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[Q] Bricked Moto Defy

HI there. First i want to excuse for my bad english.
So, right into the question. Week ago i tried to flash CM9 on my moto defy. I flashed it, it ran well, when suddenly, after 2-3 days the trebuchet luncher crashed. I reboot my phone and all i got is boot loop. So, i'm a noob , but i tried to fix the problem whit installing one of the SBF's for moto defy+ (didn't notice that, the sbf is for Defy+ not for Defy). Actually the rom ran great, but the camera don't work. So i have a NANDROID backup but the moto defy original recovery, doesn't flash it (it says: "E: failed to verify whole-file signature"). I can't instal clockworkmod, couse i can't root the rom. So, the question is: is there any chance to root my rom and instal clockworkmod or can i fix the original recovery error, so i can apply my backup and downgrade to 2.2 froyo.
The rom that i flashed is ->
4.5.1-134-DFP-231 - retail, vodafon, tmobile, O2, full Blur
I tried to flash other SBF's but they dont work, or can't root either.
I tried to root the rom with everyone possible root exploits posted in this forum... but they doesen't work. I noticed that, there are some SBF's wich are rootable, but the download links doesen't work.
So, what is the exit of this ****ty situation?

no way out

No way at all???

wait for a miracle.

meanwhile read this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956
DFP-188, DFP-231, DFP-2311 BL7 Root

novaproject said:
HI there. First i want to excuse for my bad english.
So, right into the question. Week ago i tried to flash CM9 on my moto defy. I flashed it, it ran well, when suddenly, after 2-3 days the trebuchet luncher crashed. I reboot my phone and all i got is boot loop. So, i'm a noob , but i tried to fix the problem whit installing one of the SBF's for moto defy+ (didn't notice that, the sbf is for Defy+ not for Defy). Actually the rom ran great, but the camera don't work. So i have a NANDROID backup but the moto defy original recovery, doesn't flash it (it says: "E: failed to verify whole-file signature"). I can't instal clockworkmod, couse i can't root the rom. So, the question is: is there any chance to root my rom and instal clockworkmod or can i fix the original recovery error, so i can apply my backup and downgrade to 2.2 froyo.
The rom that i flashed is ->
4.5.1-134-DFP-231 - retail, vodafon, tmobile, O2, full Blur
I tried to flash other SBF's but they dont work, or can't root either.
I tried to root the rom with everyone possible root exploits posted in this forum... but they doesen't work. I noticed that, there are some SBF's wich are rootable, but the download links doesen't work.
So, what is the exit of this ****ty situation?
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Okay dude. First thing:
Calm down. If you already are then read on!
Since Defy and Defy+ are more than 90% similar in hardware flashing SBF should not be a problem until you don't want downgradability! So from the name of the SBF I guess its for 2.3.6(GB) So now no way can you downgrade to Froyo kernel or for that matter any ROM using Froyo kernel. Am not sure about your ROM but I use the Asia retail SBF (4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage) and I have rooted it using latest superoneclick and modded, rooted and installed CWM recovery umpteen times! So, what you can do is:
1.) Find out version of Android(2.3.4 or 2.3.6) in your phone at present.
2.) Case a:If it is 2.3.4: You can get any kernel and downgradeability is
preserved. There should be no prob faced!
Case b: If you have 2.3.6: You should try the SBF I have since it is rootable.
3.) Now I presume your phone should be working fine with Android 2.3.6.
Let me know if it works and than we can proceed further..
You can also give a try with Walter's fixed SBF and Nandroid backup
PS: A Defy as I understand is almost impossible to Brick!!! Y? Since its bootloader is locked

HI there, thx for the help
Yes, the installed rom is 2.3.6. I want to change it, couse the battery drain too fast (one day and it's gone) and there's no camera.
I flashed the rom that you said me (4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage), but it's not working.. Doesn't boot at all. After the rom is flashed, the phone reboot and nothing, black screen. Only the white LED light on the upper left corner is activated. I'm giving a try with Walter's fixed SBF now.

Walter's fixed SBF doesen't work too. Same blackscreen...

novaproject said:
Walter's fixed SBF doesen't work too. Same blackscreen...
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Oh! I think similar thing happened with me once when I installed CM9 kernel! This is what I did:
1.) Flash SBF. (Full)
2.) Boot to stock android recovery.
3.) Wipe data and wipe cache.
4.) Reboot.
Well since you already installed a full SBF of 2.3.6 you cannot downgrade! And from what I have seen till now from users experience(and mine) 2.3.6 gives much better battery life. So from now on whenever u use a nightly or ROM use the one for GB(Defy+) builds

This means, that i cannot change the rom anymore?

novaproject said:
This means, that i cannot change the rom anymore?
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You can change ROMs. But you can't go back to an old or downgraded ROM(like froyo). That means you will always have to use ROMs made for Defy+ (GB). There are many CM7 nightlies by Quarx for Defy+ and the latest one for me worked great.
However, should you want to go to Froyo again there is a workaround:
A chinese sbf of froyo was found to have an updated bootloader! So the workaround is:
1.) Flash the chinese SBF(Never use the flash as it will burn your flash)
2.) Root, install 2nd init and CWM.
3.) Now you can flash CM and ROMs for Defy(Froyo) since you got a froyo
kernel(And use your flash now )
This is something I gave a try and it worked for me. I am sorry don't remember which thread it was with this tutorial. May be you can give it a search...

Thanx again.
I tried the chineese sbf but it didn't work. Same black screen...
Is there any way to instal .zip rom (like CM7) with program like RSD lite?

novaproject said:
Thanx again.
I tried the chineese sbf but it didn't work. Same black screen...
Is there any way to instal .zip rom (like CM7) with program like RSD lite?
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Did you do a data wipe from stock recovery after installing the chinese SBF?
I dint quite get your second question! If you asked :
a.) Can zip be flashed using RSD lite.. No!! You cant. RSD lite understand only proper SBF files with correct checksum!
b.) Can zip be installed from stock recovery: No!! To instal a zip from stock you need the zip to be signed by motorola. That is why the whole concept of 2nd init comes up! It is a recovery menu which comes before the system boots up

It was the first question
Yes, i did the data wipe, and nothing... I think, no other SBF works except mine... I don't know what to do now.

novaproject said:
It was the first question
Yes, i did the data wipe, and nothing... I think, no other SBF works except mine... I don't know what to do now.
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Sorry dint see that! I am afraid i think the SBF you flashed has BL7 as someone in the thread mentioned earlier! just to be sure:
1.) Download this .
2.) Extract the sbf and check the cmg versions. Check the version for cmg39.
3.) If it is 7. I am afraid there is no way out yet!! For the time being you are stuck with that SBF!! You are unable to boot because the SBF I gave you and most others has BL6 !!
Sorry again as I dint thought of this possibility earlier! And don't worry much. For now reflash the SBF that is working for you and wait till a way to root it is found!!

And speaking of it I welcome myself to the group!!
Just got back my Defy+ from service center and after I switched it ON I saw the lockscreen interface was different! A quick check told me that it is the latest SBF they flashed. I kept my fingers crossed. Once back home I checked and found this phone is not rootable!!! Now I am stuck too!!

Wooow, they flashed you BL7??
OK, man, im gonna donate you one AK47!

novaproject said:
Wooow, they flashed you BL7??
OK, man, im gonna donate you one AK47!
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Oh that is so very nice of u!!!!
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

Defy+ wont boot no screen, nothing. [fixed]

Hey
I tried to get my phone faster and found the [ROM][Minimal] Nothing But Speed 1.0 Thread.
I downloaded the rom that says Recommended SBF for Defy+: DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-132 (I use it too)
Flashed it with RSD lite all went well it said now rebooting left it 5 mins nothing.
So I hit the power button wait few minutes nothing, Pull battery out for a few minutes put it back in hold the power button for like 30 secs wait few mins, no lights, no screen, no vibration, not a damn thing.
Battery was at 80% when I started and I have tried to hook up a USB wire with red and black hooked onto positive and negative as had trouble flashing last time and it said battery was low so had to do that. It wont show anything!
I should of left it as I am not sure how to fix this if you cannot even get it to start booting.

No one have any idea whats going on?

Was your previous rom a higher version than 132?
I tried to flash a 1321 rom to my defy plus which was OTA updated to 231 and it seemed to kill it. No response. Plugging in the USB cable would light the led and rsdlite would show connected. So i just flashed my 231 ROM again and it worked.
If you plug in your phone to usb and run rsdlite, see if it shows connected. If so, just flash the correct rom and it will work again.

I did try to flash the new rom 4.0.1 I think it was but got a error at boot (tried this before but used different steps this time hoping it would work) But before I was able to flash it back to 2.3.5 and it updated to 2.3.6 no problems at all.
This time it wont boot. It shows a white light if I hit the power when the USB is connected but not the charger and RSD lite did not show it was connected. Might try it a few times with different ways like connecting phone then starting it or starting it then connecting the phone see if any will read it.
Apart from that only other thing I can think of is take it back and hope they cant get it working and send me a new one. Or they will get it working and not sure what they do if its had custom roms flashed, I guess I will have to pay for the repair?

Ok got it to flash in RSD lite. I tried to flash the rom that worked last time but it still wont boot at all.
I think I may need a CM9 SBF file as I flashed the CM9 kernel and gapps or something. I did not do this last time I tried.
Would this be why I cannot flash back to the ROM that was working before?? and if so how can I get the kernel back or a ROM that will work with the one I have?

Being that the defy is virtually unbrickable, all you need to do is flash a stock 2.3.6 rom, but make sure that the CG/BL version is the same as the version you were running previously. Most probably try 132/1321 since these are the latest rootable roms. If there's a chance that you were running 231, then these roms will leave your defy dead, and you will have to flash a 231 rom. Kernel doesn't really matter, because a full stock SBF will have everything needed to bring the phone back to life.
Edit: i just realised: i hope you're not trying to flash rom zips through rsdlite. only sbfs. thought of this since you said you flashed a 4.0.1 rom which should NOT be an sbf. if you meant that you flashed the ICS rom through the clockworkmod, then ignore this whole para.

ok not sure what the version is how can I tell??
I followed the instructions on this page
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
I think I downloaded the one that says:
NEW Latest build by Epsylon3: 16 Apr 2012
Edit:
Oh sorry I am a bit of a NOOB but where is the best place to fine SBF files for the versions I have I seen there are heaps on here but not sure what ones are right to use.

Ok I have it going again thanks. I think I must of had the 231 rom as all the rest but that didnt work.
Can I flash any rom with the 231 version??? as this is a german one not sure if that will matter but if I come into problems I might need to flash a new one.

Since you want to install ICS, doesn't really matter.
Follow the steps here to root 231: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956 These are full SBFs so your earlier 231 download would be wasted i guess.
Then install ICS from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
Or some other rom if you like.

Yeah thanks, I already found that thread before had as I found out in about 30mins of installing it that it wont root.
I think I am going to keep it 2.3.6. Do you run ICS?? I tried to install it twice and got problems both times using 2 different ways and the link you posted was one of them.
What is the fastest rom?? will I be able to do the nothing but speed 1 rom now or have I upgraded to high?
I just wanted to get alot of crap off and get it a little faster but I dont want to overclock it.

I actually own an xperia play (previously used a blade), i'm helping a friend with his defy+.
Originally the plan was to root and debloat because the stock phone was painfully and surprisingly slow and laggy. In the meantime he decided to upgrade OTA to 231 (came with 1321 stock) in the hopes that the update would speed it up. Since 231 has a painful root procedure of downloading two SBFs, we then decided to go the whole hog and upgrade to ICS.
First tried Quarx's Apr 20th, but the buttons backlight stayed on. I know there's a fix for that, but then decided to try Epsylon's Apr 17th. Working fine so far. Only gripes are the lack of HWA means opera mobile etc. won't run, but making do with mini/next.
Since there is now a root method for 231, you can run any rom that uses a GB kernel. Just install 2nd init first, then boot into CWM and install a rom. Note that for the defy+, if you install the CM9 kernel, the system seems to die, so only install the CM9 rom.
99% after you switch to ICS you wouldn't wanna go back to 2.3.

[Q] Defy near death or worse. Please help!

Hi guys, you are my last hope!
Bought my Defy early 2011 and regularily updated with custom ROMs, so you could say I know a thing about rooting, RSD Lite, fixed sbfs, ...
Or at least I though I knew, but I still managed to kill my phone I think.
Here's what happend:
I tried to install Epsylon3s nightly from may 8th (http://defy.wdscript.fr/defy-cm9/). Before that, I was on CM 7.1
After installing the zip and rebooting, I saw the bootlogo, then i was asked for my pin code. As soon as i entered it, again to the bootlogo, again the pin, and so on.
So i realized something was wrong.
Could not get into recovery, so I flashed
JORDN_U3_97.21.51.sbf
as this often helped me in the past.
I then tried this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498843
Also didn't start.
So back to
JORDN_U3_97.21.51.sbf
But here it might be, that I misclicked (I have quite some SBFs in that folder, cause I wanted to be prepared in case something went wrong), as after that, I never got my Defy to work again.
I was stuck at the Motorola M logo.
Coudln't get into recovery, so no zips for me anymore, only flashing of sfb.
That's basically when I entered panic mode. As I didn't know what I just flashed, I could only guess the problem. So I tried the Ginger2Froyo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731) in case I went to BL6. Also tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552152
But in this process, my RSD Lite started to behave strange:
when flashing, it's building the image, uploads it, checks checksum. But once it says "rebooting" it immediately jumps to 100% and pass. Phone how ever stays black and white LED.
Of course I can still flash other SBFs, and I tried various (JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7. sbf for example). But I either get the instant PASS, which tells me something didn't work, or sometimes I get the neverending bootlogo and RSD telling me to start the phone manually.
So... that's my story.
I can't seem to find a single SBF that would work for me. I screwed up big time.
To make this clear: at this point I don't care about downgradeability or anything thelike. Whatever makes my Defy work again, is fine. Froyo, Ginger, ICS, or whatever.
So if anybody still has any advice for me, I'll love you forever! Promise!
Thanks a lot in advance for any help you sure will offer,
Clock

Try this if you haven't :
Go into stock recovery and make a factory reset
Sent from my MB526 using XDA App

As I said, i cannot even enter recovery.
I'd be really happy to find an sbf, that at least lets me reset my phone.

Have u tried this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=bl6+downgrade

Clock1999 said:
As I said, i cannot even enter recovery.
I'd be really happy to find an sbf, that at least lets me reset my phone.
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Im sorry , thought you mean custom recovery when you say you can't enter recovery.
I was in the nearly same situation but i never changed my bootloader...., by me out works to power up my phone with pressed volume button down to enter stock recovery ...
So I'm sorry i couldn't help you
Sent from my MB526 using XDA App

You just like to play with your defy, don't ya
Have you tried the suggestions under Common problems/questions in this guide?

Thanks for all the responses.
However all the guides seem to point to two options only:
1) Flash this one Eclair (which I already mentioned that I did, that it used to work, but since the "instant 100% on rebooting" doesn't anymore.
2) Factory Reset/Wipe. Which I cannot, as I don't get into Recovery Mode. All I can do atm, is flash SBFs. Defy won't enter Recovery Mode (which I guess is a pretty bad sign)
But the way I always understood it, was that you only need to be careful what you install, so you don't lose downgradeability. And that, once lost, you wouldn't be able to flash "older" roms, but newer ones would always be possible.
So shouldn't there always be a rom, that saves me?
What about Defy+ roms? Any advice on that? Which best to try first? So far, I haven't touched Defy+ roms at all.
Thanks for the support!

Did you try this:
When Off, press Vol. down and power.
You'll get an exclamation mark inside a triangle.
Press both Vol. up and down at the same time.
Now you suppose to be in stock recovery and you can do factory reset.
Do the above after flashing stock SBF.

Hello again!
In the meantime, I flashed some 30 different SBFs, and at least I learned something:
when the bootloader verson is 6, I get stuck at Motorola Logo. I can enter bootloader mode, but not Stock Recovery.
When bootloader is below 6, RSD Lite doesn't get the Dey to reboot, but shows instant 100% PASS.
Okay, maybe this was to be expected, but I didn't realize how very similar sounding ROMs have very different bootloaders...
So: can anybody guide me on whether installing a BL7 ROM would repair my problem?
I read elsewhere, that my green lense definitely will not work. Is this true, or are there fixes? And if it's true: if I'm sure the rest will be working again, I'll take that. If I just rob myself of future chances, I'll pass.
And hints here?
Thanks in advance so much! One week without a phone is pure horror!
Clock

If you haven't flashed BL7, then check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=bl6+downgrade&page=2

Clock1999 said:
Hello again!
In the meantime, I flashed some 30 different SBFs, and at least I learned something:
when the bootloader verson is 6, I get stuck at Motorola Logo. I can enter bootloader mode, but not Stock Recovery.
When bootloader is below 6, RSD Lite doesn't get the Dey to reboot, but shows instant 100% PASS.
Okay, maybe this was to be expected, but I didn't realize how very similar sounding ROMs have very different bootloaders...
So: can anybody guide me on whether installing a BL7 ROM would repair my problem?
I read elsewhere, that my green lense definitely will not work. Is this true, or are there fixes? And if it's true: if I'm sure the rest will be working again, I'll take that. If I just rob myself of future chances, I'll pass.
And hints here?
Thanks in advance so much! One week without a phone is pure horror!
Clock
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If you flash any of the defy+ roms, camera won't work..there isn't a fix or patch for that..
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above

corrinti said:
If you haven't flashed BL7, then check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=bl6+downgrade&page=2
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Hi,
as I mentioned above, I already tried this ROM but it gives me the same result as all the others: stuck at bootlogo.
Maybe there is a special trick on which ROM I should flash before flashing this one?

Sorry, I do not know how to help. Just no idea now, try to dig the forum.
Once I had very similar problem - whatever I flashed I was stuck at bootlogo. And in my case I found out that just before flash my internal memory had been filled with some mess, which was not removed by any wipes (cache, dalvik cache, cache partition) and after any flash memory was too filled to start the system.
But finally I could flash Chinese eclair (CG5), which at last started horribly laggy, and I could wipe private data from a system - it gave me more than 1GB of internal memory back (from 40MB after all wipes and clean system install) and a way to flash whatever I wanted without a problem.
So even if it is also your problem, my way is not available to you now. Maybe you can find as small sbf file as possible and try then.

I'm sorry, but I don't quite get, which ROM saved you, and why that is no option to me. Can you please clearify? Thanks a lot!

Clock1999 said:
I'm sorry, but I don't quite get, which ROM saved you, and why that is no option to me. Can you please clearify? Thanks a lot!
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I could use CG5 full sbf which will not boot for you as you put BL6 and maybe BL7.
To boot from flashed sbf it cannot be lower BL version.
I suppose that now you have a memory problem - flashing sbf do not wipe the memory.
At first I would try getting into stock recovery (even several times, just pull battery out, wait a minute, power, vol -, battery in) - if successful then do a factory reset and reboot.
If not I would try to find out a smallest sbf with proper BL version - just to give it more chance to boot with small memory available, if not then again try to get into stock recovery.

I'm the happiest guy around, as I finally revitalized my Defy.
For all you guys, who already tried everything: here's what worked for me.
Just let it rest a few days.
After I hadn't touched my phone for a couple of days, I thought about giving it one last try. So I flashed the Defy+ SBF (4th in this list: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordanplus/list.php), like I've done multiple times before.
But this time, when rebooting, I wasn't stuck at the M-logo, but in a bootloop. And that gave me the smiles as I knew, that now I should be able to enter Stock Recovery again. From there on, it was no problem to get to a stable base again. After flashing the BL6 Froyo, I'm now on CM9 and everything is fine.
Thanks for all you help.
Sometimes, you just have to give it a rest...
Clock

It is a next such case I see in moto forums ;-) but it is really hard to give a tip: leave it for few days and check again

Use the sbf_flash for Linux
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[Q] What can be done to recover from the MBM-flash mode? (Defy XT)

Alright, I'm new around here. I searched around a lot on the forums, but didn't find a similar problem.
Phone model: Motorola Defy XT (XT535)
Carrier: It's GSM. So, it doesn't matter, does it?
I found many threads talking about the rooting process of Defy XT, and some of them did help me conduct it without problems. I did meddle around for some time after rooting; Eventually I thought I will change the stock ROM (GB - 2.3.7).
The problem is that, I couldn't find a tested (official/unofficial) ClockworkMod recovery for use with Defy XT. I could do with installing some Chinese release of ICS for Defy XT (SBF), but, I wanted to try CM10; it appeared more fascinating. So, anyway, I thought I could use Koushik's custom recovery build script on his website (builder.clockworkmod.com). So, I did the process of obtaining the stock "recovery.img", plugging it in that script, and obtained a new custom-built CWM. The real problem which I am not able to come out of is now - After flashing it, on the next reboot, it is going into the "MBM-flash mode", and it throws out an "error 0301", and doesn't go further than that. In this mode, I gathered that it will be able to communicate to a computer (RSD lite) over USB, and so, I installed it and was able to detect the device, but I'm not able to find out, what to do next to get it back to normal working condition.
Since that error screen I see now is basically a flashing tool, I was thinking, reflashing the recovery partition with the stock "recovery.img" (have a back up) should solve the problem. But, I'm not able to find out how to do it...
If there is anyone else who has faced a similar problem and found a solution, it would be really good of you to share it. Or, if there is anyone who knows how to work with RSD lite, could you suggest a method to flash the "recovery" section only through this software? (I'm guessing an XML file should be enough, but I don't know how to write it; format).
Hopefully I'll get speedy replies .

QuaziRandom said:
Alright, I'm new around here. I searched around a lot on the forums, but didn't find a similar problem.
Phone model: Motorola Defy XT (XT535)
Carrier: It's GSM. So, it doesn't matter, does it?
I found many threads talking about the rooting process of Defy XT, and some of them did help me conduct it without problems. I did meddle around for some time after rooting; Eventually I thought I will change the stock ROM (GB - 2.3.7).
hi i have faced same problem with my defyxt when i was testing cwm like you i got same error
the solution is just flash the sbf files by using rsd lite dats it bt you will lost your data
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I tried...
Srika said:
QuaziRandom said:
hi i have faced same problem with my defyxt when i was testing cwm like you i got same error
the solution is just flash the sbf files by using rsd lite dats it bt you will lost your data
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Yes... I was trying since yesterday. I was thinking of making a custom SBF to flash the recovery partition with the original one, but seeing the responses on this thread, I decided to cut to the chase and flash it with the Chinese ICS instead (and lost all my data of course). I succeeded to get my phone back up and running, but now, I have nothing but the bare minimum on it. I am trying to root and it, and get all my required apps back.
I still would prefer getting CWM recovery on this. Will keep trying...
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QuaziRandom said:
Srika said:
Yes... I was trying since yesterday. I was thinking of making a custom SBF to flash the recovery partition with the original one, but seeing the responses on this thread, I decided to cut to the chase and flash it with the Chinese ICS instead (and lost all my data of course). I succeeded to get my phone back up and running, but now, I have nothing but the bare minimum on it. I am trying to root and it, and get all my required apps back.
I still would prefer getting CWM recovery on this. Will keep trying...
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Yep i have succeded to extract our stock recovery image and stock kernal
I have tried to make a cwm by koush website script bt it showed me a fail
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Srika said:
QuaziRandom said:
Yep i have succeded to extract our stock recovery image and stock kernal
I have tried to make a cwm by koush website script bt it showed me a fail
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any other way to backup my stock rom b4 flashing the new ics rom?
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Please ask all questions in the Q&A section. Thread moved there.

[Q] Stuck. Anybody have T-mo Froyo SBF and/or advice?

Hi All,
I picked up a Defy MB525 on ebay, mostlly to mess with but I need to use it as my daily driver for a while because I am buying a house and my money is tied up for that.
Anyway, it arrived with stock unrooted t-mobile froyo which I am sure you will all agree is unacceptable so i used framroot to root it and installed sndinit 2.3 and followed the instructions in the general section for installing KitKat. I followed the instructions including the note to update the phone to CM10 first which went fine. At one point, I had it running CM10.1 fine but when I installed KitKat, the phone got stuck at the boot screen. The instructions say that it is normal for it to take a long time and you will think you are stuck but I let it sit more than an hour. At that point I thought I was soft bricked so I went back and used RSD Lite to install the t-mobile eclair SBF on it, which is the only one I can find. All links to the Froyo SBF I can find are broken.
That is where I am stuck. When I try to install sndinit, I get no blue light on reboot and on the older versions and I get an SD mount error in the recovery.
I think the probably I am having are related to not having the Froyo firmware installed but when I try to install it the regular way, the phone reboots and I get the triangle with an exclamation point. As I said, I can't find the Froyo SBF. The links I can find are broken and I don't think it is listed here, which is where I found the eclair sbf:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=27
My questions are:
Does anyone know where to find the most recent t-mobile sbf file? Do you think that is my problem? If not, what is?

richdaley said:
Hi All,
I picked up a Defy MB525 on ebay, mostlly to mess with but I need to use it as my daily driver for a while because I am buying a house and my money is tied up for that.
Anyway, it arrived with stock unrooted t-mobile froyo which I am sure you will all agree is unacceptable so i used framroot to root it and installed sndinit 2.3 and followed the instructions in the general section for installing KitKat. I followed the instructions including the note to update the phone to CM10 first which went fine. At one point, I had it running CM10.1 fine but when I installed KitKat, the phone got stuck at the boot screen. The instructions say that it is normal for it to take a long time and you will think you are stuck but I let it sit more than an hour. At that point I thought I was soft bricked so I went back and used RSD Lite to install the t-mobile eclair SBF on it, which is the only one I can find. All links to the Froyo SBF I can find are broken.
That is where I am stuck. When I try to install sndinit, I get no blue light on reboot and on the older versions and I get an SD mount error in the recovery.
I think the probably I am having are related to not having the Froyo firmware installed but when I try to install it the regular way, the phone reboots and I get the triangle with an exclamation point. As I said, I can't find the Froyo SBF. The links I can find are broken and I don't think it is listed here, which is where I found the eclair sbf:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=27
My questions are:
Does anyone know where to find the most recent t-mobile sbf file? Do you think that is my problem? If not, what is?
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I figured this out if anybody needs to know. I had to do a full system reset then restore the eclair sbf so that the phone is in the exact state it was in out of the box. Then the OTA install worked fine. I am still working on getting KitKat installed. It seems like I need to find the right combination of recovery and rom to get 10.1 installed.

richdaley said:
I figured this out if anybody needs to know. I had to do a full system reset then restore the eclair sbf so that the phone is in the exact state it was in out of the box. Then the OTA install worked fine. I am still working on getting KitKat installed. It seems like I need to find the right combination of recovery and rom to get 10.1 installed.
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To install KK, root, 2ndinit, then go to recovery and flash this and reboot - http://d-h.st/dWr. Then after reboot, go back to recovery (don't go back to the system). Then flash this - http://d-h.st/dz8 and immediately flash KK and gapps.

hotdog125 said:
To install KK, root, 2ndinit, then go to recovery and flash this and reboot - http://d-h.st/dWr. Then after reboot, go back to recovery (don't go back to the system). Then flash this - http://d-h.st/dz8 and immediately flash KK and gapps.
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Beautiful. It worked perfectly.