waiting for a ROM for note 2 that has all the addable features from S4 and Note3. all this time the claimed reason why those features couldn't be ported was: note 2 is on android 4.1.2, but now, there is an android 4.3 leaked for Note 2. which means only one thing: the time for porting has begun
I believe kernel has to be updated first. Apparently the one in leaked version is an old 4.1.2. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe kernel has to be updated first. Apparently the one in leaked version is an old 4.1.2. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I don't know about that, but on android version it says 4.3.
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I don't know about that, but on android version it says 4.3.
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He meant that the kernel was built for 4.1.2 not 4.3, not that the leak was android version 4.1.2
We'd probably need an updated kernal as Foka002 said.
Bert.C said:
He meant that the kernel was built for 4.1.2 not 4.3, not that the leak was android version 4.1.2
We'd probably need an updated kernal as Foka002 said.
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ok so I get it. we also need the kernel, not only the android. I don't actually know how porting is done but all they said was "we need android 4.3" so I presumed android 4.3 was enough. what kernel number must it be in order to work?
He's just saying how the kernel build is outdated. The latest kernel is around 3.0.97? And I think the one on the leaked rom is around 3.0.31.
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He's just saying how the kernel build is outdated. The latest kernel is around 3.0.97? And I think the one on the leaked rom is around 3.0.31.
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seems like a minor difference
minor?haha
via Note2
The one that came with the S4 4.3 leak was 3.4
ok, then it's not that minor after all...
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The one that came with the S4 4.3 leak was 3.4
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S4 was is 4.2.2
The kernel version has nothing to do with the android version.
There are no 3.4 tree sources for the exynos4 anyway, we are left with 3.0.x until samsung decides to release the sources but that doesn't mean anything other than we are using an older revision of linux which theoretically translates to it being inferior and slower but treat it with a grain of salt. In reality it doesn't affect performance that much (or at all) and the 3.0.x can still be patched as it is in fact supported and considered the longterm stable series after all. -> https://www.kernel.org/
4.3 is 4.3 and all the apps should work as long as they don't require hardware specific modules and you provide them with libs which are required for them to function and they also support xhdpi and not only xxhdpi. The samsung framework shouldn't be that different between our leak and the s4 leak or the official 4.3 note3 rom. In fact I'm willing to bet that every app from the s4 leak will work on our leak as long as the conditions I mentioned are met. That said their stability and functionality isn't guaranteed in any way. You can't expect 4k recording all of the sudden.
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The kernel version has nothing to do with the android version.
There are no 3.4 tree sources for the exynos4 anyway, we are left with 3.0.x until samsung decides to release the sources but that doesn't mean anything other than we are using an older revision of linux which theoretically translates to it being inferior and slower but treat it with a grain of salt. In reality it doesn't affect performance that much (or at all) and the 3.0.x can still be patched as it is in fact supported and considered the longterm stable series after all. -> https://www.kernel.org/
4.3 is 4.3 and all the apps should work as long as they don't require hardware specific modules and you provide them with libs which are required for them to function and they also support xhdpi and not only xxhdpi. The samsung framework shouldn't be that different between our leak and the s4 leak or the official 4.3 note3 rom. In fact I'm willing to bet that every app from the s4 leak will work on our leak as long as the conditions I mentioned are met. That said their stability and functionality isn't guaranteed in any way. You can't expect 4k recording all of the sudden.
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ofcorse i wasn't expecting 4k... i'm not even expecting dual shot... even though it would be nice if that could happen...
has anyone noticed? we now have the ability to shoot with sound and playback those kind of images.
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I tried S3 and the Note (both with ICS installed) in a store side by side today. Although many people have mentioned that the S3 is faster, I did not notice any difference. (I have tried Note+ICS in different stores. Some devices are faster than the others for unknown reason.) The only time I saw the S3 is faster than the Note is from a youtube video which showed both devices doing the benchmarking. The S3 completed the task faster with higher score.
Anyway, I have decided to buy the Note. We all know that people who have upgraded from GB to ICS have many issues. Has anybody bought a Note with ICS pre-installed? Have you experienced the issues raised by users who upgraded from GB?
I have two choices: 1) buy the Note with GB, wait until Samsung release an updated version of the ICS with bugs fixed. 2) Buy the Note with ICS pre-installed.
I heard that down grading the OS is not possible. If I buy the Note with ICS pre-installed and I have issues raised by other users, can I install the OS made by the talented XDA developers? I heard that even the official ICS has a problem of bricking the device. If I buy the Note+ICS and not satisfied with the performance, will I be stuck?
Your advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Go for GB one. The update is already available so you can always update yourself - and what's more important GB is easy to root so you could run CM9 or any other ROM.
Seems like if I get the Note+ICS and experience problems as others reported, it is difficult to go back because the official ICS can break the device. Even Samsung gave the ICS source code to the talented developers here and a fix may be available soon, it will be too late for me to fix the device because ICS has already been pre-installed. There is no going back. Am I right?
If I decide to root and run CM9 or any other ROM later, can I still install and run Premium Suite? Can I also install the cool stuffs from S3 to the Note with CM9 or any other ROM? Touchwiz seems to be an UI made by Samsung. I heard that it slows down the device. If I root and run CM9 or any other ROM, I can opt for whether or not to install Touchwiz. Right? Won't I void the warranty if I root the device?
You can allways revert back to gingerbread if needed.
About cm9 and touchwiz. Thats a nono. Cm9 is AOSP and uses trebuchet launcher. Touchwiz is samsung own launcher that comes on top of samsung based roms.
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You can allways revert back to gingerbread if needed.
About cm9 and touchwiz. Thats a nono. Cm9 is AOSP and uses trebuchet launcher. Touchwiz is samsung own launcher that comes on top of samsung based roms.
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I am confused. Samsung told me that once upgrade to 4.0, I cannot go back to GB. Could you please clarify? What is AOSP? Is trebuchet better than touchwiz?
There is no way to downgrade to GB with built-in software updater. But you can always flash stock GB rom and revert the device to how it's been before.
AOSP is Android Open Source Project. Basically, CM9 is one of AOSP's iterations. And yes, trebuchet with CM9 is a lot better, smoother and better designed than TouchWiz. Look at CyanogenMod9 videos on youtube.
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There is no way to downgrade to GB with built-in software updater. But you can always flash stock GB rom and revert the device to how it's been before.
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Excuse me, what does "flash the rom" mean in the Android world?
If I have a Note+ICS pre-installed, I can still downgrade to the stock GB by flashing?
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Excuse me, what does "flash the rom" mean in the Android world?
If I have a Note+ICS pre-installed, I can still downgrade to the stock GB by flashing?
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this doesn't explain it fully but its good information for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehXcnqntsro&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Your advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Can I suggest that you get the GB version as it gives the greatest flexibility for rooting and upgrading (as the OTA update is already available).
Can I also suggest that you don't do anything about rooting / flashing until you have read a lot more on this forum. Once you're up to speed, you'll know the risks.
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With talks of 4.1 of 5.0 being announced this approaching week at Google I/O, and hopefully us Note users getting it, I'm a little concerned for those of us on an ICS kernel potentially infected with the ICS brick bug. Will it be safe for us to update our advices still through Kies on stock firmware?
I'm pretty sure that if Samsung decides to build 4.1 update for Note they will make sure to eliminate this problem, especially now when they're aware of it and know what and how causes it.
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I'm pretty sure that if Samsung decides to build 4.1 update for Note they will make sure to eliminate this problem, especially now when they're aware of it and know what and how causes it.
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So, whenever the next update from Samsung comes out, be it 4.1, 5.0 or just some bug fixes for ICS 4.0, it should be safe to update?
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So, whenever the next update from Samsung comes out, be it 4.1, 5.0 or just some bug fixes for ICS 4.0, it should be safe to update?
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If it's an official update, yes. But, if it does mess up and you haven't done anything to void the warranty, Samsung would fix it (or should).
But, I don't know if we will get an update or not.
From reading entropy's thread and getting an idea of what's been done before on other devices, its likely that Samsung will simply release an updated kernel without the emmc format command, thereby bypassing the issue, rather than an actual firmware update to correct the flawed emmc bug. If this is the case I would suggest it would be safer to first downgrade the kernel to a safe stock gb kernel before performing the upgrade.
That's all supposition though, until Samsung release an official statement we won't know what avenue they are taking. I really don't see why they wouldn't release a firmware update, perhaps it would mean everyone having to send they're phones in for the update to be applied rather than being able to do it through kies ourselves.
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Samsung not prividing 4.0.4 update to s2 as per phonearena.com. So it is sure they will not update our handset to 4.1 or 5.0
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Samsung not prividing 4.0.4 update to s2 as per phonearena.com. So it is sure they will not update our handset to 4.1 or 5.0
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Not necessarily... the s2 was released 6 months before the note. Update cycle is usually 18 months.
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I received my note yesterday it was ISC by default lol, but facing some issue.
Hello... first time poster here... if i install CM9 ( when stable is released), will i still be able to receive OTA updates..?? Im so interested in a more stock android experience, but i also want to keep OTA updates. Currently i am rooted but havent flashed a rom or nothing, and i still get the OTA updates. Thanks in advance to anyone that answers.
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No and with all the **** going on with Apple right now you want to avoid an OTA as much as possible.
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CM will incorporate things like updated radios, but many updates won't apply to your version....
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Well how about, lets say the jelly bean update or security updates specifically for ATT model.... will those updates go through??
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Well how about, lets say the jelly bean update or security updates specifically for ATT model.... will those updates go through??
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Short answer: no. If you're running CM you're on a completely different build than the version of Android/Touchwiz that ships on the device.
Longer answer: Both CM and the build that ships with the device are obviously both derived from the same source: Google's Android. So if Google fixes security problems in Android, then theoretically the CM guys should be packaging those into the next update of CM. If there is a security flaw specifically in the AT&T version of the phone, then it was probably caused by something custom that AT&T built into Android, in which case you won't get that update - but you wouldn't need it because you wouldn't have had the custom code that caused the flaw in the first place. Does that make sense?
Like eagle said, when on a custom ROM you are on your own and you don'T depend on Samsung or your carrier for updates, you depend on the developpers of the ROM. So you will probably get JB faster with CyanogenMod than with Samsung so it doesn't matter.
I could only find the dev ones, could someone provide me a link? And dont say USE THE SEARCH cause i already did and may have missed it.
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There is no original 4.4 rom for the N4.
It will be available in the coming weeks.
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There is no original 4.4 rom for the N4.
It will be available in the coming weeks.
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Short and sweet, we need more people like you
Yes we do, but welcome to the world xDD
on top of everything, these 4.4 roms arent the full roms. they are all hybrids using files from 4.3 to work. the binaries havent been released yet, so there isnt a true 4.4 rom for the nexus 5 yet. only when they get released will we have true 4.4 roms.
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on top of everything, these 4.4 roms arent the full roms. they are all hybrids using files from 4.3 to work. the binaries havent been released yet, so there isnt a true 4.4 rom for the nexus 5 yet. only when they get released will we have true 4.4 roms.
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Just a small newbie question, suppose, god forbids, one day Google stops updating Nexus 4 just like they have done to Galaxy Nexus, flashing then latest Android ROMs will also be considered as half-backed ROMs since binaries would also not be released?
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Just a small newbie question, suppose, god forbids, one day Google stops updating Nexus 4 just like they have done to Galaxy Nexus, flashing then latest Android ROMs will also be considered as half-backed ROMs since binaries would also not be released?
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well, i wouldnt say half baked, but yea. but the galaxy nexus has a special circumstance, texas instruments discontinued maling the processors and are not providing any kind of support for it anymore. no binaries from ti, no galaxy nexus support.
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Who shall be the first to build ?
The race is on
Buahahhahahhaha
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Who shall be the first to build ?
The race is on
Buahahhahahhaha
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Source ?
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Source ?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...roid-5-0-lollipop-source-code-aosp-right-now/
I'm OK now, I'm happy to have waited this long for an AOSP ROM.
I can wait longer if it becomes a L ROM for our G3!!
Great news !
it's hard to say...i'm working on a lollypop port since weeks now and the main problem is a kernel panic related to the modem resetting.. i think that once i will figure out how to solve it i will be able to release a first beta
It is usually very hard to get new android versions ported to a device where there is no official rom of the same version for it - you basically are going in blind trying to get all the hardware to work.
If we are lucky we might see one or two builds before LG release theirs (which is now less than 2 months away!) but I would expect them to be buggy with some hardware not working - so far we don't even have a fully working Kitkat AOSP build for our device.
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it's hard to say...i'm working on a lollypop port since weeks now and the main problem is a kernel panic related to the modem resetting.. i think that once i will figure out how to solve it i will be able to release a first beta
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good luck bro!!! lets see if you can beat LG to the draw...
please keep us posted!!!
Thanks in advance
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good luck bro!!! lets see if you can beat LG to the draw...
please keep us posted!!!
Thanks in advance
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if someone would like to help here is last_kmsg at the very end you'll find the kernel panic about modem
bah, who needs the LG Lollipop rom? probably gonna have their own skin again which, in my opinion, is inferior to stock lollipop. plus, if you have not read, Android 5.0 Lollipop gives developers the option to completely lockdown devices and prevent root, specifically in our devices where bootloader is not unlockable. Don't think I'll take the risk though. It's a huge one!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/
Oooh. I so happy. ????
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bah, who needs the LG Lollipop rom? probably gonna have their own skin again which, in my opinion, is inferior to stock lollipop. plus, if you have not read, Android 5.0 Lollipop gives developers the option to completely lockdown devices and prevent root, specifically in our devices where bootloader is not unlockable. Don't think I'll take the risk though. It's a huge one!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/
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this is true although (and i may well be wrong) i would presume this would only apply if you take the update from OEM and not custom rom .... if we take a flashable custom rom i would assume that this lockdown is completely irrelevant and fairly risk free providing the devs can get all the hardware side of things up and running
ah yes, you are right. personally though i would prefer to go straight to stock rom after rooting. not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
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ah yes, you are right. personally though i would prefer to go straight to stock rom after rooting. not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
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that all depends what you want to be able to do on your device ..... without root you cannot use xposed (although until made to run on ART it wont work with lollipop onwards ) ... you need root to delete / modify any / all system apps and other tweaks under the hood ..... there are many things you could need root for
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not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
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Root alone does nothing. It's what you do with the elevated privileges that matters. With root access, you pretty much have complete control over the phone's software, so you can do next to nothing, or completely overhaul everything to the point where it is indistinguishable from a stock, non-modified phone.
By the way... If LG isn't blowing smoke up our backsides, we'll have a working Optimus UI w/ 5.0.. guessing 6 weeks, give or take. And it remains to be seen how quickly they release their sources. Until those sources are released, any 5.0 custom ROMs are going to be Lollipop on top of LG's KK stuff (kernel, radio/modem, graphics drivers, etc). Not sure how stable that will all be. My only experience with a phone running a ROM like that was running early KK builds on my old Galaxy S3, which was Android 4.4 built on top of Samsung's Jelly Bean stuff. And that was buggy as hell, tons of problems. Basic stuff, like every time it switched from Wi-Fi to mobile data, I got a kernel panic and it would reboot.
So I would be wary of any LP ROMs for the G3 that didn't include the native LP stuff from LG.
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Root alone does nothing. It's what you do with the elevated privileges that matters. With root access, you pretty much have complete control over the phone's software, so you can do next to nothing, or completely overhaul everything to the point where it is indistinguishable from a stock, non-modified phone.
By the way... If LG isn't blowing smoke up our backsides, we'll have a working Optimus UI w/ 5.0.. guessing 6 weeks, give or take. And it remains to be seen how quickly they release their sources. Until those sources are released, any 5.0 custom ROMs are going to be Lollipop on top of LG's KK stuff (kernel, radio/modem, graphics drivers, etc). Not sure how stable that will all be. My only experience with a phone running a ROM like that was running early KK builds on my old Galaxy S3, which was Android 4.4 built on top of Samsung's Jelly Bean stuff. And that was buggy as hell, tons of problems. Basic stuff, like every time it switched from Wi-Fi to mobile data, I got a kernel panic and it would reboot.
So I would be wary of any LP ROMs for the G3 that didn't include the native LP stuff from LG.
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infact since 1 month i'm trying to port lollypop and i'm blocked by kernel panic at boot due to modem resetting
My concern is for our d850 development .... It will pick up im guessing
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OEM Unlock feature in Lollipop dev options
Lollipop has an OEM Unlock feature in the development options. Chainfire already utilized it to root the N9. See attached.
so excited in looking forward to your effort - friends....
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Lollipop has an OEM Unlock feature in the development options. Chainfire already utilized it to root the N9. See attached.
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OEM unlock meaning ?