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1080 playback on pc

Hi guys,i have a weird problem,when i play back 1080 video on my pc its jerky,but all other modes play back smooth any suggestions please ?i have the new camera firmware update,rooted,with latest firmware stock rom.thx
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tuddsta said:
Hi guys,i have a weird problem,when i play back 1080 video on my pc its jerky,but all other modes play back smooth any suggestions please ?i have the new camera firmware update,rooted,with latest firmware stock rom.thx
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So you recorded 1080p video on your SGS2, and it won't play properly on your PC?
Sounds like your PC is too slow, or it's not hardware decoding. Try Media Player Classic or KMPlayer if you're on Windows.

Ok ill try that.thx
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Even vlc player not working.will try the above suggestion still.
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Xero Xenith said:
So you recorded 1080p video on your SGS2, and it won't play properly on your PC?
Sounds like your PC is too slow, or it's not hardware decoding. Try Media Player Classic or KMPlayer if you're on Windows.
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LOL, yeah, this should go in the PC section, not SGSII section.
To OP: Try updating your codecs too, other than that... get a new computer!

I had the same problem with my sony vaio FW31J. Should be good enough to play it, but it was jerky and images stopped sometime.
I have no idea why but it would only do this when my laptop wasn't plugged in.
When I was on battery it had the problem. And no I did not have any energysaving module on.

installed these codecs:
http://www.cccp-project.net/
the right click on file and choose open with, choose media player classic, if this isnt very smooth then get back to us.
What generation of gfx card do you have, gerforce, ati, 5,6,7, 280,460 etc

Google CCCP to get Media player classic (for your PC) and make sure you get DXVA enabled. Every Windows versions has a slightly different setup, and only about 2 year and younger video cards (AMD/Nvidia)can take advantage of DXVA. Can someone say if any integrated Intel video chipsets can do DXVA?

LOL at mobile phone being faster than computer

Lol i actually have an m15x.the computer im using is an old athlon.ill try on my own i think.
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As much as people think it might be a pc issue I experience the same thing on my i5 750 @3.9GHz. Op I think it is due to 1080p video recording not being as many fps and smooth as 720p. I've watched other peoples recorded 1080p as well and it's the sam whn the phone camera is panning. Some people may not notice it as much or choose to ignore it but I just use 720p for now. Maybe with some overclocking it can push out a steady 30 fps 1080p.

What are the specs of your computer? I've played plenty of 1080p videos from my phone on my comp without issue.

Like mark 2222 says plenty of power its actualy a p4 2.9, with 2gig ram.old but should suffice.720 plays back smooth
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tuddsta said:
Like mark 2222 says plenty of power its actualy a p4 2.9, with 2gig ram.old but should suffice.720 plays back smooth
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P4 2.9GHz is obviously not enough if you can't play it back. I've tried dual Xenon 2.4GHz (about 8 years old) and it had problem playing back 720p content so don't expect your 2.9GHz to play back 1080p. Buy a new graphics card, or a new computer, or don't try to play 1080p content.

It's often not the processor that's the issue. We can see that the SGS2's and Tegra 2 processors are fine, but much slower than an i5.
The problem is often the graphics card. Don't blame the processor or the phone until you're sure you're using your graphics card to render the videos, not the processor! That's what they're for! It also needs to be capable of hardware decoding 1080p.
1080x1920 = ~2 million pixels
720x1280 = ~1 million pixels
1080p has more than double the number of pixels as 720p. It's a big step up!

lets just be clear here, this is NOT a pc spec issue, I can play hd movies on my 6 year old laptop which has a crappy celeron cpu onboard and an ati radeon 7000, this is a codec issue or something to do with the way the video is recorded. I will do some tests on my rig and report back.

tuddsta said:
Like mark 2222 says plenty of power its actualy a p4 2.9, with 2gig ram.old but should suffice.720 plays back smooth
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Haha, no way. That is not powerful enough. I had a P4 3.2 and also a graphics card that had hardware acceleration of 1080p wmv files.
When playing back normal 1080p video files (xvid), the framerate was low at about 5 fps. When playing 1080p wmv files, the hardware acceleration from the GPU got it up to the 30 fps rate of the video file.
That's also the reason why the I9100 can play back 1080p with no issues. The Exynos chipset has hardware acceleration of the scaling of 1080p to the screen resolution. Tegra2 on the other hand does not have this, so it struggles with 1080p videos.

That's more than powerful enough. I played back 1080p AVC video perfectly on an old media box running a craptacular P4 @ 2.4GHz or somewhere there.
Your graphics card needs to be able to decode it, also try another decoder/codec pack meant for HD video. CCCP is ok, I swear by CoreAVC. It's not free, but you can find 'free' copies floating around google, try and buy. It's worth it if you're on a crappy computer and don't want to upgrade your hardware.
I've tried playback of 1080p video from the phone and it's fine. Buttery smooth. Most likely a problem with your computer then.

Is the file copied from the phone to the pc or are you trying to run it from the phone attached as mass storage? Could be the usb port being slow to transfer if this is the case. Maybe try downloading a test MP4 from the web and see if it is ok?

Sleepycat3 said:
Haha, no way. That is not powerful enough. I had a P4 3.2 and also a graphics card that had hardware acceleration of 1080p wmv files.
When playing back normal 1080p video files (xvid), the framerate was low at about 5 fps. When playing 1080p wmv files, the hardware acceleration from the GPU got it up to the 30 fps rate of the video file.
That's also the reason why the I9100 can play back 1080p with no issues. The Exynos chipset has hardware acceleration of the scaling of 1080p to the screen resolution. Tegra2 on the other hand does not have this, so it struggles with 1080p videos.
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rubbish, a pc of that spec will tear it to bits with the correct codecs, my ageing P4 with onboard intel graphics runs it smooth at work, like i said this is not PC spec issue, I suspect we are not being given all the relevant info here from the OP, we are missing some vital information which will ultimately turn out to be the cause.

Play 1080p Video?

I've tried MX player, rock player and the default video player to playback my 1080p videos but they all still lag and play slowly. All videos are in mp4. Are there any apps out there that would be able to do this?
Cheers

try out dice player, and overclock, if ur tf is rooted, should be able to play smoothly. anyway I believe there are threads ard discussing this, please go do a search for them.

darkstar09 said:
I've tried MX player, rock player and the default video player to playback my 1080p videos but they all still lag and play slowly. All videos are in mp4. Are there any apps out there that would be able to do this?
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Dice player is the best by far IMO, even gets rid of the home and back buttons illuminating.
It plays mkv files and I have files over 3gb which also play without any problems.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice&hl=en

Just for fun I searched this forum for "1080p" in the thread title only. This doesn't include all the other random ways someone has asked this exact same question at least 100 other times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251784&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051629&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199268&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192865&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121428&highlight=1080p
And there are more. I believe on of the rules of xda is to search first and I know it asks if you have searched for existing threads before you start a new one. Granted it searches all of xda to show you threads but the search button is easily found and searches a specific forum.
This is the first rule of xda
1. Search before posting.
I guarantee this has been asked and answered many times this week alone

not sure about 1080p that's going to be hit and miss especially if you have big file sizes.
I'm using revolver 3.2 at 1.3 and can confirm 720p playback with file sizes of 3 gig or so play perfectly with dice player.

This can play back 1080P files just fine....DEPENDING on the bitrate. It's a limitation of Tegra 2. If the bitrate is high, it will have problems. Just like 720P files with really high bitrates have the same limitations.
Honestly, why does it matter? If you're outputting through HDMI to watch things, then I can kinda understand, but the screen itself only supports 720P. Why bother with 1080P?

Just out of curiosity, does overclocking improve video playback?

darkhawkff said:
This can play back 1080P files just fine....DEPENDING on the bitrate. It's a limitation of Tegra 2. If the bitrate is high, it will have problems. Just like 720P files with really high bitrates have the same limitations.
Honestly, why does it matter? If you're outputting through HDMI to watch things, then I can kinda understand, but the screen itself only supports 720P. Why bother with 1080P?
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Bitrate, uh?
How much is "really high"? 10mbps? 16mbps? and why the lower the resolution the higher the bitrate it can handle, if I got your post right?
Nah. I have a 1080p file, 16mbps. Plays well without overclock. I have another 1080p file, 10mbps, dosen't play well even at 1.6ghz. 720p file, still 10mbps, needs overclock (even 1.2ghz is enough). The difference between them? the kind of encoding. All this with Diceplayer, not the horrid Rockplayer, mind you.

Diceplayer works on most of my DSLR footage 1080 with 40-60datarate

AlexTheStampede said:
Bitrate, uh?
How much is "really high"? 10mbps? 16mbps? and why the lower the resolution the higher the bitrate it can handle, if I got your post right?
Nah. I have a 1080p file, 16mbps. Plays well without overclock. I have another 1080p file, 10mbps, dosen't play well even at 1.6ghz. 720p file, still 10mbps, needs overclock (even 1.2ghz is enough). The difference between them? the kind of encoding. All this with Diceplayer, not the horrid Rockplayer, mind you.
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I'm struggling with 720p encoded @L4. 1.. Mostly all L3. 1 plays nice in diceplayer.
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If I remember correctly, movies encoded in High Profile will not play back well. Main Profile is the best this machine can handle. I believe it's a Tegra 2 limitation in general.

CptJimmy said:
If I remember correctly, movies encoded in High Profile will not play back well. Main Profile is the best this machine can handle. I believe it's a Tegra 2 limitation in general.
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Well, high L3. 1 is ok with some oc.
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hairyonion said:
not sure about 1080p that's going to be hit and miss especially if you have big file sizes.
I'm using revolver 3.2 at 1.3 and can confirm 720p playback with file sizes of 3 gig or so play perfectly with dice player.
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Let me comment on that:
LOL
Without OC, DICE player (and transformer itself) can only play Level3.1 content and it will slideshow on 99% of internet standard (scene) releases. If you think 'plays perfectly', then you're brain and eyesight damaged.
With OC, you can play play simple 720p content (think WebDL releases) with decent quality (though they will still drop frames in more complex scenes), but more complex releases (think blueray rips) will drop frames on most scenes and slideshow totally on more complex ones.
You would have to be really lucky to find a 1080p movie that will play. Many won't open at all, rest will be dropping frames constantly. When ASUS said that 3.1 update make 1080p playback possible, by playback they meant rendering first frame of the movie.

Dice player is the best
go for it

As mentioned on the other posts about HD playback, the hardware decode of 720p or 1080p H264 with AAC is currently broken in 3.2. Worked fine in 3.1, then got broke. Asus are aware of it and have promised a fix.
If you have such files (e.g. BBC iPlayer HD content) then no player will be able to play them back smoothly as software decode simply can't handle them. Only option is to either transcode or downgrade to HC3.1 to get hardware decode back.
Let's hope the fix is not far off now.

bro just play 720p. trust me you THINK you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10' screen but you cant......unless your not human

uploder said:
bro just play 720p. trust me you THINK you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10' screen but you cant......unless your not human
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Well, there cannot possibly exist a difference between displaying 720p and 1080p on a 1280x800 screen, since all 1080p content would be scaled down to 720p. Where 1080p would actually matter is if you often connect to a big monitor or HDTV that is capable of 1080p, such as I do on a regular basis for when I want to watch movies without having to boot up my desktop computer. There is definitely a noticeable difference between 720p videos I've converted with Handbrake and the actual 1080p Blu ray movies, but it's not really a big deal for me.
My suggestion for those truly concerned about high quality 1080p playback would be to buy a netbook equipped with a Nvidia ION or comparable video chipset, as I have had no issues playing Blu ray from my own ION-equipped nettop.

yeah my MX player would lag like crazy. Dice is the way to go!

earlyberd said:
Well, there cannot possibly exist a difference between displaying 720p and 1080p on a 1280x800 screen, since all 1080p content would be scaled down to 720p. Where 1080p would actually matter is if you often connect to a big monitor or HDTV that is capable of 1080p, such as I do on a regular basis for when I want to watch movies without having to boot up my desktop computer...........
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ah i see. then YES. there would definitely be a difference. I just assumed you were watching directly on the TF. my mistake

[Q] Video playback on new Atom hybrids - OK or Tegra 2 syndrome?

As movies/films is one of the main tasks this device will have in my possession I want to make sure I will not run into disappointment owners of first Tegra 2 tablets run into.
So... Atom + this SGX... mkv 720p - OK?
How about BR rips in 1080p?
I got some clips (Full HD) from may handycam in m2ts format - will they work?

It's been a week or two since I tried. I remember being pretty disappointed with 1080p and some 720p videos. I'll load a few videos with VLC, Zoom, and KMPlayer and see how well it plays.
Off hand what I remember is mostly disappointment with 1080p videos, those that played, seemed to be dropping frames and have a slight jittery feel to them. Other higher bit rate videos would pixelate during some scenes.
I have some 720p MKV Anime subs and I think the mostly played okay, but might have had some minor frame dropping. I'll have to check them out again, my memory is a little faded now. I was disappointed, but it's not Tegra 2 bad, but not Tegra 3 good either.

I have a samsung ativ with atom.1080p mkv even at 40mps play very good. All you need is enabling dxva with mpc and haali media splitter or lava filters. Then the cpu will not go above 30-40%
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Just saw new video and audio drivers today for the 500T. Just installed those, so really curious now if there is going to be some improvement when I test tonight.

Ugh, new video drivers didn't help. In fact it has gotten worse, not much. But in the high bit rate 1080p video I had tested before, I'm seeing it freeze up (it didn't do that before) and pixelate in more scenes. And the 720p MKV videos, the audio is slightly out of sync.
I think it's a mix between drivers and hardware. I dunno of the SGX545 is up to the task of doing 1080p or 720p MKVs smoothly.

If you guys remember video files used as test for Tegra 2 devices we were talking about I am just uploading them to my Dropbox.
Once they are that I will share the link so you can test your Atom W8 devices and report back.
OK?
Not to mention quite different opinion between you guys (gaetanolip & Ravynmagi)

galtom said:
If you guys remember video files used as test for Tegra 2 devices we were talking about I am just uploading them to my Dropbox.
Once they are that I will share the link so you can test your Atom W8 devices and report back.
OK?
Not to mention quite different opinion between you guys (gaetanolip & Ravynmagi)
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Mine is not an opinion. In oorder to play 1080p level 4.1 at 40 mbs you have to enable hardware acceleration. I just did explain how , if you guys are not capable to do so please do not complain how new atom is not enough to play 1080p (h264)videos because new atom fully CAN.
This is the proof ( older atom but same gpu even at lower mhz than my ativ ). I followed the guide ( even if I used newer lav splitters instead of haali media splitters )
http://www.eeepc.it/video-guida-filmati-1080p-eee-pc-cedar-trail/
Test video http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/
I can easily play birds 40 mbs , very high bitrate
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I do not have device just yet
I want to make sure it will play most or all popular video formats.
I will give you Dropbox link as soon as I get home
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Try those samples: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/axjlfeeqd6t7vfl/n5JS9stbNF
And let us know how is it handling them...

mate, GPU hardware acceleration will play it, ive had some insanely high bit rate videos playing on much older hardware, but as has already been mentioned you need to have a player that supports DXVA 1/2. MPC-HC will do it just fine, personally I use shark007 codecs that gets WMP doing the same thing (I prefer that because it allows me to use WMC to play videos as well)

On my old PC with Windows 8 but higher power than Atom I got k-lite pack of codecs and I am using WMP.
Does it mean that for W8 I should be using different (better?) codec pack like those Shark007 you mentioned?
Perhaps I would put less strain on my current HW?
Did I get it right?

look at it this way, if you try play a high bit rate HD video and your CPU usage is a sustained 80-100% then your not using hardware acceleration. Its been a while since I used k-lite as from my experience in the past it was full of crap you simply didn't need, Shark007 is about as lean and efficient as you can get. if you use MPC-HC you should see DVXA at the bottom left corner of the screen when in window mode.
if you are using hardware acceleration then id expect CPU usage to be around 5-20%
back in the day a 3Ghz P4 wasn't able to play high bit rate HD content by its self without dropping frames, THAT is what GPU hardware acceleration can bring
if you are going to use Shark make sure you delete ALL codecs you've installed before attempting to install it, most codec issues are conflicts

[Q] Can Galaxy S4 handle 10-bit 720p video smootly ? ?

I watch a lot of animes, and many animes these days are encoded using 10-bit H.264 (Hi10P).
720p 10-bit is very laggy on my galaxy S3 when using MX player. Can someone test it on galaxy S4 and tell me if it handles ? Also, please use mx player which can be downloaded for free from google play
Also, keep in mind the S4 sold in my country is GT-I9500 which uses samsung exynos processor

Did you try with VLC ?? (I don't know if it runs better with VLC, just asking)

VLC uses the same decoding libs and the performance wouldn't be much better.
10bit can only be decoded in software right now so you simply need more CPU power (and the GS4 might have enough power).
I'm quite curious if 720p 10bit can be decoded myself.

I'm curious about this as well, apparently S4 uses the same GPU as iPhone 5 which plays 10 bit videos flawlessly with no lag at all. Can anyone confirm about this?

Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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roninep said:
Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want

I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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soraxd said:
I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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good to know that, is it smooth? :laugh:
Can you check whether 720p is still out of sync

silversun92 said:
Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.

roninep said:
Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer

silversun92 said:
Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.

roninep said:
I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
silversun92 said:
Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/

maroon1 said:
Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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I did run it with MX Player first. If you go back a couple posts I used that first for silversun92. You are right and it ran very well. I did have to change it to S/W, but after that it worked without any problems. Silversun92 asked me about the stock player, so I tried that next and it didnt work. Sound did but video did not. Can anything correct that?
FWIW, I also ran it with BSPlayer (which I like and use). It seemed to run slightly jittery, but it automatically showed subtitles which MX didnt when I ran it. That might just be a setting issue though. Regardless, I think MX ran better than BS.
Is there anything else that you all need tested ?

anyone know how to get DTS video to work on S4? I have 1080p mkv videos with DTS audio, but it wont work at S4 video player.. there is no sound

@ben3003
DTS only works in H/W+ mode afaik. (Testing with MX Player) on S4 this is a ARMv7 Neon FFMPEG custom distribution example
I find that the experience for 720p 10bit playback is not yet satisfactory. But the device may be capable of more due to its unique hardware support (HEVC). I think we can expect improvements to playback in future.
As @maroon1 mentioned Archos Player is almost satisfactory experience with 720p hi10p playback (I believe this is software rendering) however it lacks the Styled subtitle support that I have grown to love MX Player for. I can get over this lol but would be nice to have in future.

So you guys disagree on the results....
So, @roninep you say that 720p 10-bit mkvs played smoothly with MX Player on your S4, but @sh4z you say it wasn't satisfactory? Would both of you mind posting a short ~5 minute video clip of your results for comparison please?
I'm debating on buying an S4, since I watch a lot of video on my phone. Currently I have to manually re-encode (with handbrake) all my videos and anime from 10-bit to 8-bit before I put them on my phone, so a phone that plays 10-bit and saves me this extra step would be great!
Thank you for confirming!!
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I made two videos to compare MX Player and Archos Player on GT-I9505 S4.
I pretty much agree with @maroon1, I think Archos is the smoothest so far out of the players I've tried. MX Player has better subtitle support so If it's not 10bit I would use that.
Same video is used no special optimizations default settings. Streaming over WiFi G. (Plenty of bandwidth for 720p) @roninep might have a GT-I9500... Haven't tested MX Player on that yet. Will give it a go tomorrow. Maybe its okay with that device.
MX Player
https://vimeo.com/67198798
Archos Player
https://vimeo.com/67198799
Apologies in advance these videos are a bit blurry at some points as they were taken by my Galaxy S GT-I9000. It doesn't know what to focus on lol. Anyway the frame rate I think is visible enough in each example (I think that's what is important right ?)
Some other 720p 10bit mkv Tests (In Reverse Order *worst first*)
1. Mobo Video Player constantly played intrusive ad's and crashed when attempting to playback,dumped that like a **** ...
2. VLC Does not play properly v.choppy got about 3 frames out of it (It's beta after all and may kill your kittens (lol wtf vlc thats the warning you get when running the first time )) audio came through okay.
3. QQ Player was worse than Mobo Player laggy video and out of sync audio, did not properly understand styled subtitles and output incorrectly.
4. VPlayer - Constantly playing catch-up (video; fast,slow,fast,slow)- Subtitles displaying correctly at beginning but then later disappeared
5. MoboPlayer (Audio playback no video on H/W) Software playback was good but artifacting (think twice compressed jpeg, probably just not proper 10bit support) faster than MX but archos is better(faster no artifacts), subs displayed correctly but not styled
Any others people have tried that are good let us know! its useful. Cheers :good:

Thank you @sh4z for posting the videos! And you're right, framerate was what I was wondering about! And coincidentally, I'm currently using an I9000, want to upgrade to the I9500. And yeah, I currently use MX Player for everything, including those animes I convert from 10 to 8 bit.
Before I forget and go on, @sh4z how did you get the fps to show in the topright corner on MX Player? I couldn't find it as a menu option in MX Player...
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So it seems that MX Player framerate is watchable, but when compared to Archos player, Archos is much more enjoyable. Hopefully MX Player's dev will be able to improve his codec! (with MX Player having much better .ass subtitle support)
It's good that you pointed out you tested on the I9505, I had forgotten about the different chipsets. From a few places I read around, I've heard rumours that perhaps the I9500 with its Exynos 5 Cortex A15 will perform much better than the I9505's Qualcomm Krait 300.
Just looking at their comparison on Wikipedia's page for the Krait CPU, it appears (at least on the surface) that the I9500's Exynos 5 should do better? Hope we find out later!
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Hopefully, we will soon get an android device + app combination that rivals the iPhone 5 in terms of playing 10 bit videos.
For reference: From what was said on Animesuki's forum thread "iPhone 5 and 10-bit MKVs" , there's a video that proves that iPhone 5 with "HD MKV Player" app can easily handle 10 bit videos.
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I had tested some of those other players on my I9000 too, and I agree that MoboPlayer probably performs best out of them, in terms of framerate. Like you said, it's too bad that it artifacts on colours and doesn't fully support .ass styling.
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From his signature, I'd caution a guess that @roninep has the North American I9505 like you do, so no Exynos core. If anyone else here has an I9500 would you mind testing this out please? Thanks in advance!

I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.

psycovirus said:
I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
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@psycovirus thanks for testing! Would you say the performance was about the same or better than the video sh4z posted with MX Player on I9505?
And yeah, it's unfortunate but expected that the CPU would heat up since it's all software decoding.... I don't think any consumer hardware will get hardware accelerated h.264 hi10p, especially with the release of h.265 "HEVC".

10-bit video hardware decoding

Since I don't think it's been mentioned in any reviews or anything yet, unfortunately the Z1 Compact doesn't support hardware decoding of 10-bit colour video, not even at 720p.
That being said, the snapdragon 800 is thankfully just about fast enough to play 720p 10-bit with styled subtitles smoothly through software decoding. 1080p is unwatchable (major frame drops).
Hopefully this helps someone researching the phone for anime watching purposes (it is sad that so many fansub groups have turned to this colour format)

Darkimmortal said:
Since I don't think it's been mentioned in any reviews or anything yet, unfortunately the Z1 Compact doesn't support hardware decoding of 10-bit colour video, not even at 720p.
That being said, the snapdragon 800 is thankfully just about fast enough to play 720p 10-bit with styled subtitles smoothly through software decoding. 1080p is unwatchable (major frame drops).
Hopefully this helps someone researching the phone for anime watching purposes (it is sad that so many fansub groups have turned to this colour format)
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I have tried several hi10 720p anime vids, using bsplayer with an option "hardware decoding for hi10" enabled and had no problems playing any of them. Not sure if it was really software decoder or not, but in any case vids played perfectly (no frame drops, full color, no problem with sound)

ziprar said:
I have tried several hi10 720p anime vids, using bsplayer with an option "hardware decoding for hi10" enabled and had no problems playing any of them. Not sure if it was really software decoder or not, but in any case vids played perfectly (no frame drops, full color, no problem with sound)
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Yep 720p does play perfectly, as the cpu is fast enough.
Using MX Player you can see that it fails to play with hardware and reverts to software decoding

Screen is 720p after all. No point of 1080p playing in terms of picture quality.

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Screen is 720p after all. No point of 1080p playing in terms of picture quality.
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Maybe because you can hook it to 1080p monitor using mhl? I see no point using the phone with monitor if you also have desktop/laptop nearby though.
How about the subtitle? Is it easy to read it for prolonged time? I try to watch on my xperia ray before, but I guess 3.3 inch display is really too small to watch it comfortably.

A phone is never as good as PC, blu-ray players and such in terms of picture quality when viewing movies at home. I see no point in plugging to external monitor for that.
HDMI is used to show your pictures and videos taken by phone camera to your family.
EDIT: Oh wait yeah, plugging it on hotel TV and using it as a media player is a good use indeed. But 720p is good enough for hotel TV's.
And let's not forget it can play 1080p MKV movies but only not those hardcore quality animes.

Just to clarify the focus isn't really on the fact that it can't play 1080p 10-bit, but the fact that it has to use software decoding for 720p 10-bit. The battery drain is going to be quite significant to say the least, even if the playback quality is perfect (which it is).
For perspective, a snapdragon 600 can't handle software decoding of 720p 10-bit, so it's very cpu intensive

I'm glad that I'm already fine with just ripping videos from streaming links hahaha! And oh I can watch animes with subtitles fine on my Nokia n95 years ago... I'm pretty sure I can live with Xperia Z1 Compact's screen.