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Epic was sitting on water on my nightstand - now won't boot

Okay so my cpap machine leaked last night and my Epic was sitting in a small amount of water. I removed the battery cover and dried the tiny bit of water from in there. It worked until I got to work and plugged it in to my PC. It wouldn't mount USB, I rebooted, and it hasn't come up since. I have pulled it apart, letting it dry. See attached pic. Any suggestions? Or am I needing to buy a phone?

Probably done for.
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Let it sit in a bowl of rice for a few hours.
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Let it sit in a bowl of rice for a few hours.
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Agreed. Rice or another desiccant will help pull any residual moisture from the phone.

Muckrak3r said:
Okay so my cpap machine leaked last night and my Epic was sitting in a small amount of water. I removed the battery cover and dried the tiny bit of water from in there. It worked until I got to work and plugged it in to my PC. It wouldn't mount USB, I rebooted, and it hasn't come up since. I have pulled it apart, letting it dry. See attached pic. Any suggestions? Or am I needing to buy a phone?
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This is why I keep my cpap in a drawer on my end table, and my phone on top.
Did you knock into it or something?

algorhythm said:
This is why I keep my cpap in a drawer on my end table, and my phone on top.
Did you knock into it or something?
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Didn't bump it or anything. Only possible thing is maybe my wife over-filled the reservoir or something.
I got it booting up with the case all apart and only the connections made, but as soon as I pieced it all back together it went back to not booting up. Getting quite annoying.

Muckrak3r said:
Didn't bump it or anything. Only possible thing is maybe my wife over-filled the reservoir or something.
I got it booting up with the case all apart and only the connections made, but as soon as I pieced it all back together it went back to not booting up. Getting quite annoying.
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Something may be shorting it.
Do you use tap water or the recommended distilled water?

algorhythm said:
Something may be shorting it.
Do you use tap water or the recommended distilled water?
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Distilled water. Keep a gallon of it on hand at all times.
I tweaked with it a bit more and finally got it to boot with it all put back together. It is either the usb port itself causing a short, or one of the 3 battery connectors that the battery touches when inserted.
I may have tweaked one of them while drying it out with the battery pulled. One of the 3 prongs, the one closest to the center of the phone, is bent differently than the other 2. The odd prong doesn't go all the way to the bottom of it's track the way the other 2 do. Not sure if it's designed that way or if I bent it on accident.
I copied the SD card contents to my PC and will see how things go today. Will probably need to get a replacement board.

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I may have tweaked one of them while drying it out with the battery pulled. One of the 3 prongs, the one closest to the center of the phone, is bent differently than the other 2. The odd prong doesn't go all the way to the bottom of it's track the way the other 2 do. Not sure if it's designed that way or if I bent it on accident.
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I just checked mine, all 3 look exactly the same.

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I just checked mine, all 3 look exactly the same.
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Thanks, I will try and bend out the 3rd one. However, it's likely an issue with the usb port. With the phone booted up and on battery power, no usb cable connected, it keeps toggling constantly between usb connected and not up in the notification bar. I will try and put something against the usb enclosure before closing up the case this time and see if I can get it to stabilize.

Muckrak3r said:
Thanks, I will try and bend out the 3rd one. However, it's likely an issue with the usb port. With the phone booted up and on battery power, no usb cable connected, it keeps toggling constantly between usb connected and not up in the notification bar. I will try and put something against the usb enclosure before closing up the case this time and see if I can get it to stabilize.
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Definitely sounds like a short on the board, possibly inside the USB port itself (remember, there are data and power lines inside the port).
Good luck, you may want to look in to an end table with drawers next time I got one from Ikea for like 30$ that I store my cpap in.

What the **** is cpap?
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garyf said:
What the **** is cpap?
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Continuous positive airway pressure, for sleep apnea
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The phone seems to be staying "normal" now - It continuously thinks usb is plugged in when it isn't. To get it to mount my PC I have to plug in the usb with the phone off, wait until the battery meter screen comes on, and then boot the phone. And then it mounts usb. Not a huge deal.
I'm loving ACS ICSv4 OC'd to 1.2 with EI22. It's so fast and smooth and responsive. I finally got a perfect ROM setup and the phone got wet lol ! For now I'm good.
Just for good measure I will probably stick it in rice overnight, but I doubt it will help as the damage to the usb port is probably permanent.

johnbarry3434 said:
Continuous positive airway pressure, for sleep apnea
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Ahhh...those darth vader looking masks that I have seen people wearing at night. I hear they help out a ton!

digiblur said:
Ahhh...those darth vader looking masks that I have seen people wearing at night. I hear they help out a ton!
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Yeah, they do.

digiblur said:
Ahhh...those darth vader looking masks that I have seen people wearing at night. I hear they help out a ton!
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Peeking into peoples' bedroom windows at night? lol
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digiblur said:
Ahhh...those darth vader looking masks that I have seen people wearing at night. I hear they help out a ton!
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Basically anybody that snores isn't getting good sleep and could benefit from cpap. When you snore you don't get enough REM sleep, and you don't get enough oxygen to your brain. Over time it turns into all kinds of major health issues. I'm in my low 30' s and benefit greatly from cpap!

I gave terrible sinus issues. Going to look into this. Thanks for the info
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JohnCorleone said:
I gave terrible sinus issues. Going to look into this. Thanks for the info
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Doesn't mean you need one.
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Muckrak3r said:
Basically anybody that snores isn't getting good sleep and could benefit from cpap. When you snore you don't get enough REM sleep, and you don't get enough oxygen to your brain. Over time it turns into all kinds of major health issues. I'm in my low 30' s and benefit greatly from cpap!
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No, not exactly.. basically, your airway closes mid-sleep and you subconciously wake up. Yes, your o2sat goes down, but that's not the only thing. you are constantly waking up many times per hour. Leads to many health issues.. strokes, heart attacks, falling asleep while driving, etc.
Sometimes it's weight-based, but sometimes it is genetic. In my case, half my family has it, and we are not overweight.
I've been on it for around 5 years and I couldn't imagine not being on it.

Screen responding without touching it

Does anyone else have their screen respond without touching it?
I've noticed this in go sms. On the conversation list, the last one on the screen is sometimes pressed without me touching it. I will press back and it just goes back into it.
I recently noticed in web browsing too where the screen would refresh on its own. I clued in that the refresh button is on the bottom of the screen.
Seems like the bottom maybe 2 cm of the screen sometimes responds on its own.
Is there any app that I can see where the screen is being pressed?

Settings, Developer options, Show Touches
That will visually show you where any screen touches are occurring. The screen is a bit sensitive for me sometimes, but I haven't seen anything crazy yet.
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Cicatrize said:
Settings, Developer options, Show Touches
That will visually show you where any screen touches are occurring. The screen is a bit sensitive for me sometimes, but I haven't seen anything crazy yet.
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I wish you could extend the amount of times those dots stay on the screen for.

Yeah it's unfortunately a little basic. Maybe something on the play store that could do the same thing but also have some customization?
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I have enabled it in the mean time anyway.
Is anyone else experiencing this?

Same here. Sometimes it happens to me. I would say one of 50 touches it'll react even without me pressing finger on a scren.

I definitely know what you're referring to, and it does seem to happen only on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes I'll trigger the screen if my finger is close but not touching it.
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artisticcheese said:
Same here. Sometimes it happens to me. I would say one of 50 touches it'll react even without me pressing finger on a scren.
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Where is the press on your screen? Also the bottom?
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I definitely know what you're referring to, and it does seem to happen only on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes I'll trigger the screen if my finger is close but not touching it.
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The thing that bothered me today is that i was trying to press a button in the top left corner and the bottom link kept being pressed so I have to hit back and I was trying to beat the bottom press but I couldnt lol
I dont think there was any moisture on that part of the screen either

Yep, but not on this phone yet...
I say not yet because it's happened to me on almost every one of my touch screen phones. It seems to happen to me when the air is dry and I bet it has to do with there being more static electricity around. On those days when you're shocking everything you touch, those are the days when my phones seem to act up. It happened on my G1, my vibrant, Droid1, Droidx, and two of my bionics. All of the problems went away although on my 1st bionic it was really bad and almost completely unusable. The next day it was back to normal. Maybe it's just gremlins.

answer:
it happens if/when you use a DIFFERENT charger for the phone. you should be using the charger that comes with the phone. If you use a different charger (from a G1 or from a razr or something), then the screen tends to mess up, even when off the charger.

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it happens if/when you use a DIFFERENT charger for the phone. you should be using the charger that comes with the phone. If you use a different charger (from a G1 or from a razr or something), then the screen tends to mess up, even when off the charger.
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Please explain what this has to do with the charger

So just had this happed today with the "show touches" on and I did not see any touches.
I am wondering if this is a manufacturer defect now

Mine does that also, specially when I'm in the car sometimes it just randomly unlocks and I go wtf!
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browniegirl said:
Mine does that also, specially when I'm in the car sometimes it just randomly unlocks and I go wtf!
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Is yours also happening towards the bottom of the screen?

For those of you with this problem, try pulling the battery out for a minute or two and also try touching something metal if you can. You know to discharge any static built up. (Worth a shot right) When I had this problem on my Sensation everyone was reporting that it was the charger they were using. I don't know if that was correct because the problem went away even though I was still using two different chargers. One charger was for the GNEX (same as GS3) and the other was the HTC charger. I really think it has to do with static electricity build up. If you think about the way these digitizers work it really makes sense. It seems to happen to me during spring time when it's dry and windy.

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For those of you with this problem, try pulling the battery out for a minute or two and also try touching something metal if you can. You know to discharge any static built up. (Worth a shot right) When I had this problem on my Sensation everyone was reporting that it was the charger they were using. I don't know if that was correct because the problem went away even though I was still using two different chargers. One charger was for the GNEX (same as GS3) and the other was the HTC charger. I really think it has to do with static electricity build up. If you think about the way these digitizers work it really makes sense. It seems to happen to me during spring time when it's dry and windy.
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That is a good theory, but why would the static shock only be hitting the bottom part of the screen?

i don't know why. but i'm sure it's the charger. this happened back in the G1 days when android first came out. i did so many "experiments" with different chargers to figure out what was causing the screen to be all glitched like this. found out it was the charger. same thing happened with my vibrant, and same thing happened with my sisters sgs2.

Multiple bumps on chrome bezel and loose rubber edge

Hi
I was just wondering if I was the only one with several fairly noticeable bumps on the chrome bezel.
Also, I think my rubber edging is loose as it can easily be made to click loudly if pressed gently anywhere near the bottom. Also, when a cable is plugged into the port it moves a fair bit and the slowest and gentlest movement upward creates a loud click. I think it is the metal on the male part touching the female part but it sounds louder than it should be, sort of like static.
So, should I be worried enough to contact Google?
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ORStoner said:
Hi
I was just wondering if I was the only one with several fairly noticeable bumps on the chrome bezel.
Also, I think my rubber edging is loose as it can easily be made to click loudly if pressed gently anywhere near the bottom. Also, when a cable is plugged into the port it moves a fair bit and the slowest and gentlest movement upward creates a loud click. I think it is the metal on the male part touching the female part but it sounds louder than it should be, sort of like static.
So, should I be worried enough to contact Google?
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I have a few of those little bumps on my chrome bezel as well. My first N4 (now on my replacement due to signal issues) didn't have them. At first they bothered me, but the rest of my phone works fine so I'm happy. I don't want to replace it and get a phone with a problem that I can't live with.
As for the creaking/click sound. My first phone did it and my second one does it as well, though not as bad. I think on my first one I actually made it worse because when I realized it made that click sound. I would often recreate it by pressing on that same spot. Not sure why. Maybe I hoped it would fix itself and suddenly go away. I'm sure you could replace it, but you may get another phone with a worse defect. If the only thing wrong with your N4 is that click sound, I'd just enjoy the device as is. If at some point in the future something more severe takes place, then I'd look in to getting a replacement. Over all the years of using cell phone. I realized there's no perfect device and I'm OK with that.

That sounds exactly like my phone and what I do yo recreate the sound. I try not to so it but I do sometimes hoping it has gone since last time. Maybe I should send Google an email letting them know and if it gets worse they can't blame me.
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ORStoner said:
That sounds exactly like my phone and what I do yo recreate the sound. I try not to so it but I do sometimes hoping it has gone since last time. Maybe I should send Google an email letting them know and if it gets worse they can't blame me.
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I suppose you could try that. It couldn't hurt to call them and relay your experience.

The USB port clicking when plugged in, is caused by the port not correctly installed into the phones housing. I had the same issue and to fix it I opened and disassembled the phone and moved the port lower into the opening so the port stays in place. The noise is caused by the port clipping the edge of the opening in the housing.
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PDP///M said:
The USB port clicking when plugged in, is caused by the port not correctly installed into the phones housing. I had the same issue and to fix it I opened and disassembled the phone and moved the port lower into the opening so the port stays in place. The noise is caused by the port clipping the edge of the opening in the housing.
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Thanks it helps to know what is causing the problem but to be honest I'd rather see if it gets worse and if it does get Google to sort it out than inevitably break it if I try and take it into my own hands. It doesn't inflict functionality at the moment and I'm going to start using wireless charging soon.
I'm glad you managed to sort yours out though!
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I have like two bumps on my top left corner. Do you have lines running down all corners? Is that possibly from molding?
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Hey guys, I've been searching for this problem.
I also got a bump on the top left of my phone, just right of the headphone jack. Tried to "push" it back with force, but it would not give.
Also, I got the clicky bottom, which is weird.
So, anyone knows how to fix these bumps?

Qi charger for $35 - too good to be true?

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1197502
Includes FREE worldwide shipping. Is this too good to be true? I'm keen to give it a shot, but can't seem to find a brand-name or anything. According to the seller its compatible with our phones, but I'm always sceptical of no-name-brand Chinese things, especially if it could damage my precious.

Don't think its branded at all. Their return policy seems pretty good. Seems as though you would only have to pay for shipping if it's not an error on their part. I assume DOA's and the thing breaking down within the warranty period would constitute as free return paid by them. Post a review if u decide to try it.

I received mine today but for some reason I only seem to get 94% charged and won't go above it... I'm still trying to find if anyone else is having this same issue but nothing at present...

Some of us on xda ordered some it's some post down from this one they said they got and it works I'll get mines tomorrow. I ordered it on the 7 of January
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Unlike the other one, this one (for $35) seems to be one of the WPC certified chargers, although I am not sure if it means much.
Link to WPC site: http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products/details/125/qi-wireless-charging-pad
Link to manufacturer site: http://www.uway-qi.com/Productsshow.asp?ID=32

mband said:
I received mine today but for some reason I only seem to get 94% charged and won't go above it... I'm still trying to find if anyone else is having this same issue but nothing at present...
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Is the blue light overly bright and annoying? Are there beeping sounds? Is it easy to get it to charge, or does it only charge when placed in a certain way?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, I'm thinking of getting one of this if it works.

Placed my order. Figured its worth the risk at that price.
Unfortunately I'm in South Africa so I don't expect it to arrive in less that 2 weeks.
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innumerabilis said:
Is the blue light overly bright and annoying?
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The green light has been annoying me more to say it has power, the blue one is covered by the phone when it's charging.
Are there beeping sounds?
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There is a beep to alert you when the phone is placed on it and to advise of charging.
Is it easy to get it to charge, or does it only charge when placed in a certain way?
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The phone needs to be placed upside down, in the case of the N4 the bottom of the phone is towards the power plug end of the Qi.
I'm thinking of getting one of this if it works.
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I've been looking around for something else. Seems to be once above 94% it won't charge anymore. Charging via USB works fine to 100%.
Sorry for the barrage of questions,
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No problem

What about the charging range? Is it any good?
Because on other Qi chargers, a lot of people complained that they lose connection when knocked a centimetre off centre.

gqukyo said:
Don't think its branded at all. Their return policy seems pretty good. Seems as though you would only have to pay for shipping if it's not an error on their part. I assume DOA's and the thing breaking down within the warranty period would constitute as free return paid by them. Post a review if u decide to try it.
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I ordered one, for 27€ it's worth a try. Will probably open it up and dim the leds a bit.

There we go I like this price I think i can chance I can gamble for that type of money.
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wywywywy said:
What about the charging range? Is it any good?
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You can move it around a bit but not too much, it'll work sideways, longways, etc. and I've also got a case on without an issue.

Maybe once you remove your case, it will charge over 94%.
I am just kidding.
Considering ordering one.
Thanks.
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You can move it around a bit but not too much, it'll work sideways, longways, etc. and I've also got a case on without an issue.
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Has anyone looked at the one labeled just "Qi Wireless Charger"?
It's white, and I don't like that, but it's completely flat, so it'd probably fit the phone better...?
Better as in, if you have to turn it around, then it'd be better, since with the large one, the casing seems to be raised at the top, whereas the standard one is completely flat, so flipping it around wouldn't really be that big of a deal.

random1204 said:
Has anyone looked at the one labeled just "Qi Wireless Charger"?
It's white, and I don't like that, but it's completely flat, so it'd probably fit the phone better...?
Better as in, if you have to turn it around, then it'd be better, since with the large one, the casing seems to be raised at the top, whereas the standard one is completely flat, so flipping it around wouldn't really be that big of a deal.
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seems good, the title says it all
US plug / works with all Qi capable devices inc. Nexus 4 & Nokia 920T/820T
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More info in this thread already started about the fasttech Qi chargers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36093590
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dk20005 said:
More info in this thread already started about the fasttech Qi chargers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36093590
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This is not the same charger as the one being discussed in that other thread.
To repeat the OP, this is the charger discussed here:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1197502
Mine arrived today. My early thoughts:
1.) It feels pretty cheaply made, but its a simple device and I can't really fault anything about it as far as build quality goes.
2.) The Nexus 4 has to be placed upside down for charging to take place. Bit of a shame, but no reason why you can't just use the pad itself upside down instead.
3.) Unlike the comments from another poster here, I was relieved to see my phone charge to 100% without any problems.
4.) The flashing blue LED is annoying and doesn't seem to do anything other than flash continually whether it is charging or not. I'll probably open it up and kill it, and/or simply tape over it with black tape.
All in all, pretty happy for the price paid, and glad to be able to reduce the wear and tear on the microUSB port.

StNickZA said:
This is not the same charger as the one being discussed in that other thread.
To repeat the OP, this is the charger discussed here:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1197502
Mine arrived today. My early thoughts:
1.) It feels pretty cheaply made, but its a simple device and I can't really fault anything about it as far as build quality goes.
2.) The Nexus 4 has to be placed upside down for charging to take place. Bit of a shame, but no reason why you can't just use the pad itself upside down instead.
3.) Unlike the comments from another poster here, I was relieved to see my phone charge to 100% without any problems.
4.) The flashing blue LED is annoying and doesn't seem to do anything other than flash continually whether it is charging or not. I'll probably open it up and kill it, and/or simply tape over it with black tape.
All in all, pretty happy for the price paid, and glad to be able to reduce the wear and tear on the microUSB port.
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Why does it have to be upside down?

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Why does it have to be upside down?
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Sorry, when I say "upside down", I don't mean face-down. Rather, the charging port needs to be at the top. Obviously that's where the sensor / coil lines up best with the phone; can't think of any other reason.

FYI, use the code "LAUNCH" for 5% off. Credit goes to samlikely in another thread for this.
With this coupon, this charger comes to $33.13 shipped!

Tight micro USB port?

Does anyone else have a hard time plugging in their phone? With my gnex I could easily plug in my phone and be done. However, with my g2, I have to sit their for a little bit and wiggle it around just to plug it into the phone. I was gonna stop by Verizon after work and look at their floor model but wanted yalls opinion before I did that and looked at getting a new one.
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It is tighter than my GNex but mine is not too tight. I like it tight. :highfive:

Yes, it's definitely more difficult than any other phone I've had.

It might just be good
It may be more stable if it's tighter and will be less prone to accidental disconnection? It might degrade faster though.

It is def tighter and goes "deeper" and kinda clicks and locks in. its also not straight in, kinda have to angle it down a little. Cant compare it to the GNex bc that was a crappy usb connection that would fall out easily. This is MUCH better

I think its the Charger that comes with the phone!
Its tight on my G Pro as well. But when I use say a samsung charger its extreamly loose on this phone.

hyelton said:
I think its the Charger that comes with the phone!
Its tight on my G Pro as well. But when I use say a samsung charger its extreamly loose on this phone.
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Mhmm, all the cables I have laying around I have a hard time plugging in directly. Having to angle it a bit just to plug it in.
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MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Mhmm, all the cables I have laying around I have a hard time plugging in directly. Having to angle it a bit just to plug it in.
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Could be the one im using then :/
I do know using any other cable even with the stock wall plug it charges slower.

It was very tight when I first plugged it in, I thought I had it upside down but either way was difficult. A few days later it's getting easier, so just give it some time and it will be fine.

Having the same issue here. Brought the phone home Saturday evening and thought I was going to break it. Went back to the store yesterday and they tried one in the back that was the same. As everyone else is saying, hopefully it gets a little easier over time. Hate the feeling that it's going to break jamming it in right now.

Squez said:
Having the same issue here. Brought the phone home Saturday evening and thought I was going to break it. Went back to the store yesterday and they tried one in the back that was the same. As everyone else is saying, hopefully it gets a little easier over time. Hate the feeling that it's going to break jamming it in right now.
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Good to hear I am not the only one that feels this way, lol.
I will give it a few more days and go from there.