.
Only Sim-free is unlocked bootloader.
CrazyPeter said:
Perhaps it's a regional terminology thing.
In the UK, unlocked means it was once locked to a network (but usually still with network branding)
Sim-free, means it's totally unbranded, not sold with a contract and not sold by a phone network. ie. totally independant of any phone network.
Only Sim-free is unlocked bootloader.
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I agree with you, I don't think they really understood exactly what you meant.
I remember Rikard from the SE Blog when they announced about bootloader unlocking on the new xperia phones. He also said that phones with generic firmware will be allowed to unlock bootloader.
So just because, you have unlocked a phone from t mobile it isn't a Sim free phone.
Sent from my LT18i using xda premium
I have to be thankful that my actual carrier doesn't do sim-lock.
First of all, thank you for your contributions.
So to re-cap, it is a T-mobile branded arc, that is now network free, but not sim free.
Is it possible to flash the phone to make it sim free? Would would using SETools acheive this?
Pumphandle said:
First of all, thank you for your contributions.
So to re-cap, it is a T-mobile branded arc, that is now network free, but not sim free.
Is it possible to flash the phone to make it sim free? Would would using SETools acheive this?
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Ugh. SIM and network are the SAME thing: locked to a specific carrier / cannot use a different carrier's SIM card.
The bootloader is different. Generic (unbranded) phones have unlockABLE bootloaders through a FREE process. Carrier-branded phones ALSO have unlockABLE bootloaders but the process is NOT free.
Any bootloader can be unlocked, regardless of SIM/network status. I suggest you watch the video and pay attention to the FAQ.
There is no firmware or software that you can flash onto a phone to SIM/network unlock it. Buy an unlock code or tool credit (Omnius, SE Tool, etc.).
There is also no firmware or software that you can flash onto a phone to unlock a bootloader. Either use http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com or pay to get it unlocked.
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Ugh. SIM and network are the SAME thing: locked to a specific carrier / cannot use a different carrier's SIM card.
The bootloader is different. Generic (unbranded) phones have unlockABLE bootloaders through a FREE process. Carrier-branded phones ALSO have unlockABLE bootloaders but the process is NOT free.
Any bootloader can be unlocked, regardless of SIM/network status. I suggest you watch the video and pay attention to the FAQ.
There is no firmware or software that you can flash onto a phone to SIM/network unlock it. Buy an unlock code or tool credit (Omnius, SE Tool, etc.).
There is also no firmware or software that you can flash onto a phone to unlock a bootloader. Either use xxxxxxxx or pay to get it unlocked.
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Thanks for the answer but CrazyPeter is right. There's a regional terminology issue here that is not not translating.
That being said it does look like SETool is the way forward. I should've checked exactly what result unlocking with Octopus box would have.
Contact Jinx13 who will be able to unlock and open bootloader
I had sim locked three phone he did mine Sunday and it is easy and quick
Thanks cheify009. Heard his name being mentioned a few times now.
If u don't mind me asking, was it expensive?
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Thanks cheify009. Heard his name being mentioned a few times now.
If u don't mind me asking, was it expensive?
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£15.00 done mine as well as my arc was on tmobile,now it is sim free and bootloader is unlocked.
Although you can still update via PC but not ota as it will brick the phone.
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dude?
BluechipJ said:
... he's already said he unlocked it from the network. Therefore, he does have a SIM/network free/unlocked phone.
However, SIM/network unlock is completely separate from the bootloader.
If the Service Menu says bootloader unlock is not allowed, you need a paid tool like SE Tool to unlock it.
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Good morning to all! I have a big question! I have a Sony Ericsson Experia ARC vodafone brand new and comes with android 2.3.4 compilation: 4.0.2.A.0.62, and when connect it via the PC COMPANION tells me there's a new update 4.1.A.0.562, should I update it?
I've seen in many forums that updating the phone slow down the performance and assure me I'll regret of that. the other thing I was thinking is to make a backup of my original rom, but there is some way to make a backup of the original rom if something goes wrong? with the update? thanks
I have read that all Note 3 have locked boot loader. If I purchased an unlocked Note 3 from i.e. Negri Electronics, would these come with an unlocked boot loader?
Are there any reseller that sells a Note 3 that is has both sim and boot loader unlocked?
Samsung does not sell locked bootloader like HTC
sim locked is something else, and yes u can buy ig sim free (unlocked) or just buy the unlock code
Only Verizon and ATT have locked bootloader I think, as post above states, all are unlocked by default.
AT&T's Note 3 bootloader is locked, Verizon's is too, but Verizon does offer developer edition, which has unlocked bootloader. T-Mobile's Note 3 bootloader is not locked. I'm not sure about Sprint, but you dont want to be Sprint customer anyway.
Disregard posts from people, who don't understand the difference between locked bootloader and network carrier lock and make posts about unlocking and unlock codes.
First off, sorry for the confusing thread title.
I'm currently running an AT&T Note 3 which has a locked bootloader and I've wanted to run CyanogenMod for a while now. I've ordered a second hand T-Mobile Galaxy S5 because I've heard the bootloader is unlocked and/or unlockable.
Can anyone here clarify how the sim lock/carrier lock works?
Will this require me to purchase an unlock code or will flashing the bootloader and custom firmware automatically unlock the sim? From my research I've read that I still need to unlock the sim, but I've also read that using a different bootloader can unlock it. Kind of confusing.
Does anyone know if the bootloader on the EE S8 is unlocked or not? Thanks
Bump, I'd like to know the answer to this before buying the handset from EE, can anybody quickly check please?
Ee
Is locked mate,but can be unlocked for £8.99
Bootloader on exynos versions isn't locked as far as I am aware? You can flash other firmware if you like. Its the snapdragon versions that are locked.
The guy above is clearly on about is the phone SIM locked or not.
I have the p10 lite and i was wondering if i could unlock the bootloader of the device, its locked on tesco mobile so i was wondering if its even possible to unlock the bootloader of a carrier locked device. I have managed to get and unlock code from Huawei myself now i was just wondering if unlocking the bootloader would cause any problems within the device. I was going to unlock the bootloader to root my phone and even install a custom rom but is this allowed when you're on a carrier locked device?
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I have the p10 lite and i was wondering if i could unlock the bootloader of the device, its locked on tesco mobile so i was wondering if its even possible to unlock the bootloader of a carrier locked device. I have managed to get and unlock code from Huawei myself now i was just wondering if unlocking the bootloader would cause any problems within the device. I was going to unlock the bootloader to root my phone and even install a custom rom but is this allowed when you're on a carrier locked device?
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My p10 lite was from tesco and I have made it dual sim and am now typing this from oreo so yes you can