Thoughts about the 4.3 - Galaxy Note II General

Hi guys
This is for the ppl who are complaining about not getting updates.I just came from a 4.3 galaxy nexus to the note 2 and I just have to say that you guys aren't missing alot.
Believe me,only the notification bar changed (it became more like touchwiz),photosphere camera which I didnt use much and only some performance enhancement.
Otherwise my nexus device was getting really stale.
4.3 wont be that much groundbreaking in essence,what sammy will add on to it like n3,s4 features will make it different.
So here's hoping 4.3 will make our device even more awesome and not just some boring security update like google did on nexus devices
Cheers

Do remember that officially we're still on 4.1.2, so we're missing quite a lot like notification toggles, daydream, lockscreen customizations, etc. Also, the new update would help improve the current state of AOSP, CM based ROMs in terms of performance and more importantly battery life.

nukeman239 said:
Do remember that officially we're still on 4.1.2, so we're missing quite a lot like notification toggles, daydream, lockscreen customizations, etc. Also, the new update would help improve the current state of AOSP, CM based ROMs in terms of performance and more importantly battery life.
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Im interested to know how the update would help aosp and cm roms. Would the devs use bits from the updated rom in their roms? The only reason I keep coming back to stock is because of poor battery life and other minor bugs. Plus the one handed keyboard and dialler. And also the stock slide to txt and dial is great
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gambitflash said:
Hi guys
This is for the ppl who are complaining about not getting updates.I just came from a 4.3 galaxy nexus to the note 2 and I just have to say that you guys aren't missing alot.
Believe me,only the notification bar changed (it became more like touchwiz),photosphere camera which I didnt use much and only some performance enhancement.
Otherwise my nexus device was getting really stale.
4.3 wont be that much groundbreaking in essence,what sammy will add on to it like n3,s4 features will make it different.
So here's hoping 4.3 will make our device even more awesome and not just some boring security update like google did on nexus devices
Cheers
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You missing one point. Galaxy nexus isn't tuchwizz based rom and it doesn't have samsung bloatware. That what makes android phones unique - their ui. Nexus is unique because it gets update first and other brands are unique for their software etc. So we going to get what u have + some new samsung goodies.
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gambitflash said:
Hi guys
This is for the ppl who are complaining about not getting updates.I just came from a 4.3 galaxy nexus to the note 2 and I just have to say that you guys aren't missing alot.
Believe me,only the notification bar changed (it became more like touchwiz),photosphere camera which I didnt use much and only some performance enhancement.
Otherwise my nexus device was getting really stale.
4.3 wont be that much groundbreaking in essence,what sammy will add on to it like n3,s4 features will make it different.
So here's hoping 4.3 will make our device even more awesome and not just some boring security update like google did on nexus devices
Cheers
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You are correct but I have to remind you that Samsung's 4.3 update is fully bloated with TouchWiz crap.
UI is totally different from the original android.

[email protected] said:
You are correct but I have to remind you that Samsung's 4.3 update is fully bloated with TouchWiz crap.
UI is totally different from the original android.
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Disagree. Yes, the UI is totally different, but alongside the 'normal' Android 4.3 features (like notification toggles, daydream, etc...), we also ought to get some features we currently lack - the new SNote, the new SPen multitasking features (which I'm looking forward to very much!) and other stuff other devices won't ever get.

Freezeil said:
Disagree. Yes, the UI is totally different, but alongside the 'normal' Android 4.3 features (like notification toggles, daydream, etc...), we also ought to get some features we currently lack - the new SNote, the new SPen multitasking features (which I'm looking forward to very much!) and other stuff other devices won't ever get.
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I used note 3 for 10 minutes, frankly you don't realize that you're using 4.3 unless you check the OS version.

Its A NOTE 2 , not like others s2 , s3 or even s4 ..... we have things others dont and wont have it like " S-Pen "
only good thing about nexus is fast update and look , others arent that great and its my opinion

gambitflash said:
Hi guys
This is for the ppl who are complaining about not getting updates.I just came from a 4.3 galaxy nexus to the note 2 and I just have to say that you guys aren't missing alot.
Believe me,only the notification bar changed (it became more like touchwiz),photosphere camera which I didnt use much and only some performance enhancement.
Otherwise my nexus device was getting really stale.
4.3 wont be that much groundbreaking in essence,what sammy will add on to it like n3,s4 features will make it different.
So here's hoping 4.3 will make our device even more awesome and not just some boring security update like google did on nexus devices
Cheers
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Its it still impossible to store apps on the sd card with 4.3?
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Well Guys..
I think Samsung should learn from Apple atleast about the software updates.. Google is definitely going to launch 4.4 by year end and by March 4.5 or even 5.0..
But samsung will crawl along and fool us with voiding 4.3 and going to 4.4 and the same again for 4.5 and so on. eventually we will be stuck with 4.1.2 and wait for years for 4.4 or 4.5 or even 5.0..
Atleast apple has a theory of updating their iphones every year.
Remenber the saying.. TOO MANY COOKS SPOIL THE BROTH.. Too Many Handsets from samsung spoils the update lineup.. Just to give some time for the new handset to settle in. by the time the 4.3 update will be due.. expect news on Note 4 and again wait and wait for the crap touchwiz which required updates for note 2 after 4.1.2 update..
what the hell they are doing with the testing when they again have to update for hickups..
SHAME ON U.. SAMSUNG..
Even after having only 2 handsets in the lineup for Apple.. they are still on top and now Number 1 in the market.. Samsung has hundreds and thats the reason they cannot fullfill their upgrades..
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Switch to an iPhone and tell us how great it is.
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the thing i like about note 3 is apps to sd,other that,not in my mind
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Bhupen Gaitonde said:
Well Guys..
I think Samsung should learn from Apple atleast about the software updates.. Google is definitely going to launch 4.4 by year end and by March 4.5 or even 5.0..
But samsung will crawl along and fool us with voiding 4.3 and going to 4.4 and the same again for 4.5 and so on. eventually we will be stuck with 4.1.2 and wait for years for 4.4 or 4.5 or even 5.0..
Atleast apple has a theory of updating their iphones every year.
Remenber the saying.. TOO MANY COOKS SPOIL THE BROTH.. Too Many Handsets from samsung spoils the update lineup.. Just to give some time for the new handset to settle in. by the time the 4.3 update will be due.. expect news on Note 4 and again wait and wait for the crap touchwiz which required updates for note 2 after 4.1.2 update..
what the hell they are doing with the testing when they again have to update for hickups..
SHAME ON U.. SAMSUNG..
Even after having only 2 handsets in the lineup for Apple.. they are still on top and now Number 1 in the market.. Samsung has hundreds and thats the reason they cannot fullfill their upgrades..
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now ios7 can change homescreen wallpaper am i right??greatest update ever i think..
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It shows ur limit of thinking. I think u want only that..
Grow up.
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Check my signature.
I HAVE AN I PHONE. . And I am really happy with it.
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Bhupen Gaitonde said:
It shows ur limit of thinking. I think u want only that..
Grow up.
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Check my signature.
I HAVE AN I PHONE. . And I am really happy with it.
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So you're just here trolling then.
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No.. I appreciate all the devs here who r doing a great job.
But all of u are aware that Samsung sucks..
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Bhupen Gaitonde said:
No.. I appreciate all the devs here who r doing a great job.
But all of u are aware that Samsung sucks..
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You don't appreciate devs by sharing cracked apks..
And Samsung has to make an update for everyone.
That means it should have perfect battery life that everyone demands.
That means It should have the feature of s4&note 3 that everyone wants.
That means it should be completely but free and stable.
Either you expect that everyone is savvy enough to face and handle bugs or you think that Samsung don't face bugs or it isn't a part of development .
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UtkarshGupta said:
You don't appreciate devs by sharing cracked apks..
And Samsung has to make an update for everyone.
That means it should have perfect battery life that everyone demands.
That means It should have the feature of s4&note 3 that everyone wants.
That means it should be completely but free and stable.
Either you expect that everyone is savvy enough to face and handle bugs or you think that Samsung don't face bugs or it isn't a part of development .
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The guy apologised in the original thread so that info is irrelevant here
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fach1708 said:
The guy apologised in the original thread so that info is irrelevant here
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You can't deny the fact that he actually used it and might still be using it and maybe for more apps...
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Bhupen Gaitonde said:
No.. I appreciate all the devs here who r doing a great job.
But all of u are aware that Samsung sucks..
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So, you're just trolling. Like I said.
Feel free to depart since you have moved on to your iPhone.
Or roll around having a tantrum like a toddler.
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UtkarshGupta said:
You can't deny the fact that he actually used it and might still be using it and maybe for more apps...
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The fact remains it should be posted in the original thread and is not relevant to what is being discussed.
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Related

Spoiled brat whine!

I want a Nexus, I need Google Now NOW! I hate my S3, FML!!!!
Lol feel the same way, just chill out and we will get jelly bean like gnex but even more speed and smoothness and bigger display!
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It's kind of sad really. I mean the best way for android to compete against ios would be a nexus device with s3:s hardware. That would mean quick updates and no decision between best hardware and best software like we have now.
Thank you for putting words on my feelings.. I would really like my device to have the Nexus logo with pure Google experience and updates.. There is too many steps for a device to get updates.. First from Google then make their own skins and enhancements and then the carriers will bloat it some... Someone got a nexus here? I'm just thinking how it is to hold in the hand compared to s3
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pähkinä said:
It's kind of sad really. I mean the best way for android to compete against ios would be a nexus device with s3:s hardware. That would mean quick updates and no decision between best hardware and best software like we have now.
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There will be one, or a few coming around thanksgiving time. The question now is who will make the next nexus. There is that rumor that there will be 5 different Nexus devices by different manufacturers. We have already seen the Nexus 7 by asus, so that leaves 4 more. Unless they are also counting the Nexus Q as a nexus device which means we have 3 more to go
Just installed CM9 and my god.. I love this phone more now.. Can't believe I waited this long to do it
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norpan111 said:
Just installed CM9 and my god.. I love this phone more now.. Can't believe I waited this long to do it
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I don't want to do that yet, because as soon as I dump the Sammy-based ROMs and install AOSP it leaves me nowhere to go when (inevitably) I become unhappy with the phone's performance. I'm quite happy with the speed of it at present, and I'm not quite done playing with the built in features such as awesome codec support, Smart Stay and I'm itching to meet up with my friend who has just got his S3 so I can test out the Wi-Fi Direct thingy
setspeed said:
I don't want to do that yet, because as soon as I dump the Sammy-based ROMs and install AOSP it leaves me nowhere to go when (inevitably) I become unhappy with the phone's performance. I'm quite happy with the speed of it at present, and I'm not quite done playing with the built in features such as awesome codec support, Smart Stay and I'm itching to meet up with my friend who has just got his S3 so I can test out the Wi-Fi Direct thingy
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I can tell you.. If you think it's fast now.. Wait until you flash aosp woohoo
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norpan111 said:
Thank you for putting words on my feelings.. I would really like my device to have the Nexus logo with pure Google experience and updates.. There is too many steps for a device to get updates.. First from Google then make their own skins and enhancements and then the carriers will bloat it some... Someone got a nexus here? I'm just thinking how it is to hold in the hand compared to s3
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Me. I find the little bump at the bottom of the nexus makes it sit more naturally in the hand than the Galaxy.
By the way, pure opinion here but Google now sucks. It just sits there sucking up battery and doing stuff there are already widgets for and the voice search is about as weak as s voice.
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Theres nothing all that wrong with the stock sammy rom. Having to wait a bit for jb is only a minor inconveniencevat this stage.
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dr.m0x said:
Me. I find the little bump at the bottom of the nexus makes it sit more naturally in the hand than the Galaxy.
By the way, pure opinion here but Google now sucks. It just sits there sucking up battery and doing stuff there are already widgets for and the voice search is about as weak as s voice.
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Let's hope it's more polished when full version arrives :O i got this phone almost just because of the screenzise.. But I'm beginning to feel it's a little to big actually. You can reach everywhere on the screen with one hand without it being uncomfortable?
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Will the 7.7" ever get JB?

Ok so we finally got ICS for our tabs, but unfortunately we are already running behind as JB is already out or on its way to several devices. I was wondering if you guys think that we will ever see an OFFICIAL JB update to for our tabs. Please spare me the custom JB ROM replies, i am not asking or interested about that i am only interested in an official JB update. What do you guys think, possible or will Samsung forget about our 7.7" like they did with original 7" and just move on. Please share your thoughts on this.
I am hoping we can get Google Now on our tab, seen it running on the Nexus 7 and it is awsome, the Bitter UI would be nice as well but not a priority.
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Same question will be asked after JB when Google releases Android Lollipop !
Just be glad that your TAB is working on ICS, and that alone will open the door for CM9 and even CM10 as there's no changes in kernel.
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And BTW Google now has already been ported to ICS.
Officially... I say no looking from previous firmware update method by Samsung.
Maybe we can get it through CM or other Dev
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Coolman4now said:
Same question will be asked after JB when Google releases Android Lollipop !
Just be glad that your TAB is working on ICS, and that alone will open the door for CM9 and even CM10 as there's no changes in kernel.
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And BTW Google now has already been ported to ICS.
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I am glad and happy with improvements. Google now may have bee ported but voice part of it is not working, that is not a complete port, thats what happens when you start using custom roms, they never work 100%.
deani77 said:
Officially... I say no looking from previous firmware update method by Samsung.
Maybe we can get it through CM or other Dev
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No interested in cooked roms just official upgrades from now on. I have learned that once you start using cooked roms they never work 100%. Has happened to me with all roms from used on Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" and i have used many.
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It will be like 6 months after the launch of JB, like ICS
Where is my Key Lime Pie update! SAMSUNG SUX!!!1!
adinis78 said:
No interested in cooked roms just official upgrades from now on. I have learned that once you start using cooked roms they never work 100%. Has happened to me with all roms from used on Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" and i have used many.
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As for myself official ROM was on my phone 1 or 2 days after I bought my phone except for this TAB. After that I was on Custom which unlocked true potential of my phone...
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Doubtful. Highly.
adinis78 said:
I am glad and happy with improvements. Google now may have bee ported but voice part of it is not working, that is not a complete port, thats what happens when you start using custom roms, they never work 100%.
No interested in cooked roms just official upgrades from now on. I have learned that once you start using cooked roms they never work 100%. Has happened to me with all roms from used on Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" and i have used many.
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Hmmmm CM9 works very well on my i9000 and p1000, and i have no issues. When CM9 reaches nightly's for the 7.7 I am going to flash the Samsung firmware away
adinis78 said:
I am glad and happy with improvements. Google now may have bee ported but voice part of it is not working, that is not a complete port, thats what happens when you start using custom roms, they never work 100%.
No interested in cooked roms just official upgrades from now on. I have learned that once you start using cooked roms they never work 100%. Has happened to me with all roms from used on Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" and i have used many.
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i am so agree with you about cooked ROMs :highfive:
I doubt this tab will see 'official' JB from samsung. Once they release ICS kernel source then maybe we'll see an AOSP port. Samsung has released kernel source for the n7000 (gNote)
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no kidding, samsung would only give its product ONE major update historically.
so we will see galaxy tab 2 with laggy hardware&JB, and 7.7 with ics
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I dont think it will have jb from samsung...
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Guess will have to settle for 90% working custom roms then.
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I'll just expect the worst, which is NO. But just incase it comes in the future, its a bonus if I still have my Galaxy Tab 7.7 p6800.
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I use my Verizon 7.7 all the time as I fell in love with the size and the mobility. I sold my Asus Transformer Prime, because I was barely using it. So I am in an even bigger pickle because my tablet is through Verizon. I hate samsung and their development awareness. They take forever to bring updates and I really fell such a great and expensive tablet like the 7.7 will fall by the wasteside. I truly don't think JB will be coming out anytime in the near future. I still don't have ICS on this tablet, but I use a different launcher which helps with lag.
I would imagine that any new tablet in this size and with amoled would presumably debut either at IFA, probably not since Note 2 is coming at IFA, so a new 7.7 would appear at CES 2013, possibly with new AMOLED tech, making the device thinner, lighter and higher resolution screen.
I would say 95%
adinis78 said:
Guess will have to settle for 90% working custom roms then.
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95%... which I don't mind, if we can use ext4/NTFS, less bloatware, better battery, faster processes, etc...
manuarh said:
95%... which I don't mind, if we can use ext4/NTFS, less bloatware, better battery, faster processes, etc...
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Exactly, who doesn't want that. I understand there will be wrinkles but with an active development community like this then the more people that are running the ROMs will help improve them.
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Exactly, who doesn't want that. I understand there will be wrinkles but with an active development community like this then the more people that are running the ROMs will help improve them.
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Nobody in this thread is really complaining, but there have been ALOT of complaints in this forum due to limited dev support, but c'mon, we're early adopters! TRUST me, as this tech becomes more affordable, the dev community will be all over it.
There is MASSIVE potential to be unlocked with larger sAMOLED+ displays. Has anybody realised that human hands have never drawn, painted or written anything with such a pallette before? Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to the wind on this issue.
From what I can tell, 10%-20% of us are professional artists/photographers/developers. The rest of ya'll are just awesome enthusiasts...(professional in your own right, I'm sure)---
The strange thing is, we're spread out all over the world, and there looks to be less than 100,000 of us total.
Nobody I've talked to (I mean chatted with on here) knows anyone else, or has seen anyone else with one of these tablets. That makes each of us unique in our own social spheres. JB will come out within months through the dev community, and i'd rather see an AOSP/AOKP port of JB than another sammy-watered-down-whimpy-touch-wiz-fracked-wish-i-were-a-REAL-android-distro-CRAPOLA-"UPGRAYEDD"
**steps down of soap box**

Petition for S4 features on Galaxy Note.

I'm a fan of stock android. But this time i think Sammy really outdone themselves because software features on latest S4 got me excited. I really like the health and smart pause features on S4. So i encourage devs for porting that features like those Multiview and smart stay before Samaung release it in official update. Thanks u devs. I think xda forum is the best to do it.
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it's the hardware for the softwares this time around
Escaperoute said:
I'm a fan of stock android. But this time i think Sammy really outdone themselves because software features on latest S4 got me excited. I really like the health and smart pause features on S4. So i encourage devs for porting that features like those Multiview and smart stay before Samaung release it in official update. Thanks u devs. I think xda forum is the best to do it.
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i think you need those "humidity and temperature" sensors for S-Health...
Escaperoute said:
I'm a fan of stock android. But this time i think Sammy really outdone themselves because software features on latest S4 got me excited. I really like the health and smart pause features on S4. So i encourage devs for porting that features like those Multiview and smart stay before Samaung release it in official update. Thanks u devs. I think xda forum is the best to do it.
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Wait long long. It will never ever reach the Note officially if not ever.
It's time for the One.
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Don't forget Samsung sucks in their updates.
I look for every attention in detail and their widget is still not aligned properly.
I'm talking about the 5x1 widget. Not the ugly widget that they stick in your face.
As a designer myself, I find that horribly disgusting and completely unprofessional.
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I really like the health and smart pause features on S4. So i encourage devs for porting that features. Thanks u devs. I think xda forum is the best to do it.
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So really this is just a begging thread?
Either that, or I think you have the wrong idea about petitions.
What more do you want from samsung for ur note. Its over. Thank God u didnt request for a new hardware for the note.
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Correct. What more, if S V or Note 3,4 keep coming.
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In the best case, and to be realistic we can only ask for wallpapers, ringtones and live wallpapers from Galaxy S4. Notes is already old. If you want features from S4...just buy one.
ok, lets start with the wallpapers then ;p
Robbie might port some possible features ..theyll show up in his rom first
Livebyte said:
Wait long long. It will never ever reach the Note officially if not ever.
It's time for the One.
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Don't forget Samsung sucks in their updates.
I look for every attention in detail and their widget is still not aligned properly.
I'm talking about the 5x1 widget. Not the ugly widget that they stick in your face.
As a designer myself, I find that horribly disgusting and completely unprofessional.
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Yeah. See voice talk app v and t are small.
Not professional.
In gingerbread there was Music player.
Check settings, there are few headings with such mistakes too.
NOT big issues but finishing touch and overall quality is poor.
I would like to see feature updates available as a paid premium from the Samsung Apps store.
We have gotten our money's worth. Granted the Note N7000 should get 4.2.2 before the final chop on support, but beyond that, updating touchwiz, s-pen features and other Samsung exclusives could be easily done with a paid app update.
Remember how with Windows mobile 4 phones had a paid upgrade to 5? Maybe nothing so extreme as to be charged for an upgrade within the first two years of its release, but afterwards, to keep the phone fresh and new, I would gladly part with my hard earned cash.
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Livebyte said:
Wait long long. It will never ever reach the Note officially if not ever.
It's time for the One.
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Because HTC is better at back-porting new features to their old phones?
abubasim said:
Because HTC is better at back-porting new features to their old phones?
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/s detected.
Yeap, more efficiently. Look at Jelly Bean for our Note. Garbage.
I was making a mod today and noticed some code for finger air view (LSF) so its very possible that its either coming or possible for the note 1
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not-i said:
I was making a mod today and noticed some code for finger air view (LSF) so its very possible that its either coming or possible for the note 1
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Alot of the note 2 features are inside our roms just not activated. In secsettings/res/xml/ there are files such as quickglance2013.xml and maybe they are planning on activating these at some point.
Hopefully
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Nianfur said:
I would like to see feature updates available as a paid premium from the Samsung Apps store.
We have gotten our money's worth. Granted the Note N7000 should get 4.2.2 before the final chop on support, but beyond that, updating touchwiz, s-pen features and other Samsung exclusives could be easily done with a paid app update.
Remember how with Windows mobile 4 phones had a paid upgrade to 5? Maybe nothing so extreme as to be charged for an upgrade within the first two years of its release, but afterwards, to keep the phone fresh and new, I would gladly part with my hard earned cash.
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i think sammy should give at.least key lime.pie for original note.
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/s detected.
Yeap, more efficiently. Look at Jelly Bean for our Note. Garbage.
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Any examples of new features on the One that is also coming to the One X and older devices? You have done some research on this, haven't you?
abubasim said:
Any examples of new features on the One that is also coming to the One X and older devices? You have done some research on this, haven't you?
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Possibly everything including the new sexy BlinkFeed except the Remote app.
I also want the petition to start for note 3's features to note1
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abubasim said:
Because HTC is better at back-porting new features to their old phones?
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Their not good at back porting, they didnt even made the desire hd into ICS. And htc only supporting their most recent flagship when it comes to updates. And whats worse they only update it ones
By the time SIV feature apps installed on Original Note (oNote) there isn't enough memory to run them. Good Luck!
maskerwsk said:
Alot of the note 2 features are inside our roms just not activated. In secsettings/res/xml/ there are files such as quickglance2013.xml and maybe they are planning on activating these at some point.
Hopefully
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you know why? Cause Sammy was just making a dirty port of Note2-JB to our Note 1...they were not interested in doing it properly just for the 'old' Note...
So these features will never come to Note 1 officially - they are just leftovers...

I find a little strange that there was no 4.2.2 leak ...

With the S4 just weeks away from the final release presumably directly on 4.2.2 wouldn't have been a very smart idea to have something similar to that for S3 'accidentally' leak towards XDA so that Samsung could have many thousands of highly-qualified beta-testers iron-out most of the last-second surprises? Since the 4.2.1 leak was not looking very convincing to me, and it looked like it really needed more extra testing ...
I find a little strange that... Samsung still updating the S3
I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
Do we have an ETA for 4.2 update?
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I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
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Well a common theory is that Samsung are themselves responsible for the leaks, or at the very least, very much aware of, but indifferent to their occurrence.
And it makes sense. So many development ROMs get leaked, it seems odd to think that they would have NO way to prevent, or at least reduce, them if they wanted to.
IMHO makes business sense, when you think about it...
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I'm sure we will get a leak when they have something worth leaking, alpha testing is more than likely conducted in house, for obvious reasons, and I wouldn't expect a 4.2.x update for at least 8 weeks after the s4 release.
My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the, let's face it, dubious skills of your average xda end user!
And if anyone did try leaking an alpha, I'm pretty sure they would get hung out to dry!
....but then I might be completely wrong!
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My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the...
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That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
bveditz said:
That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I had it running for at least 3 weeks myself. The main reason I stopped using it was the battery life. I was getting about 4-6 hours with my 2500mah extended battery and would get pretty warm frequently. I have spare batteries, but it still got to be too much. I don't know if that was common for others, but I have a habit of running a lot of apps at the same time with push notifications and such, I think power management wasn't built out very well so it really impacted my use. The same apps and such get me about 8-10+ hours with the 4.1 roms (nearly double the battery life).
There were a few other little issues as well. I stuck it out longer than usual hoping some more 4.2 leaks would come out, but none did. Even the custom roms releases didn't offer any improvements, just the usual google apps updates.
Not a big deal, I mostly wanted 4.2 because I was hoping for camera updates, widget lockscreen, toggle panel, etc. I liked the widget lockscreen, but they didn't do anything with the camera. The toggle panel didn't prove to be that useful because the 25 toggle mod kinda does that just fine anyway. Other than the 4.2 improvements that samsung included from the stock 4.2 experience, I'm not really in any rush for a 4.2 rom on the S3. Other than smart stay and smart notifications, I really don't use many of the current S3 gimmicks and the S4 software gimmicks are just more of the same. Even google now is much more useful than s-voice.
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I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
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I don't think you understood my post - I was suggesting that it would make good business sense for Samsung to make that leak (and some other posters have noted the same thing about the older leak).
The final S4 will face one order of magnitude more competition now than S3 did one year ago, so having bugs that result in many apps not working well or too much power consumption and so on would NOT be good for Samsung, and the only way to test that on a large scale (give that there are no large scale S4 deployment) would be to "fake leak" a 4.2.2 for S3 - which the S3 WILL get anyway in the final form at some point!
Usual is we get a leak its probably a beta test deliberate leak .
Then it takes a fair while before the genuine release rolls out .
XDA cheap beta testers .
jje
I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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negrobembon said:
lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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i had two lg's and im not complaining about because i had lg im complaining because i had a nexus
thats why i said i was spoiled by it as i know Oem phones dont update as fast as google devices(lg and motorola are overkill)
good thing is that samsung is the best android maker(after google) with updates
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You know we started recieving leaks for 4.1.2 when the note 2 came out so I am sure in a few we will see some good leaks.
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But i do think Samsung will first release 4.2.1 without s4 feature and then release 4.2.2 with s4 features same like they did with s2 and s3 (4.1.1 and 4.1.2)
Because if they give us a update directly with s4 features it will affect s4 sales
Anyways it is now heard that android 5.0 is postponed and will not com in Google io so we gave plenty of time for 2 updates
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27AUG2013 We need more Android 4.2 ROMS

Android 4.3/CM10.2 ROMS are growing in number, and many former Android 4.2 and CM 10.1 ROMS have been evolved into the newer builds. Problem is that Graphic Glitches on Android 4.3 for Samsung Exynos phones are substantial, and they make the user experience quite unstable and at times very irritating.
We need developers to continue updating 4.2 ROMS with the latest features (e.g. Focal, HALO2, etc...) for a while until the Graphic glitches on 4.3 ROMS are dealt with sufficiently. Maybe a new PA or CM 10.1 ROM would be a good place to start. Current 4.2.2 ROMS still being developed lack many new features and recent updates.
Thanks for everyone who helps. If you agree with the idea, press THANKS below to show the number of those interested.
We need 4.2 roms which dont deplete your battery in 5 minutes lol.
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We need Android 5 key lime pie
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we need nexus note series...
We need shoes that allow us to fly.
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Try out SlimRom build 8. It's 4.2.2 and stable, fast and battery friendly and include all the customization options you need.
With that said I would also like to say that my modded stock and odexed 4.1.2 is working like a charm and nothing beats it.
Try developing yourself and you will know how difficult it is. Just begging and demanding don't work. Go fork some repos and port 4.3 changes back into 4.2
And the issue of graphic glitches is not anyone's but Samsung's fault because they haven't released updated GPU drivers. And non of the 4.3 Roms mentioned stable so such glitches are expected.
If you are not satisfied with whats avilablr then either make your own stuff or suffice with whats available.
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We need shoes that allow us to fly.
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Pmsl..
GT N7105 with XDA Premium......that is all......
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"...some of the users here don't seem to be able to even comprehend the situation. And so they talk nonsense. Get your facts right and we'll discuss again. Please. Hopefully this'll be my last post about this topic."
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Source
NightHawkUndead said:
We need shoes that allow us to fly.
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Nike air... hello
Why do we need them? You sort of fail to mention that.
Lock screen widgets? Please.
What else? The fact it's a bigger number?
We need another lockscreen shortcut on top of any current lockscreen shortcut
We need a transparent iphone
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More 4.2 roms??? Really? I think we already got very good rooms and developers. There is no perfect rom if that what you're looking for.
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