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Upcoming Android Phones?

Just curious to know if there are any details of upcoming Android phones in the year 2012? I have searched Google extensively but details appear to be very scarce.
Personally I would like to get a non-hardware keyboard phone for my next one (my last three HTC phones have had keyboards, and you can probably guess which phones they were!). So ideally would like a fairly thin phone, but with a decent battery in it. Would also like much more onboard storage (32gb).
Unfortunately details for upcoming phones seem to be heavily under lock and key.

What's after GNexus
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. After the GNexus, everyone's tight lipped about what they're coming up with.
Just tried a GNexus at the Bell Store (Canada) and didn't walk out too impressed. So I'm now anxiously waiting on other vendors to step up the game and introduce those ICS ready, less capacitive buttons phones already.
Let's see what they have in store for us in 2012.

we shud get something future proof. desire z is good. yes they can use ICS. but we lack a lot of cool feature. maybe like NFC? /: hope new phones are cheap and awesome like dz.

nelsdzyre said:
we shud get something future proof. desire z is good. yes they can use ICS. but we lack a lot of cool feature. maybe like NFC? /: hope new phones are cheap and awesome like dz.
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The top of range of the new phones, one that is unanimously considered fantastic, will probably cost a hell of a lot. But as long as it isn't priced silly like an iPhone, then I won't mind taking out a 2 year contract if the phone is really good and ticks all the boxes.

I'm hanging onto my Desire Z till HTC comes out with another slide-out keyboard phone...

I want a new phone to replace my Vision - anyone heard any rumours about any decent qwerty handsets coming out?

Only ones I've heard about are the Dell Hancock and Motorola Droid 4 (RAZR with a keyboard). Both of which I doubt will get released in the UK.
It's a shame HTC haven't announced anything because my contract's up soon and I'm wanting a new toy to play with.

GSMarena seems to have the good list of phones, and some rumored ones too. I feel it's more a case of ditching hardware keyboards because of more time, money and resources needed to make them. Maybe that's why HTC is able to crank out so many touch phones but rarely any keyboard ones.
The few best out there are the Samsung i927 and Motorola XT860. Both are on dual core processors.
Here's the current list via GSMarena search for 800Mhz, 512mb RAM and up phones.

:-/
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(

moarnao said:
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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Yep, seems like "the best" supported QWERTY out there right now, factoring dev support is the Mytouch 4g Slide. G2 comes the second. As far as I can tell, the dev on the MT4GS on CM9 has posted youtubes of his progress in their section. It looks on par with the progress of our DZ ICS roms.
But I don't want to drop my plan and head over to T-mobile. I'm comfortable with my provider.
I hope it doesn't come to the day QWERTY phones become a dying breed esp with XDA devs. The lack of "must-have" QWERTY releases are making it look like it is.

moarnao said:
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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Indeed. Next QWERTY phone or G3 like successor better have quadcore support, hi-grade build quality, all the feature of current flagships, heck GLONASS support and definitely no provider advertized phone like the mytouch series, plain factory phones only.
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Well, if Apple has their way in court, there won't be any Android phones anymore. They are winning patent case after patent case, and their goal is to shut Android down and have a monopoly on the smartphone market. Some think android is in real trouble... though it will likely be a case of Google having to pay a truckload of money to Apple. Gotta love modern capitalism....

Sheesh, didn't know the legal battle between them was serious enough for an OS extinction. The patent system is seriously corrupted.
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I know.. suing over the slide to lock and unlock???? Wtf? How can you patent an idea? It was an idea at the time apple filed a patent for it, way before the 1st Gen iPhone came into being.
Your right about patents killing a OS.
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Sheesh, didn't know the legal battle between them was serious enough for an OS extinction. The patent system is seriously corrupted.
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Apple just banned the sale of all HTC phones running Froyo and below, including the G2 (without upgrade), starting in April. If it keeps going this way, Apple will take over.

Stargazer418 said:
Apple just banned the sale of all HTC phones running Froyo and below, including the G2 (without upgrade), starting in April. If it keeps going this way, Apple will take over.
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You mean filed a lawsuit to ban them, good luck apple...good luck. I for one am happy to see apple wasting buttloads of cash on crying about android. Next quarter they'll slip even more
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This is ridiculous. How does the DZ/G2 or even hardware keyboard phones come close to the function of an iPhone?

kaijura said:
This is ridiculous. How does the DZ/G2 or even hardware keyboard phones come close to the function of an iPhone?
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They're superior and sell more...hence why apple is jealous...they should be used to it by now wouldn't u think?
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Apple just lost one of them to Samsung recently. I really doubt they will win because they are downright ridiculous. I think the judges are starting to realize that apple is just sue-happy and thinks everyone stole their work. Pretty soon they start suing the produce guys claiming they stole their name lol! Idiots!
I'm curious about a new qwerty HTC also. The only newer choice we have is the MyTouch 4G Slide but it has ZERO dev support. I guess I'll see if I can make it until the next G model or something. My G2 is in pretty good shape so I'll be okay for a while, I hope
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Yep, seems like "the best" supported QWERTY out there right now, factoring dev support is the Mytouch 4g Slide. G2 comes the second. As far as I can tell, the dev on the MT4GS on CM9 has posted youtubes of his progress in their section. It looks on par with the progress of our DZ ICS roms.
But I don't want to drop my plan and head over to T-mobile. I'm comfortable with my provider.
I hope it doesn't come to the day QWERTY phones become a dying breed esp with XDA devs. The lack of "must-have" QWERTY releases are making it look like it is.
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Wha? They have literally 4 whole pages of their development section lol! what are you talking about?!

Unfortunately, Apple has taken the road of "if you can't beat em, sue em". They are just pissed because somebody came around, and gave people what they wanted, instead of TOLD them what they wanted. Like how about big screen smartphones, and the ability to move files without having to use Apple's crappy iTunes bloatware? And now they wonder why Android has taken the smartphone marketshare from them.
Now Apple is burning the bridges with other companies that made the iPhone what it is, in an attempt to extort Android from the top spot. Samsung has made the CPUs for all the iPhones, and the memory chips for many of them, until recently where Apple is now trying to move to other suppliers, so it can more easily attack Samsung without repercussions. And how useless would the iPhone be without the Google search engine, or Google Maps? Some have postulated that the iPhone location logging debacle earlier this year was an indication that Apple is trying to come up with a map and navigation solution so it can break away from Google.
Hopefully, the recent patent ruling against HTC will be tied up with appeals and countersuits. I don't see the smartphone landscape changing just from a few patent suits. And hopefully that would never happen, as I enjoy having a smartphone that actually acts like a computer, not a closed architecture iPod.
Back to the OP, it seems like HTC's is just starting to reveal specs on its 2012 devices. Of interest are the Elite (4.7" display and LTE on AT&T), the Ville (4.3" AMOLED display, dual core 1.5 GHz CPU) and the Edge (4.7" SLCD and quad core 1.5 GHz NVIDIA CPU). Unfortunately, no hint of anything with a hardware keyboard anytime soon, AFAIK.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/19/htc-elite-flagship-phone-and-4g-lte-windows-phone-to-hit-att-in-early-2012/
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/htc-ville-detailed-htc-sense-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-thinner-than-iphone/
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/08/htc-edge-to-lead-the-smartphone-pack-with-quad-core-cpu-optically-laminated-display-and-unibody-design/
The HTC Vivid (released on AT&T earlier this month) looks pretty nice. But the body is a little too angular and plastic for my liking. It seems that HTC might be (thankfully) going back to the aluminum unibody that it has become known for.

Poor old HTC

So in light of the following news are HTC going to bring out something special or just quietly dye by the way side?
http://www.androidguys.com/2012/07/30/htc-closes-south-korea-office-due-to-slow-sales-samsung-hurting-profits/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
Bear in mind the current fiasco with ICS and the Desire HD.
So are you going to jump the HTC ship?

Ya well, the one series was a miss with consumers at large ,can't imagine what would have happened if the one x for example had sd card storage and a battery access

We can only hope they die a quick but painful death.
... unless they release ics source code then i don't care what they do.
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I am already planning my jump over to Samsung rightly or wrongly, but they are talking about launching JB on the S3 and even the S2 in the very near future! And from what I have seen they seem to deliver what they say!

Well I wouldn't want them to die, afterall competition is always good, however I've decided that my DHD shall be my last HTC phone after all that has happened. I'm contemplating on waiting for the next Google phone, immediate updates and a bugless AOSP experience, what else could one ask for?

That is what you get when you mess with all the HTC Desire HD owners!!! Not releasing ICS for their most sold phone and telling their costumers lies about HTC Desire HD performance. And the same with HTC Desire.
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atrako1973 said:
Ya well, the one series was a miss with consumers at large ,can't imagine what would have happened if the one x for example had sd card storage and a battery access
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Agreed, I cant believe they would release such a retarded phone and a clear attempt to copy the iPhone business model.
I'm due upgrade now but think ill just stick with my DHD.
They should have concentrated all efforts on savage battery life combined with expansion of mem.

That is the general consensus I am feeling form this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396842
It’s a shame that a company with a lot of promise has now just peed of its fan base and almost washed their hand of them.
If you look at the number of ROMs in the development thread you can see that people pretty much rooted their HTC Desire HD as soon as they got them as the hardware far out preformed the software that was loaded and any potential update (although we all knew these wouldn’t come to light! lol )

FatRocker666 said:
That is the general consensus I am feeling form this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396842
It’s a shame that a company with a lot of promise has now just peed of its fan base and almost washed their hand of them.
If you look at the number of ROMs in the development thread you can see that people pretty much rooted their HTC Desire HD as soon as they got them as the hardware far out preformed the software that was loaded and any potential update (although we all knew these wouldn’t come to light! lol )
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Don't forget Samsung is from South Korea, so why keep spending money on SK if you know that "everyone" in SK has a Samsung phone :silly:
I hope they won't cancel the ICS update for developers. They had the same problem with Gingerbread update for the Desire.
They never released it as an OTA update, but they released it for developers.
So let's hope they do the same with Desire HD (in the future).
About One-series. It's indeed a sad story, but I think why most people didn't bought the One-phones was because most of them were probably waiting to see the Galaxy SIII and it seems that the SIII is the number one choice now for lots of Android users.

That or the New Galaxy Nexus (fingers crossed it won’t be produced by HTC) that will ruin the Nexus name IMO

FatRocker666 said:
That or the New Galaxy Nexus (fingers crossed it won’t be produced by HTC) that will ruin the Nexus name IMO
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Why would HTC ruin it? I like HTC's hardware

1 months ago I planned to buy the One X along with one of my best friends and I almost sell my DHD (it even already entered the "For Sale" thread in one of Indonesia's largest community forum). But after I read so much informations from early adopter of One X about how bad is the HTC's quality control over One X hardware productions I hold my decisions to upgrade because I don't wanna spend my time dealing with HTC service center.

ScarfaceMT said:
Well I wouldn't want them to die, afterall competition is always good, however I've decided that my DHD shall be my last HTC phone after all that has happened. I'm contemplating on waiting for the next Google phone, immediate updates and a bugless AOSP experience, what else could one ask for?
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i know some1 who has the one x , personaly i dont like it yes better screen but it looks to plasticy as for not having expandable memory that has def put me off , it was a realy silly move on htcs part but they seem to be doing a lot of those latley

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Tierd of htc, they were the best option when i bought my dhd. The new one series cant beat s3 imo. Im going for nexus next, nothing beats (not even s3) the new android stock interface.
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Probably gonna get this because Samsung won't release any info.

I'm probably gonna get the one because HTC got me all excited with the specs. I've always been a Samsung fan but since there's nothing really known about it I'm too hyped up about this phone to change my mind. Lol poor Samsung lost a buyer.
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I'm getting it because of the quality of the phone and the huge amount of development this phone will have due to it being release to so many carriers
Slithered from my HTC One X+

spitfire2425 said:
I'm probably gonna get the one because HTC got me all excited with the specs. I've always been a Samsung fan but since there's nothing really known about it I'm too hyped up about this phone to change my mind. Lol poor Samsung lost a buyer.
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Haha Im sure you won't be disappointed, especially with the excellent build quality of the HTC One. Also nice Avatar, A Day to Remember is great.

The phone looks simply beautiful. Kinda sad that its not a full 5". Adtr is like my favorite band. Homesick is basically all I play in my truck.
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Better try to wait until s4 revealed then compare it and decide...
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Samsung will never beat HTC in the design and materials,that's why I stick to HTC, I love how they give us premium devices

vegetaleb said:
Samsung will never beat HTC in the design and materials,that's why I stick to HTC, I love how they give us premium devices
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Exactly :good:
If you want toys, go for Samsung. If you want solid smartphones, go for HTC

Samsung phones are for sure easier to hack and easy to fix if something goes wrong.
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Samsung phones are for sure easier to hack and easy to fix if something goes wrong.
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Not really
Slithered from my HTC One X+

Or you could just wait till march...I mean it isn't that far away and you will then have all the info you need for a decision. That is what I'm doing. Plus I don't usually like to be the early adopter of the first batch of new products...always seems to be some sort of problem that pops up.
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Ddot196 said:
Or you could just wait till march...I mean it isn't that far away and you will then have all the info you need for a decision. That is what I'm doing. Plus I don't usually like to be the early adopter of the first batch of new products...always seems to be some sort of problem that pops up.
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saying that i have brought htc desire and htc sensation on launch date and neither has had a problem. But i have heard stories of problems with new phones.
Lets hope htc have done enough testing on this one to make sure they are only little!

Well I probably won't be able to get a phone in march anyways, gotta wait for some other stuff to clear up so I'll have plenty of time to make my decision.
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What specs do you want Samsung to announce?
The gap between HTC one X and the S3 was about 2 months.. Its less than a month this time around.
Not sure what you expect from Samsung.
Its almost certainly going to be'
5" , 1080p, 441ppi, 13mp camera, 2600mah battery, 1.9ghz S600 and 2gb ram.
The One looks great and I'm seriously considering getting it.. but I'll wait to see what Samsung has to offer...

Exactly. I read on gsmarena that the s4 will have a full 2.0 GHz processor. Guess we'll just have to see.
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superchilpil said:
Not really
Slithered from my HTC One X+
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I don't know about fixing... But rooting/flashing..... Have you tried Odin? OMG, 5 Minutes and WHABAM.... Much easier
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superchilpil said:
I'm getting it because of the quality of the phone and the huge amount of development this phone will have due to it being release to so many carriers
Slithered from my HTC One X+
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thats actually a pretty good point :good:

Odin rocks. It literally takes longer to download it and set it up than it takes to flash a recovery. There's no boot loader to unlock and you don't have to s-off.
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Blind loyalty is dangerous. HTC rushed the launch of the One X and had tons of problems with it. The DNA/Butterfly seems to be faring better. An all-metal mobile device with multiple radios/antennas is a risky move. Every manufacturer that tried it before (including Apple) has had wireless issues. Based on that, victory rallies and celebration for both HTC and the One should be held off until after it’s been in people's hands for a few months. HTC’s never had any issues with hyping their devices but sometimes that hype has been ahead of the actual device/functionality. So the One could be a turning point for them (I hope it is) or its forum could light up with issues like the One X's did. It's way too early to call.
As for the SGS4. Samsung has a multi-billion dollar chip business and spends billions on R&D specifically for that division. To launch the SGS4 which should sell upward of 50MM units with a competitors SoC is asinine and that SoC would be used for a year's worth of production. Same thing applies to moving to LCD with their huge investment in AMOLED. For them to launch a "me too" device that mirrors the One and XZ would be marketing suicide and they know that. Most of the rumors everyone's picking up originated with Samfirmware which is hardly a reliable source based on their track record. If I was betting, I'd go with the SGS4 having a Samsung SoC and SAMOLED display in addition to other new features not on competitive phones. We'll see in three weeks.

yea i think we need to remind those defect figures were only in the first three months or so after a couple of month build quality picked up immensly
but BarryH is right, early adopters oftern burn
that being said, i think HTC experimented with the DNA/Butterfly well enough to prepare for this launch
this leaves the metal casing, i don't think anything can go awfully wrong just dont hug it and expect signal
There is one big difference to the One X launch
the One X was HTC's first polycarbonate unibody, in metal they are experts, and the One X was really rushed even shipped with freaky unfinished software, the HTC One seems to have been cooking for quiet a while and they are already pretty experienced with those chipsets

So many freaking amazing things about these phones. The decision is becoming waay tough.
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Buying the HTC One seems risky

I always like more and more competition since its better for the consumer. Just that the idea of buying the HTC One scares me regarding future support (updates / warranty / resale value) :-/
I loved my nexus one... but I'm sure we can all agree that HTC has been in a rough stretch sales wise. Less sales starts the bad spiral of less money -> less marketing -> less customers -> less pull with carriers -> less R&D -> less user base -> less accessories -> less support etc.
I guess I'm the only one that's worried to buy from a company that seems to be on its last hope
Of course the loyalists will flame me because they are protective of HTC's image and that's ok (because I can appreciate being a fan). But is there anyone else out there that has had this worry about buying the One as well? I'd like to hear your thoughts even if they are negative
http://mobile.pcmag.com/?ref=299983&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcmag.com%2Farticle2%2F0%2C2817%2C2406787%2C00.asp
HTC said its profits dropped by more than half this past quarter - July 2012
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HTC doesn’t seem to be doing too well lately, even after the big launch of the One series, and the much praised HTC One X smartphone. Yesterday they said that their sales fell by 45% in the month of July compared to the same month last year, from T$45.11 billion to T$25 billion ($834 million). The sales were also down compared the previous month by T$5 billion. - August 2012
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Who said Android manufacturers didn’t deliver on their word? OK, maybe not always on software updates but HTC is living up to its promise of crappy sales. Earlier this week the Taiwanese giant announced it expected this quarter’s sales numbers to be down as much as 17% over the first quarter of 2012. - February 2013
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March and April shipment numbers for Taiwan’s star-crossed smartphone champion may be gruesome indeed and it is possible that the HTC One won’t ship more than 300,000 units globally even during April. HTC can only hope that consumer interest will remain high even as the Xperia Z price drifts down, the Galaxy S4 debuts and the summer iPhone buzz starts peaking. - March 2013
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HTC isn't going anywhere, and in the most extreme case they would merely be purchased off
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Re: Buying the HTC One seems dangerous
As a proud owner of an HTC rezound (htc's long lost orphan child) r&d couldn't have been better. With our small community of talented devs this phone has countless roms, cm, pac, ported sense 4.x you name it...
R&D won't be a problem on the one, which will sell way more than the rezound.
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mouzaihem said:
HTC isn't going anywhere, and in the most extreme case they would merely be purchased off
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I can agree with being purchase off eventually. But in the meantime, like a bleeding wounded animal, they would cut spending at various key departments in order to stave off having to be bought out... which cuts into the HTC One marketing and customer base, limiting the resale demand and market share for that phone.
Also if they are bought out / merged is there any thing guaranteeing a past 1 year, out of warranty repair could be given if needed? Say your 1 day out of warranty and your battery completely dies.

You're at risk buying coffee at starbucks in the morning. Some one might accidently pour some rat poison in it....another useless...well, do I even need to say it...
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coupetastic-droid said:
You're at risk buying coffee at starbucks in the morning. Some one might accidently pour some rat poison in it...
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Being maliciously poisoned by someone or any other random car accident/plane crash type example is different than trying to make a calculated decision about an electronics purchase.
That would be like telling someone who is weighing the risks versus benefits of buying a particular stock "Ah who cares? you might get poisoned at Starbucks anyways."

I have used no smartphones BUT htc since the ppc6700 and I won't be buying the one. First and foremost I'm just pissed at the game htc pays with source code being released right before or after a version becomes replaced. Going with s4 if the fabled mastodon nexus 5 doesn't come to fruition in short order. I think the one is pretty much a one x with stuff removed (a button here, an sd card there) in that respect it's aptly named although it becomes a bit confusing. One x s v and now just one?
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adamlee011 said:
I have used no smartphones BUT htc since the ppc6700 and I won't be buying the one. First and foremost I'm just pissed at the game htc pays with source code being released right before or after a version becomes replaced. Going with s4 if the fabled mastodon nexus 5 doesn't come to fruition in short order. I think the one is pretty much a one x with stuff removed (a button here, an sd card there) in that respect it's aptly named although it becomes a bit confusing. One x s v and now just one?
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This isn't a thread to be mad at HTC and say all the reasons your are pissed at them and why you are not buying a One. The topic of this thread is simply talking about being uncertain/worried about buying a One due to risks of HTC's future. Please don't hijack the thread over other topics. Thank you :good:

ap3604 said:
This isn't a thread to be mad at HTC and say all the reasons your are pissed at them and why you are not buying a One. The topic of this thread is simply talking about being uncertain/worried about buying a One due to risks of HTC's future. Please don't hijack the thread over other topics. Thank you :good:
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HTC is declining for sure, but I don't think ut will be dead anytime in 3 years. HTC still holds cash on hand(earned before 2012). Their problem is going less and less profitable, not fighting for last breath.

ap3604 said:
This isn't a thread to be mad at HTC and say all the reasons your are pissed at them and why you are not buying a One. The topic of this thread is simply talking about being uncertain/worried about buying a One due to risks of HTC's future. Please don't hijack the thread over other topics. Thank you :good:
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I think you can be confident that this phone's lifespan will last at least as long as HTC will...part of that's unfortunately because HTC doesn't exactly have a fantastic history of supporting their own devices, but developers certainly do, and I have a feeling the One will be at least as popular with the dev community as the One XL was - and I think the XL still has a good, long life ahead of it.
So, even if HTC vanishes from the face of the Earth, devs will keep it alive :good:

Being someone who bit the bullet with Palm/HP webOS, I think that threads like these are ridiculous. If you like the phone, why does it matter? I received a number of replacement Palm Pres through my carrier even after Palm was bought out. If there is an issue with the One it will likely be handled the same way. As for resale value... If it lasts you two years you have effectively paid about 25 bucks a month assuming it costs 600 bucks. I think the One will probably be worth that to me, and that is assuming you won't get a penny in resale value.
Maybe I'm alone in this, but the phone you use every day has to be worth something to you, and maybe if the One isn't worth 25 bucks a month for two years, you could return it and get a GS4 or wait for something else instead of worrying about what it will be worth when you're done with it.
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ap3604 said:
This isn't a thread to be mad at HTC and say all the reasons your are pissed at them and why you are not buying a One. The topic of this thread is simply talking about being uncertain/worried about buying a One due to risks of HTC's future. Please don't hijack the thread over other topics. Thank you :good:
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My apologies. As a die hard htc customer, I thought that my opinion might be reflective of the mistakes they might be making that you seem concerned about. That said, they are still one of the top (2?) manufacturers and are far from tanking. Support shouldn't be an issue. If you like that phone, I see absolutely no reason for concern.
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The amount of negativity on here is ridiculous.
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ap3604 said:
"Being MALICIOUSLY poisoned by someone"
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coupetastic-droid said:
"Some one might ACCIDENTLY pour some rat poison in it...."
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Thanx for reading...
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Actually HTC has great update track record. I think only Asus is better. I would be more scared of buying Sony or Samsung. Especially for all the rumors that Samsung is leaving Android in favor of their own OS.
And don't forget that HTC decided to only have 1 flagship device they will update faster.
And HTC must have a lot of money left because in Germany their commercials are everywhere. And they are major UEFA sponsor. Only biggest company's can afford that.
And as it looks HTC One is selling like crazy right now. Not at all strange as almost all reviewers love it and praise it.

ap3604 said:
I always like more and more competition since its better for the consumer. Just that the idea of buying the HTC One scares me regarding future support (updates / warranty / resale value) :-/
I loved my nexus one... but I'm sure we can all agree that HTC has been in a rough stretch sales wise. Less sales starts the bad spiral of less money -> less marketing -> less customers -> less pull with carriers -> less R&D -> less user base -> less accessories -> less support etc.
I guess I'm the only one that's worried to buy from a company that seems to be on its last hope
Of course the loyalists will flame me because they are protective of HTC's image and that's ok (because I can appreciate being a fan). But is there anyone else out there that has had this worry about buying the One as well? I'd like to hear your thoughts even if they are negative
http://mobile.pcmag.com/?ref=299983&url=http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406787,00.asp
http://m.androidauthority.com/htcs-sales-down-45-in-july-compared-to-a-year-ago-106036/
http://www.talkandroid.com/150068-htc-reports-january-sales-down-6-percent-year-on-year/
http://bgr.com/2013/03/26/htc-one-l.../?utm_source=b-yahoo-orig_pub&utm_medium=feed
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Yep. I also worry about future support. HTC is notorious for slow updates
coupetastic-droid said:
You're at risk buying coffee at starbucks in the morning. Some one might accidently pour some rat poison in it....another useless...well, do I even need to say it...
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You get the award for the worst analogy ever
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Like I said before HTC is not in a state where they are losing their business. They're just having lesser profit(income) compared to the past years. Now if anybody here thinks that $36million income in a quarter of a year is small then give me $1million on my paypal account right now lol!
And yeah having lower profit on the 1st quarter is expected by HTC.
1. They haven't released new phones.
2. They made budgets for the release of their HTC One(Where do you think they would get their budget for it?)
3. Obviously their past phones did really not sell out.
Now with the HTC One coming I'm pretty sure their profit would surge out this 2nd quarter. To think their stocks now jumped in by +9.65% they are obviously earning big time on the HTC One right now even considering it's not yet widely released and lack of availability.

cntchds said:
Being someone who bit the bullet with Palm/HP webOS, I think that threads like these are ridiculous. If you like the phone, why does it matter? I received a number of replacement Palm Pres through my carrier even after Palm was bought out. If there is an issue with the One it will likely be handled the same way. As for resale value... If it lasts you two years you have effectively paid about 25 bucks a month assuming it costs 600 bucks. I think the One will probably be worth that to me, and that is assuming you won't get a penny in resale value.
Maybe I'm alone in this, but the phone you use every day has to be worth something to you, and maybe if the One isn't worth 25 bucks a month for two years, you could return it and get a GS4 or wait for something else instead of worrying about what it will be worth when you're done with it.
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This is one of the most sensible things I've read on xda. Ever.
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As this thread doesn't discuss features of the device but is rather discussing HTC alleged financial situation its now closed before it really becomes a fanboy battleground..

HTC quarterly profit goes down again

http://m.cnet.com/news/htc-q1-profit-plunges-98-percent-despite-htc-one-launch/57582382
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HTC has had a hard time following a clear strategy for the last 2 years or so and still, they keep making profit.
The development and marketing around their new devices (and mostly the One) is expensive, and now that their flagship device is available, hopefully the situation will get better and better.
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It's Quarter 1(January to March) profit statistics. We all know HTC didn't release much handset in the 1st quarter of the year yet aggressively doing pre advertisments of the device.
On the 1st quarter only a limited part of the UK market got the HTC One so it is to be expected.
Starting on April HTC released the handset on Taiwan, All of Europe, Middle East & US and this May they're planning on releasing the handset globally. So it really makes sense if you ask me.
Even HTC indeed expects this.
The company did not reveal how many units of the HTC One it has so far sold, but said it expected revenues to jump in the second quarter to NT$70 billion.
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No wonder, hTC is now a sinking ship:crying:

mathen said:
No wonder, hTC is now a sinking ship:crying:
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Isn't this the exact same news piece done early last month?

The revenues arent down too much..
Guess they spent a lot on the One.. getting parts, making the phone, market research, designing blah blah.
The One's sales will show in Q2

Guys did any of you notice that this whole Q1 HTC didn't even release the phone?
So calm down and let the HTC One rise it's stock. You'll see the results in Q2
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If HTC posts a loss in Q2 then be worried. Like the others have said, Q1 nothing much was going on except the building of the One.

Why do some people say it's a sinking ship? They are still posting profits despite taking some risks and experimenting. Now that nothing has come out in that quarter... They are doing well.
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They are still profitable. Again and again, profitable. And this was before the One was actually for sale. I bet you profits are way up next quarter.
Stop making these pointless threads.
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Element515 said:
Why do some people say it's a sinking ship? They are still posting profits despite taking some risks and experimenting. Now that nothing has come out in that quarter... They are doing well.
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That's because people here tend to earn more than $2million USD a quarter. So for them a company earning that amount is already a sinking ship lol! :fingers-crossed:

PLUS IF YOU NEED TO READ ABOUT HTC, PLEASE DONT GO TO CNET THEY ARE VERY BAISED TOWARD SAMSUNG
READ THIS AND SEE THE PICTURES AND DECIDE YOURSELF AND SEE WHO IS THE WINNER.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57581522-85/samsung-galaxy-s4-shootout-versus-htc-one-iphone-5/

Actually the one interesting thing in the article I picked up on is Samsung is expected to sell *six times* as many GS4's as HTC will sell Ones.
Why did they even *need* to pay students to troll HTC boards? That's like the Yankees feeling the need to cheat to beat Kansas City.
Whatever you may think about their phones, I can assure you Samsung doesn't *need* anyone's support at this point. Now that they've beaten Apple, they *are* the new evil empire. I personally don't root for the "overdog"...
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No one has to worried at all even if HTC go bust. The phone still works, you'll still be able to get repairs/parts or a switch to a different phone, and the world will not end. Oh, and HTC won't go bust either

I'm still pretty optimistic about HTC's future. The next quarter should be interesting once we have a better idea of how the One's launch sales stack up. In the meantime they're getting a lot of very positive coverage from all the major tech sites, which should hopefully push sales. The One is an incredible phone - hope it pays off for them.
If I was Samsung though I'd be much more worried about what Apple has up their sleeves. They're gonna have Sammy firmly in their sights, and if HTC are already sitting above them with the critics then they run the risk of potentially being shunted into third place, at least where the press are concerned. No doubt they'll still sell squillions though!

wont help with the number of replacements people keep needing.

mettleh3d said:
Isn't this the exact same news piece done early last month?
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Yes, there were business sites/articles mentioning this last month. Nothing "new" about this news. Analysts have recently been upgrading their predictions on the number of HTC Ones that will be sold in Q2 based on what they are seeing.

blah....these numbers mean nothing
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http://m.cnet.com/news/htc-q1-profit-plunges-98-percent-despite-htc-one-launch/57582382
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Old news.....we need to see sales of Q2
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simba2585 said:
wont help with the number of replacements people keep needing.
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HTC has special machines to replace parts within the device. Honestly...your better off sending it to HTC rather than getting a cheaply made part from amazon and doing it yourself....so no....replacements will be norm just like any other phone.

c5satellite2 said:
They are still profitable. Again and again, profitable. And this was before the One was actually for sale. I bet you profits are way up next quarter.
Stop making these pointless threads.
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You have absolutely no financial knowledge, lol. Please refrain from commenting on such matters.
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