Hi everybody! I'm using SS Galaxy S i9000! I like play game very much and i installed many games on it especially Dungeon Defenders (600 mb data OMG)! So my internal sd card's memory is too low (my device is 8 gb version)! I want you help me how to use data on external sd card! Thanks a lot!
If you are using Froyo, you can probably move the app to your microSD card. You need to check the preferences in the app to see if you can move the data to the microSD card. If you cannot move the data, then moving the app will give you very little benefit.
mpierce said:
If you are using Froyo, you can probably move the app to your microSD card. You need to check the preferences in the app to see if you can move the data to the microSD card. If you cannot move the data, then moving the app will give you very little benefit.
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I means the data of apps! It's like game HD gameloft with the location: /mmt/sd/gameloft and i want to change it to mmt/sd/external_sd/gameloft. If you play game HD gameloft you will understand
Also looking for an answer to this.
Hate it when idiots reply to threads when they have absolutely no idea.
I would love a reply for this.
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Is this what we do in android development?
Just an idea: convert internal and external SD cards to ext4 (external should be easy, internal would be tricker but I believe that someone did it on nexus s forum) and create symlink folder from external SD to internal SD card.
What they are talking about is game data that is supposed to be stored on the external sd (because /sd/ is not usually used for the internal storage except for the sgs devices because it's way bigger than on most androids).
A symlink should solve their problem. How to do that shouldn't be hard to find.
But it doesn't require ext4 conversion. Converting both to ext4 would require modifications of the startup script in order for them to not have to mount the individual partitions every time.
Edit: the internal and external sd are fat partitions by default and I would recommend keeping it that way. Anything else brings significant complications.
As far as I know FAT filesystem doesn't support symbolic links.
dyallo said:
Also looking for an answer to this.
Hate it when idiots reply to threads when they have absolutely no idea.
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I also hate idiots who post stupid questions in the Development section, and one of our opinions is supported by moderators. Guess whose it is.
Older Gameloft games allow you to specify where you want to install the game data. My Hawx game data is on the external SD. They seemed to have stopped supporting that though. Send them a email and see if there is a solution.
I'm also waiting for some kind of "symlink" tool!
Internal SD is too small for me...
I ran some searches on this topic when I also experienced low space left on the internal sd.
Apparently all those App2SD tools do not recognize the external sd card within the SGS when I tried them, I can only move the stuff to the internal card where the apps already are so no difference in regards to disk space.
Somewhere else I read you have to convert the sd to ext4 or something and do some other stuff to get this working.
Alternatively, it seems some custom ROMs support their own App2SD (never tested it, just read it somewhere), maybe it somehow works with those without using some ext4 solution, I don't know. Eventually I moved some videos (back from the days without an external sd) to the external sd and freed up space that way.
Concerning Ext4 - I also read that buzz.
But idea was - swapping internal and external SD, by modifying mounting sequence in kernel.
It's too complicated, and working solution was not founded yet.
My16GB is pretty much full so I was looking to move some games to my SDCARD only to find this isn't possible. It got me thinking I use a program on PC called Steam Mover which uses branching to move my most played games from my mechanical drive (containing my steam account and most games) to the SSD.
Could something like this work on our Android device? I'm in work now so can't try steam mover myself. I know its a windows program and commands but wasn't sure if it would work.
After reading this I opened up app 2 sd to see about moving some apps from the phone to my SD card. It shows a message saying "The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device." I have my old 8gig SD card in that I set up the camera to put the pictures on and with 32gigs on the phone I don't care to move apps at this time. I wonder why it is showing up as being emulated.
Sorry I don't have an answer for you.
Well thanks for trying anyway. Wish the 32gb was put when I got mine!
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Our tablet lacks the USB Mass Storage capability, also Note 2 lacks this also.
I have found this little gem app that works on Note 2, i hope that someone here will test this and report back.
It only works on external SD, but it is way better then MTP.
Here is the app thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
[UPDATE] It works very well, also with the SD card formated as exFat! :thumbup:
Thanks.
mdalacu said:
Our tablet lacks the USB Mass Storage capability, also Note 2 lacks this also.
I have found this little gem app that works on Note 2, i hope that someone here will test this and report back.
It only works on external SD, but it is way better then MTP.
Here is the app thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
Thanks.
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How is this better than MTP? I connect my Note and it shows up - I double click on it and it shows me a drive for the internal and external storage and you can drag file in and out of them. The only two issues are that when you copy some kinds of media, you get asked if you want to convert it - and on the Note, it runs an actual app to do the MTP. It's odd because other Android devices don't do that (even the Samsung Nexus doesn't).
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How is this better than MTP? I connect my Note and it shows up - I double click on it and it shows me a drive for the internal and external storage and you can drag file in and out of them. The only two issues are that when you copy some kinds of media, you get asked if you want to convert it - and on the Note, it runs an actual app to do the MTP. It's odd because other Android devices don't do that (even the Samsung Nexus doesn't).
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If you use other OSes then Windows you will notice the difference, it does not work reliable on Linux and Mac. MTP is slow , with UMS i get something about 20MB/s read/write. Also, if you have to modify a file then that file will first be downloaded locally on your PC, modified and the reuploaded instead of modify it on the phone. This is how MTP works.
I have used the app 10 times by now, no issues at all. I also checked the sd card with scan disk on win7, no corruption !
By the way, there's a good technical reason why modern Android devices don't do USB Mass Storage.
USB Mass Storage operates on an *entire partition* and needs *exclusive* access to that partition. So the phone needs to be able to totally *un-mount* the partition (stop using it entirely) which is to be mounted as USB Mass Storage.
Older devices like my Samsung Galaxy S2 had the built-in storage separately partitioned. The downside to this, however, was that app storage was on a small, limited partition so even though the phone had 16GB, apps were limited to a 2GB (or so) partition.
New devices have all data on one partition so the app data can expand as far as it needs to into your storage space, but it means that it's no longer possible to mount it over USB Mass Storage as you can no longer get exclusive access to a partition.
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By the way, there's a good technical reason why modern Android devices don't do USB Mass Storage.
USB Mass Storage operates on an *entire partition* and needs *exclusive* access to that partition. So the phone needs to be able to totally *un-mount* the partition (stop using it entirely) which is to be mounted as USB Mass Storage.
Older devices like my Samsung Galaxy S2 had the built-in storage separately partitioned. The downside to this, however, was that app storage was on a small, limited partition so even though the phone had 16GB, apps were limited to a 2GB (or so) partition.
New devices have all data on one partition so the app data can expand as far as it needs to into your storage space, but it means that it's no longer possible to mount it over USB Mass Storage as you can no longer get exclusive access to a partition.
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Wow that is an awesome explanation of the process. I personally have wondered for quite a while why new devices are this way, just never really bothered looking into it. Thanks.
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MercuryStar said:
By the way, there's a good technical reason why modern Android devices don't do USB Mass Storage.
USB Mass Storage operates on an *entire partition* and needs *exclusive* access to that partition. So the phone needs to be able to totally *un-mount* the partition (stop using it entirely) which is to be mounted as USB Mass Storage.
Older devices like my Samsung Galaxy S2 had the built-in storage separately partitioned. The downside to this, however, was that app storage was on a small, limited partition so even though the phone had 16GB, apps were limited to a 2GB (or so) partition.
New devices have all data on one partition so the app data can expand as far as it needs to into your storage space, but it means that it's no longer possible to mount it over USB Mass Storage as you can no longer get exclusive access to a partition.
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You are right about internal storage, but , this app only exports the External SD Card, which is formtated as FAT32 or ExFat. The app first unmounts the card from phone, export it through USB, then with the middle button, when you are done on PC (end ejected the card), will mount it right back.
This way you could check the SD card on the PC, copy large files very fast, directly modify files, works on linux and mac !
I have tested this on N8000 and it is working perfectly
mdalacu said:
Our tablet lacks the USB Mass Storage capability, also Note 2 lacks this also.
I have found this little gem app that works on Note 2, i hope that someone here will test this and report back.
It only works on external SD, but it is way better then MTP.
Here is the app thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
Thanks.
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Ah, this app. I posted about this in September in this thread lol: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32103479#post32103479
Sorry, I have missed it.
Great! Thank you! It works like a charm!
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Another weakness in MTP is that if you are in a locked down environment with no admin/privileges to install devices MTP will not be detected. (You'll get the same nonsense with iOS as well)
has anyone been able to get this working with a ps3. I would like to be able to transfer things to my ps3.
So, no method exists that would allow the Note 10.1 to connect as UMS to Windows XP? and/or without the use of the inserted MicroSD?
I installed KIES but it tried to install like 3 versions of Net Framework and other garbage, so I removed it. There is no way I will use the KIES. I tried to use the driver that Kies installed along with the SAMSUNG_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones.exe but no luck. I can't believe this is an issue.
I'm a bit of a novice with tablets/android and have searched a long time for a solution with no luck.
It only export the external sd card through UMS, the internal one it is impossible. For me, it works on XP x64 just fine.
Has anyone tried multi mount, i use it on my galaxy s to listen to music while i am mounted to the pc, works well but i think it a bit buggy cause i can't get my external sd card to mount but i don't know if that the rom cause it worked well on the previous rom, try it out multi mount
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mdalacu said:
It only export the external sd card through UMS, the internal one it is impossible. For me, it works on XP x64 just fine.
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OK. Thank you.
TheWerewolf said:
How is this better than MTP? I connect my Note and it shows up - I double click on it and it shows me a drive for the internal and external storage and you can drag file in and out of them...
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For example, how would you run a program like Recuva to scan for deleted files on my S3? Also, they say MTP i smuch slower.
critofur said:
For example, how would you run a program like Recuva to scan for deleted files on my S3? Also, they say MTP i smuch slower.
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For recovery of deleted files, you can use Undelete for Root users straight from your phone!
mdalacu said:
Our tablet lacks the USB Mass Storage capability, also Note 2 lacks this also.
I have found this little gem app that works on Note 2, i hope that someone here will test this and report back.
It only works on external SD, but it is way better then MTP.
Here is the app thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
Thanks.
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Thank You for posting this!!! I have been sick of playing a crap shoot when I connect my note to my computer!!! :victory:
Mass Storage availability would really make this phone complete for me. Is it that difficult? I have tried a bunch of other apps with no luck . I know Samsung wrote an App for their phones.
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Mass Storage availability would really make this phone complete for me. Is it that difficult? I have tried a bunch of other apps with no luck . I know Samsung wrote an App for their phones.
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No they did not. Some phones with external SD cards you can still access as UMS. No modern phone can you access the internal SD that way as the internal "sdcard" is just a subfolder of the /data partition. UMS requires the device to unmount from the phone to mount on the PC, and it just simply isn't going to work.
There are dozens of apps in the market to transfer files over wifi in various forms.. scp, smb, ftp, browser, etc..
Personally I use a scp server that will run as root so it can use port 22 and use rsync when I want to move large amounts of files around.
Danester said:
Mass Storage availability would really make this phone complete for me. Is it that difficult? I have tried a bunch of other apps with no luck . I know Samsung wrote an App for their phones.
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Why do you want to use mass storage so much? if it is to transfer files to a mac, download AFT here...http://www.android.com/filetransfer/
I My old htc and earlier phones with android had mass storage. The reason i want it so bad is that my car has ford sync and with ums through usb, i can verbally select tracks i want played without looking at the phone. Bluetooth works but i have to look down at the phone to change songs. Also with old versions of android i could get the stereo sync system to read back my texts and i could verbally send texts also. It was awesome. Iphones work perfectly but i hate iphone. Android worked until icecream sandwich. Its a huge loss for people with stereo systems that have verbal command control across all makes of cars.
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With HTC One X I could mount it from the recovery. But I guess G2 would not have that option. (One X doesn't have SD, it's internal memory like G2)
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No they did not. Some phones with external SD cards you can still access as UMS. No modern phone can you access the internal SD that way as the internal "sdcard" is just a subfolder of the /data partition. UMS requires the device to unmount from the phone to mount on the PC, and it just simply isn't going to work.
There are dozens of apps in the market to transfer files over wifi in various forms.. scp, smb, ftp, browser, etc..
Personally I use a scp server that will run as root so it can use port 22 and use rsync when I want to move large amounts of files around.
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There are phones that do not support mass storage, such Xperia S or U, but there were apps written by XDA members that allowed me to use mass storage. Why there is no such app for G2?
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I installed a game on my Verizon S5 (xcom enemy unknown.) Since its such a big game, I wanted to move it and run it from my SD card. But my phone will only move about 60mb of the 3.72gb of game data. How can I move all of it over to the SDcard? I only have 10.6gb of internal space available for applications and games... surely this cannot be right.
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I'm afraid that's as good as it gets without a custom ROM.
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xfullboost said:
I installed a game on my Verizon S5 (xcom enemy unknown.) Since its such a big game, I wanted to move it and run it from my SD card. But my phone will only move about 60mb of the 3.72gb of game data. How can I move all of it over to the SDcard? I only have 10.6gb of internal space available for applications and games... surely this cannot be right.
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You may be able to do it with an On The Go (OTG) adapter and an external USB drive (thumb drive). I have tried using an OTG and thumb drive and it worked like a charm, but I wasn't playing games.