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[Q] Screen NOT RESPONDING

Hello everyone,
My hd2 was running fine for the past (when did it come out?) and all of a sudden after putting it into sleep mode (clicking the red button) the screen became unresponsive after turning it on again.
Before, the screen would only be unresponsive only after putting the phone in sleep mode, but now the screen is not responding wherever I am in the phone.
I did task 29 5 times with different roms/radios and no such luck.
I've read in other posts that it's a hardware AND a software problem, and there certainly ISN'T any solutions to the problem.
My question is that has anyone had an partial victories over this problem?
I'm currently in the middle east working and I'll be returning to Texas in a month.
I have a backup phone, the n97... what a wreck, I really hate that phone. If I see another "memory is full" warning, I'll blow my head off.
I guess karma is a *****, last month I was complaining hard about the HD2 (made a huge post... actually) and now it struck out on me, on the worst time.
A tip to anyone who's having a similar problem, use "MyMobiler" to control your phone via your computer, it saved me from losing my new contacts
Also, for the people who replaced their phones, do I need to call ahead of time to get a replacement or would I be able to simply walk into a T-mobile store and get a replacement? (I currently have an ongoing account with them)
Fun Fact: they sell the unbranded HD2 here for 1000 USD

mine started getting the "s.o.d." and requires a battery pull...never happened before and i'm on stock..a hard reset or replacement is in my future!

The battery pull used to worked, but not anymore. I feel that the body glove case might actually have something to do with this, since whenever there is a force pushed on the phone, that force will end up all around the screen and under the buttons.
I'm planning on selling the phone, so I guess it's a good thing. I'll get a brand new one.

Metallic-Force said:
I'm planning on selling the phone, so I guess it's a good thing. I'll get a brand new one.
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You're planning on selling a touch phone, on which the touch screen doesn't work? Will you tell that to the buyer?
You should be able to exchange it for a new one under warranty.

anyone find a solution to this? I have now bought 2 hd2's that have done the exact same thing, I am on att network so I obviolsuy have no warranty, but this is rediculous, i love the phone when it works, just cant keep buying new phones that fail after 2 months, i now have 2 to send for repair to htc

cjindustry said:
anyone find a solution to this? I have now bought 2 hd2's that have done the exact same thing, I am on att network so I obviolsuy have no warranty, but this is rediculous, i love the phone when it works, just cant keep buying new phones that fail after 2 months, i now have 2 to send for repair to htc
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what makes you think its not under warranty? its not illegal to unlock and use on another network. if tmous refuse to fix it,(though by rights they should, if you hav e proof of purchase), its still got its manufacturers warranty, it is after all less than a year old. contact htc, the most that should cost is the cost of returning it to them.

Dead/Black Stuck Pixel

Hello,
I recently bought a Desire HD, because my Hero's screen got unresponsive, because of a hardware fault of the screen.
I had a real nightmare with my Hero with the repair center. I had to send it 3 times to them in order to actually accept the problems and to partly fix it. About 2 months after I got it back from this almost 2 months horror the screen became unresponsive and I had to ditch my beloved Hero.
I decided to give HTC one more chance and bought a Desire HD and I was really happy with the device until yesterday when I found out that I have a dead/black pixel on the upper left side (left side of the HTC weather and time widget).
I already tried JScreenFix and another app from the market to fix it and had my phone running on it for more than an hour. But unfortunately this didn't fix anything.
I really like this phone and I decided not to get a Samsung Nexus S. But now I have to say that I am more than disappointed that I didn't.
I called my dealer and he said that he can only exchange the device within 7 days of purchase and that I have to send it to the repair center. I'm so frustrated right now that I am really playing with the idea of selling my Desire HD and get any other phone except an HTC.
If someone can help me, I would be more than happy, because I don't know what I can do anymore.
Thank you in advance!
Cheers!

Best way to remove dead pixels (this might be difficult due to the uni body design) is to take apart the phone leaving the SLCD bare and lightly (I normally use a cotton bud to avoid finger prints and avoid excess pressure) massage the effected area.
Attempt this when powered off first, if that unsuccessful do so when powered on (Boot cycle if necessary).
-Source:
Works in the laptop repair industry.
wikihow.com/Fix-a-Stuck-Pixel-on-an-LCD-Monitor

Most phones have a zero dead pixel warranty just check htcs policy on dead pixels then rma it you should receive a new unit
Alternatively if HTC do have a zero dead pixel policy then kick up a stink to the store manager that according to HTC the manufacturer its faulty and unfit for sale. Complain enough you will be surprised what happens
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Ok, thanks for the swift response.
If I take the phone apart I'll lose my warranty right?
I purchased the phone on 07.12.2010 and I never took any of those apart.
To be honest I'm a bit afraid I might screw up ending with a broken/inoperable device.
Do I also need any special tools to do that? And if yes how much do I have to pay for those?
I really don't want to sell my Desire HD so I am open for any suggestions.
Thanks.
P.S.: What do you think of those pixel repair programs on the market? Are they actually working at all?
Edit: Thanks for the hint, I'll check out their policy asap. I already called my dealer and wait for his call back. I will definitely "kick his ass" when he tries to bulls*it me. Thanks!

I have a dead/stick pixel too. I got it quite a while back and i even made a thread about it here. It was a real annoyance for me but now i just learned to live with it. Mine is right at the bottom center of the screen. I really don't have the patience to send it back to england for repair, and i don't have any confidence in taking it apart so i'll just have to live with it :/
I also tried that Jscreenfix app as well and it did nothing. I really doubt the success rate of those type of apps because my laptop has a dead/stuck pixel too and running a program like jscreenfix did nothing on my laptop either.

Yeah, I've read your topic and I tried to live with it too, but my device is like brand new and I paid a lot of money for it so I see no argument for accepting a faulty part tbh. I didn't buy it from a carrier it's unlocked and has no branding at all.
It's like my company/boss pays me for 1 day less a month just because his pc was broken on that day.
I also don't have any patience at all with the european service center anymore. The experience I made with my Hero was so horrible you can't imagine. I don't wish this even to my worst foe.
I also doubt the success of those apps, but I gave it a try so I can't say that I didn't try as much as possible.

i was just like you dude. bought it unlocked sim free no carrier, and only a few days after owning it the problem showed up. Its a real shame that LCD's suffer from this type of fault.

Yeah and I just called HTC to find out what their policy is, but the guy on the hotline told me that I got blablabla days where I can exchange it and after it I have to send it in for repair.
I'm so pissed now that I'm going to literally kill my dealer on the phone when he calls me back.

Glad I could help and thanks for the "Thank".
Unfortunately the Desire HD is a troublesome device to take apart and I wouldn't recommend doing so unless you have a through understanding of electronics and Uni-body casing, if you do plan on going ahead then your best bet would be to look at this:
http://www.htcphones.net/htc-evo-4g-teardown/
this is an similar phone to the Desire HD that uses a similar layout but different components, a full Desire HD tear down from a reputable website isn't available at this moment.
Depending on the warranty of your device then it may breach the warranty.
The best way to check if it breaches your warranty is to ask the manufacturer about the "conditions of the warranty" or not to break any Warranty Stickers.
As for returning the product, you probably have a better chance in saying the phone doesn't meet the aspect of quality you though it would, your more likely to get a return that way because the dealer isn't taking back a faulty product (Its unlikely they will check the product).

Sigh, I got 2 stuck pixels too... One is at the top left corner (red) and another in the middle region (blue)... Just bought for less than 7 days and they are already there... Stupid HTC policy of more than 3 closely pixel sh*t doesn't help at all... I had been using so many HTC phones and it seems that only DHD gave me stuck pixels... What is wrong with their QC? Damn it... Well, i gave up looking at it and learn to live with it... The only thing that is keeping me with HTC is due to Android + 4.3"... There isn't any other phones providing such luxury... its really pathetic...

LittleMerc said:
Sigh, I got 2 stuck pixels too... One is at the top left corner (red) and another in the middle region (blue)... Just bought for less than 7 days and they are already there... Stupid HTC policy of more than 3 closely pixel sh*t doesn't help at all... I had been using so many HTC phones and it seems that only DHD gave me stuck pixels... What is wrong with their QC? Damn it... Well, i gave up looking at it and learn to live with it... The only thing that is keeping me with HTC is due to Android + 4.3"... There isn't any other phones providing such luxury... its really pathetic...
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If you bought it over the phone or online and are in the UK then you can return it within 7 days for a refund if it is faulty or not. Distance selling rules cover this option.
As for stuck pixels my understanding is that HTC policy is "any three pixels" or "any two joined pixels".

When buying a phone, we often skip the step by step test because we are too eager for the phone that we expect long. Examine the steps necessary minimum:
* LCD Screen
- You for startup phone, startup screen is white color. You look at the different angles to see what is not normal ?
- When the phone was running, you turn on the camera application. You use hand lens cover>>> screen is black. You can observe different colored pixels that do not? if it occurs, it is dead pixels
*Speakers and external speakers (Make a call, listening to music at a volume level to maximum)
*Wireless connections and to try a few sites....
*Squeeze the cover slightly to see if sure?
*..................
Hopefully my experience was helpful for you and sorry for my poor English

Get insurance put up with it for a while and drop it in the sink. Get new one. Your bound to break it at some point in the future.
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I also have one dead pixel mid-right colored green. When I first got it i checked well and it was not there. After a few days it is there.
I bought mine during my business trip to Hong Kong. I went to the shop and asked my dealer to change vthe unit but they said there should be at least four dead pixels in order to change within 7 days. Also they told me to call the htc office but it was weekend and i will be leaving HK on the folllowing monday. so I had no chance but to live with it. I will send an email to Htc to check what they will say.

Guys,
Sorry to sound obvious but have you tried the jscreenfix app (there is an Android version in the market) or similar in order to make sure the pixels are actually dead and not simply stuck? If they are stuck this should repair it. I ran their software via my PS3 after picking up a couple of stuck pixels on my LCD TV and it worked wonders.
Not promising anything but it must be worth ago before resorting to taking it apart/ sending it back. From the comments you do have to let it run a while and maybe on a few occasions, however it should certainly help with coloured pixels (ie green)

To add my 2 cents, when ever i have some kind of issue, i will always make it over the top and add some juicy details when calling any company. For example i will say that my screen starts to loose colors after being on for more then an hour. I know it's not good in a sense, but when something costs 500+ euro, it should work fine for more then few month. In 10 or so years, my stuff was always replaced with a brand new one.
Regards.

Tezray said:
Get insurance put up with it for a while and drop it in the sink. Get new one. Your bound to break it at some point in the future.
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This is insurance fraud, its illegal, classed as theft and is causing insurance premiums to raise for the hardworking Joe who legitimately pays for his insurance.
Lankius Maximus said:
Guys,
Sorry to sound obvious but have you tried the jscreenfix app (there is an Android version in the market) or similar in order to make sure the pixels are actually dead and not simply stuck? If they are stuck this should repair it. I ran their software via my PS3 after picking up a couple of stuck pixels on my LCD TV and it worked wonders.
Not promising anything but it must be worth ago before resorting to taking it apart/ sending it back. From the comments you do have to let it run a while and maybe on a few occasions, however it should certainly help with coloured pixels (ie green)
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Glad to hear jscreenfix helped your problem but...
DaMastachief said:
I already tried JScreenFix and another app from the market to fix it and had my phone running on it for more than an hour. But unfortunately this didn't fix anything.
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Hello Folks,
sorry for not being able to answer quicker, but I came back late from work and couldn't access the site due to overload until now.
My dealer called me back and I explained everything to him and also told him that I won't send it in for repair again as I had a nightmare with him already with my Hero. He spoke to his boss, called me back and told me that they will make an exemption and change my phone. I am getting a brand new one, I am really excited and very happy and satisfied.
On the other hand I hope that this pixel issue won't happen again.
Lucky me I always keep everything in the package and take care about my gadgets very nicely. I already did a reset, cleaned it and put everything in order into the package like I got it.
I also don't do any insurance fraud and I am also exaggerating on the phone, but tbh honest guys: You can say whatever you want and try whatever is possible, but those guys at the HTC hotline don't give jack **** about your problems. Their answer is always the same and their flexibility in terms of problem solving is literally zero.
About that JScreenFix, I think it might work with stuck/coloured pixels. But dead black pixels can't be repaired with it. The program seems to cycle and cycle through all colours and tries to somehow calibrate the screen/pixels again. But dead pixels seem to be dead. At least that's what I can say about trying it and another application from the market.
But I will definitely check my phone very closely tomorrow upon receipt and will also do this in the future, because it takes like 1% of the time I need compared to waiting in line at any hotline.
Thanks again for all the hints and also for the link how to take it apart. Tbh I got a bit too much respect to do this and also because my phone is 14 days old and got 11,5 months warranty.
Wish me luck that the new one will be flawless and without any problems.
Cheers!

After reading this thread I decided to look and found one , it is purple so does that mean Jscreenfix should hopefully work?

Jscreenfix is absolutely bullsh*t in my opinion. Mine is definitely 2 stuck pixels as they are coloured red and blue, not black... But running it for more than an hour and not helping really makes my hopes dashed...

If I buy a Nexus 7 will my screen left

After some research the most prevalent problem with the N7 is quite obviously screen lifting. However, most of the posts I see are months old. So I have a simple question: If I buy my nexus 7 on lets say October the 7th 2012, will it still have the same problems? Has Google even acknowledged the problems at all to any type of press? I heard something about if you serial number starts with C8 it will have a problem but if it starts with C9 it won't? Just want some clarification.

Google and Asus have said nothing about this obviously widespread problem, despite reports that Asus are applying epoxy to the screen and bezel in order to keep the screen down as of the C9 batch, according to some reports.

All depends on where you buy it from and how old their stock is. I bought my 8gb from Staples over a month ago and its perfectly fine.

I bought mine in early Aug. and there is no screen lift at all.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I guess I'll order it from the play store? Unless there's a better way?

i got mine from asda and its fine

Get it from a brick and mortar store and By all means buy a extended /damage warranty from them or from Square trade. If you choose square trade . buy the warranty before you get the device. that way it will cover from minute you open the box...
If they are putting epoxy under the screen how would it be replaced or repaired.. This is kinda first i have heard of this but its quite likely true.. I think this could cause even more screen cracking issues. when weather conditions change .. glass must remain the ability to move . But held firmly in place.
Google play is extremely slow if you need to get a refund or exchange. you can exchange quick but they keep your money on hold for months...

Half my screen is frozen sometimes.

To describe this as thoroughly as possible, if my phone is awake and I am using it and this happens, it will freeze whatever I am looking at but only the right side. If the phone is asleep and this happens when I wake it, the right half will be random colored lines and dots, like how televisions fuzz out on a channel you don't get. Pressing against the screen fixes it and it will function normal after that. Also I retain full touch control on that side during the problem. I would take a picture but it happens randomly and the note 4 is my only camera haha.
Any idea what causes this? I really don't want to pay 100 bucks to TMO to replace it, but I will if that is the only option. It is incredibly annoying. Thank you.

My Note 4 has just started to do this today. I made a post about it on reddit and took some pictures. Hopefully this gets bumped so we can get this figured out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/help/dead-screen-t3022929
http://imgur.com/a/LqoeA

Wooooow
....That second image is my note 4 all over.
Half the screen goes haywire while the left side is frozen. I am unable to do anything to it at this point, and after holding several buttons...the screen goes black...still not able to do anything, and all of a sudden it restarts itself. Sometimes that fixes it for a few seconds. other times I have to remove the battery, wait a few seconds then it's alright for another few minutes. It happens no matter what I'm doing: watching a video, playing a game, answering a call, reading a text, responding to a text, or browsing the internet.

What I ended up doing was opening up the device and fiddling with the cables and connections.
Turns out there's a loose fitting connection in there that I couldn't seem to fit correctly back where it's supposed to go. Maybe there was an error in production and the parts do not fit together. Inside, there are two separate connections that connect the display to the motherboard. If both connections are not secure at the same time, it will simply not work. In my case, only one of the connections was loose. I was unable to fix it. Even though my device is out of warranty and has passed the 30 day return window (I bought it off Amazon), I managed to call them and they determined that it was a hardware failure and I already contacted Samsung customer support on this topic and they were unable to help me (since my model is 910F, the international/European version, they cannot help me) and they were able to create an RA to get a full refund for my phone. I decided I'm going to return it, and since the LG G4 is coming out soon, to just wait for that and ditch Samsung. LG has been good to me so far ever since I had my Nexus 4.

I had the same issue back when I bought my phone in October.
Went into my local Carphone Warehouse and replicated the problem to them and they sent it off for repair.
The repair slip just said that there was a hardware issue and that they had to replace the motherboard.
I believe Samsung offers a 1 year warranty so even if your store warranty has expired you can still get Samsung to fix this for you.
Wish you the best.

I would have had Samsung do it but when I called them they explained that they are unable to help me with my specific model of phone SM-910F (intl.) because it is manufactured for Europe, and that I would have to call Samsung UK to fix the problem/create an RA, and that would require me to be awake at 10pm- 8am or something stupid like that and make an international call to them and I did not want to have to deal with that. If they cannot fix a phone that I bought in the US and that I use in the US and it works fine in the US, then I would not like to do business with them any longer, seems like a stupid thing to do, manufacturing phones only for specific regions and telling people that they're out of luck when they have a problem with the phone if they're not using it in the region it was manufactured for.

so sadly my Note 4 has joined the group of devices with this frozen half grey screen and I am wondering whether anyone has a solution?

william-johnson said:
so sadly my Note 4 has joined the group of devices with this frozen half grey screen and I am wondering whether anyone has a solution?
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Still didnt find a solution so my Carrier asked that I send it in for repairs or replacement. I will keep you posted

samsung galaxy note 4 half screen problem
scottman0830 said:
My Note 4 has just started to do this today. I made a post about it on reddit and took some pictures. Hopefully this gets bumped so we can get this figured out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/help/dead-screen-t3022929
http://imgur.com/a/LqoeA
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same problem with my note 4 how can i fix it ???

Well it's a couple of months since my last update on this frisen screen issue. Sent it off for repairs and sadly the repair notice didn't indicate what was done. I can only say the report said it's a software issue and returned the phone updated to 5.1.1 from kit kat. Haven't had the issue since.
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Bright white line down the screen, 3rd XL

This is now my 3rd replacement which is due tomorrow, the first had charging issues, the second crashing apps and charging issues, the third after about 7 days use this horrible bright white line just appeared on the screen out of nowhere today, i'm now expecting my fourth replacement tomorrow, i'm about to give up on the XL if this next one isn't right, I've never had to send a new phone back at all, here's some examples.

I'm on phone #8, welcome to the club. Had to pick up another device to deal with my sanity being almost gone dealing with rma's
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Ady1976 said:
This is now my 3rd replacement which is due tomorrow, the first had charging issues, the second crashing apps and charging issues, the third after about 7 days use this horrible bright white line just appeared on the screen out of nowhere today, i'm now expecting my fourth replacement tomorrow, i'm about to give up on the XL if this next one isn't right, I've never had to send a new phone back at all, here's some examples.
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That's a bummer. I had issues with my Nexus 6P and Google was very good about making sure things were right. Even after two years they gave me a full refund.
Fortunately, I haven't had any problems with my Pixel XL 2

browniegirl said:
I'm on phone #8, welcome to the club. Had to pick up another device to deal with my sanity being almost gone dealing with rma's
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I'm starting to lose hope, even if i did get what seemed to be a good one that lasted a few months who knows when these lines might appear again out of nowhere, I really didn't want to have to deal with this constant rma cycle, I'm wasting so much time keep setting a new device up it's demoralising.

jasondowning85 said:
That's a bummer. I had issues with my Nexus 6P and Google was very good about making sure things were right. Even after two years they gave me a full refund.
Fortunately, I haven't had any problems with my Pixel XL 2
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That's one device i never had an issue with the 6p loved it, Google do seem to be dealing effectively by keep sending me a new one but if they run out of stock and i still can't get a fault free device I'm going to have to ask for a refund

Ady1976 said:
That's one device i never had an issue with the 6p loved it, Google do seem to be dealing effectively by keep sending me a new one but if they run out of stock and i still can't get a fault free device I'm going to have to ask for a refund
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Are they sending you refurb units or new? If refurbs, I would demand a new one. It's a $1,000 phone and no more than 6 months old?

jasondowning85 said:
Are they sending you refurb units or new? If refurbs, I would demand a new one. It's a $1,000 phone and no more than 6 months old?
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it's a new one they're sending, i'm concerned as to what is the time frame I've got before I can say just give me a full refund as it's not fit for use ?

browniegirl said:
I'm on phone #8, welcome to the club. Had to pick up another device to deal with my sanity being almost gone dealing with rma's
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Phone 7 here but it is perfect months in now!

Ady1976 said:
it's a new one they're sending, i'm concerned as to what is the time frame I've got before I can say just give me a full refund as it's not fit for use ?
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It depends upon the area, if they have refurbs your getting a refurb. Even the new is a "new" in a refurb box. Also, they won't give you a refund.
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I can't believe so many people have had to swap so many times. I'm 5 months in with phone #1 and no issues at all.

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It depends upon the area, if they have refurbs your getting a refurb. Even the new is a "new" in a refurb box. Also, they won't give you a refund.
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No these are brand new sealed, I'm in the uk, they said it's not a service centre repair or refurb as it was purchased from the Google store, incidentally the first 2 i had over the course since nov when i pre ordered none of them had any issues with the screen, just this later batch of mine which was manufactured on the 16th nov shipped on the 20th.

jimv1983 said:
I can't believe so many people have had to swap so many times. I'm 5 months in with phone #1 and no issues at all.
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I'll be honest mate I've never had to rma a single phone I've purchased over the last 10 years + this is a first, I've been unlucky it seems, although it also seems I'm not alone.

Just to update on this I watched this video https://youtu.be/upLTjUzrRxw a similar issue to him excep he didn't have the line until he pressed a certain part of the screen, I've now been able to remove the line by pressing a certain part of the screen near the bottom near the home button, it has now vanished, i can get it to reappear briefly by pressing the screen again in a certain area, but now it's off, I've told Google if it arrives back to them like this don't think there is nothing wrong with it, there must be some short or damaged connection behind the screen somewhere, I'm still keeping the new one which arrives today.

Facing the same issue
Even I had this experience. But in my case the bright white line was on the left of the phone. I'll let you know that my phone's screen has been cracked since the last 9 months and it had been working perfectly fine until one afternoon when I kept it in my bag and it had the thick line on it. I cannot diagnose if it's a software or hardware issue. I'm going for a screen replacement. But in the meantime can anyone help me to know if it is a software or hardware issue?

Namanv said:
Even I had this experience. But in my case the bright white line was on the left of the phone. I'll let you know that my phone's screen has been cracked since the last 9 months and it had been working perfectly fine until one afternoon when I kept it in my bag and it had the thick line on it. I cannot diagnose if it's a software or hardware issue. I'm going for a screen replacement. But in the meantime can anyone help me to know if it is a software or hardware issue?
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My replacement which I've had for nearly a year now is perfect and defect free, whites are white like they should be and no hardware defects, I'm sorry to say it sounds like a hardware issue, if you can firmly press all parts if the screen and sometimes it disappears it's a connection issue but it's very difficult to pin point where the exact loose connection is, if your getting a new and digitizer that may remove the issue.

I can press all parts of the screen perfectly..even where the line is located. Thats what made me think that it is a software bug. Also the line is far brighter than even the highest brightness settings on the phone. I'll have it replaced and I will respond here soon

Namanv said:
I can press all parts of the screen perfectly..even where the line is located. Thats what made me think that it is a software bug. Also the line is far brighter than even the highest brightness settings on the phone. I'll have it replaced and I will respond here soon
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Yes that's how mine was the line was extremely bright like that pixel line was on full brightness, no problem, loving the pixel 2 xl my best phone so far, will upgrade to the 4 xl if they get rid of that fugly notch on the 3 xl, Good luck with your screen mate.