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usb thumb drive instead of PC?

I tried searching to see if this has already been discussed, but like all vBulletin forums, the search function rejected USB and Pen (as in pen drive) and a few other essential but three-letter words. So I found zero.
I have a 4 GB USB U3 thumb drive that I always carry with me--until I lose it, that is. I would like to load it up activesync (or not--whatever works) and a whole bunch of files I want to install on my HTC Touch Pro (AT&T Fuze). I have a short cable with a male mini USB connector at one end and a female regular-sized USB connector on the other (so I can slip the male USB thumb drive connector into the cable and thence connect it to my TouchPro).
I'm not sure whether this will work, but it seems like it should. This way, I can carry with me all of my files-to-be-installed and work on customizing my fuze anytime, anywhere. I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little. (i have a 32 GB F card and a 32 GB SD card in my iP 211.)
For starters, I can't even figure out how to install Windows Mobile Device Center on the thumb drive--the process keeps wanting to mess with the AS/Winmobile Device Center already istalled (and used for another WM device).
Maybe there's a way to do with without AS or the Device Center. That's fine with me. All I care about is having access to the many, many apps I have waiting on the flash drive.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sandra

Im no expert, but I dont think many devices have the capability for being hosts, meaning they cant have external memory devices attach except through the supplied card slot.
There are a couple out there which can handle it, but they normally come with a usb port built in. Otherwise I doubt its possible. I dont think its one of those things which can be programmed. Of course, I could be entirely wrong about it.
Edit: Ok, im completely wrong about it. I just found a web page through google saying that many devices with wm on dating back to Pocket PC 2002 do in fact have the ability to do it.
My bad. lol
http://www.mypdacafe.com/articles.php?id=219

See this threads for discussion on Touch Pro's USB host possibilities:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905&highlight=usb+host

sfrrr said:
I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little.
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What size do you have? They are currently available up to 16 gig, and 32 is coming. I keep all my cabs on my Sandisk 16. As for USB host, see the post above with the link to the thread. The chipset does not appear to support it. BTW, if you do a search on "USB host", you will find the thread.

I'm about to follow those links you guys recommended, but I wanted to say a quick thanks to you all. I didn't know anything about USB hosting, etc, and it's a whole lot easier to think anything is possible if you don't know anything than if you are well-educated. (OTOH, I suppose that that knowing might also inhibit experimenting which means you don't pursue new ideas. Hence the box we have to think outside of.)
Thanks again,
Sandra

I'd recommend a Trio adapter: Trio is not a brand name, just a mechanical name they have given this adapter. I had one made by A-Data and its awesome.
The adapter itself is an SD card that accepts a MicroSD on the side. However, the neat part is the fact that you can remove a piece and voila! you have a USB stick.
http://memoryworld.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=14&products_id=386 is the first hit from google. I bought mine from Newegg way back in the day. Sadly it was ran over when my phone was. The MicroSD card was good, but the adapter died. I am saving up to get the new SDHC version and a 16GB MicroSD card.
BE ADVISED: there are similar products out there called DUAL adapters: the memory is non removable in those. What that means is that there is no MicroSD card that comes out.
Enjoy!

Compatible USB Devices

This is just a thread where you can post anything that works when you plug it into the usb slot on the acer iconia inluding: keyboards,usb hard drives, mices, 3g usb sticks, external hard drives, anything else you can think of just post it

Wireless Xbox 360 controller via PC dongle

Logitech Wingman Gamepad - 2 recognized when using self-powered hub, but D-pad codes were the same for both (ie, 2-player not possible)
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Huawei 173u 3G, but only on custom rom.

Razer naga gaming mouse =)

vasko002 said:
Huawei 173u 3G, but only on custom rom.
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What rom were you using?

microsoft wireless mobile mouse 3500
Model: 1427
hitachi 2.0 tb hard drive xl2000
an hp keyboard usb cord dont know the model
Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000
logitech k350 great keyboard, wireless with small reciever, hooks up right away, bought for 36 bucks off ebay and cheaper than bluetooth keyboard with better value, really comfortable also

I'm using Lightspeed with 3g. External HDD works and my Kingston 1GB flash drive.

I have Logitech MK220,
it's a wireless mouse / keyboard combo with one receiver ( unfortunately a lil big, not the micro ones, but not that bad) and it works perfectly on Iconia with both keyboard and mouse. It's a great keyboard and very compact.

Nova slider X600 working good

Samsung 2.5" portable hard drive
Sandisk 8GB Cursor contour (although it seems to bugger up a lot)
Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse combo (can't remember the model number)
Asus EK-C2 eee top wireless keyboard and mouse
Wiimote! (Have to use an app in the market for it)
I find that portable hard drives seem to work better than USB flash drives. Does anyone else feel the same way?

isnt a flash drive kind of a portable hard drive?

How about card readers? I need to copy JPG files from a card reader to the tablet so that I can send them via wi-fi. Any particular brand of cardreader?

Kingston USB memory FAT 32. Using File Manager makes it easy for me.

The PNY 8gb mini net book USBs are working for me. Great little things, as they hardly stick out from the slot, and I can store all sorts of backup stuff on there.

bigdogshark62 said:
The PNY 8gb mini net book USBs are working for me. Great little things, as they hardly stick out from the slot, and I can store all sorts of backup stuff on there.
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Yeah i have an 8gb also but i tore off the thing that you slide it got annoying, and i found a green led light that blinks where the henge is

has anyone tried like a high capacity flash drive, 64gb or 128gb

starfcker69 said:
How about card readers? I need to copy JPG files from a card reader to the tablet so that I can send them via wi-fi. Any particular brand of cardreader?
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Yes! I have a really cheap Digital Concepts reader that I picked up a couple of years ago on the road. The tablet sees the CF card as a USB Storage Device.

I've used a 1tb WD Passport drive formatted to fat32 on mine.
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Seagate 1.5tb
I have used Seagate 1.5 TB portable hard drive formatted ntfs. I'm on stock 3.2.

Rooted N7 mounting hard disk drive?

Hi everyone. I am very new to Android and this forum as well.
Just a week ago I got my Nexus 7 - my first android device! <3
I read online that I can root my device and install stickmount to get USB OTG support
I have done that successfully
I am able to use the SanDisk 4GB USB now - great
So I tried to mount a hard drive......but failed
I guess my Nexus has not enough power to use the hard drive.
But the thing is that my drive actually did power on (although with a strange sound continued in background)
Still stickmount failed to mount/detect the drive
The hard drive I used is not a popular one - is manufactured by a company named EIGHT
The model no is UH320
The drive is 320GB
As I read more information, I know that self-powered hard drive should work flawlessly.
I want to ask what is the problem? Any suggestions to get it work?
Or any hard drive that is tested and work with the Nexus 7?
Thanks a lot. Any help or advice would be appreciated

You can try a shorter cable. I have a drive that works on a 2 foot cable but only makes a clicking sound and never reads the drive on a 4 foot cable. External powered drives work OK.

Bit Banger said:
You can try a shorter cable. I have a drive that works on a 2 foot cable but only makes a clicking sound and never reads the drive on a 4 foot cable. External powered drives work OK.
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Thanks for your advice. I wish to know if you can show a pic of the workable cable?
for mine, it is the "SANOXY Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable Flash Drive SD T-Flash Card Adapter"

do you know what filesystem your external drive is formatted in? FAT32? NTFS? HFS+? something else? it might not be showing up because you don't have support for the filesystem the drive is in. small flash drives are usually formatted in FAT16 or FAT32, which is natively supported in android, so those will typically work. larger hard drives may not, since they might be NTFS or some other filesystem that isn't natively supported.

I have checked that my hdd is formatted in NTFS. It is 320gb.
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It's also very possible that you have a bad cable. You may want to get your hands on another one to verify.

I have tried to use the same cable connecting to the laptop and it works fine. Anyway, I am going to buy another HDD and see if the problem can be solved. Any suggestion which HDD to buy?
I am looking for a 320gb or a 500gb HDD. Thanks!
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neowills said:
I have tried to use the same cable connecting to the laptop and it works fine. Anyway, I am going to buy another HDD and see if the problem can be solved. Any suggestion which HDD to buy?
I am looking for a 320gb or a 500gb HDD. Thanks!
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Curious about the first sentence... you don't mean that you used the cable to connect the laptop to the hdd, do you? If so, that does not verify that you have a good otg cable.

How to run Fire TV apps from an External USB Drive

After trying a whole bunch of methods, here is the best way I've found to free up internal storage by moving apps to an external drive.
Complete step-by-step Guide with screenshots
tl;dr version:
1. Mount the drive with StickMount
2. Move the files and "trick" the Fire TV with FolderMount

does this work with XBMC?
those thumbnails are filling up the internal memory really fast

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jadflat said:
does this work with XBMC?
those thumbnails are filling up the internal memory really fast
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Yes, you can move XBMC's data with this method. But since XBMC is so customizable, modifying advancedsettings.xml like JJ-KwiK suggests is a better option.

awesome, thank you!

Sweet! Thanks for the guide.

So this guide will let you run apps from an external?? Sweet i need to buy a new one lol.. Thanks
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XBMC
fireTVnews.com said:
Yes, you can move XBMC's data with this method. But since XBMC is so customizable, modifying advancedsettings.xml like JJ-KwiK suggests is a better option.
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xbmc run well from external drive

Hi Guys
Just need some input w.r.t. flash drives and external drives.
What is the biggest size flash drive or external drive we can use on the AFTV?
Fat32 or NTFS file system?
Do you need a powered multi usb device to make the external drive work?
Must you use a powered external drive to make it work in the fire tv?
Hope someone can clear it up.
I connected a non powered multi usb device on the fire tv. the Rii keyboard with bluetooth usb and my 4gb flash both worked on it, but my 1.5TB 2.5" does not want to pick it up.

Stevie G said:
Hi Guys
Just need some input w.r.t. flash drives and external drives.
What is the biggest size flash drive or external drive we can use on the AFTV?
Fat32 or NTFS file system?
Do you need a powered multi usb device to make the external drive work?
Must you use a powered external drive to make it work in the fire tv?
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I'm using a 32GB USB Flash Drive and it works. It's NTFS. Spinning disk must be powered externally for both 2.5" or 3.5".
External SSD might work unpowered....I don't have a drive to test this theory.

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I'm using a 32GB USB Flash Drive and it works. It's NTFS. Spinning disk must be powered externally for both 2.5" or 3.5".
External SSD might work unpowered....I don't have a drive to test this theory.
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I have two Toshiba 5400 RPM Canvio that are unpowered 2.5 and work fine, and a Seagate 500MB 2.5 in a cheapie external USB case that works fine as well.

Yeah I don't understand I've just found my Verbatim USB 3 external 2.5" works but my transcend external 2.5" doesn't. Both are the same size and both are NTFS. I checked and they both work on my PC. Guess it's luck of the draw for 2.5". I can't get an external 3.5" to work...Anyone else?

roligov said:
Yeah I don't understand I've just found my Verbatim USB 3 external 2.5" works but my transcend external 2.5" doesn't. Both are the same size and both are NTFS. I checked and they both work on my PC. Guess it's luck of the draw for 2.5". I can't get an external 3.5" to work...Anyone else?
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3.5 inch should be 12V so they would need an external power supply. As far as not seeing a powered 3.5 it could be one of a hundred different issues.

roligov said:
Yeah I don't understand I've just found my Verbatim USB 3 external 2.5" works but my transcend external 2.5" doesn't. Both are the same size and both are NTFS. I checked and they both work on my PC. Guess it's luck of the draw for 2.5". I can't get an external 3.5" to work...Anyone else?
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My 2TB 3.5" external works with a 12v power.

External Harddrive 3TB, 3.5" formatted as NTFS works fine for me.
Different sorts of USB stick's up to 32MB formatted as fat32 or NTFS gave me no trouble either.

Images gone after moving Thumbernails to USB stick
Hello,
I 'moved' the Thumbernails folder, using the advancedsettings.xml method. After a new scan run I see all the movie-descriptions, but I do no longer, see any images. They are just not shown..
Any idea, whats going wrong ? I'm really new to XBMC
edit:
After the scan, I deleted the whole content in Andtroid/.../userdata/Thumbernails. The folder itself is still there.
(6GB usb stick/NTFS)
edit2: solution found!
xbmc: System->File Manager->Profile directory->Database delete the Textures13.db and restart the xbmc.
All thumbnails are displayed again!

I tried this method with NFSMW which is approx 4gb after updating and it copied everything over the my usb BUT when i mount it the game says my usb storage device has no room for an update -_- (even though the directory copied is the most up to date version and capacity is 16gb) also, this method does nothing to free up space on the FTV. I had to go in manually to my android/data folder and remove the directory to free up space myself. Might want to add that to the description.

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...also, this method does nothing to free up space on the FTV. I had to go in manually to my android/data folder and remove the directory to free up space myself. Might want to add that to the description.
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You are mistaken or did something wrong. FolderMount moves the files AND deletes the originals. If the files are set as "mounted" in FolderMount, it will appear as if they are still on the Fire TV. Meaning, if you "ls" the original directory in /sdcard/, you will see all the original files. However, the files are not actually on the Fire TV. To verify this for yourself, go to Settings > About to see your available free space before and after following my directions. You will see your free space increase.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709637
this url states that USB harddrive is not possible.
then how are you guys making it possible ?
must the fire tv be rooted ? before this feature is possible.
i think this is an important topic. as the device is now rooted, alot users would download apps, and they would need the space.
I would like to use USB harddrive with my XBMC.
please advice.
Thanks a lot.

nero16 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709637
this url states that USB harddrive is not possible.
then how are you guys making it possible ?
must the fire tv be rooted ? before this feature is possible.
i think this is an important topic. as the device is now rooted, alot users would download apps, and they would need the space.
I would like to use USB harddrive with my XBMC.
please advice.
Thanks a lot.
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That link was before we had root.
With root and StickMount both USB drives and Thumbdrives work great

USB not detecting properly on 2nd gen shield tv.

So I have inserted the 3.0 usb mini drive and get message usb is running slow should try 3.0 or drive needs to be formatted. I format the drive and it fails then everything gets messed up at that point. es file explorer sees it but says can not open file. In the geforce forums many people are having the same issue. I plug in a usb 2.0 thumb drive and it detects and es file explorer sees it fine. Me thinks an update is needed. Any ideas?
thx

What type are you using?
I have a 128gb sandisk usb stick as adopoted storage in slot 1, in slot 2 I now have usb 3 Verbatim 1gb external drive.
Tried several others as I tweaked my setup and all worked (sandisk, verbatim , samsung)

Having the same problem. I've tried two different USB sticks. Both 128gb up to 400mbps read and 270mbps write. Shield claims both are too slow and fails to format either. Once it fails, the sticks are rendered useless and even after formatting, the shield will not mount either stick.. Nvidia support was not helpful at all. They're going to email me back when they find a solution.

Are they all USB 3? I read it doesn't support less than this so in case you have USB 2 sticks this may be the issue.
If they are USB 3 then I am not sure.

USB 2.0 drive work fine. I have already tested a couple. I got a 64GB 3.0 SanDisk to work. I did not bother formatting when aked. It came formatted in Fat 32.

I have used both USB 2 and 3; most USB 2.0 flash drives has given me a slow warning error, but the USB 3.0 one rocked and adopted just fine.

Same issue here. Just got my 2017, plugged in a sandisk fit 128, and it doesn't detect it. Plugged in some crappy 8gb lexar drive I had and it detects it. Tried formatting the sandisk multiple times, ntfs and exfat and still nothing.

That's very strange, I have the same as you and it worked in both usb slots on the Shield when I was testing what I would like my setup to be before eventually using it as adopted storage in slot 1.
How are you guys formatting your drives, maybe this is the issue? Having said that my 1tb HD in 2nd USB slot is NTFS.

I tried both exFat and NTFS.
Here's what i tried.
Sandisk Ultra Fit 128 USB 3.0 (both NTFS & exFat) - didn't recognize under either format
Lexar 8GB crappy old drive USB 2.0 (FAT32) - recognized
PNY 64GB (not sure of model) USB 2.0 (both NTFS & exFAT) - Didn't recognize as exFAT, but did recognize it as NTFS
Seagate 250GB 2.5" portable drive USB 2.0 (NTFS) - recognized
I've ordered the samsung bar drive (plastic) 128GB to try that now. I can't use the USB 2.0 drives, it's noticeably slower.

Same issue here with 2nd gen shield TV and USB 3.0 Samsung FIT 128 GB USB drive.
After formatting the drive as extended storage it is showing "Samsung drive is ejected" message.
tried formatting using Fat32, NTFS and exFat with no success, also changed the the drive policy to optimize performance then formatted, no success either.
This is becoming a frustrating issue.
Any solution please?

There is an update in the works that corrects most of these issues with USB drives. If you check this thread https://forums.geforce.com/default/...the-next-shield-experience-software-upgrade-/ then you will figure out what I am reffering too.

Bump? I just gave up on my Samsung Bar 128GB (USB 3.0) drive. It seems to work in other devices without any issues. It would occasionally be detected after while in USB port 2, but the format never succeeded. I tried formatting it myself using exFAT and NTFS, and then tried deleting all partitions and still had no luck. Stuck a SanDisk 32GB drive in there and it worked right away for adopted storage.

I just got my Nvidia shield tv 2017 16gb and discovered that the usb port closest to the ethernet port does not recognize usb flash drives. First I tried to use a 128gb sandisk flash drive on that port and it took forever to format so I canceled the process. Then tried over the other port and it took seconds to finish.
I think the problem is related to the OP has there been any breakthrough?
In actuality the port works for connecting a dongle for a keyboard or mouse, but flash drives are a no go. Additionally, the drives connected to that port get blazing hot.

Plug in your hard drive then unplug the Nvidia system plug it back and let it power on

Froid said:
Having the same problem. I've tried two different USB sticks. Both 128gb up to 400mbps read and 270mbps write. Shield claims both are too slow and fails to format either. Once it fails, the sticks are rendered useless and even after formatting, the shield will not mount either stick.. Nvidia support was not helpful at all. They're going to email me back when they find a solution.
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Any new?
I have the same issue.
Thanks

sicilianom said:
Any new?
I have the same issue.
Thanks
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I ended up purchasing a 2TB Western Digital My Passport external drive and it worked right away and haven't had an issue with it since. It's been great, but unfortunately, the original issue was never fixed as far as I know. I've taken a couple updates since, but haven't tried any other sticks since the WD Drive is working so well. If you're on the latest update and still having an issue, then I recommend an external drive.
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Thank you for the info.
How did you setup the heater all drive?
How did you managed to install all apps and games and not filling up the Internal 16GB memory?
Thanks
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Froid said:
I ended up purchasing a 2TB Western Digital My Passport external drive and it worked right away and haven't had an issue with it since. It's been great, but unfortunately, the original issue was never fixed as far as I know. I've taken a couple updates since, but haven't tried any other sticks since the WD Drive is working so well. If you're on the latest update and still having an issue, then I recommend an external drive.
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Thank you for the info.
How did you setup the heater all drive?
How did you managed to install all apps and games and not filling up the Internal 16GB memory?
Thanks