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I am not doing a big comparison between Apple vs Android, not my point here. Just a simple observation today when at the Mall, looking at new phones. I think both Apple, and Google make great phones for their user base.
My history of smartphones; iPhone 1 and iPhone 3G, then moved onto to the Nexus-One, and then EVO 4G, which I just dropped in water, doing the dishes, lol... now planning to get the Nexus-S 4G.
With all the hype surrounding the new "white" iPhone 4, I was interested to check it out at the local Mall today, and be open minded to possibly go back to Apple. Uh no thanks now...Sure the new white i4 was cute and petite, but the screen size is just too small for my tastes, I think 4" is just perfect for a phone. And the iOS, was shockingly dated to use again again, after two years of Android. That big thumb button would drive me up the wall, I am so used to my back button, and menu button on my Androids, I could not stand going back to that one click button on the iPhone. Plus the iPhone 4 seemed so fragile, was afraid to even drop it in the store, looks like it would shatter or something. And the "retina" display, ok it was super crisp and high res, but Samsung's Super AMOLED, in my opinion is much nicer, sure the Samsung is not as sharp, but the awesome colors are amazing, and makes the iPhone almost look washed out a bit. And finally the form factor and phone in hand test, the Nexus-S feels perfect in the hand, nice weight, and fits in palm of hand just right, where the iPhone 4 was ok, but just a rectangular slab, nothing special.
Not to bash Apple, but I just don't understand the rabid fan base for this thing, sure it was nice, but Android has come along way in the past year, and the Nexus-S is every bit it's equal and then some. I think with the 3.1 "Ice Cream" release, Android will officially kick the iPhone to the curb as the best smart phone in town. But I am open minded to iOS5, if they add "widgets" and "notifications" plus put it on a 4" screen, that would make me think of possibly going back, but those three changes I doubt we will see in the iPhone5.
I don't get why there is hype on the white iPhone 4. It's the same thing featured in a different color.
iPhone 5 is rumored to come out later this year. And I don't see what you're trying to convey in this thread from the readers of your thread.
Previous posts about iPhone vs. Android (Nexus S in general) have been flame fests and this one will probably end in the same way.
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I am not doing a big comparison between Apple vs Android, not my point here. Just a simple observation today when at the Mall, looking at new phones. I think both Apple, and Google make great phones for their user base.
My history of smartphones; iPhone 1 and iPhone 3G, then moved onto to the Nexus-One, and then EVO 4G, which I just dropped in water, doing the dishes, lol... now planning to get the Nexus-S 4G.
With all the hype surrounding the new "white" iPhone 4, I was interested to check it out at the local Mall today, and be open minded to possibly go back to Apple. Uh no thanks now...Sure the new white i4 was cute and petite, but the screen size is just too small for my tastes, I think 4" is just perfect for a phone. And the iOS, was shockingly dated to use again again, after two years of Android. That big thumb button would drive me up the wall, I am so used to my back button, and menu button on my Androids, I could not stand going back to that one click button on the iPhone. Plus the iPhone 4 seemed so fragile, was afraid to even drop it in the store, looks like it would shatter or something. And the "retina" display, ok it was super crisp and high res, but Samsung's Super AMOLED, in my opinion is much nicer, sure the Samsung is not as sharp, but the awesome colors are amazing, and makes the iPhone almost look washed out a bit. And finally the form factor and phone in hand test, the Nexus-S feels perfect in the hand, nice weight, and fits in palm of hand just right, where the iPhone 4 was ok, but just a rectangular slab, nothing special.
Not to bash Apple, but I just don't understand the rabid fan base for this thing, sure it was nice, but Android has come along way in the past year, and the Nexus-S is every bit it's equal and then some. I think with the 3.1 "Ice Cream" release, Android will officially kick the iPhone to the curb as the best smart phone in town. But I am open minded to iOS5, if they add "widgets" and "notifications" plus put it on a 4" screen, that would make me think of possibly going back, but those three changes I doubt we will see in the iPhone5.
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I love my Nexus S but to be honest, it will be hard for me not to go back to iPhone if the next one is a dual core 3.7/4" screen. I even have a hard time not throwing my sim in the iPhone 4 I have to play some games and overhaul some battery life.
After trying out my Android for the first time, I guess it's hard to turn my back against it and go back to iOS which seems boring to me :/
I suggest you pick up the iphone 4, iOS is more effective as a "Phone" than the nexus. If you are really into customization/widgets, nexus s would be a better choice.
Different Strokes for Different Folks
I used to look at it as "This is better then that" etc.. But let's face it, the current crop of smartphones are each amazing devices in their own rights. Each devices has a set of pro's and con's and it's up to each person to decide what is best.
A person will get better objective results by making two threads, one here and one on the apple forums, saying "What are the advantages and dis-advantages of the phone"
This thread being phrased as it is, in the nexus forum, is just going to go down in flames as a previous member pointed out.
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I suggest you pick up the iphone 4, iOS is more effective as a "Phone" than the nexus. If you are really into customization/widgets, nexus s would be a better choice.
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Could you give an explanation cause calling and getting to make a call works smooth on android same for sms
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My personal observations:
Both have awesome screens and in a sense both have better screens than the other.
iPhone 4 uses better materials (glass and stainless steel)
Nexus S is more configurable, there are all kinds of utilities that tweak the system. Downside is the virus risk.
Both Nexus S and iPhone come with excellent first party apps
I like the home screen and app folder of Nexus S better
I found a nice live wallpaper and I now love this feature
Android market is not available in my country while App Store is
As a rule of thumb 3rd party android apps have lower quality (better still than symbian app store)
Nexus S is cheaper and comes with no strings attached
PS! It doesn't feel right to compare Android to iOS. Google stole the iPhone UI and improved on it, without iPhone there would be no Android (as we know it).
PPS! I own Nexus S and never owned an iPhone.
iinlane said:
My personal observations:
Both have awesome screens and in a sense both have better screens than the other.
iPhone 4 uses better materials (glass and stainless steel)
Nexus S is more configurable, there are all kinds of utilities that tweak the system. Downside is the virus risk.
Both Nexus S and iPhone come with excellent first party apps
I like the home screen and app folder of Nexus S better
I found a nice live wallpaper and I now love this feature
Android market is not available in my country while App Store is
As a rule of thumb 3rd party android apps have lower quality (better still than symbian app store)
Nexus S is cheaper and comes with no strings attached
PS! It doesn't feel right to compare Android to iOS. Google stole the iPhone UI and improved on it, without iPhone there would be no Android (as we know it).
PPS! I own Nexus S and never owned an iPhone.
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There was square icons for apps in winmo before iphone
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before iOS there was WinOS, before WinOS there was PalmOS & SymbianOS
both PalmOS & Symbian are original of phone platform, and everything else that came after simply copied, and improved upon it.
if anyone should be suing anybody it'll be Palm + Symbian suing apple and microsoft
Symbian can be found on the oldest dumb phones you ever got your hands on, most noticeable on Nokia and Sony phones
PalmOS at that point in time was the only real smartphone, as it came from their PDA line.
Palm started as PDA and moved to smartphone
Symbian started as phone then moved to smartphone
The iPhone and Android were developed at the same time its really unlikely that Android intended to rip off a product they didn't know about ....since then they have borrowed from eachother alot
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The iPhone and Android were developed at the same time its really unlikely that Android intended to rip off a product they didn't know about ....since then they have borrowed from eachother alot
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Agreed. Both OS's were unveiled in 2007, with a couple of months between them. They couldn't have rip off one another because they were in production the whole time before that. So don't start saying crap like Android is a copy of iOS when we all know this is bull****.
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before iOS there was WinOS, before WinOS there was PalmOS & SymbianOS
both PalmOS & Symbian are original of phone platform, and everything else that came after simply copied, and improved upon it.
if anyone should be suing anybody it'll be Palm + Symbian suing apple and microsoft
Symbian can be found on the oldest dumb phones you ever got your hands on, most noticeable on Nokia and Sony phones
PalmOS at that point in time was the only real smartphone, as it came from their PDA line.
Palm started as PDA and moved to smartphone
Symbian started as phone then moved to smartphone
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Thanks for the history lesson, you pointed out very well who were the creators of the phone OS industry. I didn't knew some of the info, so thanks a lot for sharing ! Cheers !
The IBM Simon is the real grandaddy of smart phones :-D
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I recently sold my iphone 4 and switched to the Nexus S. I don't miss my iPhone one bit.
Apple do some things better, Google others. My iphone couldn't download podcasts and back up to Dropbox while I sleep, for example. But then my iphone wouldn't let me run large numbers of polling background apps and run down my battery in hours.
I prefer the iphone camera, and music experience. But then lately I've been all about Spotify so that becomes less important.
Final note: my Nexus has only ever dropped one call. My iphone 4, in identical areas, was pretty terrible at holding a call.
To each their own, but I'd say on balance Apple and Google are currently neck and neck. But I'll say again, I don't miss my iphone right now.
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What about the screen ? How does the SAMOLED or SLCD compare to retina display ?
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What about the screen ? How does the SAMOLED or SLCD compare to retina display ?
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It's a personal matter... My wife has an iphone, I prefer my super amoled display with the beautiful colors, she prefers the shaper images of her retina display, so i think there is no better, you have to compare yourself and decide...
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Just traded my iPhone 4 for an Nexus S with SLCD.
The Retina Display is really nice, but the SLCD is also very good, and for me its just the Size... iPhone Display is to small for me. And iOS is getting really boring... some Winterboard and Sbsettings Customization.. maybe a different Lockscreen and some poor "widgets"...
Both Phones are really good, its just a personal preference wich one to Choose
Thank you both for your answers. I'm still undecided whether to buy the SAMOLED or SLCD version. I don't own an iPhone but indeed the retina display is a quality screen, very convenient for reading (might be the resolution aswell). So I guess I'll go for the SLCD.
HTC one was the best mobile phone in 2013 , and no one can say otherwise
HTC introduced to the industry 3 majors features in the HTC one , that definitely other phone manufacturer will be using in there future phones.
First : All metal design
Second : boomsound
Third : ultrapixel , and that more megapixels doesn't mean better pictures
Samsung is rumored to enter its new phase in phone design , and begin using all metal bodies
The highly praised speakers of the HTC one , could be a sign of competitors start using similar design or start to develop its own technology to compete in this area.
What I want us to discuss is HTC going to use this three things again in there next gen device ( 2014 ) , or introduce something new .
They are facing a hard job , they must introduce a better device , with new features , that will make it differ from the HTC one , while making the most loved features in the one not to be missed
I want a S800 tablet that isn't made by Samsung.
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This isn't necessarily product related (well it is) but I want then to release all colour variants of the same phone at the same time or close to same time. If they can't release it around the same time as the device launch then they should at least say they are working on whatever color variant and it will be available in the future.
I really wish I had said to buy the red HTC one.
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The main job of HTC now isn't new features .. but rather built quality and more testing b4 rolling out the devices ... For example the HTC One .. Design is good but u have to be super lucky to not get a faulty device from the first time ... Either dust under the screen .. or volume rockers are too loose ... Or there are gaps between the aluminum and the plastic .. or hardware problems .. or or or ... And secondly their customer service .. if they go and work on those 2 factors .. I don't find any trouble seeing them leading the smartphone market for a long time !!
I wish if they make an 8 megapixel ultrapixel camera .. I like the performance of my HTC One's camera a lot, best camera phone I ever used, but you know .. sometimes we need to zoom ..
There next big thing might be declaring bankruptcy .....
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There next big thing might be declaring bankruptcy .....
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Unfortunately this may be true, though maybe not immediately. They do have their share of problems and being up against a juggernaut like Samsung is not the least of them. However, the smartphone market is fickle and one or two consistent good products (supported by great marketing) is all it might take for them to make a turnaround.
Anyways, as far as the device itself goes I'd only like them to sort out quality control issues for whatever they put out next.
the only thing they should focus on is MARKETING!
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HTC introduced to the industry 3 majors features in the HTC one , that definitely other phone manufacturer will be using in there future phones.
First : All metal design
Second : boomsound
Third : ultrapixel , and that more megapixels doesn't mean better pictures
The highly praised speakers of the HTC one , could be a sign of competitors start using similar design or start to develop its own technology to compete in this area.
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They are facing a hard job , they must introduce a better device , with new features , that will make it differ from the HTC one , while making the most loved features in the one not to be missed
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I think HTC has some potential for marketing. For example the HD-Microfone. A Feature that I won't miss anymore. Best audioquality on a handycam I ever had. But nobody mention this , even not the reviews.
Evenmore they can improve with there own software. For example: Nice to select music for highlightvideos, but why can't I choose whitch part of music?
Or maybe implement a feature like chathead.... Or multiwindow....
My wishes for hardware. Sdcard slot... Really.... All other high-end phones have this feature. Even my old DHD had this feature....
Maybe work on the ultrapixelcam. 6 to 8 megapixel would be nice.
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The chasis & dimension of the One imo are fine, build quaility issues mentioned by Hiken_Ace aside(these should be fixed as they make more phones of that design, AndroidCentral claim the Blue Ones don't have much issue).
Things I want for the HTC One successor(hardware changes like S800+LPDDR3 are inevitable anyway):
Thinner bezel
Three Button layout
The buttons become on-screen thus increasing the screen size
More Pixel in the Ultrapixel Camera, 6-8MP. The Zoom & Daylight performance still leaves something to be desired.
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Because focusing on making the best device possible is overrated /s
I would love to see HTC employ metal removable backs like they have done in the Chinese and Indian dual SIM variants, nice to have a removable battery, storage wise 32gb-64gb is more than enough, external micro sd cards slow devices down, and then people will blame the phone even though they have a low class sd card, removable storage isn't a necessity any more, more of a niche thing. With the removable metal back cover, one has the option of replacing the back if it falls victim to dents and scratches, I know I would definitely love to use this phone without a case, but I don't want to get stuck with dents and scratches for the remainder of the life of the phone, hence forced to use the case (however I do remove the cases off my phones 6 months prior to upgrading). Remove the capacitive buttons, give us an edge to edge screen within the same frame, and if no removable battery, then squeeze in at least a 3000 mAh battery, I'm sure it can be done, the droid maxx did it and it's no phablet.
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Because focusing on making the best device possible is overrated /s
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In some ways it is. The key point is that Samsung outspends HTC by a ratio of 10:1 in marketing. With such carpet bombing of advertising and in models, over the last 2+ years, Samsung has rocketed up to prominence. Because of the quality of their phones? Hardly. They make some very good phones (although not to my taste) but that is in my opinion just a relatively small reason for their success. If the HTC One had come out say with an 8 mp ultrapixel shooter and none of these QC issues (which only a very small minority - like people on this forum - would notice) the phone would have sold a bit more but nothing remotely to compare with the S4 and other Samsung models. As the marketing types like to call it, mindshare is what Samsung has.
When the "average" smartphone buyer goes into a store, the first phone most of them think of is a Samsung (other than an iPhone) and Samsung is aided and abetted by the sales staff there who get plenty of incentives, both from Samsung and from the stores themselves, to push their brand.
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For the sake of argument let's give HTC credit for building the "best device;" at least until the slew of 4.7/5" S-800 phones come out. This is what it has done for them. And while HTC's YOY sales have dropped with the One as their flagship smartphone sales increased 31% in Q2 2013.
+1 for going back to the 3 button layout that the One X had. Why is it that HTC drop the number of buttons then have to multifunction the ones that are left? Ultimately I would like to see the next release separating Android from the Sense skin. I like the uni body construction, maybe they could make it water resistant like the Xperia.
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If they can fit more of the same sized pixels in the next phone, that would be awesome. Keep the speakers and keep whatever the new high end processor is out there.
Talk to reps at your carriers, specially T-Mobile. Many do not even sell HTC one and focus on s4, iPhone 5 and Xperia sometimes. Is it because they think HTC one is crap? Yes! Is it crap? No, I love mine. I have not been happier with a device in ages. I love sense 5, used to hate it.
So why do people who sell phones hate them? Simple, previous versions. Every HTC release in the US had good marketing and good sales, yet a ton of software and hardware issues. From HTC sensation to evo 4g to evo 4g lte to HTC one s. I think people who have been working in retail are over HTC due to the problems theyvr encountered first hand. Shame, as we know how good HTC one is, how if blows s4 out of the water with overall user experience and smoothness.
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The company is facing a hard time because HTC one is not selling much worldwide despite being the best phone in the market ,, and the one mini ain't doing good also ,, unless the two new windows phone sells a lot we are looking to another Nokia ... But this time it's happening with the company who introduced android in mobile phones
And what Samsung have and HTC don't is applications where is HTC applications for god sake ... few applications and they are very modest comparing to Samsung not to mention Sony and they are doing very good btw
Not even ironman can boost marketing not when the ship is sinking
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HTC one was the best mobile phone in 2013 , and no one can say otherwise
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Galaxy Note 3 is arguably the better Android phone of 2013
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Galaxy Note 3 is arguably the better Android phone of 2013
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Do you really consider galaxy note 3 , to be 2013 phone , by the time it is released worldwide , it will be 2014 .
The phone is designed to compete next year phones .
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I just got curious and wanted to see a reasonably in depth look at specs to compare our lovely Z and the new all singing and dancing iphone 5s and it's baby brother the 5c.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...hone-5c,Apple-iPhone-5s/phones/7539,7983,7710
What I find interesting is that realistically the new IPhones are very much lagging behind the Z, and dare I say it here the S4, in terms of hardware and software. Don't get me wrong it's a nice looking set of phones Apple have just released but tech wise I don't see why Apple insist on keeping their specs lower than the competition and resting on their brand image to keep their customer base, I mean seriously, an 8mp camera is a joke when Sony have 13mp and the newer add on lense. Their latest software isn't any improvement over the latest version of the 5 itself. The finger scanner is the only real technological advances they made, and big woop... a scanner. (I had some experience playing around with these fingerprint scanners in a previous job and get one little cut on your thumb at your out of luck, most won't recognise you)
They have the financial and technological backing to blow all Android phones out the water.... BUT they never do.
What are people's views on this?
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iPhone 5S "S for Same"
iPhone 5C "C for Crap"
Xperia Z "Z for Zenith" which means Above all. Top notch premium phone.
thanks a lot Samsung for inventing plastic crap. you got a follower now and its name is same of a fruit.
@Entropy512, can you explain the benefits (if any), of the 5s having a 64-bit processor? Thanks
I'm not entropy but I'm willing to give out my opinion on this. A bigger faster processor is only more battery hogging. it could helps in gaming on mobile but after all, smart phones are phones and not computers. why do you need a 64bit processor for that ? in terms of beauty iPhone might take the lead but this innovative are going down the curve.
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Let's make a phone because we are loosing business to Android but they still release a phone which you cannot customise in anyway, unlike Android which is completely customisable not only the Z but even the HTC one SG4 ect.
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iPhone 5S "S for Same"
iPhone 5C "C for crap"
Xperia Z "Z for Zenith" which means Above all. Top notch premium phone.
thanks a lot Samsung for inventing plastic crap. you got a follower now and its name is same of a fruit.
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I like this
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thanks man!
I came from an S2 with 8 MP camera to Z with the 13.1 MP.
I just don't care much about it. 8 MP or 13 or 20 - it's fine by me. I have a Nikon D80 for taking pictures. My phone is for taking snap-shots here and now. I don't buy a phone because of the camera if picture quality is equal to Wildfire S.
Am I the only one who does not care that much about camera?
LTE network for hi-speed mobile data, large screen for my large hands and storage capacity for the apps I need, SD-card option to move data (why can you not store ANY type of file you want to on an iPhone?) quick loading of webpages and apps because of a powerful CPU, quick and reliable location service and navigation, SSH access to manage Ubuntu servers, FTP clients and servers for filesharing directly from my SD card via wireless network in my home, the ability to mount the storage as a portable USB drive, and tons of other things - those are the things that really matters to me. My phone should be a powerful computer always connected to the internet when I'm out of the house - not a camera.
The small screen on iPhone is enough for me to not want it. I don't get why Apple does not release a 5" version.
Most of the comments i hear from customers about iphone and apple are:
1) Design
2) Inovation
3) Luxury feel
With this 2013 launch of 5S and 5C apple is going to a dangerous road.
- Design-wise continues to be good but people are geting way bored of too many phones that look-alike the previous generation of iphones.
- Inovation-wise it's clear by now that Apple is no longer on the forefront. People already identify Samsung as "leading".
- Luxury status - With the launch of a plastic-budget oriented phone Apple is starting to lose the relationship most people had between Iphone = expensive, luxury, i'm-so-rich feeling.
In fact, in my customer rating i would have to say that 9out of 10 iphone users absolutely hated the idea of the 5C "cheap iphone", most were so but-hurt of losing a little bit of the premium feel of the brand that mentioned that they won't upgrade to the 5S and in fact they'll try out Android afterwards.
A lot of people like glamour, luxury and the premium feel of having a highly famous device on their posession, if Apple starts losing that apeal i'm quite sure i'll sell more android and less IOs very, very soon.
Cheers
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http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...-marketing-fluff-and-wont-improve-performance
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http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...-marketing-fluff-and-wont-improve-performance
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Haha I guess that's what it always comes down to in the end the "more is better" bs
For me:
Design: Z, not much to say, some might prefer the clean 5S design though
Usability: Z, bigger screen, more res, more content, specially webpages.
Performance: Tie?
OS: Z, Android customizability anyone?
Battery life: Surely goes to the 5S, Apple devices usually excell at battery life
Camera: ??
Screen: 5S, I like color reproduction, white balance, and overall screen quality of the 5. Nothing to do the "viewing angles" people complain about, I care **** about it.
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iPhone 5S "S for Same"
iPhone 5C "C for Crap"
Xperia Z "Z for Zenith" which means Above all. Top notch premium phone.
thanks a lot Samsung for inventing plastic crap. you got a follower now and its name is same of a fruit.
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if i ever want plastic i'll buy a Toy rather than an iPhone 5C CRAP or Samsung!
You can't compare specs between iOS and android. IOS will always run more smooth on lesser hardware, because it was made for it. The camera probably destroys the Z's. The old iphone 5 already did. Battery probably a tie, or a bit better on the 5s. Apple don't rely on heavy techspecs because they don't need to.. Wonder when reviewes get that fact?..
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Yes i can compare specs between them. we're now in a age that blessed us with Quad core, Real Octa core and Snapdragon 800 like blazing fast and battery efficient processors while apple still on their A6/A7 chip with dual core. by looking at this when we reach to 10 core processors, apple will then introduce its first quad core iPhone it seems. battery is way way more efficient on android than iPhone and i say this by personal experience and i do own an iPhone. Apple really should put in heavy specs if this being the scenario.
and i don't quite understand why everyone is saying iPhone 5C is a cheap iPhone?
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For me:
Design: Z, not much to say, some might prefer the clean 5S design though
Usability: Z, bigger screen, more res, more content, specially webpages.
Performance: Tie?
OS: Z, Android customizability anyone?
Battery life: Surely goes to the 5S, Apple devices usually excell at battery life
Camera: ??
Screen: 5S, I like color reproduction, white balance, and overall screen quality of the 5. Nothing to do the "viewing angles" people complain about, I care **** about it.
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Camera:It has dual led. And seeing how previous iPhones take good photos, I'm assuming this one will be better. And it has a slow mo camera where you can specifically choose which part of the video you want it to slow mo. That's a good feature.
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and i don't quite understand why everyone is saying iPhone 5C is a cheap iPhone?
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Me neither it's expensive for a plastic IPhone.. Half the price is just the stupid name/brand called Apple
For the hardware etc they have put in the new iPhones price is too high. AGAIN! I'll never buy something like IPhone for.that price.
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One thing where XZ falls behind is dark shots with the camera...Too much grain & noise..Even the S3 takes better pics in the dark..and even iphone 5.
Oh they have busrt mode ahahahhah
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Since the z5 premium was announced, I've seen a lot of hate on the note 5 owners.
Seems the general consensus that people only but the Samsung flagships, in particular the note phones because they're popular. I've seen vast comments along the lines of, bet note 5 owners regret their purchase now.
They're forgetting the note phones use great amoled screens and have the spen.
As far as I'm aware the note series is the only android phone to nativaly muliscreen also
Anybody care to explain why all the note 5 hate?
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There are 2 possible explanations for this thread:
1- You're looking for trouble
2- You're immature enough to even think about creating such pointless, wasted space on XDA servers.
Please work on your social skills. In case you didn't know, everybody is entitled to their opinion, the way you vacate that opinion shows the degree of sophistication you have. Responding to those that have no sophistication puts you right at their level.
Why this sh!tty thread?
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There are 2 possible explanations for this thread:
1- You're looking for trouble
2- You're immature enough to even think about creating such pointless, wasted space on XDA servers.
Please work on your social skills. In case you didn't know, everybody is entitled to their opinion, the way you vacate that opinion shows the degree of sophistication you have. Responding to those that have no sophistication puts you right at their level.
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Yes I get that they're entitled, I'm just trying to figure out of all the phones why the Samsung phones get the most negative comments on. I've owned Sony Z phones and own an iPhone 6. They're all nice phones, in particular I like the amoled screen, spen, and Samsung exclusive features.
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Oh why the lock?
GreeleyXda said:
No trouble, just voicing my opinion after seeing all the comments on z5 videos and post that say, "bet the note 5 owners regret their purchase"
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This is not the way to voice your opinion. This is just fishing for hostile responses, which you're already getting
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This is not the way to voice your opinion. This is just fishing for hostile responses, which you're already getting
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My bad, I've attempted to re-write it but it's probably to late.
Anyways what's your opinion on why Samsung gets picked on the most?
The z5 has other OEMs to compete with like HTC and Apple (I believe those are the 2 compared most to sony's build quality)
GreeleyXda said:
My bad, I've attempted to re-write it but it's probably to late.
Anyways what's your opinion on why Samsung gets picked on the most?
The z5 has other OEMs to compete with like HTC and Apple (I believe those are the 2 compared most to sony's build quality)
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The bigger you are, the easier it is to pick on you. I am happy with my choices, but out of all OEMs, i think Samsung offers consistently good products even if they each have their flaws. No matter what they do, they cannot make everybody happy, thankfully on the Android ecosystem, there will never be a lack of choice. To each their own
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The bigger you are, the easier it is to pick on you. I am happy with my choices, but out of all OEMs, i think Samsung offers consistently good products even if they each have their flaws. No matter what they do, they cannot make everybody happy, thankfully on the Android ecosystem, there will never be a lack of choice. To each their own
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True guess they are one of the bigger companies. Im super happy with the new build quality of the note 5/s6.
Was shocked about how many people were displeased with the no sd card, coming from an s6 edge. I also own a iPhone 6 so memory card there either. I was pretty happy with just big internal storage. No idea why they cut the note off at 64gb.
what's your opinion on 4k phones?
With the Z phones battery life, I'm not shocked Sony is the first phone company going at it. Plus they've had 4k tvs out for a bit now.
Personally I think why one might not notice the need/difference for 4k, they'll grow into it like they did 1440p phones. I can't imagine people streaming 4k video or storing much of it on there phone tho. Although I've read the z5 can handle up to 200gb sd cards (pretty pricey probably)
To anybody reading would you want 4k on the next note?
I think Samsung should handle the ram fiasco first and then maybe try to incorporate sd cards again since it seems like a lot of people weren't happy with the loss of extendable memory
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As far as I'm aware the note series is the only android phone to nativaly muliscreen also
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You are very misinformed.
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You are very misinformed.
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I'd change misinformed to Unaware but sure lol
Which phones? I'd love to check them out to see how it compares to Samsung's multiwindow.
My dream phone can have 4 windows open nativaly like the note pro, since Verizon is anti-root.
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I'd change misinformed to Unaware but sure lol
Which phones? I'd love to check them out to see how it compares to Samsung's multiwindow.
My dream phone can have 4 windows open nativaly like the note pro, since Verizon is anti-root.
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LG has it too, but it's not as good as what Samsung has. Samsung's Multi-Window is better than the competition. There's Multi Window in the Android M Developer Preview on the Nexus 5/6, but it's experimental at the moment... Meaning it's not ready yet. It probably won't be on the official Android Marshmallow release though.
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what's your opinion on 4k phones?
With the Z phones battery life, I'm not shocked Sony is the first phone company going at it. Plus they've had 4k tvs out for a bit now.
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Samsung is the only company that can afford a slow but steady "Apple like" evolution of their phones. Other OEMs have to resort to making phones that have special features that stand out in order to attract client. All OEMs except for Samsung are currently losing money so they have to come up with ways to say "our phone was the first that did X, or had X" Sometimes it works out in their favor, sometimes not. A bit like the ultra-pixel 4MP camera on HTC One. They were marketing that features as if it were unique to their flagship and most importantly, a camera game changer. Turned out, it was good for shooting nice low res pictures in low light, but it was overall one of the worst camera ever at the time.
As for the 4K screen, sure, it's nice, but battery technology isn't here to justify a 4K screen without a considerable drop in battery life and overall performance. Samsung has been working on a super thin flexible high capacity battery that will revolutionize battery life on smartphones, but until then, these features will just be a way to impress others...i'm not even sure you'll see that much of a difference between our screens and a 4K screen.
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Since the z5 premium was announced, I've seen a lot of hate on the note 5 owners.
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Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.
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Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.
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I think it's £699 Right? So that's probably about the cost of an iPhone 6+ 128gb in usd. For 1/4 of the memory. ouch
Like I said before I'm with you, plus won't the battery usage being higher for video since it's an lcd screen? They're claiming 2 day battery but idk
Yes I was reading with all the mid-tier phones being so good, these higher priced phones are losing sales. If they lose their mobile division how will they offer the free year of playstation plus for buying their latest Xperia Z
I'm so confused on Samsung's financial situation, I thought they were doing bad with the s5/note 4 so they made these radical changes to try and recoup their mobile business
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Samsung is the only company that can afford a slow but steady "Apple like" evolution of their phones. Other OEMs have to resort to making phones that have special features that stand out in order to attract client. All OEMs except for Samsung are currently losing money so they have to come up with ways to say "our phone was the first that did X, or had X" Sometimes it works out in their favor, sometimes not. A bit like the ultra-pixel 4MP camera on HTC One. They were marketing that features as if it were unique to their flagship and most importantly, a camera game changer. Turned out, it was good for shooting nice low res pictures in low light, but it was overall one of the worst camera ever at the time.
As for the 4K screen, sure, it's nice, but battery technology isn't here to justify a 4K screen without a considerable drop in battery life and overall performance. Samsung has been working on a super thin flexible high capacity battery that will revolutionize battery life on smartphones, but until then, these features will just be a way to impress others...i'm not even sure you'll see that much of a difference between our screens and a 4K screen.
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Samsung throws so many things out at once, idk if I would call that slow. Heck they even have tizen phones.
I would agree but Sonys claiming 2 day battery life.
The thing is to see the difference, you need something to showcase it off. I'm not exactly sure what sony is going to do to show off 4k. I've owned the tab s, s6, and now note 5, and deepening my connection 1440p video is already hard to handle lol.
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I'm so confused on Samsung's financial situation, I thought they were doing bad with the s5/note 4 so they made these radical changes to try and recoup their mobile business
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Samsung Mobile has made $5B in profit through July and the parent company has $50B of cash in the bank. The market's changed dramatically and assuming they regain their footing they'll be just fine.
good thread.
I've been considering whether to wait for the Z5 or take the plunge and buy note 5 now.
The price is a factor as Z5 is more expensive but mind you it does look brilliant better then note 5.
4k screen is amazing amazing
I would have bought note 5 in an instance where it not for TW and i do prefer sony UI.
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Samsung Mobile has made $5B in profit through July and the parent company has $50B of cash in the bank. The market's changed dramatically and assuming they regain their footing they'll be just fine.
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Does Samsung mobile include sales of screens and cpu chips to other companies? if so that would be more believable since they did really good with thief chips in addition to Qualcomm having problems with their chip.
riz157 said:
good thread.
I've been considering whether to wait for the Z5 or take the plunge and buy note 5 now.
The price is a factor as Z5 is more expensive but mind you it does look brilliant better then note 5.
4k screen is amazing amazing
I would have bought note 5 in an instance where it not for TW and i do prefer sony UI.
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Definately sounds like you would enjoy the Z5 more. Maybe you could get it on a payment plan, if it seems too expensive.
If you're into rooting, I would check out the z5 forum first. On one of the older Xperia Zs unlocking the boot loader affected the camera software, idk if they ever found away around that since I don't frequent over their too often.
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Does Samsung mobile include sales of screens and cpu chips to other companies?
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Nope. That division is Samsung Semiconductor. The number I shared is purely for mobile devices. They sold $22B in mobile devices last quarter alone.
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Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.
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Where have you seen pricing for it? Sony has not released pricing for the device yet.
Sorry if this thread has been made before but I have been a long time android user basically since the note 1 but when Apple released the iPhone 6 plus I switched to it and actually liked it a lot. I stuck with it, and got the iPhone 6s plus when that came out and have had that for a while. I like it but iOS does start to get boring after a while even with jailbreaking. I definitely miss the rooting and customization of Android and have never owned a Nexus device so stock Android has always intrigued me. One of the main reasons I got rid of the note was I was getting sick of touchwiz and I truthfully never really used the s pen anyway.
Well, I came across an opportunity to trade someone my iPhone 6s plus for a brand new Nexus 6p and I am wondering if I should dive back into the world of Android. I will say right away one thing about Apple is the apps are better and more refined, but in my experience at least with the note the touchscreen on the note was way better than on the iPhone. When Swyping on the iPhone the screen constantly loses contact with my finger and I have to delete the word and start all over again.
I am just wondering if anyone here that perhaps has had experience with both phones could give me an idea of what to expect. I would just go out and try the nexus at my local store but obviously they aren't sold in stores and the person I am buying it from has it brand new factory sealed so once I open it, I pretty much have to take the deal. One big question I have that I have seen a lot of mixed answers to in my research is, does the Nexus show Bluetooth device battery life in the status bar like the iPhone does?
I appreciate any and all input and I apologize again if this thread has been made a whole bunch of times.
I think it varies on a lot of factors. I do own both devices (and many MANY more) and while I prefer Android as my main mobile OS of choice, I like the synergy created between iPhone devices and Macbooks in their use of continuity. Yes, Pushbullet offers something similar on the Windows side, but I prefer the way Apple handles it.
That said, if you are not invested in the iOS ecosystem and don't have a computer running OSX, going back to Android is a good idea. The Nexus 6P is a device that feels better, looks better, and performs much better than iOS (even with jailbreaking). However, if you are invested in the Apple ecosystem, the decision gets murkier.
And yes, the Nexus 6P does take better photos and offers wider flexibility than the iPhone 6s Plus.
As far as the question if the Nexus 6P shows bt device battery life, it does not. It's really convenient to have that on the iPhone. It's hard to guess where your battery is for bt. Really, really hard. I'd ask for money on top for the trade for your iPhone 6s Plus.
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I think it varies on a lot of factors. I do own both devices (and many MANY more) and while I prefer Android as my main mobile OS of choice, I like the synergy created between iPhone devices and Macbooks in their use of continuity. Yes, Pushbullet offers something similar on the Windows side, but I prefer the way Apple handles it.
That said, if you are not invested in the iOS ecosystem and don't have a computer running OSX, going back to Android is a good idea. The Nexus 6P is a device that feels better, looks better, and performs much better than iOS (even with jailbreaking). However, if you are invested in the Apple ecosystem, the decision gets murkier.
And yes, the Nexus 6P does take better photos and offers wider flexibility than the iPhone 6s Plus.
As far as the question if the Nexus 6P shows bt device battery life, it does not. It's really convenient to have that on the iPhone. It's hard to guess where your battery is for bt. Really, really hard. I'd ask for money on top for the trade for your iPhone 6s Plus.
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Thank you, I really appreciate the input and I actually don't have any other Apple products but many people have told me they work really well with their computers with the continuity. How would you say the battery life of the Nexus compares to the iPhone? Also would you say the screen on the Nexus is better? I know being an amoled display it probably is but that's another thing I've heard mixed reviews on. Some people say it has a really cheap amoled display and the iPhones iPS is actually better.
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Thank you, I really appreciate the input and I actually don't have any other Apple products but many people have told me they work really well with their computers with the continuity. How would you say the battery life of the Nexus compares to the iPhone? Also would you say the screen on the Nexus is better? I know being an amoled display it probably is but that's another thing I've heard mixed reviews on. Some people say it has a really cheap amoled display and the iPhones iPS is actually better.
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The battery life on a jailbroken device and the Nexus 6P is about the same from my experiences. Not bad at all honestly. The screen is no contest, the Nexus 6P. I don't think it's cheap. There can be a yellow hue on the display (I've seen some saturation report issues) but it's not bad. It's pretty good. The IPS display is not all that though
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The battery life on a jailbroken device and the Nexus 6P is about the same from my experiences. Not bad at all honestly. The screen is no contest, the Nexus 6P. I don't think it's cheap. There can be a yellow hue on the display (I've seen some saturation report issues) but it's not bad. It's pretty good. The IPS display is not all that though
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If you could only have one of them, which one would you choose?
I would sell the 6s plus and buy a new 6p which just got a 50 dollar price cut
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This might help you:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review
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If you could only have one of them, which one would you choose?
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If I weren't so deeply entrenched in Apple's ecosystem, the Nexus without a single doubt in my mind. I prefer Android but the synergy with Apple devices is hard to beat. I think it is their handoff and continuity features that keeps me using Apple iOS devices. However, in terms of the experience, Android has the better experience. iOS has far better designed apps and then the handoff / continuity.
Assuming none of that factors into your decision, get a Nexus 6P
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If I weren't so deeply entrenched in Apple's ecosystem, the Nexus without a single doubt in my mind. I prefer Android but the synergy with Apple devices is hard to beat. I think it is their handoff and continuity features that keeps me using Apple iOS devices. However, in terms of the experience, Android has the better experience. iOS has far better designed apps and then the handoff / continuity.
Assuming none of that factors into your decision, get a Nexus 6P
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The ecosystem not really but the quality of apps does play a huge factor in my decision. Lots of the apps I use daily are far better on iOS. I also do like 3d touch a great deal.
For me, rooting and jailbreaking have become boring and moot.
IPhone pays attention detail esp with their hardware and gives off that more premium feel IMO. Nothing against the nexus 6p but the device doesn't stand par with the iphone. With the iphone, price is definitely a downside.
Screen is a toss up. It will depend on your preference in terms of IPS lcd vs amoled. Iphone does seem to sit closer to surface which comes as a positive to me but the 6p screen is no slouch either.
Your choice will boil down to which OS u like. For me, can't live without Android's data transfer. Can't stand iTunes.
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For me, rooting and jailbreaking have become boring and moot.
IPhone pays attention detail esp with their hardware and gives off that more premium feel IMO. Nothing against the nexus 6p but the device doesn't stand par with the iphone. With the iphone, price is definitely a downside.
Screen is a toss up. It will depend on your preference in terms of IPS lcd vs amoled. Iphone does seem to sit closer to surface which comes as a positive to me but the 6p screen is no slouch either.
Your choice will boil down to which OS u like. For me, can't live without Android's data transfer. Can't stand iTunes.
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Ya, see I can't stand iTunes either and love the way with Android you can download things to your phone. I have to say there are things I prefer on both ends but one thing I am wondering like another poster said though that if I was to do this trade I should ask for money on top of the Nexus. The nexus is a nice phone I know but doing a straight trade nexus 6p vs iPhone 6s plus now the nexus is 128 gig and the iPhone is 64 but how many here would say that I would be getting ripped of in this trade and how many think its a fair trade? Isn't the iPhone worth a lot more than the Nexus? I'm not talking about which one is better here, I am just talking about msrp and resale value.
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For me, rooting and jailbreaking have become boring and moot.
IPhone pays attention detail esp with their hardware and gives off that more premium feel IMO. Nothing against the nexus 6p but the device doesn't stand par with the iphone. With the iphone, price is definitely a downside.
Screen is a toss up. It will depend on your preference in terms of IPS lcd vs amoled. Iphone does seem to sit closer to surface which comes as a positive to me but the 6p screen is no slouch either.
Your choice will boil down to which OS u like. For me, can't live without Android's data transfer. Can't stand iTunes.
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When talking about the screen, what do you mean by iPhone's seems to sit more close to the surface? I do like Amoled displays, I hate the note 5 and absolutely loved that display but I have heard the Nexus's isn't quite as good as that one. When it comes to screens I am more of a fan of a natural look as opposed to colors being overly blown out which I know some Amoled'd can do. I know the iPhone has an extremely natural looking display.
We already have a nexus vs iPhone thread
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iPhone 6S Plus, and I have both of them. I think it boils down to quality of apps for me. Android still isn't there yet.
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Yup I think i'm sticking with the iPhone as well for that very reason. I would love to have both but until i'm in a position where I can afford both I'll stick with the iPhone. I appreciate everyone's feedback and I do apologize, I see that there are multiple threads on this topic.
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IPhone pays attention detail esp with their hardware and gives off that more premium feel IMO. Nothing against the nexus 6p but the device doesn't stand par with the iphone.
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Maybe I'm the only one, but holding a Nexus 6P next to an iPhone 6S Plus, the Nexus feels and looks to me to be the more premium device. This is especially true for the white iphone models (most of them). Android devices like the Droid Turbo 2 get slammed for having large bezels or a bunch of sensors at the top of the screen. The white iPhones are have large bezels too and all those sensors at the top of the phone next to hear earpiece are straight up ugly IMO. But nobody says this about the iPhone...
I think the N6P blows the iPhone away in terms of style and premium feel. Just don't try to bend your 6P in half