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Mdl vs. Mf3???

Hey guys i just got my s4 yesterday and am wondering what the difference between the 2 firmwares is. Is one better then the other? My phone downloaded an update last nite but I havent installed it yet. Was going to root this afternoon.
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MF3 locks the boot loader, so if you want to flash ROMS, don't update. It also has some software tweaks and adds Knox and the ability to easily store apps on SD card. There is a root, but not a boot loader unlock, yet.
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Do yourself a favor and search and read through the first page or so of the general and Q&A sub forums. The information you need is there, especially the "pinned" threads in the general section. Read the "software update" thread and the "new root method for MF3" thread also. Good luck.

Will do scott thanks! Im coming from an iphone and forgot how big the android world is! Had an inspire 4g prior to my 4s
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Some say it has auto installed

It will auto install. You should root and put a custom Rom on asap. Check your firmware first though, if it's already installed you can brick your phone trying to root the way you would with mdl. If it's mf3 you've got the update and you'll have to use a different method.
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I had Knox on MDL, not sure what your talking about.
Mf3 locks the boot loader but fixes bugs and make the camera take sharper pictures. Plus better cell signal.
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I got lucky. It tried to auto instal so i yanked the battery and quickly rooted and threw a custom rom on it.
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So I have an MF3 S4 and I want to root it

Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Search and read before posting and you'll be rewarded

chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Your a senior member so you know better."GENERAL SECTION".
Just braking your b?lls a bit.
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chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Firstly, start here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320414&postcount=2
The fact that your are running the MF3 bootloader will prevent you from flashing any custom kernels due to the blown qFuse. Your only option as of right now is to root your device either using Kingo or jortex's root exploit. From their your need to install Hashcode's Safestrap Recovery and go from there with TouchWiz based ROM's for MF3.

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Your a senior member so you know better."GENERAL SECTION".
Just braking your b?lls a bit.
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So no options for overclocking or undervolting for me?
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chrisj22 said:
So no options for overclocking or undervolting for me?
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Thats correct no custom kernels witch means no overclocking,I think with rom toolbox you can change the voltages.
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just asking to see if there's any last hope for it but whats LOKI? ive heard about it in the past. Ive seen on KT's Kernel thread it would work on TW but im guessing it wont work for me being the qfuse issue.
Also if none of these are an option whats the point anymore to root? my old S3 was amazing and i loved flashing new things on it but it seems so locked down now to where the only real benefit of rooting is bloatware removal.
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chrisj22 said:
just asking to see if there's any last hope for it but whats LOKI? ive heard about it in the past. Ive seen on KT's Kernel thread it would work on TW but im guessing it wont work for me being the qfuse issue.
Also if none of these are an option whats the point anymore to root? my old S3 was amazing and i loved flashing new things on it but it seems so locked down now to where the only real benefit of rooting is bloatware removal.
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There is a lot of information about "LOKI" and "Rooting" in the General, Development, and Original Development sections.

This phone frustrates the **** out of me. So its rooted and all that with safestrap and when I flash a TW rom all it says is go to slot one and ceeate that and wipe the phone and install and when I do that and reboot all I get os a black screen with a blue led at the top
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chrisj22 said:
This phone frustrates the **** out of me. So its rooted and all that with safestrap and when I flash a TW rom all it says is go to slot one and ceeate that and wipe the phone and install and when I do that and reboot all I get os a black screen with a blue led at the top
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Use the MF3 Odin files, go back to stock and try again. Are you positive you didn't accidentally flash your TouchWiz ROM to the stock slot? Also... was what ROM was it?

I tried StockUp MJ6 4.3 TW rom. When id flash id do tue wipe it says in the instructions and then go and create rom slot 1 and install to that and then reboot to no avail. Ill have to try the stock ODIN when I get home
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chrisj22 said:
I tried StockUp MJ6 4.3 TW rom. When id flash id do tue wipe it says in the instructions and then go and create rom slot 1 and install to that and then reboot to no avail. Ill have to try the stock ODIN when I get home
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You need to use the 4.2, not 4.3 in ss.

Im hoping Flight5 4.2.2 TW will work ill try it when I get home. It saying I can flash a LOKId version of KTs kernel I didnt think that was possible on MF3
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chrisj22 said:
Im hoping Flight5 4.2.2 TW will work ill try it when I get home. It saying I can flash a LOKId version of KTs kernel I didnt think that was possible on MF3
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you still have to use loki, sir, you have a lot of reading to do, please check out the stickies in the general forum, before you really wind up with a expensive paper weight.

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You need to use the 4.2, not 4.3 in ss.
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Flight5 flashed well and nlKTs kernel didnt w9rk like I figured. It does seem abit faster but as far as benchmark scores its the same. FYI to anyone reading this if you want an S4 and want the non MF3 go to RadioShack and buy your phone. At our store we got 12 of the good S4s in stock
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[Q] How can I flash Cyanogen?

I have an S4 running 4.2.2 and it's currently rooted. But the root does not allow me to have a custom recovery. I want to be able to flash Cyanogen, but I'm not able to at the current time. What is your best idea of what I should do?

mars4prez said:
I have an S4 running 4.2.2 and it's currently rooted. But the root does not allow me to have a custom recovery. I want to be able to flash Cyanogen, but I'm not able to at the current time. What is your best idea of what I should do?
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Contact CM for a solution? I'm sorry i cant be more help ful, but if they cant do it...........

You both need to do a considerable amount of reading before ruining your devices I would start with this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
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s4freak said:
You both need to do a considerable amount of reading before ruining your devices I would start with this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
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Can I do anything at this point if I'm on MF3?

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Can I do anything at this point if I'm on MF3?
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Check out Safestrap.
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Safestrap puts my phone into a boot loop
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mars4prez said:
Safestrap puts my phone into a boot loop
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Then reread the OP and make sure you do exactly what it states.
Take your time and just make sure to follow each step.
MF3 can be rooted and de bloated but has no real custom recovery.
Safe strap only allows one on 4.3 to flash 4.2 2 roms.
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I'm on 4.2.2 and I followed all the instructions very carefully, but whenever I try to load my slot with the Google edition ROM (4.2.2) the phone goes into a continuous boot loop. I have no idea what is wrong and I can't find a solution anywhere.
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mars4prez said:
I'm on 4.2.2 and I followed all the instructions very carefully, but whenever I try to load my slot with the Google edition ROM (4.2.2) the phone goes into a continuous boot loop. I have no idea what is wrong and I can't find a solution anywhere.
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make sure you partition your slot big enough...try 2 and 1.5 for data...

I did this and it still didn't work. Where is the best guide on how to exactly flash a ROM? I've been following a video guide on it, but it doesn't work.
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You are probably using the wrong GE ROM... Only certain ones work. Check the OP of the SS QA thread.
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Pick a smaller rom to start...gpe 280 mb...make sure you flash the mf3 module zip after the rom flashes...look in deadly venom 8.2 he has all the links. .his rom is awesome too..its 1.1 gb try that too
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Won't boot

I have a gs4 on att and have installed numerous roms but will never boot anything but the stock one
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ce250 said:
I have a gs4 on att and have installed numerous roms but will never boot anything but the stock one
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What firmware are you on and what and how are trying to flash it
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I'm on mk2. Rooted of course. Safe strap 3.71. And trying to flash through twrp
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ce250 said:
I'm on mk2. Rooted of course. Safe strap 3.71. And trying to flash through twrp
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Are you using touch wiz based roms? those are the only ones that will work.
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Yeah I've tried several different roms. And ones with mk2 modules baked in or flashed modules afterwards. Still no luck. I appreciate your help and really would like to resolve this
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@ce250 if i were u ....odin to stock mk2 first follow my thread and start all over again .....rooting and reinstall Safestrap v 371....always create rom slot1 first to see if the rom boot up......and then u can always make backup and restore to stock slot if u want it. Unless it noted for stock slot.... PM sent...:thumbup::thumbup:
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Tried that too lol
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ce250 said:
Yeah I've tried several different roms. And ones with mk2 modules baked in or flashed modules afterwards. Still no luck. I appreciate your help and really would like to resolve this
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Which roms did you try to flash exactly? You said you flashed through TWRP, you mean safestap? TWRP outside of Safestrap will not work. You need to provide more details if you really want people to be able to help you. Our S4 is not like the phones we had before with unlocked boot loaders. This thing is a pain in the ass, but thanks the great knowledge & efforts of the developers here, we have so many options to flash custom roms

Yes this is much different than my other phones. I tried deadly venom 139, vision x, and hyperdrive. Yes I rebooted to recovery through safestrap
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ce250 said:
Yes this is much different than my other phones. I tried deadly venom 139, vision x, and hyperdrive. Yes I rebooted to recovery through safestrap
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Well I suggest the following. Start over. Use a different computer, use a different usb cable, & then download fresh drivers, Safestrap, rom. & mk2 modules. Who knows, but maybe the downloads you got are bad. Stick with the At&t versions as they tend to go easier. Also don't let experience guide you. Instead, follow the developers instructions. I've lost count how many times I've flashed my Skyrocket but I know how many times I've flashed my S4 cause damn boot loader has me on pins & needles every time. Well not so much since we have the mk2 tar files. Good luck & please post your results.

OK thanks ill give this a go. Might take me some time to get to a different computer and post results.
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Can someone please me a link

Please send me rooting link for Verizon Samsung galaxy note 3 that is the most current update. I having bad luck finding one. I'm on the stock jelly bean 4.3 waiting on dumb verizon to release the 4.4 kit katt.i can no longer wait so I want to root

Use kingo.

Third sticky thread in this General section.

So how do I find this link. Can't find it
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monkeyjjk said:
So how do I find this link. Can't find it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518808

If i root my note 3. Can I change roms since the boot loader is locked?
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monkeyjjk said:
If i root my note 3. Can I change roms since the boot loader is locked?
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After rooting, install hashcode's SafeStrap (in android development section). Then you'll be able to install any TouchWiz based ROM (Verizon).

monkeyjjk said:
If i root my note 3. Can I change roms since the boot loader is locked?
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Use this link and it will tell you everything you need to know to root the verizon. and load custom roms. It is what i followed.
However if you have any troubles with kingo not rooting your phone, then try Kingo 1.1.6 version. Look at My sig down below at exactly what i did.