With talks of 4.1 of 5.0 being announced this approaching week at Google I/O, and hopefully us Note users getting it, I'm a little concerned for those of us on an ICS kernel potentially infected with the ICS brick bug. Will it be safe for us to update our advices still through Kies on stock firmware?
I'm pretty sure that if Samsung decides to build 4.1 update for Note they will make sure to eliminate this problem, especially now when they're aware of it and know what and how causes it.
Akiainavas said:
I'm pretty sure that if Samsung decides to build 4.1 update for Note they will make sure to eliminate this problem, especially now when they're aware of it and know what and how causes it.
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So, whenever the next update from Samsung comes out, be it 4.1, 5.0 or just some bug fixes for ICS 4.0, it should be safe to update?
Brad387 said:
So, whenever the next update from Samsung comes out, be it 4.1, 5.0 or just some bug fixes for ICS 4.0, it should be safe to update?
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If it's an official update, yes. But, if it does mess up and you haven't done anything to void the warranty, Samsung would fix it (or should).
But, I don't know if we will get an update or not.
From reading entropy's thread and getting an idea of what's been done before on other devices, its likely that Samsung will simply release an updated kernel without the emmc format command, thereby bypassing the issue, rather than an actual firmware update to correct the flawed emmc bug. If this is the case I would suggest it would be safer to first downgrade the kernel to a safe stock gb kernel before performing the upgrade.
That's all supposition though, until Samsung release an official statement we won't know what avenue they are taking. I really don't see why they wouldn't release a firmware update, perhaps it would mean everyone having to send they're phones in for the update to be applied rather than being able to do it through kies ourselves.
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Samsung not prividing 4.0.4 update to s2 as per phonearena.com. So it is sure they will not update our handset to 4.1 or 5.0
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shantanubarik said:
Samsung not prividing 4.0.4 update to s2 as per phonearena.com. So it is sure they will not update our handset to 4.1 or 5.0
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Not necessarily... the s2 was released 6 months before the note. Update cycle is usually 18 months.
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I received my note yesterday it was ISC by default lol, but facing some issue.
Related
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...on-their-nexus-s-phones-dogfooding-has-begun/
Already posted in this topic...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359413&page=6
But everyone isnt reading that topic, definitely deserved a new thread
So its almost complete
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Just curious, how long do previous iphone models get the latest iOS update when a new iphone comes out? Is it same day or shortly after?
I'm glad to see Google is closing the time between a Nexus device launch and past device getting the latest Android update.
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Just curious, how long do previous iphone models get the latest iOS update when a new iphone comes out? Is it same day or shortly after?
I'm glad to see Google is closing the time between a Nexus device launch and past device getting the latest Android update.
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Older IOS devices get it on the same day, or a couple of days before the new Iphone is released.
For Example IOS5 came out on Oct 12 this year and the Iphone 4S wasn't released until Oct 14..
its easy when they only have one or two other architectures to worry about. with the ns theres at least 3 i think
That's a good idea for an internal test. Can't wait!
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well i tried my little ace up my sleeve. downgraded back to 2.3.4 stock prerooted, to see if i would get and no go lol. it just prompted me for gingerbread 2.3.7 updating. worth a shot i might try this everyday.
Not that it will likely matter for you but even your phone was first in line for the ota up to ics, you would almost certainly get the ota update up to 2.3.7 if you're sprint and 2.3.6 for gsm. prior to ota notification for 4.0
So if you're going to do revert to stock and hope you're first to get the ota thing, make sure it is actually the latest stock.
This just makes me all the more eager to get the ota on my phone.
i have an employee edition i9020....can u please tell me how should i turn my phone to stock to check for OTA
mohsin125 said:
i have an employee edition i9020....can u please tell me how should i turn my phone to stock to check for OTA
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Somewhere in this thread is the stock rom images for your variant of nexus s.
REF] ALL Nexus S OTA Updates for ALL Variants, Plus Full ROM Packages
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
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alright...so once i flash the stock rom, will it be able to catch ota updates? or do i need to revert stock recovery too? finally what about root? should i unroot it to get the OTA?
And there is no employees edition of the phone. The limited edition phone ( battery cover) is not a "employees edition"
but i knw this one is the early model which was givn to employees
That's true. You will always get the next in line OTA. I remember that's how it was on my Nexus One.
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alright...so once i flash the stock rom, will it be able to catch ota updates? or do i need to revert stock recovery too? finally what about root? should i unroot it to get the OTA?
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You get the OTA only on stock,non-rooted, out-of-the-box rom.
False. It does not matter if you're rooted. Or if custom recovery
Ima wait till its rooted and flashable
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heres the thing
i have prime 2.1.1
idont have system software update in my settings
when ICS comes out tommorow
how can i update?
Wait for a custom rom? custom roms are nearly always better anyway.
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hi
you have to wait for the new prime version which includes the ICS-Update!
Other way you have to switch back to stock and you will lose root!
give the devs a litte time so they can make a nice ICS rom
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hi
you have to wait for the new prime version which includes the ICS-Update!
Other way you have to switch back to stock and you will lose root!
give the devs a litte time so they can make a nice ICS rom
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This^ or for the time being you can just switch to an ICS ROM until your ROM of choice gets updated.
Most likely first ICS build will just be a Rooted/Deodexed version of the ICS update which should be up within the hour of the update being released if all goes as planed.
And of course the update may not even be coming out today and the person who runs the ASUS Singapore Facebook account could be getting fired. , but let's try and be positive!
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This^ or for the time being you can just switch to an ICS ROM until your ROM of choice gets updated.
Most likely first ICS build will just be a Rooted/Deodexed version of the ICS update which should be up within the hour of the update being released if all goes as planed.
And of course the update may not even be coming out today and the person who runs the ASUS Singapore Facebook account could be getting fired. , but let's try and be positive!
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This true I have seen that happen many times before they are so fast to release an rooted update to the forums before it gets pushed to your device.
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Lantek23 said:
This true I have seen that happen many times before they are so fast to release an rooted update to the forums before it gets pushed to your device.
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I don't think that this is going to happen as usually there is some sort of a "leak" for this to happen and with the update being pushed (supposedly) today then I think we will have to wait for someone to get it and post the update to the forums.
so your saying that a new custom rom will be out tommorow?
another question any thoughts if iwill have to wipe
i cant really manage to do it
i got lots of important stuff on my TF and the sd cards its almost 60GB
Could it be that the Singapore update won't drop until the 12th, 13th who other areas get it tomorrow?
Hello... first time poster here... if i install CM9 ( when stable is released), will i still be able to receive OTA updates..?? Im so interested in a more stock android experience, but i also want to keep OTA updates. Currently i am rooted but havent flashed a rom or nothing, and i still get the OTA updates. Thanks in advance to anyone that answers.
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No and with all the **** going on with Apple right now you want to avoid an OTA as much as possible.
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CM will incorporate things like updated radios, but many updates won't apply to your version....
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Well how about, lets say the jelly bean update or security updates specifically for ATT model.... will those updates go through??
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uzii305 said:
Well how about, lets say the jelly bean update or security updates specifically for ATT model.... will those updates go through??
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Short answer: no. If you're running CM you're on a completely different build than the version of Android/Touchwiz that ships on the device.
Longer answer: Both CM and the build that ships with the device are obviously both derived from the same source: Google's Android. So if Google fixes security problems in Android, then theoretically the CM guys should be packaging those into the next update of CM. If there is a security flaw specifically in the AT&T version of the phone, then it was probably caused by something custom that AT&T built into Android, in which case you won't get that update - but you wouldn't need it because you wouldn't have had the custom code that caused the flaw in the first place. Does that make sense?
Like eagle said, when on a custom ROM you are on your own and you don'T depend on Samsung or your carrier for updates, you depend on the developpers of the ROM. So you will probably get JB faster with CyanogenMod than with Samsung so it doesn't matter.
People say we should see a new update (OTA) soon now a new branch (JOP40G) has been pushed to the AOSP tree. Has this happened before? And based on previous updates, does anybody have an idea how long it will be before we can download it? Just an idea, of course, "Usually it takes ..".
I understand this isn't 4.2.2, and it doesn't fix bluetooth or the wakelocks. To fix that we have for 4.2.2? So we would get the JOP40G update, then 4.2.2, and then 5.0 in May? That's a crowded schedule...
An update to AOSP does not necessarily mean an OTA will be provided.
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Thanks 3rdstring! That makes sense. I just hope they're skipping JOP40G and will be pushing 4.2.2 soon, with fixes for bluetooth and wakelocks. I guess it's not possible for us to know when that's going to happen, so we'll have to wait patiently...
waiting for a ROM for note 2 that has all the addable features from S4 and Note3. all this time the claimed reason why those features couldn't be ported was: note 2 is on android 4.1.2, but now, there is an android 4.3 leaked for Note 2. which means only one thing: the time for porting has begun
I believe kernel has to be updated first. Apparently the one in leaked version is an old 4.1.2. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe kernel has to be updated first. Apparently the one in leaked version is an old 4.1.2. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I don't know about that, but on android version it says 4.3.
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I don't know about that, but on android version it says 4.3.
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He meant that the kernel was built for 4.1.2 not 4.3, not that the leak was android version 4.1.2
We'd probably need an updated kernal as Foka002 said.
Bert.C said:
He meant that the kernel was built for 4.1.2 not 4.3, not that the leak was android version 4.1.2
We'd probably need an updated kernal as Foka002 said.
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ok so I get it. we also need the kernel, not only the android. I don't actually know how porting is done but all they said was "we need android 4.3" so I presumed android 4.3 was enough. what kernel number must it be in order to work?
He's just saying how the kernel build is outdated. The latest kernel is around 3.0.97? And I think the one on the leaked rom is around 3.0.31.
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Arrio said:
He's just saying how the kernel build is outdated. The latest kernel is around 3.0.97? And I think the one on the leaked rom is around 3.0.31.
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seems like a minor difference
minor?haha
via Note2
The one that came with the S4 4.3 leak was 3.4
ok, then it's not that minor after all...
nukeman239 said:
The one that came with the S4 4.3 leak was 3.4
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S4 was is 4.2.2
The kernel version has nothing to do with the android version.
There are no 3.4 tree sources for the exynos4 anyway, we are left with 3.0.x until samsung decides to release the sources but that doesn't mean anything other than we are using an older revision of linux which theoretically translates to it being inferior and slower but treat it with a grain of salt. In reality it doesn't affect performance that much (or at all) and the 3.0.x can still be patched as it is in fact supported and considered the longterm stable series after all. -> https://www.kernel.org/
4.3 is 4.3 and all the apps should work as long as they don't require hardware specific modules and you provide them with libs which are required for them to function and they also support xhdpi and not only xxhdpi. The samsung framework shouldn't be that different between our leak and the s4 leak or the official 4.3 note3 rom. In fact I'm willing to bet that every app from the s4 leak will work on our leak as long as the conditions I mentioned are met. That said their stability and functionality isn't guaranteed in any way. You can't expect 4k recording all of the sudden.
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The kernel version has nothing to do with the android version.
There are no 3.4 tree sources for the exynos4 anyway, we are left with 3.0.x until samsung decides to release the sources but that doesn't mean anything other than we are using an older revision of linux which theoretically translates to it being inferior and slower but treat it with a grain of salt. In reality it doesn't affect performance that much (or at all) and the 3.0.x can still be patched as it is in fact supported and considered the longterm stable series after all. -> https://www.kernel.org/
4.3 is 4.3 and all the apps should work as long as they don't require hardware specific modules and you provide them with libs which are required for them to function and they also support xhdpi and not only xxhdpi. The samsung framework shouldn't be that different between our leak and the s4 leak or the official 4.3 note3 rom. In fact I'm willing to bet that every app from the s4 leak will work on our leak as long as the conditions I mentioned are met. That said their stability and functionality isn't guaranteed in any way. You can't expect 4k recording all of the sudden.
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ofcorse i wasn't expecting 4k... i'm not even expecting dual shot... even though it would be nice if that could happen...
has anyone noticed? we now have the ability to shoot with sound and playback those kind of images.