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[Simple Method] How to get OTA/Kies update on a Rooted phone

Well I am an average user but been using Droids for three years now. Anyway, lets come to the point.
◘ This is for the persons who can't stay unrooted (like me).
◘◘ This is for those persons who have rooted his/her device with Chainfire's OR Chenglu's method, can't say about any other recovery/custom kernel.
◘◘◘ And most importantly for those who DO NOT want to lose their data every time.
Just fyi, if you go in to Download mode/Odin mode (Vol Down+Home+Power), you will see two things there at the bottom saying,
CURRENT BINARY and
SYSTEM STATUS.
► Now if you want to receive OTA updates or via Kies you MUST see those two things stay as OFFICIAL. If you see one of them as Custom, whatever you do you WILL NOT receive any official OTA/Kies update. I've been trying to resolve this thing for last two days, but unsuccessful on all try, regardless of the matter that I unrooted, flashed Stock kernel back, used Triangle Away to reset counter and stay on Stock recovery, everything!
So what you need to do is pretty simple actually. You are rooted? Cool. No need to unroot and do lot of things. You just need to have the last official ROM of your country. And then you go on, open Odin and Flash it. So now you are automatically unrooted and most importantly both Binary and System status will now be OFFICIAL, and that's what you needed. So now turn on your device, check for OTA update, and it will pop up and be installed successfully. Same goes for Kies. So now you are updated. And you WILL NOT lose any data. Now go on and root again with your desired recovery/root method.
When you are NOT rooted and everything is Official you will see the below (Red marked circle) icon at status bar when you check for OTA update. This icon is very important actually, it means that you are connected to OTA server.
And when your phone is updated to the latest available software you will see this pop up.
But when you are rooted with Stock recovery you WILL NOT see that small icon on status bar and OTA update will keep saying 'Checking for updates' forever and it will never ultimately connect to OTA server.
And when you are rooted with Advanced recovery you'll see this,
Now you can obviously skip all these and just download the latest ROM. But then again the latest OTA updates are so tiny, for example the last update is just 12 MB, so will you download a 1 GB ROM for a 12 MB update? If you have a flying connection then kindly go ahead, I don't have so I gotta think about alternatives, like above.

jujuburi said:
But when you are rooted with Stock recovery you WILL NOT see that small icon on status bar and OTA update will keep saying 'Checking for updates' forever and it will never ultimately connect to OTA server.
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I was rooted with stock recovery, still i have got update of 12.4MB, and installed successfully too.Important thing is not 'root' but system status 'official'
Though i never prefer this method, 2 out of 10 time it mess up things. I have just did today to check weather i can get OTA or not, and it can preserve root or not.
If you want best performance and never want to carry old junks to new ROM,There is nothing better then flashing full ROM with PC odin (clean Install).

dr.ketan said:
I was rooted with stock recovery, still i have got update of 12.4MB, and installed successfully too.Important thing is not 'root' but system status 'official'
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But why it isn't happening for me
I am on Stock recovery too! and the System Status is never official unless I re-flash a full ROM!

Whenever post root(& reseting counter) i do wipe cache and data, it just bring status to 'official' for me.
Even this time mine system status is 'official' like before.

dr.ketan said:
Whenever post root(& reseting counter) i do wipe cache and data, it just bring status to 'official' for me.
Even this time mine status is official like before.
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Oh buddy, now I get it. You do a full wipe post root? Hmm! That removes everything from the device and I really don't wanna do. Can't miss all the imp things each time

I never miss anything, when i wake up in the morning my device is ever ready for wipe without worrying me lossing something, due to this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837984
Hardly it takes 15 min to get my data back, and for that it keeps my device clean

dr.ketan said:
I never miss anything, when i wake up in the morning my device is ever ready for wipe without worrying me lossing something, due to this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837984
Hardly it takes 15 min to get my data back, and for that it keeps my device clean
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Knew about Nandroid. But sadly TB gives me problem too often. Anyway I'll keep that in mind.

Not nndroid, nandroid just for emergency
I never have any issue with Titanium, yes one rule I keep in mind, never restore system junk.

dr.ketan said:
Whenever post root(& reseting counter) i do wipe cache and data, it just bring status to 'official' for me.
Even this time mine system status is 'official' like before.
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Hi there buddy
I also wiped data post root (cf auto root) and status in download mode was official but as soon as I restarted the mobile and rechecked the status in download mode it was set to custom with binary counter 0. Couldnt find a way to keep the status to official after the restart. Did u have any such issue???
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No i don't have such issue. It remains 'official'

dr.ketan said:
No i don't have such issue. It remains 'official'
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Hmmm... any idea what might b the issue. Tried to keep it official by doing fact reset twice to make sure that I didnt miss anything but didnt help.... any advise/idea?
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Using any mod?
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dr.ketan said:
Using any mod?
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Nope pure stock n below is what I did.
1. Flashed cf auto root through odin to gain root
2. Went to recovery n did clear cache n fact reset
3. Once booted, installed triangle away to reset counter
4. After boot, went to download mode to check the details. All was official with counter 0. Noticed that in about phone--> status it also showed normal till then.
5. Then restarted and about phone--> status was modified so went to download mode to check n there also status was custom....
Now do u think I did something wrong ? I dont mind fact resetting again if u can guide me through and identify my fault as I m home early from the bank tonight...
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You have reset before triangle away, which basically modify system. So I think you should wipe cache, wipe data, and again wipe cache (what you doing) after resting counter.
You can do it right now as you already have reset counter.
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dr.ketan said:
You have reset before triangle away, which basically modify system. So I think you should wipe cache, wipe data, and again wipe cache (what you doing) after resting counter.
You can do it right now as you already have reset counter.
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So if in the current state, if I fact reset now, will it be official again????
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Wipe cache and data from recover and again wipe cache from recovery.
It should be official except something messed up to your device.
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dr.ketan said:
I was rooted with stock recovery, still i have got update of 12.4MB, and installed successfully too.Important thing is not 'root' but system status 'official'
Though i never prefer this method, 2 out of 10 time it mess up things. I have just did today to check weather i can get OTA or not, and it can preserve root or not.
If you want best performance and never want to carry old junks to new ROM,There is nothing better then flashing full ROM with PC odin (clean Install).
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I am confused:
Obviously you are rooted, and (from your other threads) you use nandroid (and titanium) the former of which require CWM recovery. How are you on stock recovery?
Sitting there in its box is a n7100 I have not opened yet. Do you recommend as is out of the box flash it with pre-rooted stock? Will it be able to receive OTA's and work with Kies? I understand you do not like OTA's, in which case wait for the next pre-rooted stock and apply Titanium restore after flashing? If I choose to apply the OTA will I lose root? I understand there is an app OTARootKeeper...
Thanx doc! (colleague!)

I used Triangle Away today to reset counter and system status back to official and normal, worked just fine. I had OTA of about 73 M this morning and my ROM is ME6 ( UK BTU) dated 31/05/2013. Of course this removed root but I used cf autoroot via PC Odin. I didn't have the superSU app afterwards, but just downloaded it from Play store.
NB I ticked "Allow tracker to run" in Triangle Away.
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phochiom said:
I used Triangle Away today to reset counter and system status back to official and normal, worked just fine. I had OTA of about 73 M this morning and my ROM is ME6 ( UK BTU) dated 31/05/2013. Of course this removed root but I used cf autoroot via PC Odin. I didn't have the superSU app afterwards, but just downloaded it from Play store.
NB I ticked "Allow tracker to run" in Triangle Away.
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1. Is your bootloader normal too?
2. Strange, CF should have installed SuperSU, should it not?

drgkt said:
1. Is your bootloader normal too?
2. Strange, CF should have installed SuperSU, should it not?
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What do you mean by "normal" bootloader, now it's DME6 (was ALJ1 before update)
Yes strange, I had superSU before update, afterwards I rerooted with CF autoroot, the icon was there in app drawer, but when you launch the app it says no binary found and it can't download it. I just reinstalled it from Play store.
I think this happened to someone here on this forum, not sure if it was specifically on Note 2 forum.
Anyhow, the ROM is running just fine now, rooted and all Normal in status and 0 counter and official in download mode.

[Q] (Root not happening) S4 i9500 {4.3 - I9500XXUEMJ8} {CSC - INU} {How to root now?}

Hello developers.
I'm trying to reroot my phone after the latest 4.3 update via ODIN for my Indian handset.
I'm trying using CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and the it says PASS and the phone restarts normally as it should but the root is simply not happening.
there were 2 android 4.3 updates for my device and i installed the latest (you can see the post title for the exact version)
after everything completed properly i simply tried CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and nothing is happening.
Till 4.2.2, it got rooted properly without such or any other problems.
Kindly assist me out in getting my phone rooted.
Regards.

Here too
avineshwar said:
Hello developers.
I'm trying to reroot my phone after the latest 4.3 update via ODIN for my Indian handset.
I'm trying using CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and the it says PASS and the phone restarts normally as it should but the root is simply not happening.
there were 2 android 4.3 updates for my device and i installed the latest (you can see the post title for the exact version)
after everything completed properly i simply tried CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and nothing is happening.
Till 4.2.2, it got rooted properly without such or any other problems.
Kindly assist me out in getting my phone rooted.
Regards.
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Yep, I can´t re-root it again it seems the CF-Auto-Root-ja3g-ja3gxx-gti9500.tar its not working for the i9500XXUEMJ8 versión, well time to wait to an updated CF-Auto Root :crying::crying::crying:

I9500XXUEMJ5 root working (almost working)... i cant run some app, without root all apps working great ;/

Weird. I rooted using CF Auto Root after flashing 4.3 MJ8, it always worked! I never did OTA update though, always used Odin and full wipe.

avineshwar said:
Hello developers.
I'm trying to reroot my phone after the latest 4.3 update via ODIN for my Indian handset.
I'm trying using CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and the it says PASS and the phone restarts normally as it should but the root is simply not happening.
there were 2 android 4.3 updates for my device and i installed the latest (you can see the post title for the exact version)
after everything completed properly i simply tried CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and nothing is happening.
Till 4.2.2, it got rooted properly without such or any other problems.
Kindly assist me out in getting my phone rooted.
Regards.
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The rooting worked so far for me. Have you enabled KNOX? They enhanced the security features and as far as I heard KNOX-enabled devices can't get full root. Verify whether it is enabled or not. I'm not sure whether the user enables it or not but that may be the reason. I'm also not sure whether this KNOX security really affects I9500 models. I9505 models are definitely affected.

jujuburi said:
Weird. I rooted using CF Auto Root after flashing 4.3 MJ8, it always worked! I never did OTA update though, always used Odin and full wipe.
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Probably I never full wiped.
The apps and all other data is retained (normally all is retained when we update rom via odin).
Factory reset (full wipe) was never required earlier to get root to work.
Knox is not on from my side though I get some notifications always that some app tried to access something and Knox blocked that. But I guess that is something else because we need to manually activate Knox after opening the Knox app.
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kci83 said:
I9500XXUEMJ5 root working (almost working)... i cant run some app, without root all apps working great ;/
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It did worked for me too but only at times.
When I updated rom switcher app, root was gone and it never happened again!
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anyone with any solution for this?
anyone with any solution for this?

Solved!
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what was the solution? did you need to do a fullwipe? or used another method for rooting?
im on 4.2.2 MG9 and would like to update to 4.3 and have root without the know issue.
thanks.

Backup and Factory reset and cache clear after updating to 4.3
Then you'll get stock Samsung 4.3
Follow the same method to root (auto root) or alternatively flash super su via cwm/twrp/stock recovery.
resitm said:
what was the solution? did you need to do a fullwipe? or used another method for rooting?
im on 4.2.2 MG9 and would like to update to 4.3 and have root without the know issue.
thanks.
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avineshwar said:
Backup and Factory reset and cache clear after updating to 4.3
Then you'll get stock Samsung 4.3
Follow the same method to root (auto root) or alternatively flash super su via cwm/twrp/stock recovery.
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Thank you. Will this trip the knox thing?

After using CF-AUto root you need to update Super SU App on first boot.
Then Open SuperSU app and choose to install SU Binary without using a custom recovery.
Then reboot.
Then install Titanium backup pro and use it to free all Knox related files.
There are 7 of them and you need to remove all of them.
Remember you need to install a custom recovery to install busybox. (atleast in my case)
Install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2489234 via ODIN.
Once you are on custom recovery.
Use busybox installer to install busybox.
reboot.
You are done.

resitm said:
Thank you. Will this trip the knox thing?
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No mate.
Wait for a future update to trip that.
In the mean time, I'm trying to trip that since it isn't very difficult just lazy to try everything since everytime 1 thing fails, I need to restore the whole data and if takes much of my bandwidth.
Hope you understand.
And the device status will also remain custom.

P.S. Touchwiz UI from Samsung will hang on a later date due to some app compatibility issue (I'm not sure which app but I can tell a large set of apps and it will hang due to any one from that list) so it is preferred to shift to some other launcher on pre hand.
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thank you both avineshwar and ajhavery.
i really wanted to update but i guess i am going to wait for a while. lots of issues seem to be happening once rooted. also dont want to lose warranty with the knox thing.
it seems the custom roms such as arrow and crash also have sound issues, FC issues on some apps.
i guess ill wait and see. maybe once the nexus 5 is out i can sell the i9500 and get the nexus 5.

resitm said:
thank you both avineshwar and ajhavery.
i really wanted to update but i guess i am going to wait for a while. lots of issues seem to be happening once rooted. also dont want to lose warranty with the knox thing.
it seems the custom roms such as arrow and crash also have sound issues, FC issues on some apps.
i guess ill wait and see. maybe once the nexus 5 is out i can sell the i9500 and get the nexus 5.
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Waiting is good.
Don't sell your phone though (for obvious reasons).
You've got much to explore.
When it comes to selling, you'll get money whenever you do that so keep that option as your last bet.
Custom roms aren't really preferred from my side until you are a die hard modification fan!.
Rooting is the only problem (which is solved now I guess) on the latest firmware.
Rooting won't do any problem, believe me (except warranty).
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avineshwar said:
Waiting is good.
Don't sell your phone though (for obvious reasons).
You've got much to explore.
When it comes to selling, you'll get money whenever you do that so keep that option as your last bet.
Custom roms aren't really preferred from my side until you are a die hard modification fan!.
Rooting is the only problem (which is solved now I guess) on the latest firmware.
Rooting won't do any problem, believe me (except warranty).
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hello again, i am asking this question because i cant post in the development forum yet.
i downloaded 3 files from the OP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
the PDA, CSC and modem. all for MJ8, downloaded PDA is odex.
when i flashed 3 of the files with ODIN like shown in op my device. After i restarted i got errors for Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps .
i searched on google and did what was suggested, like clearing dalvik cache, resetting default apps, uninstalling the play store update etc.
the phone was unusable, the errors popedup every second.
I had to go back to the MG9 4.2.2 firmware.
What did i do wrong?
have you guys tried the method mentioned in the post. it prerooted and knox free 4.3 firmware.

resitm said:
hello again, i am asking this question because i cant post in the development forum yet.
i downloaded 3 files from the OP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
the PDA, CSC and modem. all for MJ8, downloaded PDA is odex.
when i flashed 3 of the files with ODIN like shown in op my device. After i restarted i got errors for Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps .
i searched on google and did what was suggested, like clearing dalvik cache, resetting default apps, uninstalling the play store update etc.
the phone was unusable, the errors popedup every second.
I had to go back to the MG9 4.2.2 firmware.
What did i do wrong?
have you guys tried the method mentioned in the post. it prerooted and knox free 4.3 firmware.
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Probably you want to upgrade to 4.3?
If so goto sammobile.com and find the latest firmware for your device from there, download and flash the same via odin.
You're now on 4.3!
Once done you can root from the auto root method by chain fire.
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avineshwar said:
Probably you want to upgrade to 4.3?
If so goto sammobile.com and find the latest firmware for your device from there, download and flash the same via odin.
You're now on 4.3!
Once done you can root from the auto root method by chain fire.
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that would be the easiest and best solution but i am worried about the knox issue, losing the warranty and also having to sell the phone later on for a lower price.

Completely unroot

Hi Guys,
I used one of the original samsung firmwares which was rooted the other day and it worked fine but i have since found stuff like Sky Go and Barclays banking wont work now because my phone is rooted. I have also noticed the knox is 0x1 now.
how do i go about reflashing it so its back to stock? I have tried flashing a original samsung file over the top but it still says binary type custom etc on it.

AFAIK, there's no wait to go back as of now.
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You need to wipe system/data in recovery. That should remove the custom status.

Lennyz1988 said:
You need to wipe system/data in recovery. That should remove the custom status.
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Unfortunately, from my own experience, wiping does not work. Custom status is referring to the binaries, not the data, hence wiping will affect nothing.
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AndrewJB88 said:
Hi Guys,
I used one of the original samsung firmwares which was rooted the other day and it worked fine but i have since found stuff like Sky Go and Barclays banking wont work now because my phone is rooted. I have also noticed the knox is 0x1 now.
how do i go about reflashing it so its back to stock? I have tried flashing a original samsung file over the top but it still says binary type custom etc on it.
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It`s a good question. I don`t thing it´s possible to remove the "flag", but you can read about it if you search google for: "wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/"
splix.mac
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Or, it might do?
Search the forum for this:
"Downgrade from last firmware with Knox warranty SOLVED!!!!!"
- Splix.mac

I have sorted this now.
1.Installed rooted rom again.
2. Used triangle away to reset it all
3. flashed original samsung file back over the top
Everything is back to normal apart from knox 0x1

How i restore orginal firmware with warranty?

hi, i want get back orginal firmware with official status?
i updated that firmware with odin.. but phone still says that custom?
and if i try to get updates, it says that device is modified?
is there any fix for this? thanks.

There is no way you can get your warranty back now as I assume you have triggered knox.
You can try factory reset to get the official status and get ota updates.
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Maybe theres a solution
I am not sure, but I returned my warrenty by flashing back to stock rom. It doesnt say custom. Be sure to delete data and cache before you flash another rom.
1) Download Odin 1.85v
2) Downlaod your stock rom from here samfirmware.com
2b) Extract it till you see a tar.md5 file
3) Put your phone in download mode.
4) Open Odin
5) Press PDA
6) Navigate to the tar.md5, select it
7) Then press start.

la2o said:
I am not sure, but I returned my warrenty by flashing back to stock rom. It doesnt say custom. Be sure to delete data and cache before you flash another rom.
1) Download Odin 1.85v
2) Downlaod your stock rom from here samfirmware.com
2b) Extract it till you see a tar.md5 file
3) Put your phone in download mode.
4) Open Odin
5) Press PDA
6) Navigate to the tar.md5, select it
7) Then press start.
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Official status doesn't mean that you have warranty. If you ever flashed something custom then you would have triggered knox. If knox gets triggered, you loose warranty permanently as knox counter can't be reset on i9500 till date.
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Ah I see.
Sorry for the wrong information then. They would still fix my phone, even if Knox is triggered.

la2o said:
Sorry for the wrong information then. They would still fix my phone, even if Knox is triggered.
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They are not supposed to fix ur phone if knox is triggered but some people don't take trouble to see the knox if it is an easy fix for them.
So if you have a minor problem then most probably they will fix it but if it is a major one then you are in trouble
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maxsam4 said:
They are not supposed to fix ur phone if knox is triggered but some people don't take trouble to see the knox if it is an easy fix for them.
So if you have a minor problem then most probably they will fix it but if it is a major one then you are in trouble
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Yeah, that's true. 2 days ago, I hard bricked my galaxy s4 gt19500. They told me to fix it, you must change the motherboard. Luckily, I managed to fix it by myself.

[Q] device status : custom

how can i fix this?
i think the xposed modules messed up my rom and now ive lost my root because i updated my firmware to XXUGNG4,
my counters are still 0x0,
but my device status says its custom even though im on stock odexed rom,
is it possible to fix this w/o odin?
because i dont have a p.c,
and if flash a fresh stock rom will my device status change to official?
and what are the chances of triping my counters?

wipe data/cache in the stock recovery.

wanam xposed also has the option to fake your status to "official", dont know whether it works though.

Lennyz1988 said:
wipe data/cache in the stock recovery.
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i tried that but sadly it still says custom and eventhough i uninstaled the modules the mods still sticks with the apps,
like the exit button on the browser and the silent shutter sound of the cam,

eprov said:
wanam xposed also has the option to fake your status to "official", dont know whether it works though.
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yes it does have that option but i lost my root bcoz i updated my os,

switchblade00 said:
i tried that but sadly it still says custom and eventhough i uninstaled the modules the mods still sticks with the apps,
like the exit button on the browser and the silent shutter sound of the cam,
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Factory reset and anything wont work to make it official. If that would have been the method, why was triangle away introduced. :/
Nothing will hapoen till you get your root access.
Obtain root access, try wanam, because triangle away does not work for i9500.
Can try reflashing the stock rom, it might be of little use though.
Till you get yourself root, nothing good can happen...
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DeepankarS said:
Factory reset and anything wont work to make it official. If that would have been the method, why was triangle away introduced. :/
Nothing will hapoen till you get your root access.
Obtain root access, try wanam, because triangle away does not work for i9500.
Can try reflashing the stock rom, it might be of little use though.
Till you get yourself root, nothing good can happen...
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Finally i found the way to fix it...
Flashed a fresh stock rom using odin...

Cool
Thank me if I helped
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