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Coming with 2GB RAM
Yes it does mean I will have to unlock which ever version I get when I buy it, so I can use it for traveling (probably the HSPA version) but i don't for see that being an issue.
Because the UK Galaxy S3 is horribly underpowered.
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Because the UK Galaxy S3 is horribly underpowered.
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LOL @ your username. Running out of ideas
daraj said:
LOL @ your username. Running out of ideas
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It's a useful reminder when i need to count anything. Shame there's no 7 or 9 though!
Hmm.
Why would you want a 2GB ram one when it dumb down the processor to a dual core :/ Bleh.
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Why would you want a 2GB ram one when it dumb down the processor to a dual core :/ Bleh.
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I may buy an international quad core but really it's a toss up of which will be best. Canada is moving to the LTE network which means the international versions will eventually have to either switch or be able to communicate on those frequencies, right now they are still HSPA.
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Why would you want a 2GB ram one when it dumb down the processor to a dual core :/ Bleh.
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Im really impressed by s4's performance in hox. It beats tegra 3 quad easily.
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Im really impressed by s4's performance in hox. It beats tegra 3 quad easily.
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it really doesnt,
Antutu scores the T3 version much higher than S4 - even if the T3 is set to use only 2 cores (which XDA users have tested), it still comfortably beats the S4.
initial tests that shown the S4 to perform greater, were only being tested on dual-core only tests and whilst being used on the HTC ONE S with its much lower native resolution.
an S4 in a ONE X will not perform as good as in the ONE S - period.
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SIMPLY PUT, i wouldnt sacrifice a Quad Core Exynos for 2gb ram - especially when 1gb is enough.
I had a Tegra one x and it definitely lagged. While the s4 on one x may be better or equal than Tegra 3, it definitely can't beat the exynos in terms performance, speed and buttery smooth experience. And don't you think Samsung will make sure their own processor runs or performs better than s4 in their flagship phone?
Any idea why they aren't releasing the quad core with 2 gigs? I know it will be more expensive but somethings are worth paying for.
slight22 said:
Any idea why they aren't releasing the quad core with 2 gigs? I know it will be more expensive but somethings are worth paying for.
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Cant have the best of of both worlds. They up the cpu lower the RAM , lower the CPU up the RAM.
You guys need to read this
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/editorial-why-a-snapdragon-s4-galaxy-s-iii-is-awesome/
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I cancelled both my pre-orders.
Why? Cost and warranty. I buy direct from my local provider, I don't have to worry about shipping stuff away. I just walk down to where I bought it from and done...phone is replaced.
Cost wise...if what they're saying is true, getting a 16GB device is going to be cheaper here than buying it from Expansys or Negri for the quad-core.
Anything I buy that is new now is going to be a far better performer than my old SGS, dual or quad.
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Cant have the best of of both worlds. They up the cpu lower the RAM , lower the CPU up the RAM.
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I feel this is the best of both worlds. The S4 is a beast and very power efficient. More cores doesn't always = better performance. I figure Samsung is adding the extra ram to alleviate multitasking issues that the LTE One X suffers from. I'm assuming the Adreno GPU is the ram hog here with only 672 availble ram on the One X. It's a great decision. With 2gb of ram, my One X will probably go to my wife while I pick up the S3.
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I cancelled both my pre-orders.
Why? Cost and warranty. I buy direct from my local provider, I don't have to worry about shipping stuff away. I just walk down to where I bought it from and done...phone is replaced.
Cost wise...if what they're saying is true, getting a 16GB device is going to be cheaper here than buying it from Expansys or Negri for the quad-core.
Anything I buy that is new now is going to be a far better performer than my old SGS, dual or quad.
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I just cancelled my Negri pre-order as well, looking forward to the US variant & better piece of mind if I have probs like you.
Isn't the S4 made from a lower (better) nm production process than the exynos? It should be better at battery life and 2Gb of RAM seals it for me, waiting for the US Verizon version....
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Coming with 2GB RAM
Yes it does mean I will have to unlock which ever version I get when I buy it, so I can use it for traveling (probably the HSPA version) but i don't for see that being an issue.
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If you are into custom roms etc it's probably best to stick with the international version. It will be the most widely sold therefore will see more development than the other versions.
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sxi200 said:
If you are into custom roms etc it's probably best to stick with the international version. It will be the most widely sold therefore will see more development than the other versions.
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You are probably right, but it still begs the question. For how long?
Network HSPA 850/1900/2100 MHz & Quad band EDGE support.
LTE 700/1700 MHz
So if these are the frequencies Telus will be using can anyone tell me if the phone with companies like wind and Mobilicity will be using the international version?
I ask because wind & mobilicity is suppose to use the 1700/2100 frequencies.
however the international version according to expansy is using the following.
Network
2.5G (GSM / GPRS / EDGE): 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz
3G (HSPA+ 21Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz
What am I missing here? If I buy the hspa or international phone how will i be able to use it on companies like wind/mobilicity if it don't use the same 1700 frequencie?
Muckrak3r said:
Isn't the S4 made from a lower (better) nm production process than the exynos? It should be better at battery life and 2Gb of RAM seals it for me, waiting for the US Verizon version....
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yep 28nm.
and screw dev support, guys. i don't see how that could outweigh a longer lasting phone + great performance + LTE. i just can't fathom that. stock odexed ROMs have proven to be the best imo. there will be root, which means no bloatware, and i can do my own theming. that's all i personally need. currently running a stock odexed 4.0.4 ROM on my GNex that i modded and couldn't be happier.
S4 Krait with 2gb of RAM is the better one in my eyes. i'm very happy about this.
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slight22 said:
Network HSPA 850/1900/2100 MHz & Quad band EDGE support.
LTE 700/1700 MHz
So if these are the frequencies Telus will be using can anyone tell me if the phone with companies like wind and Mobilicity will be using the international version?
I ask because wind & mobilicity is suppose to use the 1700/2100 frequencies.
however the international version according to expansy is using the following.
Network
2.5G (GSM / GPRS / EDGE): 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz
3G (HSPA+ 21Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz
What am I missing here? If I buy the hspa or international phone how will i be able to use it on companies like wind/mobilicity if it don't use the same 1700 frequencie?
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1700/2100 that you're listing is HSPA+
the 700/1700 is LTE mate. there's two variants and you're confusing yourself, and me just a little bit.
one supports LTE and one will support HSPA+ 42Mbps. these are the non-international versions.
great news for ATT kids, though. because that's what they use
edit: so you have the following
3G (HSPA+ 21Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz
4G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 1700/2100
LTE: 700/1700
in other words, you'd get Edge if you used an international version on Wind/Mobilicity. this would be the same as if i imported an international version and used it on T-Mobile US.
Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron = T-Mobile US (same bands)
Telus/Bell/Rogers/etc = ATT (same bands)
eBay (via Datavis) has the Samsung Galaxy S3 III i9300 16GB Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich 4G LTE Smartphone w/ 4G LTE Band & 1.5GHz Dual-Core Processor for $499.99 Free Shipping after Coupon Code: "EMCJJNJ99" (Exp 11/7). Tax in CA, NJ, TN.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190748884672
And you also get 10 dollars in ebay bucks!
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Looks like the non-LTE i9300 version on seeing the listing. Still a good deal though
sidthegreatest said:
Looks like the non-LTE i9300 version on seeing the listing. Still a good deal though
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Network
Frequencies and Data Type: GSM Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900MHz; UMTS Tri-band: 850/1900/2100MHz; LTE Dual-Band: Band 4/17
Data Speed: GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
Platform
Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich
CPU / Processor
1.5GHz Advanced Dual Core, Qualcomm
Looks like lte to me.
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Network
Frequencies and Data Type: GSM Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900MHz; UMTS Tri-band: 850/1900/2100MHz; LTE Dual-Band: Band 4/17
Data Speed: GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
Platform
Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich
CPU / Processor
1.5GHz Advanced Dual Core, Qualcomm
Looks like lte to me.
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The product description says its the i9300.
however, that cannot be the i9300 or the i9305 variants as they are quad-core unlike what you mentioned. So, in all likelihood, it should be a North America variant & not the international version..
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Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.
Hi! Us Tmobile User Here!
gilbnx said:
Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.
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Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!
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Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HDSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!
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I think that the lack of LTE for the i9500 is now updated. This is the spec from the website I've ordered the i9500 from:
Network: 2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE): 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz; 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz; 4G (LTE Cat 3 100/50Mbps) : up to 6 different band sets(Dependent on market)
Display: 5 inch Full HD Super AMOLED (1920 x 1080) display, 441 ppi
Processor: 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor
OS: Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean)
(they had the rest of the spec, cam, etc. but its not relevant for this thread).
This is the site: http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s-4-smartphone-black-mist-16gb-unlocked-247538/
As you can see, it is the 1.6Ghz Octa core and it does support LTE per this spec. The question is - will it work with the US (T-mo and AT&T) bands?
Thanks.
sofyanator said:
Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!
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AFAIK there won't be compatibility issues because the GT-I9505 will support all global LTE frequencies and standards. And what you said about LTE in Europe is wrong. There is a "reliable" network in Europe but it works on other frequencies than in US and moreover most countries in Europe will get the GT-I9505 version only. What you said was the case with the SGS3 but now the Exynos version (GT-I9500) will be officially in only few Europe countries.
gilbnx said:
I think that the lack of LTE for the i9500 is now updated. This is the spec from the website I've ordered the i9500 from:
Network: 2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE): 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz; 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz; 4G (LTE Cat 3 100/50Mbps) : up to 6 different band sets(Dependent on market)
Display: 5 inch Full HD Super AMOLED (1920 x 1080) display, 441 ppi
Processor: 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor
OS: Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean)
(they had the rest of the spec, cam, etc. but its not relevant for this thread).
This is the site: http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s-4-smartphone-black-mist-16gb-unlocked-247538/
As you can see, it is the 1.6Ghz Octa core and it does support LTE per this spec. The question is - will it work with the US (T-mo and AT&T) bands?
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Negative. I spoke to them and had them look up the exact model with their procurement. The version they are getting is sourced from South America and DOES NOT have LTE despite it saying so on their website. It appears that many websites have made this same mistake because like Expansys they have simply reposted Samsungs description but it does not discern between the Korean version which is an Octa with LTE and the rest of the (announced) Octa variants which do not have LTE.
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International phones are on International Baseband. US phones are on us baseband. If they were the same then there would be no US-International. It would just be one baseband. So i doubt it will but you can still be open to possibilities.
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Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.
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Can I ask, where did you preorder the GT-i9500?
Just remember, buying international phones is a PAIN for warranty. So be careful.
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Just remember, buying international phones is a PAIN for warranty. So be careful.
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Warranty is not really an issue for me, just need to know where I can get the Exynos variant.
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Warranty is not really an issue for me, just need to know where I can get the Exynos variant.
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Negri or expansys
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Negri or expansys
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I've seen that, but their descriptions are really confusing. Some marked LTE, some marked LTA (not sure what that means), and some are marked just GT-i9500. Those which are marked just GT-i9500 say that they come with a quad-core, which should not be; the GT-i9500 is supposed to be octa-core. GT-i9505 is quad-core.
Which is which? Also, there are 16, 32, 64GB versions on the website; I doubt we will be seeing something higher than the 16GB version for the release.
Also, if I order the octa-core version. When will I get it, approximately?
Hi,
I'm having real trouble finding info on this so I hope you can help.
I have a standard 3uk 3g micro sim card in my international GS3. Can I use this card in an LTE enabled GS3. Is the LTE device backward compatable. I don't expect to get LTE coverage I just need to know if my sim will work as normal in an LTE device.
Yeah it is. If there's no 4G it should revert to whats next available such as 3G
Murdhie said:
Hi,
I'm having real trouble finding info on this so I hope you can help.
I have a standard 3uk 3g micro sim card in my international GS3. Can I use this card in an LTE enabled GS3. Is the LTE device backward compatable. I don't expect to get LTE coverage I just need to know if my sim will work as normal in an LTE device.
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Thank you for your reply. Amazing how hard it is to find info on such a simple question. Called three and the guy couldn't grasp what I meant.
Thanks again.
I seem to recall reading somewhere (but now I can't find it) that SprinT is coming out with an S4 with greater capability - i.e., some new LTE band, perhaps the former Nextel band?
I'm eligible for an upgrade, but don't want to buy if there is a revision coming shortly.
Anyone know anything about this?
ronwi2 said:
I seem to recall reading somewhere (but now I can't find it) that SprinT is coming out with an S4 with greater capability - i.e., some new LTE band, perhaps the former Nextel band?
I'm eligible for an upgrade, but don't want to buy if there is a revision coming shortly.
Anyone know anything about this?
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Isn't nextel 800 frequency and I believe the current gs4 is capable of it. I may be wrong.
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The current S4 is capable of the 800 frequency that iden was using. Once activated our phone is capable. In Korea they have the S4 with the Snapdragon 800 processor that is capable of lte advanced network, but no carrier in the US even has a LTE advanced network so it doesn't matter. Korea always has the newest and best tech.
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Its capable of 800 voice. This device only supports band 25 1900 lte. Sprint has equipment up for 800 data but wont be running for a while. That's from multiple places on s4gru. They won't get a multi band lte device for a few months.
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The current S4 is capable of the 800 frequency that iden was using. Once activated our phone is capable. In Korea they have the S4 with the Snapdragon 800 processor that is capable of lte advanced network, but no carrier in the US even has a LTE advanced network so it doesn't matter. Korea always has the newest and best tech.
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You probably read about the new S4 coming out in Korea with a 2.3ghz processor, as said above the Snapdragon 800, that'll be running on Korea's first (first ever in the world actually) commercial LTE-A network. I don't think Sprint would be rolling out a new network with their LTE still being very limited.
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You probably read about the new S4 coming out in Korea with a 2.3ghz processor, as said above the Snapdragon 800, that'll be running on Korea's first (first ever in the world actually) commercial LTE-A network. I don't think Sprint would be rolling out a new network with their LTE still being very limited.
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Yes that's what I said in my post. That is the lte advanced S4 and will not be in the USA because we don't have any lte advanced networks here.
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Its capable of 800 voice. This device only supports band 25 1900 lte. Sprint has equipment up for 800 data but wont be running for a while. That's from multiple places on s4gru. They won't get a multi band lte device for a few months.
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Okay just so we are all clear, everyone can mark my words, there will not be a newer better Sprint S4 coming out thats supports any LTEA network. That phone will be in Korea because they have cell networks that can support LTEA phones. This is what the current S4 supports for Sprint LTE: Band 25; CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/850/1900MHz; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
I should have made it clear that I was talking about this CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/850/1900MHz when I said our phones support the 800 spectrum that used to be iDEN.
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Its capable of 800 voice. This device only supports band 25 1900 lte. Sprint has equipment up for 800 data but wont be running for a while. That's from multiple places on s4gru. They won't get a multi band lte device for a few months.
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OK, so Sprint will have 800 Mhz LTE, by the end of the year per this article:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/05/21/sprint-triband-devices-smartphones/
but the S4 will not be able to use the 800 Mhz frequency for data?
ronwi2 said:
OK, so Sprint will have 800 Mhz LTE, by the end of the year per this article:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/05/21/sprint-triband-devices-smartphones/
but the S4 will not be able to use the 800 Mhz frequency for data?
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Look at my post above it shows what lte band is supported and which CDMA spectrum is supported. The S4 does not support 800MHz lte data.
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GiantJay said:
Yes that's what I said in my post. That is the lte advanced S4 and will not be in the USA because we don't have any lte advanced networks here.
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Yes obviously, that's why I gave you the +1..
I was supporting what you said and my post was to further explain it to the OP.
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Yes obviously, that's why I gave you the +1..
I was supporting what you said and my post was to further explain it to the OP.
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Ahhhh, another misinterpreted post by me. :thumbup:
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GiantJay said:
Look at my post above it shows what lte band is supported and which CDMA spectrum is supported. The S4 does not support 800MHz lte data.
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I don't understand your response - isn't what I said consistent with your post?
The S4 does not support 800 Mhz LTE, but Sprint will have 800 Mhz LTE by the end of the year. Isn't this a problem - Sprint will be utilizing 800 Mhz for data because it is better at penetrating buildings, but the S4 will not support that band?
ronwi2 said:
I don't understand your response - isn't what I said consistent with your post?
The S4 does not support 800 Mhz LTE, but Sprint will have 800 Mhz LTE by the end of the year. Isn't this a problem - Sprint will be utilizing 800 Mhz for data because it is better at penetrating buildings, but the S4 will not support that band?
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You had a question mark at the end of your sentence so I was answering your question. What you said is correct.
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ronwi2 said:
I don't understand your response - isn't what I said consistent with your post?
The S4 does not support 800 Mhz LTE, but Sprint will have 800 Mhz LTE by the end of the year. Isn't this a problem - Sprint will be utilizing 800 Mhz for data because it is better at penetrating buildings, but the S4 will not support that band?
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But it will still use 1900. You will still have lte. Cant wait for 800. 1900 seems to be like wimax a lot. Dropping off inside
I am trying to work out what I need to do get a pentaband model Note 4 when it comes out. I have tried to research this through the history of the Note 3 but I'm still confused. Ideally (coming from a Nexus 5) I want the phone unlocked (bootloader and SIM) and I need all five UMTS bands including 1700. I believe I could get what I need from T-Mobile but getting it would be a bit of a pain. Could I get what I need from Wind? It seems all Canadian models are the same (W8) but they just have different ROMs that only enable some of the frequencies? Is it the case that there are just simply two models of hardware - Exynos and Snapdragon and with the latter you can put any carrier-specific ROM on it? Coming from the Nexus world this plethora of models is all very confusing.
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I am trying to work out what I need to do get a pentaband model Note 4 when it comes out. I have tried to research this through the history of the Note 3 but I'm still confused. Ideally (coming from a Nexus 5) I want the phone unlocked (bootloader and SIM) and I need all five UMTS bands including 1700. I believe I could get what I need from T-Mobile but getting it would be a bit of a pain. Could I get what I need from Wind? It seems all Canadian models are the same (W8) but they just have different ROMs that only enable some of the frequencies? Is it the case that there are just simply two models of hardware - Exynos and Snapdragon and with the latter you can put any carrier-specific ROM on it? Coming from the Nexus world this plethora of models is all very confusing.
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I'm in a similar boat to you on Wind Mobile.
The Snapdragon version will probably be the one you want to get, as the Exynos versions have historically received very little development, owing largely to Samsung's lack of documentation. Note 3 Exynos I think did not even get CM, because of Samsung's lack of documentation.
Gobi 9x35 model should be accompanying the Snapdragon 805.
It should support the following:
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
It's likely that there will be a Wind variant that comes out later this year. Historically, Wind has taken a couple of months after launch b efore getting it.
I was reading elsewhere that T-Mobile won't sell me an unlocked phone unless I've been a customer of theirs for a while. So what I'm seeing is this:
a) The only versions I can buy online such as from deltamobiles or canadagsm or expansys are the Exynos version which has no 1700 band support.
b) Wind might not release the Note 4 for months after other carriers.
c) I can't buy one from T-Mobile even if I drive over the border to get one in person.
Seems like a pretty screwed-up system to me. Looks like I might as well just stay in the Nexus family and get the Nexus 6. Samsung sales are already down and with the iPhone 6 there are already reports of many people making the move to iOS now that they have bigger screens. Samsung needs to make the buying experience easier if they have any hope of staying in the game.
sauron0101 said:
I'm in a similar boat to you on Wind Mobile.
The Snapdragon version will probably be the one you want to get, as the Exynos versions have historically received very little development, owing largely to Samsung's lack of documentation. Note 3 Exynos I think did not even get CM, because of Samsung's lack of documentation.
Gobi 9x35 model should be accompanying the Snapdragon 805.
It should support the following:
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
It's likely that there will be a Wind variant that comes out later this year. Historically, Wind has taken a couple of months after launch b efore getting it.
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t-mobile/videotron/Wind.....same phone same band...
if my memory dont drive me wrong...t-mobile and videotron are on the 4g (hspda) 1700 band not sure about Wind however...
That makes sense to me but was that actually the case with the Note 3?I thought all Canadian carriers had the same W8 model?