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of the reviews i read, a lot of them said that video support was hit or miss, presumably on the stock video player. on my phone i use rockplayer, it can play everything i throw at it, without having to encode.
is rockplayer in the tablet market or can you sideload it?
if so, does it scale properly, and can it play most anything?
I played a few AVI's with no issue. Haven't tested mp4's, though I think the native player handles those.
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of the reviews i read, a lot of them said that video support was hit or miss, presumably on the stock video player. on my phone i use rockplayer, it can play everything i throw at it, without having to encode.
is rockplayer in the tablet market or can you sideload it?
if so, does it scale properly, and can it play most anything?
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Downloaded fine for me, was really choppy so I enabled hardware decoding in the settings of rockplayer which made the video extremely smooth but the audio didn't work. I know it works fine on my computer in vlc. it was 720p MKV, high quality encode. That was all I tried, it didn't play the avi. Though I played an avi in another program and it played fine. But I assume since Rockplayer was able to play the video fine with hardware decoding enabled it should work good, not sure why the audio didn't work... could have just that one mkv but thats all I have tried.
laaaavely.
i don't have too many mkvs, mostly avis, so yay.
The only thing I don't like is the inability to play high profile h.264 video and all my video is high profile.
There is no reason Tegra 2 shouldn't be able to play videos that my 3rd gen iPod Touch can handle without breaking a sweat.
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I played a few AVI's with no issue. Haven't tested mp4's, though I think the native player handles those.
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I read all the comments about the bad quality, and them tried AVI on rocketplayer and it looks amazing. the only problem I'm running into is the volume not being able to change.
I am not having any issues really playing movies with either the native player or Rockplayer. Though, most of mine are MP4 files.
If you bump into file type issues where you have one kind that works great, but another that does not I would recommend Tunebite. It can take any video and make anything out of it... as long as your PC can play it, it can convert it. DRM junk included.
I used to have an iPhone (hangs head in shame) and had taken a few movies from Blu Rays download copy thing and put them into iTunes (hangs head again in shame). When I went to Android (stands ups proudly) I needed to bring them over. So, Tunebite to the rescue.
-Loc
If you can't play a video on the Xoom, follow these instructions. Has worked 100% of the time for me using the Xoom stock player:
http://www.gigadroid.com/androidtalk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21
Well yeah that's transcoding the videos. Of course that works - it lowers the bit rate and takes hours to do. Its really sad that a 2 core CPU and a 8 corr gpu can't decode high profile 720p video. I can't get the zoom to play anything my Streak can't. Pretty sad and disappointed now. Some how the notion ink adam can though.
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Hi all,
I've had my new Thrive for about a week, and have had no success in getting imported movie files to play without being slightly jerky, especially during scenes with some panning. I realize the Tegra chipset has to use baseline encoding, so I've used Handbrake with all the advanced settings off for H.264 / 720p with no luck. I tried decreasing quality / bitrate, even took a shot at an H.263 encode, same issue. Sadly enough, I've even downsized the video to 480p, and the issue is mostly gone, but it's stil there if you're looking for it. Having about given up with encoding, I tried some HD YouTube movie trailers and have noticed the same studdering / jerkyness when it plays back scenes with some panning.
I believe I have all the updates, it's the first thing I checked for when I got online.
Some posts that I have run across mention trying to disable the video enhancement capability, which I've done, but no change.
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. (???)
Thanks for any input!
Yes I have the same problem. Even videos I take with the camera on it does the same thing. Every video regardless of quality or format jitters and plays very weird and not smooth.
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Hi all,
I've had my new Thrive for about a week, and have had no success in getting imported movie files to play without being slightly jerky, especially during scenes with some panning. I realize the Tegra chipset has to use baseline encoding, so I've used Handbrake with all the advanced settings off for H.264 / 720p with no luck. I tried decreasing quality / bitrate, even took a shot at an H.263 encode, same issue. Sadly enough, I've even downsized the video to 480p, and the issue is mostly gone, but it's stil there if you're looking for it. Having about given up with encoding, I tried some HD YouTube movie trailers and have noticed the same studdering / jerkyness when it plays back scenes with some panning.
I believe I have all the updates, it's the first thing I checked for when I got online.
Some posts that I have run across mention trying to disable the video enhancement capability, which I've done, but no change.
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. (???)
Thanks for any input!
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I watch alot of videos on my Thrive and can say I encountered this once when I first got it when watching YouTube videos while mirroring on an led tv. However then I updated my Thrive and it went away and I never saw the problem again. So perhaps check is your updated or restart your Thrive?
I watch my videos from the SD card and am using a class 10 so perhaps if your watching movies from a lower class SD card you should transfer them to the onboard storage? I also stream anime from animehere.com and do not have any problems there either.
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I'm an idiot, I didnt see that you think you have all the updates, this is baffeling.
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Yeah I also get that. The movie plays fine & the audio is in sync just when the camera starts to pan it seems like the screen is jerking or stuttering ever so slightly. I've tried AVS, Handbreak, DVD Catalyst & Xilisoft. Multiple times with multiple movies & profiles. Seems like this Tegra 2 might have been a bad choice for processors. The same 720p movies play just fine on my Evo 3D. Hopefully Nvidia comes out with a update that fixes this as I have read that all of the tablets with the Tegra in it suffer from the same problem. A huge FAIL on Nvidia's part IMO. Whats the sense of having a tablet with a 720p screen but you can't watch movies smoothly.
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Yo, I'm not sure whether 720p works completely fine though but for any other res under that either VPlayer or Mobo seem to be able to play them relatively well.
Over the last month I've experimented with the Thrive and an Asus Transformer. Both have had the same jerky playback issues with my encoded videos, with the built in Honeycomb player. A resolution I've found for playing back my MP4 files is Dice Player, it seems to have gotten rid of the stuttering issue on both devices. YouTube is still a mixed bag, most low quality videos play fine, but the HD stuff will still have issues from time to time. I read somewhere that Dice Player has it's own system / codec files that bypass the built in files provided by Nvidia for the default Honeycomb player, I'm guessing that may be the issue...
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Over the last month I've experimented with the Thrive and an Asus Transformer. Both have had the same jerky playback issues with my encoded videos, with the built in Honeycomb player. A resolution I've found for playing back my MP4 files is Dice Player, it seems to have gotten rid of the stuttering issue on both devices. YouTube is still a mixed bag, most low quality videos play fine, but the HD stuff will still have issues from time to time. I read somewhere that Dice Player has it's own system / codec files that bypass the built in files provided by Nvidia for the default Honeycomb player, I'm guessing that may be the issue...
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Have you tried without the Video Enhancement thing? Seems that turning it off helps quite a bit.
I'm trying to play a .mkv file on my Nexus 7 with MX Player and there's no sound! Is anyone else experiencing this?
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I'm trying to play a .mkv file on my Nexus 7 with MX Player and there's no sound! Is anyone else experiencing this?
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I got the same thing. It might be related to the audio codec? The file I was playing is dts
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DTS support was removed. BS player plays DTS audio mkvs fine.
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I just bought BSplayer... it is awesome
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vPlayer will play the AC5.1 channel fine, and is free..
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I'm trying to play a .mkv file on my Nexus 7 with MX Player and there's no sound! Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Some mkv's have multiple audio channels, click on the musical note icon in the upper right while playing your video to try another channel.
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I'm trying to play a .mkv file on my Nexus 7 with MX Player and there's no sound! Is anyone else experiencing this?
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same issue here, playback is uber smooth, but yeah no audio.
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vPlayer will play the AC5.1 channel fine, and is free..
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It's not, it's just 7 day trial that's free.
Count me into the list. Tried watching one of my Breaking Bad MKV's last night. No sound. Been using BS player since then. Works great!
I know this is a Nexus 7 thread but I was plagued with the same issue with my Samsung Galaxy S2. I have always used a TouchWiz based ROM whether it was official or a custom ROM as it comes with great video codec support so pretty much any video player app would play anything I threw at it. However, I have recently moved to a non-TouchWiz ROM as I wanted the Jelly Bean goodness. The only problem with this is that my favourite video player app would no longer play my video files. I tried some of the popular video player apps that do software decoding (MX Player, Vplayer) but they all had issues. MX Player wouldn't play audio and VPlayer's video was stuttery and audio/video was out of sync. I was about to give up hope and considered moving back to a TouchWiz ROM even if that meant going back to ICS but then I read this thread and gave BS Player a go. I'm so glad I did as my videos play awesomely perfect again.
I'm not sure what BS Player does differently. It seems to say I am using hardware decoding (BS Player engine) but whatever, it is working great and I love the feature to be able to speed up the video along with audio. Watching some stuff that is fairly slow paced on 130% is a great time saver and hardly makes a difference to viewing experience (depends on what you watch though).
Anyway, just wanted to convey my experiences and hopefully help someone else out in future.
I watch a lot of animes, and many animes these days are encoded using 10-bit H.264 (Hi10P).
720p 10-bit is very laggy on my galaxy S3 when using MX player. Can someone test it on galaxy S4 and tell me if it handles ? Also, please use mx player which can be downloaded for free from google play
Also, keep in mind the S4 sold in my country is GT-I9500 which uses samsung exynos processor
Did you try with VLC ?? (I don't know if it runs better with VLC, just asking)
VLC uses the same decoding libs and the performance wouldn't be much better.
10bit can only be decoded in software right now so you simply need more CPU power (and the GS4 might have enough power).
I'm quite curious if 720p 10bit can be decoded myself.
I'm curious about this as well, apparently S4 uses the same GPU as iPhone 5 which plays 10 bit videos flawlessly with no lag at all. Can anyone confirm about this?
Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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roninep said:
Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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soraxd said:
I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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good to know that, is it smooth? :laugh:
Can you check whether 720p is still out of sync
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
silversun92 said:
Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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I did run it with MX Player first. If you go back a couple posts I used that first for silversun92. You are right and it ran very well. I did have to change it to S/W, but after that it worked without any problems. Silversun92 asked me about the stock player, so I tried that next and it didnt work. Sound did but video did not. Can anything correct that?
FWIW, I also ran it with BSPlayer (which I like and use). It seemed to run slightly jittery, but it automatically showed subtitles which MX didnt when I ran it. That might just be a setting issue though. Regardless, I think MX ran better than BS.
Is there anything else that you all need tested ?
anyone know how to get DTS video to work on S4? I have 1080p mkv videos with DTS audio, but it wont work at S4 video player.. there is no sound
@ben3003
DTS only works in H/W+ mode afaik. (Testing with MX Player) on S4 this is a ARMv7 Neon FFMPEG custom distribution example
I find that the experience for 720p 10bit playback is not yet satisfactory. But the device may be capable of more due to its unique hardware support (HEVC). I think we can expect improvements to playback in future.
As @maroon1 mentioned Archos Player is almost satisfactory experience with 720p hi10p playback (I believe this is software rendering) however it lacks the Styled subtitle support that I have grown to love MX Player for. I can get over this lol but would be nice to have in future.
So you guys disagree on the results....
So, @roninep you say that 720p 10-bit mkvs played smoothly with MX Player on your S4, but @sh4z you say it wasn't satisfactory? Would both of you mind posting a short ~5 minute video clip of your results for comparison please?
I'm debating on buying an S4, since I watch a lot of video on my phone. Currently I have to manually re-encode (with handbrake) all my videos and anime from 10-bit to 8-bit before I put them on my phone, so a phone that plays 10-bit and saves me this extra step would be great!
Thank you for confirming!!
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I made two videos to compare MX Player and Archos Player on GT-I9505 S4.
I pretty much agree with @maroon1, I think Archos is the smoothest so far out of the players I've tried. MX Player has better subtitle support so If it's not 10bit I would use that.
Same video is used no special optimizations default settings. Streaming over WiFi G. (Plenty of bandwidth for 720p) @roninep might have a GT-I9500... Haven't tested MX Player on that yet. Will give it a go tomorrow. Maybe its okay with that device.
MX Player
https://vimeo.com/67198798
Archos Player
https://vimeo.com/67198799
Apologies in advance these videos are a bit blurry at some points as they were taken by my Galaxy S GT-I9000. It doesn't know what to focus on lol. Anyway the frame rate I think is visible enough in each example (I think that's what is important right ?)
Some other 720p 10bit mkv Tests (In Reverse Order *worst first*)
1. Mobo Video Player constantly played intrusive ad's and crashed when attempting to playback,dumped that like a **** ...
2. VLC Does not play properly v.choppy got about 3 frames out of it (It's beta after all and may kill your kittens (lol wtf vlc thats the warning you get when running the first time )) audio came through okay.
3. QQ Player was worse than Mobo Player laggy video and out of sync audio, did not properly understand styled subtitles and output incorrectly.
4. VPlayer - Constantly playing catch-up (video; fast,slow,fast,slow)- Subtitles displaying correctly at beginning but then later disappeared
5. MoboPlayer (Audio playback no video on H/W) Software playback was good but artifacting (think twice compressed jpeg, probably just not proper 10bit support) faster than MX but archos is better(faster no artifacts), subs displayed correctly but not styled
Any others people have tried that are good let us know! its useful. Cheers :good:
Thank you @sh4z for posting the videos! And you're right, framerate was what I was wondering about! And coincidentally, I'm currently using an I9000, want to upgrade to the I9500. And yeah, I currently use MX Player for everything, including those animes I convert from 10 to 8 bit.
Before I forget and go on, @sh4z how did you get the fps to show in the topright corner on MX Player? I couldn't find it as a menu option in MX Player...
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So it seems that MX Player framerate is watchable, but when compared to Archos player, Archos is much more enjoyable. Hopefully MX Player's dev will be able to improve his codec! (with MX Player having much better .ass subtitle support)
It's good that you pointed out you tested on the I9505, I had forgotten about the different chipsets. From a few places I read around, I've heard rumours that perhaps the I9500 with its Exynos 5 Cortex A15 will perform much better than the I9505's Qualcomm Krait 300.
Just looking at their comparison on Wikipedia's page for the Krait CPU, it appears (at least on the surface) that the I9500's Exynos 5 should do better? Hope we find out later!
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Hopefully, we will soon get an android device + app combination that rivals the iPhone 5 in terms of playing 10 bit videos.
For reference: From what was said on Animesuki's forum thread "iPhone 5 and 10-bit MKVs" , there's a video that proves that iPhone 5 with "HD MKV Player" app can easily handle 10 bit videos.
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I had tested some of those other players on my I9000 too, and I agree that MoboPlayer probably performs best out of them, in terms of framerate. Like you said, it's too bad that it artifacts on colours and doesn't fully support .ass styling.
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From his signature, I'd caution a guess that @roninep has the North American I9505 like you do, so no Exynos core. If anyone else here has an I9500 would you mind testing this out please? Thanks in advance!
I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
psycovirus said:
I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
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@psycovirus thanks for testing! Would you say the performance was about the same or better than the video sh4z posted with MX Player on I9505?
And yeah, it's unfortunate but expected that the CPU would heat up since it's all software decoding.... I don't think any consumer hardware will get hardware accelerated h.264 hi10p, especially with the release of h.265 "HEVC".
i am planning to buy the s5 but I have read a lot of issue concerning video playback? some codecs are missing and a lot of videos do not play on the s5? is there solution?
yeahman45 said:
i am planning to buy the s5 but I have read a lot of issue concerning video playback? some codecs are missing and a lot of videos do not play on the s5? is there solution?
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Yup, MX Player (Pro) is the best videplayer in Play imo and can play 99% of all excisting formats or look here http://www.hdformatconverter.com/galaxy-s5-supported-format-best-video-format-for-galaxy-s5/.
how are videos playback on mx player ? software or hardware playback?
edit: and I don't want to convert my videos to play it on my phone... my old htc desire is able to play all videos formats I can imagine (except some full HD highly compressed vids)
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how are videos playback on mx player ? software or hardware playback?
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Both, you can choose either.
so hardware video playback works for 99% of all videos you have tried?
yeahman45 said:
so hardware video playback works for 99% of all videos you have tried?
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Look here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.pro&hl=nl and an additional codec pack will be installed if need be. Off course i didn`t try 99% of all formats. i haven`t seen a format i use that cannot be played however.
Mxplayer is nice but the ads suck. And there's no way I'm paying for a pro version when there are free and opensource alternatives. Switched to VLC and now I can watch pirated movies with no ads for free :good:
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Mx is nice but the ads suck. Switched to VLC and now I can watch pirated movies with no ads :good:
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Not if you buy the Pro version and we don`t talk about warez or cracks on XDA
i was asking about hardware playback as software playback i think uses more cpu/hence more battery. If it's hardware playback then that's fine! I am using mx player on my htc desire anyway and i am used to it.
edit: i was afraid that other third party video players were not able to play on the s5 because of the codecs missing