Well, I unlocked my phone thankfully to you wonderful people here on xda !. But I was wondering I like stock and all but I love some flavor in my life. I see that a gsm fix was posted in the dev section but I wasn't sure It applied to nv unlock.
So my question is. Can I flash a non 4.3 rom and still keep my unlock without returning to stock?
simple enough
Currently using at&t and getting H+
Thanks guys
Is your boot loader unlocked?
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For the life of me I thought you could only install stock modified Roms until the boot loader was unlocked then you could install custom roms. But I see people installing custom Roms and the bootloader is still locked or am I missing something. Confused
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gentlemandroid17 said:
For the life of me I thought you could only install stock modified Roms until the boot loader was unlocked then you could install custom roms. But I see people installing custom Roms and the bootloader is still locked or am I missing something. Confused
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It's the Loki that allows it.
Oaklands said:
It's the Loki that allows it.
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Pardon the stupid question but What is loki
Nvm. Found the answer.
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gentlemandroid17 said:
Pardon the stupid question but What is loki
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Loki is what is used to help you root and basically let you bypass the boot loader so you can install the custom ROMS. It is probably a bit more technical than that but that is what it does in simple terms. You use this until the bootloader is actually unlocked.
I'm sure someone can chime in and give you a more technical answer. Research it.
Oaklands said:
Loki is what is used to help you root and basically let you bypass the boot loader so you can install the custom ROMS. It is probably a bit more technical than that but that is what it does in simple terms. You use this until the bootloader is actually unlocked.
I'm sure someone can chime in and give you a more technical answer. Research it.
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From what I have read it only works on att, Verizon and Korean version. Guess I'm s*** outta luck.
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Are you on TMo? Be patient. It will probably come. It is still early in the game.
First off sorry if I have missed something but I have been doing some reading but am slightly confused.
I am looking at a Verizon Note 3 on ebay to keep unlimited data since I just sold my Note 2 which was rooted and running a custom rom which is kinda a must for me. Where I am confused is I see tutorials on how to root the note 3 but I also see a petition to have verizon unlock the bootloader. When I hear locked bootloader I think no rooting and custom roms. So did verizon just recently lock the note 3 down like they did with the note 2 4.3 update? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Basically I just want to be able to root my Note 3 but am not worried about voiding any warranties with verizon since I'm buying it on ebay or something. Feel free to post links to this answer since I'm not opposed to reading just kinda overwhelmed right now.
Thanks for answering my stupid question and have a great weekend!!!
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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ContractorDude said:
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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Ok so it looks like I should be able to root it no problem. Whats big deal with the locked bootloader then?
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Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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ContractorDude said:
Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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Ahhhh ok thank you for the quick response!!!
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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ContractorDude said:
The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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Oh I don't doubt it for a second!! That's why I was confused saw plenty of custom ROMs but didn't really pay attention to tw or not. Not really an issue since I've been having crazy battery draining issues on everything I put 4.4.2 on. Haven't done my research but I'm sure it won't be long till 4.4 tw hits the note 3 anyways.
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Ya, Sprints already getting it.
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What is "locked" on the retail device is the recovery and boot partitions. They are crypto-signed and verified early in the boot sequence. Until the phone is hacked, it means it is impossible to boot a non-Samsung kernel or non-Samsung recovery. Even if you intentionally blow the Warranty flag on the phone, this behavior will not change.
So, while you can root, whatever "ROM" you want to try and use must play nice with a STOCK kernel (& ramdisk). So, no CM for example.
Also - because of "version upgrade locking", if you upgrade a stock kernel (let's say MJ7 -> MJE), you might not be able to use Nandroid restores of previous ROMs you formerly used any longer... depending on how tightly the ROM depends on kernel & ramdisk behaviors.
And one more thing - the Safestrap "psuedo-recovery" actually boots the beginning of a stock ROM (or whatever you have in the "stock slot"). One consequence of this is that you no longer have a separately bootable recovery to fix up mistakes or restore backups from. If you wedge the primary OS somehow, the consequence of that will be a loss of all data on the phone which is not backed up, and a trip to Odin to restore a pure stock firmware ... and starting all over from square 1.
(If you buy a Note 3, you might want to consider a BIG removable SD card - then you will have room for media/backups/etc that is not vulnerable to an Odin flash)
So basically, you have a limited form of rooting available.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49758703&postcount=5
Hello all, long time lurker here with a couple if questions. Not new to rooting: I've rooted an HTC Inspire, HTC One X, and finally this bad boy. This is definitely a different experience and there seems to be a lot of info that developers assume you know but even after reading everything recommended I still feel very confused. I am on the MDL baseband, rooted and flashed with the 4.3 GPE version which I think was pulled from a nexus variant. Here are my questions:
1) Are there any stock, rooted, Touch Wiz ROMs with the AT and T bloat removed?
2) What does Loki do, and if not explicitly stated that it's used in a ROM, do I install it before flashing the ROM or after?
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There's plenty, and you can flash ROMs from any S4 variant though you might need to flash an at&t kernel. Loki is our method to bypass the locked bootloader, and if you flash a ROM without it then it won't boot.
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Thanks for the reply! I can't seem to find any ROMs in the Android Development forum that are described as such.
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1.) Check out Shostock. It's built from stock source and works very well. It is pretty close to what you are looking for.
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I like iB's GoldenEye rom. Has zip to delete bloat. You can open zip and delete lines you don't want deleted. IE I delete S-Memo from script so it doesn't delete it from rom. Perfect rom for me, good battery life also. Very smooth.
I just updated Kk and want to unlock bootloader plz can anyone help me???
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l2adiant said:
I just updated Kk and want to unlock bootloader plz can anyone help me???
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Not possible. The path was locked up three OTAs ago.
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Not possible. The path was locked up three OTAs ago.
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Any hope for future unlock???
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l2adiant said:
Any hope for future unlock???
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I wouldn't count on it.
RikRong said:
I wouldn't count on it.
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But m waitin cuz i wanna install custom rom
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l2adiant said:
But m waitin cuz i wanna install custom rom
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You'll be waiting a long time.
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You'll be waiting a long time.
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Ahhh the fact is when i bought it was already on 4.1.2 therefore couldn't resist to update as i knew bootloader bug fixed
I hope someone working on it
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There really was only a very short window of time to unlock the bootloader. Unless you got an M after the update that was still on the original firmware. Almost right after Rosenberg published, Verizon sent out their exploit patch... I really wish Verizon would stop doing this stuff. It makes no sense.
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romma1 said:
There really was only a very short window of time to unlock the bootloader. Unless you got an M after the update that was still on the original firmware. Almost right after Rosenberg published, Verizon sent out their exploit patch... I really wish Verizon would stop doing this stuff. It makes no sense.
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i totally agree its bs
romma1 said:
There really was only a very short window of time to unlock the bootloader. Unless you got an M after the update that was still on the original firmware. Almost right after Rosenberg published, Verizon sent out their exploit patch... I really wish Verizon would stop doing this stuff. It makes no sense.
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Motorola just released kernel source code, i dont know but can this help?????
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This will not likely help much unlocking the bootloader, but it is nice of them to do so promptly to allow the few devs who build ROMs to continue updating with the new kernel.
It will help with our custom ROMs...
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KitKat troubles
I purchased two used Razr M's for use on Straight Talk. After using Radiocomm, the phones worked great. My wife updated to KitKat and lost her service. I used Radiocomm on hers and have it running again. I upgraded mine also and now we both screwed. Modem Fast Dormancy Monitor Service error pops up all the time. I watched mine screen come on like a reboot three times yesterday. Before I went to bed, I noticed that I had no service. A reboot and service came back. I sent two emails to Motorola and have no reply as of yet. KitKat runs great, but now I just may have to buy two more phones. I don't see any help coming and would advise people to stay away from these phone unless using on Verizon. I didn't know all the trouble a locked bootloader and not being able to root would cause. I read that it had been implied that Android slow release stages were to cause people to buy new phones for updates. So I guess the KitKat issues I'm facing are the same. Encourage me to buy before my wife skins me alive!
There is a fix for the Modem Fast Dormancy bug but it requires root in order to edit the build.prop and disable it.
Without root, it is possible there maybe a way to disable those functions by editing the NVM, but it will require some considerable work to isolate the NV Items and parameters responsible.
After editing the build.prop the phone performs pretty well under KK for GSM/WCDMA service.
I will try and take a look at the NV dumps and see what I can find. No promises.
Hey guys, I happen to be running an old shostock rom from shortly after I got the phone. I believe I have the mdl bootloader but am only 90% sure.
Since it has been so long and I see so many threads about having to use safestrap I just want to be cautious with my flash.
I would like to try out a newer, but very stable ROM. Which ones are compatible with my device? I assume I still need to flash lokidoki.zip?
I used to love miui on my old inspire/desire hd....is there a good port for the gs4?
Thanks for the help!
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If you go to Settings, "About Phone" and check there or extra information, it should tell you the what the current bootloader is for your device, yes?
Dirty Unicorns is a stable MDL based ROM available in Kit Kat and Lollipop.
If you have an old ROM, I wonder if you may need to update your modem as well.
Whatever do you, don't forget to backup. Good luck.
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Anyone else have anything to add? How stable are the aosp lollipop roms?
I do like touchwiz but I'm looking for a change of pace.
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