Very close to buying - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Really close to going for this as my next handset but have a few questions.
I currently have an S2 and use Apex launcher instead of touchwiz. If i chose to use Apex instead of touchwiz would i lose any of the features such as the s pen and air view?
Thanks Neil

I use Apex and all is well.
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You won't lose any features because of Apex.
Flashing CM will make you lose custom features.
TLDR; No, all is fine.

I use Nova luncher and all the features are working very well,i think it's the same with Apex

So i could use it pretty much the same. Why should i choose it over the G2 or the upcoming nexus 5? Camera isn't the best apparently
Thanks Neil

TheFishmonger said:
So i could use it pretty much the same. Why should i choose it over the G2 or the upcoming nexus 5? Camera isn't the best apparently
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I might buy the Note 3 soon too. My problem with the G2 is that LG doesn't update its smartphones. The Nexus 5 might be difficult to buy when it launches (remember the nexus 4?) as far as I'm concerned I want a big screen, I don't like a ppi too high, and I want to doodle with the s-pen (as I used to with my note 1)

dexterxda said:
I might buy the Note 3 soon too. My problem with the G2 is that LG doesn't update its smartphones. The Nexus 5 might be difficult to buy when it launches (remember the nexus 4?) as far as I'm concerned I want a big screen, I don't like a ppi too high, and I want to doodle with the s-pen (as I used to with my note 1)
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Lg phones drop in value like a stone too which also puts me off. I also thought the same about availability of the Nexus 5.
I suppose it's not knowing what the Nexus is definitely like is putting me off getting the note. Never used a note either. Some decent deals out there for it right now.
I can get it for £36 a month on an 18 month contract with no upfront cost.

Camera isn't the best but its also far from the worst. It struggles a bit in low light but otherwise produces some great results.
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Get a cheap as chips nexus 4 as your work/professional phone and a note 3 on contract as your social phone, best of both worlds without breaking the bank always have the uptodate android for as long as n4 is supported, probably at least another 2 years judging by its spec and that 4.4 reduces resource consumption, and you have all the utilities and power of a note 3 that should get 2 or 3 years worth of slower updates too and won't be outdated by anything that has a rigid glass screen judging by how mobile tech is moving forward.
Hope this advice helps
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The additional features are not part of Touchwiz, they are a separate overlay on top of the launcher. Even if you remove Touchwiz completely, they remain untouched and functional.
I use Apex, too. Works perfectly. (Nova apparently crashes for people, have noticed no such thing on Apex.)

TheFishmonger said:
Lg phones drop in value like a stone too which also puts me off. I also thought the same about availability of the Nexus 5.
I suppose it's not knowing what the Nexus is definitely like is putting me off getting the note. Never used a note either. Some decent deals out there for it right now.
I can get it for £36 a month on an 18 month contract with no upfront cost.
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Seems like a good deal! I actually bought an Xperia Z1, saw it on dispaly, played a little with it and I was sold. I'll keep my old Note 1 to doodle

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Would you switch from Note2 to Nexus4?

I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
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I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
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I wouldn't have the note 2 in the first place. You could kill someone with the size of that phone
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I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
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I'm in the same boat. I only have 14 days to make my decision though. I really like the note 2, but I like the idea of not being on contract with T-Mobile hence my conundrum with Nexus 4. What are your thoughts?
Syirrus
F4M0U569 said:
I wouldn't have the note 2 in the first place. You could kill someone with the size of that phone
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Well true, because of its weight I find myself filling up more at the pump.
Syirrus said:
I'm in the same boat. I only have 14 days to make my decision though. I really like the note 2, but I like the idea of not being on contract with T-Mobile hence my conundrum with Nexus 4. What are your thoughts?
Syirrus
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I think the note's size is a little much but if moving to the Nexus4 would mean going backwards as far as performance I wouldnt be happy with that either. I may just end up getting the Nexus4 on top lol.
I don't ownt he Note 2 or plan to buy one. Ever. But if I bought one, it would have been because I wanted a screen that size so I wouldn't trade it for the Nexus 4.
I don't think so...
I have AT&T Note ii and I have Nexus 4 16GB on the way. But I am buying Nexus 4 just to see how it is and then give it to my dad in India. There are multiple reasons for sticking with Note ii.
1) Removable MicroSD slot
2) Awesome Battery Life and Removable Battery
3) LTE Speeds (I use team viewer a lot to help my family and friends with their PCs and I am youtube junkie. Also s-pen helps a lot with team viewer and gotomypc apps.)
4) Every custom UI has its drawbacks and its positives. I feel like TouchWiz has improved a lottt and it has amazing new features which I use a lot on Note ii, like smart stay,smart rotation, smart alert, direct call, turn over to mute, palm swipe to capture screen shot and many more...
5) S-Pen is just amazing feature. I love to note down things immediately and also taking notes in the meeting. I love playing draw something too. :silly:
6) Big size and screen is negative for someone, but for me, I just love the big screen. It can be cumbersome to use it with one hand sometimes, but rest of the times while watching youtube videos and pictures and browsing, the experience is just stellar.
I have nexus 7 and I gotta tell you, for my own test, stock android doesn't cut it. I have to do many extra things to customize it. Though, it is just my opinion. Plenty of people love the stock android.
I dont know why people keep comparing them, ones a tablet that makes calls and ones a phone
I sold off my Note 2 to get the Nexus 4.
The size of the Note didn't bother me too much, I was still able to carry/bring it everywhere like a regular phone. The problems I had with it mostly laid with Touchwiz. I've only owned Nexus devices, I've had every single one of them (even if I only kept the Gnex for 6 months. **** verizon). I just really didn't like the looks of it, it's not visually appealing at all. Then we get to the s-pen. It certainly is a cool feature, but I'm no artist, I rarely need to edit spreadsheets on a mobile device. So it was mostly going unused for me. Plus the cost, I would rather pay half the price of the Note to have a device thats still quite high end. The $710 pricetag of the Note (with tax) really put a dent in my fun moneys.
My overall experience with the Note just solidified that I'll likely never own a Samsung cell phone, unless they make another Nexus.
I already have
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Bleaumaglite said:
I sold off my Note 2 to get the Nexus 4.
The size of the Note didn't bother me too much, I was still able to carry/bring it everywhere like a regular phone. The problems I had with it mostly laid with Touchwiz. I've only owned Nexus devices, I've had every single one of them (even if I only kept the Gnex for 6 months. **** verizon). I just really didn't like the looks of it, it's not visually appealing at all. Then we get to the s-pen. It certainly is a cool feature, but I'm no artist, I rarely need to edit spreadsheets on a mobile device. So it was mostly going unused for me. Plus the cost, I would rather pay half the price of the Note to have a device thats still quite high end. The $710 pricetag of the Note (with tax) really put a dent in my fun moneys.
My overall experience with the Note just solidified that I'll likely never own a Samsung cell phone, unless they make another Nexus.
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If the note was unlocked I would keep it over the nex 4 any day... The nex 4 seems awesome but a note 2 is an amassing device.. Of I could get an unlocked one for around the same price I would love to get one..
Just curious, how much did you sell the note for and was it unlocked?
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Note II to a Nexus 4 would be a huge downgrade.
Problem with touchwiz? Unlock and install vanilla android on it and problem solved.
I could never give up my Note II the screen size is amazing, camera is amazing and there hasn't been any major issues that I have heard. I think the Nexus as amazing as it is isn't quite at the same level as the Note.
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Note II to a Nexus 4 would be a huge downgrade.
Problem with touchwiz? Unlock and install vanilla android on it and problem solved.
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Can you actually do that?! If so, please point at the thread!!!
I wouldn't. The quality of Note 2 is significantly better, components used are better, internal design is better and what you get with Nexus 4 is a slightly faster CPU (which is slower after it throttles down) and official vanilla Android. I mean, it's a great phone for its price that I'm considering getting but it's not as good as the Note 2 overall. If you don't care about timely updates to official Android for the next 2 years or so as much as about hardware quality I'd keep the Note 2.
i have both. the nexus 4 is a solid phone but doesnt compare with the note 2. the note 2 is quicker ( regardless of benchmarks), samsung have done a top job with this version of touchwiz & the screen quality seems more vivid plus the additional size makes everything a pleasure:good:
Not really amused by the Nexus 4, I want a Note 2 now.
I have n4 would rather had note II but didnt have note II money. Nexus is fast. Its one the the best phones out and great price.
I don't want a phablet, I was happy to give up using a stylus once capacitive screens came out and there is no way in hell I'd pay $600 for an android device. N4 is an easy choice and if I already had the Note II I'd sell it, buy a N4 and have $300 ready for next year when the N5 comes out.
600 dollars for a big piece of touchwiz plastic. No thank you. N4 is good for me and then some.
Already have..... I took it back after using it for 10 days, got me 2 nexus and $89 back.
I've been using my Nexus for a day already and I don't miss the note.
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Nexus 4 or Note 2 and why?

Im currently looking at both and just want to hear pros and cons like signal and any other issues all comments are much appreciated.
I own a Note 2, and just ordered the N4 for my wife, so I cant comment on the N4 yet. However, I believe it boils down to a handful of differences between them. They are both very, very smooth, very fast phones, so take that out of the equation.
1) Bigger vs smaller screen. I like the Note 2's ginormous screen.
2) Touchwiz vs JB as Google intended. I personally dont mind TW, and can always throw Nova on it if I get tired of it.
3) Updates. Samsung will take way longer obviously than Google. If you MUST have the newest right now, its a no brainer.
4) If using TMo, the Note 2 allows for WIFI calling. May be helpful to you.
5) S-Pen. A bit of a novelty, but kind of useful.
You missed the most important point: tablet-class battery. To borrow a car analogy, there's no replacement for displacement.
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You missed the most important point: tablet-class battery. To borrow a car analogy, there's no replacement for displacement.
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True, forgot about that. I can abuse the hell out of it and get 4+ screen time. Use it gingerly and approach 8.
I've owned both phones and honestly the Note 2 is great choice if you don't mind touchwiz and the larger size.
Note Pros:
It's gets more than double the battery life of the Nexus 4.
Beautiful, larger screen.
Touchwiz extras (wifi calling, multi-window mode, spen, gestures, etc)
Note Cons:
Slower rom development.
A bit too big to use one handed comfortably.
More expensive.
Bloated.
Nexus Pros:
WAY sexier and feels WAY better in hand.
Better development.
Half the price (unlocked)
No carrier bloat.
Nexus Cons:
Battery life not great compared to the note 2.
Speaker not as good.
The stock android on the N4 is nice and the screen size of the note is awesome. I think im leaning to the Nexus because of the Dev support keeps a phone new. Hows the call quality of both?
i'm in the same boat...i already have the n4 but i'm underwhelmed by it coming from the galaxy nexus. i know with the nexus you get the updates but custom roms like cm10 will come along for the note2. another big advantage for the note2 is the expandable storage. otg doesn't even work for the n4
I prefer the N4 as a PHONE, but as a more media-consumption-driven device, the Note 2 would beat it. The N4 is easier in-pocket and in-hand. The Note 2 would be better for reading, video, content creation.
Obviously, I chose the N4 over a Note 2. I prefer the smaller screen (and it's by no means small IMO), the pure or easily customizable Android (I had a Samsung phone before, TouchWiz can eat it), and the ability to jump to essentially any GSM network.
I have both. Initially i preferred my note 2 but now im used to the n4 screen, i much prefer it. To me, the note 2 screen doesnt seem as crisp as n4 & whilst the note w is fast, the n4 seems alot snappier in everyday use for myself.
Obviously watching youtube etc is great on the note 2 due to the real estate of the screen & i find the s pen relly handy & samsung did a cracking job of touchwiz on this device but ive grown to prefer the n4 as my daily driver & the note 2 is going on ebay this weekend!
Hope it helps.
Arguably the two best phones on the market right now. Its always a personal choice cause we all like different things on our phones but major pros of both phones are:
For nexus 4,
PRICE!!!! Pentaband, pure android, no bloatware and you get updates soon as its available. On top of that development is always great on nexus devices. Also more "portable" than note 2, and better screen. Both perform well without any lag so performance is pretty much even.
For Note 2,
INCREDIBLE BATTERY LIFE! I can't emphasize it enough, it truly is something else, ive never seen a smartphone perform so well in that area. More features, S pen has amazing things like air view, more storage, bigger screen means better for media consumption (movies, games blah blah) but size can be a con for some however when you go purchase the note 2 the size is obvious so there's no excuse to complain about it when its so obvious.
Bottom line is both phones are great, but honestly in a long run, a Nexus ALWAYS has the edge because of the support it gets. If you're like me, that does not matter a bit cause I switch smart phones more often than I go to the movies (and its not a joke ).
The galaxy nexus is still relevant to this day, it just received android 4.2.1 while for example, the galaxy s 2 is slowly becoming a retired phone.
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WVFAN1 said:
Im currently looking at both and just want to hear pros and cons like signal and any other issues all comments are much appreciated.
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imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
I still on the fence on this i had the 1st note and the galaxy nexus both were great. I dont have LTE in my area with AT&T yet so thats not really an issue so can i use the N4 as a dumb phone on at&t.
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imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
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Only dweebs and squares use cell phones for calls.
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atomo37 said:
imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
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Only dweebs and squares use cell phones for calls.
N4 has a better CPU/GPU and can be operated 1 handed plus it's pure google and has on screen buttons.
but the note 2 has cool touchwhiz features but it's bloated and too big for 1 handed use.
I have an S3, but have considered switching to the N4, I just cant find the motivation though... will the Quad Core give me that much of a real world NOTICEABLE speed difference? and why does the N4 appear to have a yellow tint to its screen? I also worry about potential quality issues.
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I have an S3, but have considered switching to the N4, I just cant find the motivation though... will the Quad Core give me that much of a real world NOTICEABLE speed difference? and why does the N4 appear to have a yellow tint to its screen? I also worry about potential quality issues.
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i believe that is temporary...just the glue drying - will go away in a week or so.
I came from an S3 and couldn't be happier. The phone does feel a bit faster than my S3 did. Battery life is about the same, the S3 might have been a little better. The only thing I miss about the S3 is the SD card slot, but Google music has me covered.
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I came from an S3 and couldn't be happier. The phone does feel a bit faster than my S3 did. Battery life is about the same, the S3 might have been a little better. The only thing I miss about the S3 is the SD card slot, but Google music has me covered.
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How is the screen size difference? is it real noticeable? and does Netflix, Youtube and videos in general Full Screen?
Is the Yellow Tint really just glue drying? that doesn't make much sense to me.
Between the 2 the Note 2 is easily a better phone. Being a media hog my self I love the huge screen and its beautiful. Also love the design.
Anybody having issues using the N4 on att non-smartphone plan can att tell the difference i really like not having to pay for another smartphone on my family plan.

Nexus 4 or ?

first thanks for giving me some of your time to share you experience
second i am getting my 1st android phone soon -isa-
so i suggested nexus 4 as i my android experince i trued alot of phones xperia arc s - SGY - Tablets running ICS - SG Ace + etc
my father suggested note 2 but i guess nexus 4 is more powerful in gaming (hardcore gaming) then i read about alot of CONs like lack of 4g which didn't matter of the non expanable memory which also didn't matter the camera isn't really good i tried to ignore it but the problem of the phone heat is what matters so Nexus 4 or Suggect a phone in the range of price the note 2 and the nexus 4 (the note 2 here costs about 535$ )
Go for it.
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If it'll be your first Android phone, I'd recommend the Nexus 4. You'll get the stock Android experience, have loads of customization and modding choices available, and get future Android updates first. Best part (imo) is that you can get the Nexus 4 for a reasonable price, up-front, and be carrier unlocked (usually carriers will either make you pay for the phone + $200 or so, or you'll pay an extra $100 or so over the course of a 2-year agreement plan; this is of course only the case if you can't get the phone straight from the manufacturer).
With any other non-Nexus device, you'll either have:
- OEM Skinned interface (usually lacking customization, and can even be more resource-hungry/battery draining)
- Slower or no updates (it's not unheard of for phones to release and never get updates to newer minor or major Android upgrades, or get them months later)
- Locked down environment (either carrier locked or bootloader locked, not be able to use any app you want (with T-Mobile for example, their branded phones can't use Google Wallet via legit means))
But non-Nexus devices aren't always bad either. OEM accessories are usually more plentiful on non-Nexus devices (take the Nexus 10 for example; we get a cover flap accessory months later after release, and that's it for official accessories; whereas Samsung probably has plenty of accessories for their actual Galaxy Tab lineup).
As for the Nexus 4's camera, I'm very impressed with it. To be fair though, I haven't really owned any "decent" camera prior to the Nexus 4 (had some webcams basically lol). The heat isn't really an issue either afaik (might be more of an issue with a completely stock device, but custom kernels allow you to undervolt and/or underclock).
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Go for it.
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espionage724 said:
If it'll be your first Android phone, I'd recommend the Nexus 4. You'll get the stock Android experience, have loads of customization and modding choices available, and get future Android updates first. Best part (imo) is that you can get the Nexus 4 for a reasonable price, up-front, and be carrier unlocked (usually carriers will either make you pay for the phone + $200 or so, or you'll pay an extra $100 or so over the course of a 2-year agreement plan; this is of course only the case if you can't get the phone straight from the manufacturer).
With any other non-Nexus device, you'll either have:
- OEM Skinned interface (usually lacking customization, and can even be more resource-hungry/battery draining)
- Slower or no updates (it's not unheard of for phones to release and never get updates to newer minor or major Android upgrades, or get them months later)
- Locked down environment (either carrier locked or bootloader locked, not be able to use any app you want (with T-Mobile for example, their branded phones can't use Google Wallet via legit means))
But non-Nexus devices aren't always bad either. OEM accessories are usually more plentiful on non-Nexus devices (take the Nexus 10 for example; we get a cover flap accessory months later after release, and that's it for official accessories; whereas Samsung probably has plenty of accessories for their actual Galaxy Tab lineup).
As for the Nexus 4's camera, I'm very impressed with it. To be fair though, I haven't really owned any "decent" camera prior to the Nexus 4 (had some webcams basically lol). The heat isn't really an issue either afaik (might be more of an issue with a completely stock device, but custom kernels allow you to undervolt and/or underclock).
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not really new cause i use android for more that a year and i can use odin or CMW etc
so with nexus 4 i can make more than Note II as for gaming ? cause iam really afraid about the heating problem and i don't go to a places which have weak signal here home it's always Full 3G on My E71 and else on Ryad KSA so .. if u used note 2 is it better and does the signal which make it hot and finally thanks for ur time
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not really new cause i use android for more that a year and i can use odin or CMW etc
so with nexus 4 i can make more than Note II as for gaming ? cause iam really afraid about the heating problem and i don't go to a places which have weak signal here home it's always Full 3G on My E71 and else on Ryad KSA so ..
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It all depends on what type of games you are trying to play. If you play games like Modern Combat, Batman, NOVA, and etc. Then more screen size would be ideal, even though the nexus 4 can handle those games with ease, it might just feel hotter because of the glass. Whereas, the Note 2 and 99.9% have either plastic or aluminum backs. A TPU case can help with the heat or any case at that. Just don't try to play the games for 2-3 hours with the GPU overclocked +100Mhz, that will not be wise.
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It all depends on what type of games you are trying to play. If you play games like Modern Combat, Batman, NOVA, and etc. Then more screen size would be ideal, even though the nexus 4 can handle those games with ease, it might just feel hotter because of the glass. Whereas, the Note 2 and 99.9% have either plastic or aluminum backs. A TPU case can help with the heat or any case at that. Just don't try to play the games for 2-3 hours with the GPU overclocked +100Mhz, that will not be wise.
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i don't know any thing about overclocking and i just now that n4 won't need overclocking or downclocking (or what ever it's callled ) except in saving battery and if the heat doesn't damage the hard ware i don't care so doesn't it damage the hardware and as u are a nexus 4 user would u call it The Superb Phone even over Samsung G Note 2 ?
Wait until the 15th to make a decision, google will make announcements. Just my 2 cents.
The N4 with it's S4 Pro is indeed more smoother than the Samsung S4 with a S600. Why because the OS is better optimised.
Whatever phone you get is down to you, I've been through phones with Sense and TouchWiz but once you go stock Android it's hard to use a skinned version. Nexus devices will always be up to date software wise compared to Non Nexus devices and they will have much longer support from Google and Devs for future releases.
Your money, your call, whatever phone you get you'll enjoy it.
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The N4 with it's S4 Pro is indeed more smoother than the Samsung S4 with a S600. Why because the OS is better optimised.
Whatever phone you get is down to you, I've been through phones with Sense and TouchWiz but once you go stock Android it's hard to use a skinned version. Nexus devices will always be up to date software wise compared to Non Nexus devices and they will have much longer support from Google and Devs for future releases.
Your money, your call, whatever phone you get you'll enjoy it.
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Hhhhhhh that's one of the best comments i've ever read but i wan't to ask u as a nexus 4 user do u enjoy it more than samsungs crap the s pen is why asked about note 2 but how long can u play with n4 in one charge ؟‎ ‎
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DaRkEMpRoR said:
Hhhhhhh that's one of the best comments i've ever read but i wan't to ask u as a nexus 4 user do u enjoy it more than samsungs crap the s pen is why asked about note 2 but how long can u play with n4 in one charge ؟‎ ‎
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I had the Note 2 and it suffered tinting issues and had crappy Pentile screen so I returned it. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely phone. Depends what you want with Nexus devices you have the latest stock software some find it boring some love it. With skinned versions you get extra features like airview etc on TouchWiz, however it takes longer for them to release newer versions of Android.
Battery is fine I run custom kernels and lasts me a whole day on WiFi can get over 5 hours screen on time playing some basic games and such.
It's fast and smooth hardly any lag, great development.
Only thing I dislike is the camera other than that I love it.
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I had the Note 2 and it suffered tinting issues and had crappy Pentile screen so I returned it. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely phone. Depends what you want with Nexus devices you have the latest stock software some find it boring some love it. With skinned versions you get extra features like airview etc on TouchWiz, however it takes longer for them to release newer versions of Android.
Battery is fine I run custom kernels and lasts me a whole day on WiFi can get over 5 hours screen on time playing some basic games and such.
It's fast and smooth hardly any lag, great development.
Only thing I dislike is the camera other than that I love it.
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really thanks so i guess i will buy nexus 4 cause a camera better than my e71 or asha 311 is fare enough for Me
and finally thanks for your time
I live in India as well and I purchased the Nexus 4 about 2 weeks ago - *just* missed the 303K revision and I got the 301K without the little feet added to the back to raise it up ever so slightly (check the S/N i.e. Serial Number). Apart from LTE (barely useful in 3 cities across India) and 32GB storage (depends on yours usage - 16GB with 12.95GB usable is enough for me) there haven't been rumours of other STOP-DON'T-BUY updates to it. If you can wait till next week, by all means, do that, otherwise the Nexus 4 is a great buy for now and a while to come.
On a side note: Personally I'm loving the phone, however 3G signal is a bit poor while roaming and that causes my battery to really drain, so I'm using a toggle to turn it on when I want. Though, I want to find a way to make a gesture do that instead, let's see.
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I live in India as well and I purchased the Nexus 4 about 2 weeks ago - *just* missed the 303K revision and I got the 301K without the little feet added to the back to raise it up ever so slightly (check the S/N i.e. Serial Number). Apart from LTE (barely useful in 3 cities across India) and 32GB storage (depends on yours usage - 16GB with 12.95GB usable is enough for me) there haven't been rumours of other STOP-DON'T-BUY updates to it. If you can wait till next week, by all means, do that, otherwise the Nexus 4 is a great buy for now and a while to come.
On a side note: Personally I'm loving the phone, however 3G signal is a bit poor while roaming and that causes my battery to really drain, so I'm using a toggle to turn it on when I want. Though, I want to find a way to make a gesture do that instead, let's see.
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i guess i will w8 and see what will they change
i don't know why every one one internet is telling me to choose note 2 but ian afraid that samsung doesn't release much updates as Nexus 4 or i will be disappointed by the battery or the s pen is very good the good screen iam really confused about my choise
Go play with them don't let other people influence your decision, go to a shop, try them out, get a feel for them, then enjoy.
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Go play with them don't let other people influence your decision, go to a shop, try them out, get a feel for them, then enjoy.
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what about your opinion i would really care of it as you are a note 2 and a nexus 4 user and i can't try any one of them cause i buy them online and my father need me to choose so i can get it when i travel to him
I love my Nexus 4 and I don't suffer from any of the problems that some people suffer from. Some people expect the PERFECT phone but It all depends on how anal you are about your stuff. I've played plenty of games and I haven't had any problems.
No problems with my N4 just pure fun Had it since November.
iam just saying that i can wait for another 3 or even 6 months if the New nexus 5 will be launched !
so do u think it 'll be launched before the end of this year
If you wait you'll always be waiting for the next best thing. New phones due out this year, new LG phone, Sony with a big camera, rumoured Motorola X Phone, Nexus 5, iPhone 5s, Galaxy Note 3, probably HTC One+ or HTC 5" screen, the you have the Chinese brands, Oppo, ZTE, Huawei. Probably what I've listed next new big things.
If your happy with your current phone wait until you are ready to buy otherwise if you want something now Nexus 4 at its price is a very good phone simply for stock Android and software updates.
The day you buy a new phone it becomes old and a successor or new beast will always be on its way.
The Note 2 was good but a little too big for my small hands, the camera is better on the Note than Nexus. Nexus wins purely for software updates, excellent development, and it's the smoothest Android phone I've ever had, running custom rom and kernel.
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N4 or Note II

I have a chance to exchange my N4 for Note II + $120 C on top of my phone. I don't know what to do. I would really like to have super amoled 5.5" screenn, SD card and stronger battery. The things I don't like is physical buttons, and not a Google phone (updates and freedom of Nexus phones). I have no idea what to do. Should I go for it. What you think? Please give me your opinion.
Do it. Use the $120 towards the N4 8gb.
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Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.
Before I got my Nexus, I was going to get the Note ll. Then I saw it up close, too big to fit in my pockets and a pain to hold. I ended getting the nexus 4, you can't beat it. I ended buying it unlocked because I don't want to sign another contract with ROBBERS. Great specs, great price, timely updates and stock Android.
It falls on the user though. Some people enjoy a huge phablet like a note ll. Depends what you are going to use it for.
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I never put my phone in the pants poked anyway. My hands can hold it normally, not to too big. Plastic look is bothering me I have to say that. Compare to N4 look Note II is like a toy. From other side Samsung device like Note II have no others to compare. What else you can take to have super amoled 5.5" screen and similar spec. Nothing really.
I've had both . The note is nice but i think its to big to be a phone for me . The removable battery is nice and I got over a SD slot a long time ago. So for me its N4 all the way .
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N4, nice solid phone, you can't go wrong go with it
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exactly...
I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.
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I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.
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I came from the Note n7000 as well. Used my phone in the same manner, as a mini PC. However, I wouldnt go back to the Note. It all depends on your needs for the phone. If you want a better camera and a media device due to the large screen. Then ya. However, if you prefer excellent battery life on a phone with a global community of great developers then stay with the n4.
PS remember Nexus 4 will get updates much faster than the note 2 and you wont get asked/mocked/ridiculed CONSTANTLY about having such a massive phone and explaining to others why you have it.
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Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.
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i gotta say though the note 2 is lacking in the "original development" area. there's lots of ports and touchwiz based roms but for an aosp, there's much to be desired.
cyanogenmod was onboard until relatively recently then it stopped. it's up to a few to really keep it up and so far, it's all been nightlies and no stable releases.
i just gave up my note 2 and had to come back to a nexus 4 because of the lack of support. gs3 or gs4 probably has proper support.
Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.
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Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.
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Is nexus reception that poor? I need to decide between those two phones. One big drawback for me is mali400 in note 2. I think that adreno 320 is more futureproof. Could you tell me about camera quality on nexus vs note 2? My brother has note 2 but unfortunately i dont know anyone with nexus 4 to compare them.
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Camera in note2 is far superior in focus IQ and speed. Low light images are better on the note 2. I also used to have one.
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Depends on your needs! For instance, a friend of mine is a designer, she loves NOTE2.
Thank you everyone. I will stay with my N4. I just can not stand physical buttons, cheap plastic and huge price differences. N4 is better device except sd card and smaller screen. The only thing I would like is 5.5" but everything else is step back for me. Not even mentioning the community for N4. So much stuff to choose between. With Note 2 after having N4 I will feel like having old device and stick with what I have. No way, not me...

Nexus 4 or GS4

I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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Depends on what you want. The downsides to the N4 are the camera, lack of expandable storage/removable battery and fragility of the glass back. Everything else on the N4 is a plus. The GS4 is better in most ways in terms of hardware but it feels awful in the hand and TouchWiz actually makes it lag despite having a Snapdragon 600. Personally, I'd choose the N4 since I don't feel there's anything on the GS4 that makes it worth hundreds of pounds/dollars more than the N4. It ultimately comes down to your own opinion though, nobody can decide for you.
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I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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It really depends on what your looking for. The Nexus is obviously easier to root and unlock the bootloader and such, but the S4 has better specs. i would get the HTC One
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I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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Galaxy s4 or HTC one. If you are going to root it and put a ROM from the Google play devices.
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I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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I've owned the gs4..just bought the n4 and to my surprise the n4 is faster and feels more fluent despite specs..it feels more premium..gs4 beats it everywhere else..
Granted the GS4 has better specs. My brother in law just got one on Verizon. Looks great, but the feel isn't as solid as the N4 IMO. Also no wireless charging is a negative for me at this point, because I bought a few of the wireless pads already lol.
N4 definitely feels more fluid and smooth. I feel like the n4 will "work" better than s4 in terms of development. But s4 beats it everywhere else. Speaking about n4 downfall.... I'm running out of space..Lol
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Get the s4 till you get bored of it, sell it and buy n4
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Girlfriends got a GS4.
I used to have a GS3.
Just recently moved to N4 after getting tired of turning all my Galaxy phones into nexii and i don't miss a thing about the S3. The only thing I can give to the S4 is the 13MP camera that its got on the back but other than that I'm Nexus all the way. Feels way more fluid plus Touchwiz is pure rubbish in my opinion. Even my girlfriend wants me to root her S4 after seeing my Nexus in action.
It's all about what's a dealbreaker for you. For me it was the screen, i got tired of the saturation on AMOLED screens where whites looked like blues and yellows compared to the N4.
Cheers
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I would either get GS4 GE or Mi 2S
Id get the gs4.. It has expandable storage, removable battery, better camera, screen plus its made of polycarbonate which is an amazing material. Processors also faster and alot of the samsung software is excellent. I used to hate touchwiz but nowadays it is actually a feature and not a con imho.
The N4 is cheaper though and as others have stated, it feels nice in the hand, is better looking and has wireless charging. For me however, GS4>N4 and i would trade my N4 for one any day if i could cover the difference.
Youll be happy with whichever one you get
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If money isn't an issue, get the s4. If it is an issue then I would get the nexus 4. regardless of the phone you choose, you will get an awesome android experience
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If you're getting it on contract and don't care for price i would recommend the gs4 just cause its newer and has better hardware but still the n4 is smoother as I've used both. If it were me I would get the one over both though or the one Google edition
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I am on S2. Found the N4 fm retailer at 360 euro and the S4 at 485 euro..
Should I go for the Nexus?
Appreciate insight..
p.s. my biggest concern is lack of expandable storage and nexus bugs as reported here in xda (S4 bugs too)
If I had the cash I'll definitely go for the S4, better in every aspect except updates. But looking at Sammy's update history, they are the fastest one second to Google.
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If I had the cash I'll definitely go for the S4, better in every aspect except updates. But looking at Sammy's update history, they are the fastest one second to Google.
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Or maybe I should stick with my S2 and wait for next nexus...
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Or maybe I should stick with my S2 and wait for next nexus...
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N4 for sure. It just feels great in the hands. I hate all the bells and whistles that the G4 comes with and would end up making it pure vanilla anyways. Unless they were the exact same price i wouldn't consider the G4. A lot of my storage is in the cloud and I save game saves on dropbox. Therefore i just uninstall games when i get bored with them. I don't see a use to having 300 apps installed just because you can and all my music is with google music so its all streaming.
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N4 for sure. It just feels great in the hands. I hate all the bells and whistles that the G4 comes with and would end up making it pure vanilla anyways. Unless they were the exact same price i wouldn't consider the G4. A lot of my storage is in the cloud and I save game saves on dropbox. Therefore i just uninstall games when i get bored with them. I don't see a use to having 300 apps installed just because you can and all my music is with google music so its all streaming.
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I second the "bells and whistles"! Same thing with my S2.. I ended up with custom rom (rootbox) - to avoid all the bloat - which is very close to stock android with some extra feats..
I believe I will take the plunge for Nexus 4 in the end.. A colleague of mine got it and is reaaaally fluid (he kept it stock-unrooted). And if you think abt it you may not even need rooting it at all..
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I second the "bells and whistles"! Same thing with my S2.. I ended up with custom rom (rootbox) - to avoid all the bloat - which is very close to stock android with some extra feats..
I believe I will take the plunge for Nexus 4 in the end.. A colleague of mine got it and is reaaaally fluid (he kept it stock-unrooted). And if you think abt it you may not even need rooting it at all..
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Even just stock kernel and rom rooted. I personally cannot live without root call blocker, root explorer, datasync and adaway. I only went with an AOKP ROM because I'm a tweaker.
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I second the "bells and whistles"! Same thing with my S2.. I ended up with custom rom (rootbox) - to avoid all the bloat - which is very close to stock android with some extra feats..
I believe I will take the plunge for Nexus 4 in the end.. A colleague of mine got it and is reaaaally fluid (he kept it stock-unrooted). And if you think abt it you may not even need rooting it at all..
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The N4 is awesome and youll be surprised how happy and comfortable it is on stock rooted or unrooted.
The next nexus should be out within 5 months so it really depends on how desperate you are for a new phone. The N4 is really nice but whats the N5. Who knows. with tech these days the next big thing is always around the corner, you can never catch it.

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