It appears you can only put icons on the lock screen if the security for the lock screen is set to "swipe" only. I wanted to have instant access to my camera app but still use a pin for my lock screen. How can I do this? If it is a third party app, then which app?
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Prevous Owner/Hacker of... numerous other devices!
I would like to know also.
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It's stupid.
I have a pin lock but cant put a camera shortcut.
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It's stupid.
I have a pin lock but cant put a camera shortcut.
Not.
Because security is pointless if you have a shortcut that bypasses that security.
ShadowLea said:
Not.
Because security is pointless if you have a shortcut that bypasses that security.
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Not really.
On the iPhone, you can enter the camera from the pin lock screen with a simple click on the camera.
It allows you to to only take photos. You can't enter into the photo album like you can normally this way.
You're only allowed to take photos, to do anything else you need to enter the pin.
This is perfect. Sometimes I want a quick photo without the hassle of entering my pin, then navigating to camera...
I agree. There must be a third party locker that can accommodate this...
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On the S3 you can check a dialoge box that adds a swipe-to-unlock-like screen, even if you have pin- or password-lock.
E.g. you grab your phone, press home or power, have your five shortcuts at the bottom and can swipe to activate them. The app loads in the background while you still must enter your password.
Isn't there something similar buried in the Note 3 settings?
I have found no such thing in the settings unfortunately, plus the PIN input pad is always showing when you turn the screen on, ruining my wallpaper. Argh.
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ShadowLea said:
Not.
Because security is pointless if you have a shortcut that bypasses that security.
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Hogwash. This justification only makes sense if it is impossible to set up the phone without a security keyguard.
Since Samsung enables lockscreen information to be displayed only if the user chooses no keyguard, they're simply encouraging people to leave their devices completely unsecured. This "all or nothing" approach is not a defensible security philosophy, it's just plain stupid.
And as already stated, there's no reason why information accessed via a locked screen can't be selective, and configurable based on what the user determines to be sensitive information.
barnabydog said:
And as already stated, there's no reason why information accessed via a locked screen can't be selective, and configurable based on what the user determines to be sensitive information.
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Except for the bit where Apple has a patent on that.
Which patent lays claim to widgets on a secured device? No. 8,528,072 was issued barely six weeks ago, and seems gesture specific (not that anything is specific in the US Patent system).
Regardless, patent infringement is a separate issue from what is or isn't sound security practice on a mobile device.
barnabydog said:
Which patent lays claim to widgets on a secured device? No. 8,528,072 was issued barely six weeks ago, and seems gesture specific (not that anything is specific in the US Patent system).
Regardless, patent infringement is a separate issue from what is or isn't sound security practice on a mobile device.
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We were discussing why it wasn't there, not whether it is safe or not.
I have no insight into US patents, I'm in Europe. We have our own patents and high court.
Name me one Android device where you can access the camera within the securitylock and I rest my case.
CustomROMs are not official and thus do not count.
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ShadowLea said:
We were discussing why it wasn't there, not whether it is safe or not.
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Actually, you were the one who brought up safety as the reason it wasn't there:
ShadowLea said:
Because security is pointless if you have a shortcut that bypasses that security.
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ShadowLea said:
Name me one Android device where you can access the camera within the securitylock and I rest my case.
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I don't know what case you're trying to rest...that widgets on a locked lockscreen are a security risk, or that Apple's patents preclude Android support of them?
If, in fact, Apple patents make Android widgets illegal, then that's one thing (and I'd be interested in seeing such a patent, and the interpretation that defines its scope as it applies to Android devices, but I haven't found that information yet).
My case is that it's not supportable to say that eliminating widgets on a secured device by choice is just a sound security decision by those who control the Android ecosystem. I've seen this argument numerous times, and as a data security policy, it just doesn't wash if the end user is steered toward the alternative of leaving all their data unsecured.
Before Note 3 I was the owner of Sony Z1, there exist such a possibility
I started this thread way back and now I have the answer! The next KitKat version coming for Verizon has that capability!
Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.
I started this thread way back and now I have the answer! The next KitKat version coming for Verizon has that capability!
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Is it different to plain poland 4.4.2? I do not see any improvements on this.
zipper3 said:
Is it different to plain poland 4.4.2? I do not see any improvements on this.
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Who knows - still waiting for the freaking update.
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Root the only way
the only way its by rooting your phone and installing Xposed installer and downloading camera on lock screen, but I think it only works also in Samsung devices.
ShadowLea said:
We were discussing why it wasn't there, not whether it is safe or not.
I have no insight into US patents, I'm in Europe. We have our own patents and high court.
Name me one Android device where you can access the camera within the securitylock and I rest my case.
CustomROMs are not official and thus do not count.
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I think my gf's Moto G can access camera within the security patern/pin/etc
Also CM roms allows that. I had that option on my S3, just swiping the lockscreen to the right.
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I've been doing some work with Samsung, putting the Galaxy Tab through its paces.
I've just been asked to dream up my ideal Galaxy Tab application! I've got a million and one ideas, but wondering what you guys thought?
I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
So what will it be? An integrated Email and Text messaging system? A battery life managing piece of software? What would YOU like from Samsung/Google?
I also got to meet the CEO of Google for this task. More about that here: bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com/
Phone as standard on US Tabs.
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Phone as standard on US Tabs.
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+1 that would be bomb
Ditto: phone as standard part of US Galaxy Tab.
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i want to be able to use my Galaxy Tab as a datalogger/basic tuner for the custom ECU running the engine in my car. (i would actually pay a dev 'decent' money to make something like this, needs to communicate with a BT RS-232 serial adapter, and the software can probably be ported from the OpenSource Linux program)
but in the realm of things that more than ~50 people will use... (thousands if it worked on any android device)
a VNC client with a small section of the screen dedicated to a trackpad with left and right click buttons and the ability to customize a small handful of keyboard buttons that are always available would be nice...
Jyveafk said:
Phone as standard on US Tabs.
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+1
Also app to compose music, like the ipad has.
Since the phone on the US Tabs was obviously determined by the carriers, and thus out of Google or Samsung's control, I'd like to see the Daily Briefing become customizable. The ability to add my own news source(s), the ability to remove the stock section, ect...
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Also app to compose music, like the ipad has.
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Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiukg5A1Qvk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlfnStW5V1s&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-KjlofNSuE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Something to start you off.
crazy talk said:
a VNC client with a small section of the screen dedicated to a trackpad with left and right click buttons and the ability to customize a small handful of keyboard buttons that are always available would be nice...
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AndroidVNC?
or GMote?
raqball said:
Since the phone on the US Tabs was obviously determined by the carriers, and thus out of Google or Samsung's control, I'd like to see the Daily Briefing become customizable. The ability to add my own news source(s), the ability to remove the stock section, ect...
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And change the colour of that ugly ass application. It comes in different horrible shades based on who your carrier is. I'd actually consider using it if it weren't some neon abortion.
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I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
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I've got a couple of suggestions for apps for the senior people at Samsung.
#1 How about an Android Market app for Galaxy Tabs sold in Dubai. Or a massive warning on the box that it doesn't come with Android Market, despite the press release for Galaxy Tab not indicating that Android Market is market specific and the Samsung UAE website showing photos of the Android Market icon on the Galaxy Tab:
http://www.samsung.com/ae/flash/p2main/low/main_KV_low_01.jpg
http://www.samsung.com/ae/system/consumer/product/2010/10/24/gt_p1000cwaxsg/5_01.jpg
#2 How about an augmented reality system. Kind of like that one described on the Samsung UAE website at http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/...XSG/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=feature, but that can't be installed because it the requires Android Market app.
Those would be two ideal apps for Galaxy Tab.
Phone as standard on the us version is a must.
Agree that the Daily Briefing app is cool. Very cool actually... being able to customize it would be nice.
Have we mentioned the phone thing? ... 30 day return policies sure are nice.
I'd like a nice app for google books, specifically the 'my library' part. There are a number of good book manager apps in the market, but none of them sync or integrate with google books. Then there's one or two apps that do sync with google books, but they don't have the other functionality I'm looking for.
What it needs to do is:
Sync with Google Books, not just the full book list, but individual shelves, please.
ISBN/ISSN search, from keyboard or barcode scan (maybe even integrate google goggles to recognize the cover)
Maybe a cover search.
Text search inside books (can just pipe the results from google books)
If it has a nice UI, even better, but that's not the top priority IMHO.
ConceptVBS said:
AndroidVNC?
or GMote?
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PocketCloud
Galaxy Tab said:
I've been doing some work with Samsung, putting the Galaxy Tab through its paces.
I've just been asked to dream up my ideal Galaxy Tab application! I've got a million and one ideas, but wondering what you guys thought?
I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
So what will it be? An integrated Email and Text messaging system? A battery life managing piece of software? What would YOU like from Samsung/Google?
I also got to meet the CEO of Google for this task. More about that here: bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com/
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I have only one request.... as others have said... please let us use it as a phone.
Have them post some anonymous post with a simple method that allows us to do that.
Otherwise, I am not keeping it.
A podcast player that knows to jump to the next chapter inside a podcast, and diplay each chapter info or image. Like the iTunes on iPad.
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xexes said:
I have only one request.... as others have said... please let us use it as a phone.
Have them post some anonymous post with a simple method that allows us to do that.
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I don't think it's that simple - at least not for CDMA devices.
I can only see that the carriers who have decided that this Tab can't be used as a phone, and have forced Samsung into this. Quite why they've decided this, I've no idea, but since I suppose that they feel that since the iPad can't have voice, the Tab doesn't need it either.
I suppose Samsung could release a network unlocked GSM Tab which supports both TMo and AT&T frequencies, but if they do this they may alienate the carriers who then won't carry Samsungs smartphone range, which let's face facts, is the bread and butter of their mobile business.
What you really need to be doing is boycotting the Tab in the US until the carriers see sense and allow you to use them as a phone.
We may pay more for our Tabs without a contract over here in the UK, but at least they are fully functional!
Regards,
Dave
brendand said:
#1 How about an Android Market app for Galaxy Tabs sold in Dubai. Or a massive warning on the box that it doesn't come with Android Market, despite the press release for Galaxy Tab not indicating that Android Market is market specific and the Samsung UAE website showing photos of the Android Market icon on the Galaxy Tab:
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FWIW, I don't think that its Samsungs fault that there is no Android Market in Middle-Eastern Tabs - it seems that this is the case for all Android devices (see here).
I know that's about as useful to you as a chocolate teapot, and I fully agree that there should be at least some obvious warning that there is no Market on the device.
Regards,
Dave
For those who can phone...
1. Voice recognition
What really is missing from my perspective is voice recognition since we need an ear phone to speak.
It makes no sense to have to take out the phone from the pocket to place a call.
We should be able to perform this from the ear phone.
2. Task manager
It makes me crazy no to be able to go to an application from the default task manager. We can only kill apps.
3. Google maps and Contact Manager should be integrated
4. Calendar tab should appear in Phone application and integrated with Contacts Manager.
Since I am using that device for professional purpose I am more interested in real life application than in Asphalt game.
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I don't think it's that simple - at least not for CDMA devices.
I can only see that the carriers who have decided that this Tab can't be used as a phone, and have forced Samsung into this. Quite why they've decided this, I've no idea, but since I suppose that they feel that since the iPad can't have voice, the Tab doesn't need it either.
I suppose Samsung could release a network unlocked GSM Tab which supports both TMo and AT&T frequencies, but if they do this they may alienate the carriers who then won't carry Samsungs smartphone range, which let's face facts, is the bread and butter of their mobile business.
What you really need to be doing is boycotting the Tab in the US until the carriers see sense and allow you to use them as a phone.
We may pay more for our Tabs without a contract over here in the UK, but at least they are fully functional!
Regards,
Dave
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No offense Dave, but I'm talking about US GSM phones and really don't want a lecture about what I should or should not be doing.
I am quite aware that UK/Euro phones are fully functional.
The guy asked for suggestions ... I gave him one.
So I was one of the people that watch the S4 Launch Presentation online from beginning to end. After having had my phone since it was released by AT&T, I've tried/utilized every feature available on it at least once.
However, there is one "feature" I cannot find that I remember hearing about during the presentation. It had to do with "Work". I can't remember exactly, but it had to do with the "separation" of "Work" and "Personal" Functions... I think it was related to email? I'm trying to watch the video again but does this ring a bell for anyone?
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So I was one of the people that watch the S4 Launch Presentation online from beginning to end. After having had my phone since it was released by AT&T, I've tried/utilized every feature available on it at least once.
However, there is one "feature" I cannot find that I remember hearing about during the presentation. It had to do with "Work". I can't remember exactly, but it had to do with the "separation" of "Work" and "Personal" Functions... I think it was related to email? I'm trying to watch the video again but does this ring a bell for anyone?
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Android 4.2 introduces multi-user support. S4 does come with Android 4.2.2 and as such, they made it possible to separate the, say, work/personal accounts. The presentation was talking about a case where (in a corporate environment) the IT department would be able to setup your "Work" account as per their needs/requirements/restrictions while leaving the "Personal" user account untouched - actually not even having access to it.
Hope this answers your question.
That would be Samsung's Knox product, not multi-user from android. It has been delayed from release, but has been approved by DoD for use in government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEdK9eUBlnA
Faluzure said:
So I was one of the people that watch the S4 Launch Presentation online from beginning to end. After having had my phone since it was released by AT&T, I've tried/utilized every feature available on it at least once.
However, there is one "feature" I cannot find that I remember hearing about during the presentation. It had to do with "Work". I can't remember exactly, but it had to do with the "separation" of "Work" and "Personal" Functions... I think it was related to email? I'm trying to watch the video again but does this ring a bell for anyone?
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nacos said:
Android 4.2 introduces multi-user support. S4 does come with Android 4.2.2 and as such, they made it possible to separate the, say, work/personal accounts. The presentation was talking about a case where (in a corporate environment) the IT department would be able to setup your "Work" account as per their needs/requirements/restrictions while leaving the "Personal" user account untouched - actually not even having access to it.
Hope this answers your question.
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That would be Samsung's Knox product, not multi-user from android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEdK9eUBlnA
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Thanks. It does. is this not available yet?
bigworm50 said:
That would be Samsung's Knox product, not multi-user from android. It has been delayed from release, but has been approved by DoD for use in government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEdK9eUBlnA
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Knox is Samsung's own security implementation but the multi-user support (Work/Personal accounts) used by Knox is actually built/based on Android 4.2 multi-user feature. Knox cannot be implemented on earlier versions of Android exactly due to Android's lack of multi-user support.
The multi-user support is present in all Android 4.2 versions regardless of hardware as well as Cyanogenmod 10 and up - without actually having anything to do with Samsung's Knox.
Knox was built from the ground up as platform/application security and device management. The multi-user feature is similar to android's built in feature in name only. Knox reaches all the way down to the bootloader.
Knox comes out in the summer in a future update. It seems nice but my work place doesn't use work phones.
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Knox was built from the ground up as platform/application security and device management. The multi-user feature is similar to android's built in feature in name only. Knox reaches all the way down to the bootloader.
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This could get interesting. I would assume a Knox enabled device would have a perma locked bootloader. If Samsung were to push an update including Knox, they could theoretically lock the phone down tight like Motorola did to the Atrix line, no?
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Just read this article
http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/samsung-galaxy-devices-vulnerable-to-keyboard-exploit/story-fn6vihic-1227402233319
Discovered by American mobile security specialists NowSecure, the SwiftKey keyboard that comes pre-installed with a number of Samsung Android devices allows easy access for hackers to attack.
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I was just about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge, however there does not appear to be any ROMS that allow Original (ASOP) Android to be installed. Apparently because the CPU Samsung use.
Are stock android ROMS ever going to become available ?
My SM-G925I does not comes with Swiftkey :/ But anyway I thought if you just update the Swiftkey in Play Store, it will be fixed?
I never had swiftkey on any of my galaxy devices I guess it's just one phone provider or more likely a journalist looking for a story
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I believe it should be easy to fix. I cannot try because I have have Swiftkey preinstalled but I believe these are the methods you can try...
1. Update the Swiftkey to the one on Play Store.
2. Disable the Swiftkey application. I believe all non Samsung system applications and some of Samsung's system applications should be able to be disabled. Swiftkey shouldn't be a problem...
3. You are here on xda so chances you will be rooting your phone I assume? If you have root, you can just uninstall it.
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I believe it should be easy to fix. I cannot try because I have have Swiftkey preinstalled but I believe these are the methods you can try...
1. Update the Swiftkey to the one on Play Store.
2. Disable the Swiftkey application. I believe all non Samsung system applications and some of Samsung's system applications should be able to be disabled. Swiftkey shouldn't be a problem...
3. You are here on xda so chances you will be rooting your phone I assume? If you have root, you can just uninstall it.
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Totally overblown vulnerability article today on Swiftkey. Firstly I seriously doubt 600M phones have it. I just checked 8 Samsung phones from various carriers - Sprint, Verizon, US cellular - S3, S4's, S5's, Note 2 and 3's and out of those 8 only one had Swiftkey on it. Easy to uninstall or Freeze if rooted. I take this as a punch back from someone on the Apple fan club finding a minor and hard to exploit vulnerability in android since Apple just got hit big in the last week or so. If you didn't find one of the articles detailing this exploit here's the skinny: It only can be exploited if you are on Wifi and on the same Hotspot or router as a would be hacker. That hacker needs to do some fairly complex stuff to spoof a Swiftkey server and your phone has to be trying to download a language pack update. I'd say there is about a 1 in 600 million chance of that happening
iSheep will find a way to blow things out of proportion to make samsung look bad
It's actually not the SwiftKey keyboard that has the vulnerability. SwiftKey have licensed some if their prediction technology to Samsung and it is actually the stock Sammy keyboard that can be exploited.
Yes. So, If I freeze or uninstall Samsung keyboard, vulnerability should be gone, right? I don't use that keyboard anyway.
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Update: Samsung reached out to us to announce that it will soon patch the vulnerability through Knox. Read the full statement below:
Samsung takes emerging security threats very seriously. We are aware of the recent issue reported by several media outlets and are committed to providing the latest in mobile security. Samsung Knox has the capability to update the security policy of the phones, over-the-air, to invalidate any potential vulnerabilities caused by this issue. The security policy updates will begin rolling out in a few days. In addition to the security policy update, we are also working with SwiftKey to address potential risks going forward.
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Source: Phone Arena
Hi there is already a fix posted by Samsung. You can go to lock screen security in settings then other security settings. Make sure it is on auto update.
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://...sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFKhxsYgn6q9FoAWKdu9YpevXN_Fw
do i get this Updates with a rootet phone?
Hi,
I just upgraded from a GS5 to a GS7 Edge. I noticed the "Read Notifications Aloud" option under "Language and Input" in the settings is no longer there. Specifically, I use the feature to read notifications aloud from priority senders in the e-mail app.
Does anyone know if this functionality is still in the phone, but under a different option. I have tried every third party option, and have been unable to find the same functionality in any of the apps.
Any help would be VERY greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
I fear this feature is gone since S6...
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I fear this feature is gone since S6...
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I thought that might be the case too, but then I saw something. I can't post a link here, but if you search on Google for "Menu tree: Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ (G928T)" and do a CTRL-F for the word "aloud" on the first search result that comes up (at least in the US), it is listed in the menu structure for the GS6 Edge+ just like it was for the GS5.
wrong phone bud
twcmaster said:
I thought that might be the case too, but then I saw something. I can't post a link here, but if you search on Google for "Menu tree: Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ (G928T)" and do a CTRL-F for the word "aloud" on the first search result that comes up (at least in the US), it is listed in the menu structure for the GS6 Edge+ just like it was for the GS5.
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Yes the s6 has it and is easily accessible but we are talking about the S7 and unfortunately it doesn't have it it is also missing numerous other things including the rf sensor needed for remote use for TV .I still use my s5 for all the the things I Miss on my s7 between the 2 you could build one SUPER PHONE!!!
Total nonsense Samsung w alarm and tts
This is a serious error on Samsung's part. Limiting the text to speech (TTS) function and the alarm name read aloud not to mention number of characters and alarms is a massive miscalculation. The INFRA red remote control BLASTER also a (sorry for the caps the idiot bell mobility gs7 keeps doing that very frustrating). Im going to to flash soon to the generic samsung gs7 android or fido. This coupled with how those television and android phone updates, are very vague about what each one does. I phoned the sheeple at 1800samsung , that bozo said "newer is better" regarding my tv update. I said" that's a lie, I updated my gs5 and suddenly video files that played back flawlessly, were not working due to codecs you removed. " He didn't know what a codec was and repeated "newer is better".
I hung up. Samsung if you want to be like apple then improve your phone reps knowledge (yes I have a iPhone 5s too)
Immitating apple by limiting users . At least they add features not get rid of core functions or cripple them.
I rely on my gs5 to read allot let's say at 3pm to say "reminder call courier company and gave packages ready "
Or
"now is the time intake critical mesications "
I used to recommend this to patients
As a reason to have a Samsung phone.
You were on a roll.samsung until gs5 then you introduced apple like hardware and software. All you had to do was update processor and ram and storage leave everything else on gs5 alone ads things like the face recognition that LG has had since their G2 model from 2013.
Was it the young douchebag you Put in charge of mobile decision or the heir to the sun and moon fortune. Get it right Mr sung or your gonna lose many of us.
Ever since the s6 they've been trying to be apple if we wanted apple we'd buy apple . In s7 they took more away ie INFRA , gave us back memory expansion. Samsung may make me switch to LG or something else if this keeps up I've the gs1 captivate, gs3 -gs7.
I doubt Samsung agents come on here. They are probably too busy acting like Jason Bateman 's boss the heir on horrible bosses 1. Lol
If this keeps up I will be abandoning Samsung as my mobile device of choice. They can simply fix the tts and clock in software. Or better yet start at the gs5 and improve things from there. I will not be purchasing a s8 or s9.
We might have seen what S8 now is / will be...
Let us discuss here, what is the most compelling feature/reason for you to buy a S8.
Hi Moderator,
can you move this thread to News & Discussion from Q&A section as this has been posted incorrectly and also poll list Bigger screen size into Moderate Screen Size (compare to S8+) and another poll entry with "Soft Key Navigation"
Revealed today.
There really is not enough new to warrant changing my 8 months old S7E.
Bring on the Note 8 or S9.
I just pre-order my S8+ !! Can't wait to get it the 22 april !!
The reasons I WON'T be getting the S8:
Facial Recognition (intrusive)
IRIS Scanner (intrusive)
Fingerprint Scanner (intrusive)
Bixby (Hal, Oblivion)
No IR Blaster (DSLR)
No SPen (Note user NECESSITY)
Enclosed Battery
What are the Pro's, then?
Screen
360
Processor
Camera
Water Resistance
The Phone Company said:
The reasons I WON'T be getting any phone:
Enclosed Battery
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Good luck getting any future phone with a removable battery.
I am thinking of tracking down another Note Edge.... I feel like I am losing a number of useful features by buying an S8+ as a replacement for my old Note Edge.
MSK1 said:
I am thinking of tracking down another Note Edge.... I feel like I am losing a number of useful features by buying an S8+ as a replacement for my old Note Edge.
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Yup, existing Note 4 user here, still going strong. Was a pre-ordered Note 7 customer and now look where we are today...
The live 'unboxing' presentation just made me nauseous. "Partnered with Google" "Working alongside Microsoft"
I see where this is going. I am done. Back to Nature.
Actual Reality > Virtual Reality all. day. long.
I voted the ones more important. But I'll tell you the ones that I absolutely do not find interesting: Bixby and Samsung Connect.
I have my own DDNS service running, so I do not need any cloud service from Samsung to get the status of my home smart devices. Bixby is replicating Google Assistant functionality, so it's more bloat added to the system and more companies with my life's metadata and data. As it wasn't hard enough to block such information leaks.
Dex, IP68, accessores, IRIS scanner and face recognition are cool.
All of the above items, but the S8+ 6.2 Screen is number one!
I am looking forward to Bluetooth 5.0 and better security logon. I hate the fingerprint reader. Whenever I golf, it can't read my fingerprint for a few days. Especially when I re-grip my clubs!!
Filiprino said:
I voted the ones more important. But I'll tell you the ones that I absolutely do not find interesting: Bixby and Samsung Connect.
I have my own DDNS service running, so I do not need any cloud service from Samsung to get the status of my home smart devices. Bixby is replicating Google Assistant functionality, so it's more bloat added to the system and more companies with my life's metadata and data. As it wasn't hard enough to block such information leaks.
Dex, IP68, accessores, IRIS scanner and face recognition are cool.
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It's actually the complete opposite of Google Assistant. It's embedded deep into the core functionality of the phone. Assistant is mainly for providing you information, with a few basic control features on top while Bixby allows much control over the device hardware and software via voice commands. It's a new feature that will need time to develop, Samsung wants to give you the option to do everything on your phone without having to touch it. One day you might not have to.
It's not for everyone though, you won't have to use it.
Highspeed123 said:
It's actually the complete opposite of Google Assistant. It's embedded deep into the core functionality of the phone. Assistant is mainly for providing you information, with a few basic control features on top while Bixby allows much control over the device hardware and software via voice commands. It's a new feature that will need time to develop, Samsung wants to give you the option to do everything on your phone without having to touch it. One day you might not have to.
It's not for everyone though, you won't have to use it.
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I don't see how it can be completely the opposite. It has more control over your device to provide information.
the curve screen and the new specks
Highspeed123 said:
It's actually the complete opposite of Google Assistant. It's embedded deep into the core functionality of the phone. Assistant is mainly for providing you information, with a few basic control features on top while Bixby allows much control over the device hardware and software via voice commands. It's a new feature that will need time to develop, Samsung wants to give you the option to do everything on your phone without having to touch it. One day you might not have to.
It's not for everyone though, you won't have to use it.
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Does the world really need another assistant? Fragmentation is already bad enough on Android. So expecting from app developers to implement voice commands for other assistants besides Googles own doesn't seem like a smart move.
not much improvement over the S7/S7Edge.. high price for a little bit extra. Fingerprint on the back, really?
Going for the HTC U (Ocean, SD835) or wait for Note 8
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Does the world really need another assistant? Fragmentation is already bad enough on Android. So expecting from app developers to implement voice commands for other assistants besides Googles own doesn't seem like a smart move.
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I do see your point and you are right about the fragmentation. That's the problem with open source. Companies want to go their own separate ways with it. AI is the next logical step in technology though. In the far future I don't imagine people still tapping away on screens, we will have Robotics and very advanced AI systems providing us with all the information we need.
Googles Assistant is a great bit of software and I use it a fair bit. It just can't integrate deep enough with every device, because of the fragmentation you mention. If we only had Google devices it would become a lot more useful.
I won't have that much need for Bixby but Samsung saw the need in the Mass market, or else they would not have bothered. There will be many that do actually want it. Especially disabled people and for use while driving. Samsung can hook it deep into the core functionality and allow control over every aspect of the device...one day.
Apple can do what they want as they have full control over their software and hardware. Samsung are trying to do the same thing. As they are one of the only Android phone makers that actually make a profit, they might make a success of it. Who knows.
I think we will see some rival OS in the future, they come and go. I can't see Android and iOS lasting forever. Samsung will go their own way one day.
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Filiprino said:
I don't see how it can be completely the opposite. It has more control over your device to provide information.
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Maybe I exaggerated some what lol. What I meant is that Bixby is Samsung's attempt at allowing hands free control over their phones. It's the start, so I expect it to get better with time and allow for almost total control. It won't just be for information. You will be able to control the camera, edit photos via voice commands, turn things on and off and do most of the things you have to touch the screen for. Handy if you're disabled or unable to hold your phone at the time.
I doubt I'll be using it much but it's still nice to gain new features. There will always be those that do have a use for it. Hopefully those that don't, will have the option to disregard it entirely.
Screen and camera are my main reasons. Plus after about 9 years with HTC phones, since the fuze, it's time for a change. And 64gb internal is a nice bonus.
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if it came whit unlockable bootloader im in
altvolt74 said:
if it came whit unlockable bootloader im in
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That's a bad bet...