I currently have a Galaxy S4 I don't like because it is locked down, and touchwiz is straight out horrible. Do you guys have any suggestions and/or advantages or disadvantages from getting one over the other?
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I'll let you know after the Nexus 5 is released and a few weeks after when people gets their hands on the device and reviews of it are posted, right now Google haven't officially announce it yet.
Most HTC phones have locked bootloaders too. If you want unlocked bootloader without the extra works you can buy the Galaxy S4 or HTC One Google Edition which the bootloader can easily be unlocked with the command "fastboot oem unlock".
Comparing advantages base on hardware specs before its official release is just going to be speculation. We can however compared them by software. Nexus is going to get update faster than the HTC One regardless if it's the Sense or Google Edition. And Nexus will always be unlocked and more affordable, no doubht
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I'll let you know after the Nexus 5 is released and a few weeks after when people gets their hands on the device and reviews of it are posted, right now Google haven't officially announce it yet.
Most HTC phones have locked bootloaders too. If you want unlocked bootloader without the extra works you can buy the Galaxy S4 or HTC One Google Edition which the bootloader can easily be unlocked with the command "fastboot oem unlock".
Comparing advantages base on hardware specs before its official release is just going to be speculation. We can however compared them by software. Nexus is going to get update faster than the HTC One regardless if it's the Sense or Google Edition. And Nexus will always be unlocked and more affordable, no doubht
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Thanks. I am not looking to see which will be a more powerful phone because as you said, it's not released yet. I am just wondering what people on this forum would do in my situation and why. I could buy a HTC One now or wait, and I can't decided so I figured XDA could help.
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Well it depends on your preference. Do you like HTC phones, good build quality, loud phone speakers, good low light camera, Sense? HTC One does have alot of compelling features, just that there are lots of competition and good choices out there to consider, like the LG G2, Sony Z1, Galaxy S4 and Note 3.
The HTC One might be for you. Just that if you buy the locked version, if you unlock the bootloader you will lose your warranty, and the process the unlock and root typically take more work than a Nexus. I never had to RMA mine Nexus, but Google is more open and they might not even care if you unlocked their bootloader or root it.
In my case, I would wait for the Nexus 5 and see if the features and hardware it offer is an upgrade or comparable to what the HTC One offers. I already know it will likely be plastic and not as good speakers. But it will be cheaper, unlocked, lots of developers and roms, latest Android version (4.4). You'll have to weigh the pro and cons for your needs.
Nexus 5.
I refuse to pay 600 dollars for a cell phone.
I also am never playing the game of phones not being unlocked. All the band issues that go on with global unlocked models etc.
It's a no brainer imo, nexus hands down! The one and s4 are beautiful phones(well, the one is lol) and very capable but I wouldn't trade my current n4 for either. Honestly, the s4 and one are only marginally better than our current gen n4 and that's only on paper....of course this is only my opinion.
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The HTC One might be for you. Just that if you buy the locked version, if you unlock the bootloader you will lose your warranty, and the process the unlock and root typically take more work than a Nexus. I never had to RMA mine Nexus, but Google is more open and they might not even care if you unlocked their bootloader or root it.
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The big advantage there with the Nexus devices is that it's always easy to return to stock. Google posts the factory images so that you can flash back to stock and relock the bootloader and the device is just like how you bought it. I owned the HTC One briefly and even though I had a model that could get S-OFF (not not something you need to worry about with Nexus devices) it was a PITA to get it back to stock to return it.
If your big problems with the Galaxy S4 are the device being locked down and the terrible interface, I'd wait for the Nexus 5.
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I have loved my N1 since launch day and love my T-Mobile service.
But am looking to upgrade to a dual-core phone with much more application space available and a better screen, performance, battery life, etc...
Is anyone in the same position as me and looking between these phones?
Also, do you all know if the "4G" bands for the Sensation will work for the LTE network of ATT should the merger go through?
Thanks for all your input!!
It would be nice if you knew whether HTC was going to retro the unlock to the sensation. Without this to me the sensation is not a contender. Another unknown would be what radios a tmo sgs2 is going to come out with. The international version does not give you full 3G support on the current network but I would not be surprised to see support for the merger in a tmo version and you would of course have the radios you need now as well.
I know this is not maybe what your asking but having the sgs2 and coming from the N1 which I still have I would say that it might not be a bad idea to consider waiting a little bit longer. With the s2 things are faster and the screen is really nice but I am not able to do a single thing that I could not do with the N1. Side by side the performance of the N1 is not bad and and I'm actually impressed with how well it holds up to a generationally newer device. IMO handsets are getting good enough now that getting a new device is becoming more of an incremental upgrade than a means of gaining new capability. I suppose this depends on how patient you are obviously but with the sensation launch happening so soon hanging a little longer might see the bootloader question sorted out and you may also at that point find out what radios a tmo S2 is going to be packing. These things would let you make a better decision.
Great post man. I agree for the most part, now when upgrading phones, in terms of. Hardware anyway, you have a jump in performance but with the applications that are being used for the phone to specs aren't that demanding.
I think that, being on ATT and having a Nexus 1 I'm going to wait for the Galaxy S 2. A larger screen and a little more processing power is all that I need.
Aside from the fact that I'm not on Tmobile, in never going to get a phone with a locked bootloader.
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With the release of HtcDev.com I am sure that they will be unlocking ALL HTC devices.
That they will and it's a good move to make, however it isn't unlocked right now. Also, they might have some stupid requirement giving up the warranty or something.
Regardless, the galaxy S 2 has better specs with a thinner design and better screen. They're both great phones and if I was on Tmobile Id definitely get one.
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Yeah that's true but with regards to the warranty situation HTC has been pretty good honoring their hardware warranty with Unlocked Nexus One's
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Yeah that's true but with regards to the warranty situation HTC has been pretty good honoring their hardware warranty with Unlocked Nexus One's
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Oh I know, I have a Nexus 1 myself with an unlocked bootloader. That was a half assed point I jus threw out because of its slim possibility.
I'm just hoping that there aren't going to be any asterisks when they start unlocking them.
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How many fellow verizon users, particularly galaxy nexus users are tempted to pick up the developer edition on Monday? I think I will bite. Hopefully once this sale happens development will start to pick up since it seems like a lot of people are going to bite this deal.
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How many fellow verizon users, particularly galaxy nexus users are tempted to pick up the developer edition on Monday? I think I will bite. Hopefully once this sale happens development will start to pick up since it seems like a lot of people are going to bite this deal.
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Former Galaxy Nexus, current Moto X Dev Ed user checking in here. Can't recommend this phone enough. Best I've ever had, and first I've ever had that quelled my desire for CM. Get it.
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Trying out T mobile with a Nexus 5 now. I love the phone and the service works well enough. Still thinking about picking up the X though so I can stay with VZ. Corp discount, much wider coverage, and unlimited data is hard to leave. I've been traveling over the holiday and haven't gotten signal in some areas with TMO. Not used to having to worry about that. The only thing that concerns me about the X is the near total lack of development. It's running 4.4 now but it remains to be seen if that update pace will continue in the future.
I have a feeling more people will jump on the custom versions. Especially now that root is available for 4.4 and AOSP isn't worth giving up Moto X features.
Edit: I had the Dev edition and am thinking about the custom version myself.
Edit: Just saw this as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48033832#post48033832
Currently have a Dev edition and may be trying out a custom one. Thing that sucks is I can't decide what color combinations I want. I like the look of the Dev edition though so I'm not worried if I can't get in on this. Hopefully Moto added some extra server capacity...but in the end it doesn't really matter since demand always exceeds the preparation.
If I do get it, it will definitely be the dev edition. I wish it was black but I plan on putting a case on it anyway so the front is really the only part that matters.
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I have a feeling more people will jump on the custom versions. Especially now that root is available for 4.4 and AOSP isn't worth giving up Moto X features.
Edit: I had the Dev edition and am thinking about the custom version myself.
Edit: Just saw this as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48033832#post48033832
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I just like the fact that with an unlocked bootloader I never have to worry about a future update killing root, etc.
theres about 5 of us among my friends who all rocked the vzw gnex.
i sold mine for a nokia 928 over the summer and then went moto x a few weeks ago. never looked back.
one switched to tmobile for a nexus 5..but now is tempted to get a tmobile moto x and randomlly sim swap cause of the deal.
and i think i convinced the remaining 3 to all go for the deal tomorrow to replace their gnex's haha
I debated swapping my 16gb for a 32gb dev edition...but i'm okay with running stock on this beauty.
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I just like the fact that with an unlocked bootloader I never have to worry about a future update killing root, etc.
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Me too but I really haven't seen a need for root that I couldn't live without. My Dev Ed remained without root for 3 weeks and I only rooted it out of curiosity after they changed the warranty.
How does the moto X compare with the Nexus 5?
Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.
I would jump if I hadn't already. Great phone.
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Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.
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That's for the bootloader locked version. I believe 'fastboot oem unlock' will unlock the dev edition, just like the gnex.
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That's for the bootloader locked version. I believe 'fastboot oem unlock' will unlock the dev edition, just like the gnex.
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Almost. You need to retrieve the unlock code from Motorola first. Then it's fastboot oem unlock codegoeshere
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Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.
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Yes. It is root able for 4.2.2 & 4.4
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I'm coming from an S3, picking up the Moto X today with the sale. I'm torn between the DE and a custom. Right now I'm leaning towards custom because of all the great reviews of Moto's edits. BUT, I am worried about the longevity of the device lacking an unlocked bootloader.
Any advice?
I just picked up a vzw developer while it was in stock. I am having buyers remorse though as I have an HTC One currently. I need to be able to sell my One to make up for the cost of the Dev X or it will have to go back.
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I'm coming from an S3, picking up the Moto X today with the sale. I'm torn between the DE and a custom. Right now I'm leaning towards custom because of all the great reviews of Moto's edits. BUT, I am worried about the longevity of the device lacking an unlocked bootloader.
Any advice?
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I'm also having worries about this device (except that it looks awesome). I'm just not seeing much activity for this device compared to others. I'm wondering if I should just wait another month or two and get the LG G2 for free when my contract is up instead of buying this? Oy.
I jumped on the deal. Of course, "jumped" in this context means I spent eight hours bashing my head against Motorola's broken website before I was finally able to place an order, and by the looks of their Twitter feed I was one of the lucky ones. They left a lot of people out in the cold today, with the website issues combined with limited inventory....
Been looking for a replacement for my Galaxy Nexus almost since day one. I love the ease of flashing that puppy but almost everything else about it stinks. Crappy battery life, particularly on LTE, but the real kicker was the never ending reception problems. Others have documented these issues, and I've been through three replacement phones (at least Verizon tried!) without success. It's fine for me when I'm stationary, most of the issues seem to be with handoffs while mobile. I've dropped calls with the GNex in parts of VZW's network where I haven't seen dropped calls since the Bell Atlantic days....
$400 for the unlocked DE is an awesome deal, I think, particularly for users with grandfathered unlimited data who want a flagship phone. On that same note, I'm told it works flawlessly with T-Mobile, so if Verizon pulls UL data I know what 'Plan B' is.....
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I just picked up a vzw developer while it was in stock. I am having buyers remorse though as I have an HTC One currently. I need to be able to sell my One to make up for the cost of the Dev X or it will have to go back.
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I hope you are aware that the return policy says it takes 4-6 weeks to get a refund from they date they receive the phone back.
OK so there are alot of posts from people stating this or that, but i haven't actually seen anybody who really is confirming if they are getting the device or not. Long story short, Who is actually waiting for the galaxy S5 to release, and what carrier? I am also interested if any Devs chime in to confirm they are going to be developing for the device. etc.
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UPDATE: Leaning towards the M8.
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Providing all things to do with sound is on par with s4/note 3 then defo yes.
so a loud loudspeaker
loud earpiece
loud enough audio in headphones
If root doesn't screw things around (Knox), I'll get one. Can't wait to see the blue one personally.
I'll be getting it the day it drops as well -- AT&T. I've got my eye on the "electric blue" model.
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I'll be getting it the day it drops as well -- AT&T. I've got my eye on the "electric blue" model.
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Yep, same here, at&t and Elextric Blue. I cant friggin wait to be honest! been saving my upgrade for a while now.
Let's see I have the Vivid which on my AT&T plan is way overdue for an upgrade.
I waited for the Nexus 5 then wasn't happy with the reviews so decided to wait for the S5 but now see the HTC M8 is coming soon followed by the Note 3.
At this rate I'll just sit back and watch all these good phones come and go while I stay with my Vivid!
I will probably get the S5, it' silly being on an AT&T contract and not taking advantage of the subsidized phones.
Of course I'll buy the oppo find 7 instead
Not unless a 32GB developer edition for VZW comes out. NoMo locked bootloaders for me.
I ordered the black one the day after the presentation at Barcelona, while not impressed at all by the presentation this phone will certainly be competent enough for me to hack away on for a good time coming :good:
I really like the soft shape and materials of the S5, its called user friendly!
I'm getting it on sprint, but I'm really curious to see if the premium version rumors are true, so I'm going to wait till May.
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I'm getting it on sprint, but I'm really curious to see if the premium version rumors are true, so I'm going to wait till May.
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My feelings exactly....I want the S5 but.....if another version is coming in may. I will wait for that one....
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My feelings exactly....I want the S5 but.....if another version is coming in may. I will wait for that one....
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if there is no premium, i would jump all over the xperia z2 if it came to sprint, but most likely it wont, so GS5 may be my only option. Still will be a good upgrade from GS3.
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I'm getting it on sprint, but I'm really curious to see if the premium version rumors are true, so I'm going to wait till May.
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Ditto, but on AT&T. If no premium version comes out I'd be fine with the S5, if I like how it feels in-hand.
My S2 is still ticking, but I'm itching for an upgrade.
Hope it supports voodoo
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I can't wait to get a chance to test out the S5 in store as well as the M8, in my opinion that's the only way to get a true feel/judgement for the phone. At the moment I am heavily leaning towards the S5 but the Oppo Find 7 has me a bit excited.
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I have an upgrade in April and 2 in June so the plan is for the s5 to get me by til then and hopefully the new HTC and the new LG will both be available by then. I always enjoy Samsung devices when i first get them, but they grow stale quickly and i want something new to play with.
Waiting for release and initial price drop to normal to buy....
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Not going to buy it, for the featured specs it's too big and I don't need a fingerprint sensor (don't trust things like that) and all the fitness gadgets. Also not a big fan of all the bloatware "worth" $500.
Going to wait for the premium version if that doesn't happen, I'll be be buying the S4 Advanced or Blackberry Q20
I was going to get the S5, then said no and got the Note 3. After a week I realized it was just too big for daily use so I did some comparisons on S4's and other devices in the 5" range. I returned it to AT&T and decided to wait for the S5. I immediately pre-ordered my Spigen case and Glas.tR Slim tempered glass protector for mid April time frame. I don't see the 2GB vs 3GB of RAM as an issue since I never really used the 3GB ever on my prior Note 3's (Verizon or AT&T) and when I had the GS4 I never used the 2GB of RAM so I don't see that as an issue. HRM isn't the draw for me, fingerprint isn't either. But 32GB of storage, microSD and what appears to be finally a solid camera IS the draw.
MAYBE.
I will FOR SURE NOT GET the ATT or Verizon S5 (I am on ATT network) I have had the ATT Galaxy S, ATT S2, ATT S3, ATT S4 BUT I was lucky to get my S4 before they locked the bootloader down hard. So I was able to use the great Motochopper +Casual root and twrp recovery. So I can flash ANYTHING like normal in the past. ASOP BASED/GE/TW BASED Roms.
The problem with the S4 after MF3 4.3 firmware was it was locked down HARDER and you can only use safestrap. This ONLY allows flashing SOME Roms and NO asop/CM/aokp/GE Roms AT ALL. Just check out the ATT S4 forums for details on using safestrap which is the only type of recovery available for 4.3. Nothing for the 4.4.2 at this time. So IF I got my S4 at a later date there is NO way I would have dealt with it flashing only a limited variety of anything.
ATT already stated they will NOT use any phone except bootloader locked in the future. So I am out. This is the same for Verizon.
Now IF I say YES that I am getting the S5 it will HAVE to be either T-Mobile or International version as at least with the S4 they do NOT lock the bootloaders. So I will be buying it NOT on contract.
So save your money for a unlocked bootloader model rather than using your upgrade. Cause I can guarantee you with ATT or Verizon you will NOT be flashing Roms and stuff very easily or at all. It will most likely be locked down harder than the S4 is now. The 4.4.2 firmware has been out about a month for the ATT S4 and a bootloader bypass has not been found yet.
Even if there is a good bypass (I say good not GREAT) like Safestrap I will NOT spend my money and upgrade on. IF a true bypass to the bootloader is found (like MotoChopper) then I would do it. But MotoChopper only worked on the first two firmwares the S4 had. So IF YOU WANT TO FLASH Roms and such Do Not purchase from ATT or Verizon. This will ALSO limit devs and Roms coming to the locked bootloader versions.
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What are everyone's expectations on the bootloader situation for the Nexus 6? Is the fact that this is a NEXUS giving anyone hope it will be easy to unlock or will Verizon screw us once more?
I don't think Google would have allowed the Nexus 6 to be on Verizon unless there was an agreement in place that this phone would be handled by google. Then again, Verizon never ceases to disappoint me so ya never know.
I was wondering the exact thing. Before I get too excited... Hopefully this phone doesn't end up being the first nexus that's locked down, and that's why Verizon agreed to it.
From what I can tell there are only two models of the N6, a US version and a Worldwide version. So there's no room for Verizon to lock down the device or delay OTAs for Verizon customers specifically.
My VZW GNex didn't have a locked bootloader, so I don't see why they would be allowed to lock this one down. Locking a Nexus bootloader is sacrilege.
From what I have read on the press release on the N6 while it will be compatible for all carriers and CAN be sold at all carriers once they comply to agreements with Google.
That means that either they have to comply with all that Google is asking for with this device, or they cannot sell it in their carriers. Verizon and AT&T might have to ignore their liberties when coming to that contract, but T-Mobile and Sprint will likely bend over backwards for Google.
I have a feeling at&t and verizon will lock it down and put bloatware on it.
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I have a feeling at&t and verizon will lock it down and put bloatware on it.
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Bloatware, Si; lock down, No!
No Locked bootloader but updates may still come delayed because thats is what is happening with the Nexus 7 2013 LTE when VZW came into the picture.
I'm getting mine through Verizon but the discussion is the same.... will there be any difference between the Play Store and carrier versions. I think one of two scenarios will happen.
A. There's no difference, carriers will load them up with bloat. But who cares? If it's completely unlocked you will be easily able to root, wipe, rom, etc....
B. They lock the bootloaders. This would completely crush carrier sales. The majority of people interested in this phone are Android enthusiasts. Google knows that. Google also has to have good sales through the carriers at the new price point. So they likely would not agree to have a locked down Nexus 6 sold through carriers.
I am fairly confident the phones will be identical. This particular SoC, the 805, unlike all the other Qualcomm kits has discreet radio hardware not on the SoC. All of the 800/801 before it and the 808/810 after it have integrated radio hardware. I think this was an intentional agreement that Motorola/Google brokered with Qualcomm/Carriers. This way they can all sell one identical handset but the carriers will only push radio/modem updates to keep things working on their networks, but they will tell us that all software/OS updates will come from Google directly.
This ushers in a new paradigm in that for the first time we will have a truly unlocked device across all carriers and it is set up that way by design so carriers can control radio hardware and Motorola/Google can control the OS.
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I'm getting mine through Verizon but the discussion is the same.... will there be any difference between the Play Store and carrier versions. I think one of two scenarios will happen.
A. There's no difference, carriers will load them up with bloat. But who cares? If it's completely unlocked you will be easily able to root, wipe, rom, etc....
B. They lock the bootloaders. This would completely crush carrier sales. The majority of people interested in this phone are Android enthusiasts. Google knows that. Google also has to have good sales through the carriers at the new price point. So they likely would not agree to have a locked down Nexus 6 sold through carriers.
I am fairly confident the phones will be identical. This particular SoC, the 805, unlike all the other Qualcomm kits has discreet radio hardware not on the SoC. All of the 800/801 before it and the 808/810 after it have integrated radio hardware. I think this was an intentional agreement that Motorola/Google brokered with Qualcomm/Carriers. This way they can all sell one identical handset but the carriers will only push radio/modem updates to keep things working on their networks, but they will tell us that all software/OS updates will come from Google directly.
This ushers in a new paradigm in that for the first time we will have a truly unlocked device across all carriers and it is set up that way by design so carriers can control radio hardware and Motorola/Google can control the OS.
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Why no C? No bloat, no lock - like the N5?
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Or Verizon says, "You can use the Nexus 6 on our system only if you move to a tiered data plan".
That's a roadblock for me at least.
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Why no C? No bloat, no lock - like the N5?
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Well sure. It's possible. But as long as it's unlocked the addition of bloat is a moot point. You just root and uninstall the bloat. I am not familiar with the N5. None of the Nexus family has gotten my attention until now.
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From what I can tell there are only two models of the N6, a US version and a Worldwide version. So there's no room for Verizon to lock down the device or delay OTAs for Verizon customers specifically.
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Didn't know that, sweet. Well then yeah. Now I'm just wondering about the Turbo.
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Didn't know that, sweet. Well then yeah. Now I'm just wondering about the Turbo.
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I'm seriously considering grabbing the N6 myself, even though the G3 was just recently unlocked I've never had a Nexus. I'm like you though, I see all the valid points as to why our Verizon N6 shouldn't be locked... But it's Verizon lol would it totally surprise you if it did end up being locked down??
The Turbo on the other hand most certainly will be locked down no?
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I'm seriously considering grabbing the N6 myself, even though the G3 was just recently unlocked I've never had a Nexus. I'm like you though, I see all the valid points as to why our Verizon N6 shouldn't be locked... But it's Verizon lol would it totally surprise you if it did end up being locked down??
The Turbo on the other hand most certainly will be locked down no?
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I will only buy unlocked phones as I still am on the unlimited plan. I really hate that verizon has locked down many phones that I have wanted. I would buy the droid turbo or nexus 6 as long it's unlocked.
The Droid Turbo is probably locked down pretty good, if the previous Droids are any indicator.
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I'm personally looking forward to the Nexus 6 but I'm really hoping it will come bootloader unlocked or I'm seriously considering dumping VZW, after having two straight phones with unlocked bootloaders I'm seriously looking forward to it again
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The Droid Turbo is probably locked down pretty good, if the previous Droids are any indicator.
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I agree with this ... It'll be nice and locked down I'd imagine.
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I'm personally looking forward to the Nexus 6 but I'm really hoping it will come bootloader unlocked or I'm seriously considering dumping VZW, after having two straight phones with unlocked bootloaders I'm seriously looking forward to it again
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Smartest thing to do probably is not get it on launch and just wait and see. I'd think it will be unlocked like many others have said.
One thing I'm wishing the N6 had though was a removable battery. 32/64 GB internal memory makes up for no SD card but... I really like having 2 batteries and it's a 3200mah battery right??
That Turbo battery is ridiculous..
Coming from a GNex running shiny ROM, I'm excited about the N6, I figure it would have to be unlocked being a Nexus device, however VZ has screwed us before.
I'm somewhat worried about the size, but could get over that. I'm figuring that with luck, VZ will place it on edge/installment, no one is going to outright buy it in their store IMO...
Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.
With Samsung's current path to block root I doubt there will be much development at least not for a while. I haven't rooted my last 3 phones (note 5&7 v20), because it's become such a hassle anymore.
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Thanks.
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With Samsung's current path to block root I doubt there will be much development at least not for a while. I haven't rooted my last 3 phones (note 5&7 v20), because it's become such a hassle anymore.
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Thanks for your reply, I was wondering if the s8 was going to have a locked bootloader. That'll make my decision easily.
I would almost put money on the bootloader being locked. Not saying one of the devs here won't get around it, but it could take some time.
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Development is becoming more difficult on all phones not just Samsung. Google are making things more difficult for developers. The days of ROM and Kernel development reached it's peak years back and has been in decline ever since. Especially because important features rely on having a locked down device. Also, one of the reasons people developed custom software is to add more features, many of which are part of the standard package when buying a new phone these days.
If you want flexibility and enjoy the development on XDA then Oneplus are your best choice. They are getting most of the attention now. It's the new Nexus. I'll get an S8 and if I get bored, I'll sell and get the next Oneplus 4 or whatever it'll be called. So I can play.
Get an international, word is the Snapdragons will have locked bootloaders across the board in the same fashion as the Note 7. Time will tell.
kevinchristopherson said:
Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.
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Hoping they will be same as S7/S7 Edge in terms of dev support as both S8 and S8+ will run on Exynos Chip Worlwide other than US
I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.
Sounds that way
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I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.
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Samsung has supposedly confirmed this.
jpinks said:
I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.
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They already do I bought my S7 Unlocked Edge last year direct from Samsung with the option to upgrade to a unlocked S8 or S8 + this year....
jpinks said:
I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct.
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I've looked all over for this, but no luck. Would you give me a link to buy (direct) an unlocked or unlockable G6? Thanks!
I'm still holding out, haven't thrown my s7 away just yet, to get back into the v20. so I'll just keep waiting for the word on the G6 or the s8+ ,, Hopefully something happens and they unlock that boot-loader.
T-Mobile's version of the G6 bootloader is unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/unlock-bootloader-tmo-t3578099
I feel like rooting and ROMing is dead. You have to go through a massive hassle now to even get your hands on a phone that allows it. A real shame.
JodyBreeze901 said:
T-Mobile's version of the G6 bootloader is unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/unlock-bootloader-tmo-t3578099
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It appears now like the phone may be reporting unlocked but isn't actually unlocking. Too soon to tell on that but it wouldn't be the first time for LG. It's old advice but more relevant by the day, if root is important do not buy in until it's proven.
kevinchristopherson said:
Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.
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Easy...just buy a exynos version, no locked BL (at least the note 7 and s7 edge arent locked).
No point in buying snapdragon based sammy products now as it seems they are locking them down.
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