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I fail to understand why the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 performs so horribly compared to my Galaxy Nexus even when the GNex is in completely stock and unrooted/modified form.
My Tab 2 suffers so much graphical stuttering, lag, etc that I can't even stand using it. Some of the initial custom ROM's (Clean ROM and InfectedROM) help with this but it's still so uncomfortable to use!
Does Samsung's additions to Android really suck that bad?
Sorry if this sounds too much like a rant. I just really wasn't expecting such poor performance when seeing the specs. I wasn't expecting Tegra3 performance but damn, I just need things to stop hiccuping and stuttering all over the place.
Yes there Addons do suck up a lot of performance. I can tell when I switch roms.
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I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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The stock rom is not optimized at all. The g nexus (which I also have) was built to run andriod 4.0. Thing will get better as time goes on but the roms available for the 10" are not as good as that available for the 7".
What this thing needs is some Franco love. LOL
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SirRhor said:
I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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I have a 7 2 and on the stock touchwiz it is very sluggish compared to a lot of other tabs. Its a lot better when you debloat or run cm9 or aokp. Stock is just to bulky with to many background processes. My opinion if your going to stay stock return it if you think its to slow because it won't get better.
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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As soon as one CM9/AOKP pops up you'll have a dozen to choose from a week later. Patience!
I agree debloating the stock Rom just doesn't help with the performance. Im just gonna be patient and wait for a well developed Rom. Not saying the current custom roms are bad. Much love to all devs that work there ass off
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
cheatman said:
The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
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I ended up trying your ROM even though I have a 5113 and it is, by far, the best running of the 3. I can accept a few extra useless menu options and a "you don't have a cell phone signal" icon for the added smoothness.
Thanks for your work!
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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I can definitely see a huge difference it terms of smoothness. You should probably delete some apps you don't need or do a factory wipe.
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I mirror your experience, however am still hopeful that when Sprint releases the actual files, things will be better. I haven't experienced JB on any of the newer devices, but the reports are good. Life is all about expectations ... guess we should be thankful that we're even receiving the updates.
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Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
You still should keep in mind that we're on a 2 year old device... yeah yeah the original Nexus S came out in Dec 2010... not quite 2 years, but it's based off of tech that debuted in the original Galaxy S in the summer of that year. It's great hardware, but it's expected that we'll have a tough time dealing with newer OS' ... quite frankly I've considered going back to a stripped down CM7 just because of the smoothness compared to ICS (and JB) ... we're just running into serious RAM limitations on this device.
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I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Try different kernels as well with the rom.
I definitely see a difference,
I have no more lag at all with what i used to before.
I think, the UI can be a bit smoother, but multitasking and opening/closing apps works smoooooth!
Much faster and smoother than ICS.
Running Jelly Belly 1.5.1
Don't expect 2 much from old device like nexus s.
Google is getting sued for project butter being "too smooth" by apple because apple claimed smoothness was patented.
Kidding,
But, I could see it happening.
JB is 3 steps ahead of any other OS :x
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
I just don't like the fact that it keeps the phone awake over night. You ask me jellybean trying to do too much in the background. Last night I turned off 3g. When I woke up someone sent me a mms at 12am. When I check the battery stats it kept my phone awake trying to download a mms without data on. Not to smart
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I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Dialer slow, opening Apps in Settings freaking slow, chrome slow...
JB gave new life to my NS, definitely the smoothest it has ever been, and I don't feel the need to OC. As I do with all phones/roms, all transitions and animations are turned off, including the third one added with JB. Also using Nova launcher, but am going to try Apex again now that they updated it with JB base.
And the biggest thing I noticed is how quickly the recents come up now, it's instant. I honestly didn't think that would be possible on the NS.
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I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Pick up the Galaxy Nexus and you'll see the difference much clearer. NS is just plain old.
Why don't you try setting animations to 0.5?
Nexus S (GMS i9020a)
Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Deadline)
Live OC - 100 (400/800)
BLX - 98 (Inverted Apps)
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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smoka206 said:
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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I'm not bashing at all, love jelly bean.
Just mentioned where is slow.
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FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
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I didn't know I was in school & you where an English teacher. I think you need an eye exam if you can't see or feel that jellybean is faster than ICS.
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I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Chrome is a ram hog. Add in all the other processes eating ram, and you'll see why it's laggy.
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Seriously, it's like treacle! I'm about ready to root and install gingerbread.
Dialler takes forever to come up, when I tap the search button it takes many seconds for the keyboard to appear.
No-one else seems to mention this problem?
I have very few apps installed, and certainly no bloatware like task killers, etc.
No, you aren't the only one. Our phone is just a bit too old. All we can do now is bear with it until we upgrade.
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Jelly bean is slow as **** for me. I guess most of the people just can't notice that jb's animations and reaction time when touching the screen is just delayed.
I've been frustrated with my nexus not acting fast untill i tried one combination. I'm i9023 user and this combo is just perfect for my phone. No input lag whatsoever, no animation lag, everything is just fast and instantly responsive. Give it a try and tell me what you think.
Cm9.1 stable:
http://get.cm/get/3F6
Air kernel 4.4:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfonudtw9ngerwf/Air_Kernel_v4.4_65fps+blue.zip
Gapps:
http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip
Use it with apex launcher, because trebuchet may lag when opening app drawer. To avoid dialler lag, i suggest using exdialer, it's downloadable from the market.
Please try that and let me know if I'm the only one who sees the difference
Even the keyboard is just faster than on jb. Scrolling, switching between windows, statusbar is more responsive. Try and tell me what you think.
Sometime I wonder how come poeple say jelly bean is faster than ics. First impressions are good, but after very short time of usage jelly bean is full of slow ****. Every rom based on jb is just slower than this combo.
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Nope. No problems here. Phone is fast and stable, although a little struggling with battery life, but like I said before somewhere in these forums, life is full of tradeoffs.
Yes this thing is slow. Its actually kept me from being involved with the phone. I don't add different ROMs or anything anymore because they all feel to heavy for this phone.
I'm just counting down the days until the next Nexus is released.
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"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.
Xperia ROM
Hi,
For all of you who are not happy with the speed of Nexus S, try using this rom -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827071&highlight=xperia
I can assure it is definitely much faster than the stock ICS or jellybean ROMs. If you have been using the stock Nexus S ROMS, you will see noticeable difference in the colours. They are much better on this Xperia ROM and does not have that yellow shade. I love the ROM and believe me I have tried almost every ROM available on XDA for for Nexus S.
Though there are 2 issues, for which I haven't found any solution, it blocks the calls coming from unknown numbers and you do not even see a missed call. And you can't use the default screen locks. But apart from these, the ROM is rock solid, never crashes or hangs, everything works fine and it is ultra smooth.
If you think your phone is running slow, I highly recommend this ROM. Everyone should give this ROM at least a try.
Let me know if I helped by clicking Thanks
Mines seems fast but battery life is terrible getting a galaxy nexus next week
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I don't really notice a difference speedwise between ICS and JB. They are both a little slower than GB was, but not unbearable. The added features of ICS/JB are well worth it IMO.
Overclocking a little bit can help, although it can hurt battery performance a bit.
muldy said:
"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.
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Agreed. Current combo keeps up with wife's combo. Don't know what the OP is talking about. See sig for both setups.
I agree with jellybean being kinda slow. However, i dont know if it's just the rom's were installing on our device, cause i kinda remember stock JB being pretty fluid which is kinda making wanna go back to stock again
GB was stale, solid, and best battery life.
I miss having a flashlight app that worked and better battery life.
ICS and JB have been ok up until I started having power button issues last week.
JRO03L update seems to have fixed the majority of freezes, crashes, and power button issue.
After the reality has set in, I would have stick with GB
no problems here. aokp jb build 2 and beladus marmite 4.4 kernel combo is running smooth on mine.
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Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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Are you implying that every end-user of android phones should learn to root or install custom roms/kernel to get a DECENT experience? While I'm content to see Google supporting a device almost 2 years after its release (Apple does that as well btw), I'm kind of feeling disgusted about the overall user experience, laggyness, crashes, random reboots and decreased battery life. I wish Google released a FINISHED product/operating system and not leave its customers in a sort of beta-testing fog.
I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
And for the others.. like the previous post..
Jump on the apple train. Yes, There os is stable... but stale
Dive in!
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Memory management is the problem...
I think the problem has to do with the way memory is managed in ICS/JB... I still can't find found a recent ROM that will keep the launcher in memory no matter what. That's terrible for user experience! None of the task or memory manager apps in the Google Play Store seem to help either.
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slow??? my NS is lightning fast! with slim bean ROM and bedalus kernel
DMardroid said:
I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
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^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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Highway 55 said:
^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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Hey people!
This afternoon I got bored so I decided to find myself the best ROM and to learn so Nexus S history. I've tried everything so I'll just go thru from 2.3 to 4.2. Not just performance wise but with design, smoothness and speed. Hope It'll be useful I had fun doing it! Let me clear that I put the ROMs I liked the most in each Android version! Except Jelly Bean 4.1. In every version I'll just start with raw numbers in apps and games then UI, browsing and usability along with design. I'll post Antutu scores in a zip file at the end of the post.
Let's kick off with Gingerbread then. I'm putting Pure Bionic from Team Whiskey helped by Morfic's Trinity kernel at 1,32 ghz.
Antutu score: 4945 (OMG)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 47
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 52
UI speed and design: Very simple nothing fancy just how I remembered. But the phone is damn responsive. Instant navigating, no lag at all but I just can't feel the smootness of 4.x.
Browser experince: Very fast loading time but laggy scrolling as expected. Without hardware acceleration It's just a half armed goliath.
Overall, Gingerbread (with Bionix) is lighning fast but you have to sacrifice everything fancy. If you're using your phone for gaming and you don't care about fancy UI then I'ts your best choice I assume. Or If you need a phone which reacts instantly that's it. I can't recommend it for every day use.
Let's go on the Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich. Bugless Beast latest release with trinity kernel at 1,32 ghz.
Antutu score: 3634 (maybe because of the GPU, I ran it several times, just could not get more than 3600 pts)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 32
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 39
UI speed and design: It feel like It's a hybrid between 4.1 and 2.3. I can feel It' smoother but definitely not as fast as GB. Let me clear that none of the roms felt laggy, I'm just compairing them. It looks way more better but.. for the cost of performance.
Browser experince: Finally HW ACC! Way more smoother than GB. Avarage loading time, not a big deal, but very much usable.
4.0 was a great start. New UI and a feel of smoothness, but can't really recommend it for anything. Maybe for someone who wants to play games which doesn't run on 4.1+ (lack of RAM even with high bigmem)
And here we are at Android 4.1 my personal best. I'm trying to stay objective. There'll be 2 ROMs. Pure CM10 and Rascarlo's Rasbeanjelly with alpha12 kernel clocked at 1,32 ghz. I'll take a closer look
CM10 scores:
B]Antutu score:[/B] 4337 (seemed real)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 44
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 47
Rasbeanjelly:
B]Antutu score:[/B] 4825 (big surprise!)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 47
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 51
UI speed and design: Much more cleaner design and animations. More smoothness thanks to Project Butter. Google somehow removed those annoying "ics lags".
Browser experince: Similar to ICS but with more "butter". Couple of more features and fixes.
Jelly Bean 4.1 is ready for everday use I really recommend it. Only dissapointment is the fact that we need high bigmem and it means we need to kiss goodbye 720 mkv playback. There is a lot of variation. Trinity kernel for gaming. Air kernel without big mem for multi media and last but not least Marmite for everyday use. If Morfic would implement voodoo in his kernel than our multi media and gaming kernel would be the same. (I'd really want that).
And here comes the latest Android 4.2. I can't really judge it because It's still under development and not ready yet. So keep in mind that. I used jellyshot v0.5 with marmite 7.0.4
B]Antutu score:[/B] 4059 (big surprise!)
Avarage FPS in Modern Combat 4: 35
Avarage FPS in Backstab HD: 42
UI speed and design: More user friendly more features. The lockscreen is a bit wierd. If your phone is locked they still can view your email and calender etc etc.. Love the new things.
UIBrowser experience: Very much similar to JB. Nothing really mentional.
As a said and can't really tell what's up with this yet. I say it's not yet comparable. Everything works as it should. New features new ideas and can be used as daily ROM.
At some points I felt myself dumb even writing it down, but I hope I helped someone to decide which Android version you need. I can't really help in deciding which custom rom to use since there are so many features and combinations! Thanks for reading and feel free to comment and share your thoughts.
PS: Sorry for my english, I'm a bit sleepy these days
Cheers, Zunex!
Very enjoyable review!
thanks mate . pleasure to read :X
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Good reviews... I only spent time with stock GB when I bought my phone for like a month, then I took the plunge and flashed AOSP ICS 4.0.1 and never looked back... I saw ICS as a huge upgrade from GB...
With that, I could never find a good 4.1 ROM that had great performance and battery... But BAKEDbean 6 was the closest thing for me... But still annoying as a daily driver... So much to the point where I was shopping for another phone...
4.2 on the other hand, really woke my phone up again... Currently running Rasbean with Matr1x 24.0 and wow, this phone has much better battery life (even with me always having 4G turned on) and performance is buttery smooth... I won't flash back to 4.1 even tho I miss the added features... This phone is usable again and I don't want to lose that!!
Just thought I'd plugin my experience with the different OS options...
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Thank you guys!
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Good reviews... I only spent time with stock GB when I bought my phone for like a month, then I took the plunge and flashed AOSP ICS 4.0.1 and never looked back... I saw ICS as a huge upgrade from GB...
With that, I could never find a good 4.1 ROM that had great performance and battery... But BAKEDbean 6 was the closest thing for me... But still annoying as a daily driver... So much to the point where I was shopping for another phone...
4.2 on the other hand, really woke my phone up again... Currently running Rasbean with Matr1x 24.0 and wow, this phone has much better battery life (even with me always having 4G turned on) and performance is buttery smooth... I won't flash back to 4.1 even tho I miss the added features... This phone is usable again and I don't want to lose that!!
Just thought I'd plugin my experience with the different OS options...
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Maybe it was only me then. Later I'll give 4.2 a shot again. You're using the ported 4.2 Rasbeanjelly?
Great Review
Great review bro very interesting and realistic, can i make a request to you?
Please give a shot to SlimBean 3.0, Please bro i really want to know your opinion about this ROM.
BTW Great post, i'll give 5stars to it:good:
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Thank you guys!
Maybe it was only me then. Later I'll give 4.2 a shot again. You're using the ported 4.2 Rasbeanjelly?
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Yes the one from rusty
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Looks like a lot of time has went into this post. Well done. And great reviews.
_hito_ said:
Great review bro very interesting and realistic, can i make a request to you?
Please give a shot to SlimBean 3.0, Please bro i really want to know your opinion about this ROM.
BTW Great post, i'll give 5stars to it:good:
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I'll do it tomorrow after I got home!
Very good read indeed!
I've just flashed BB6 to try out 4.1.2. Been on CNA before but kind of lost interest in it after lack of support it seems and also phone kind of got sluggish with time. I'm not one to try out experimental builds cause it's my only phone, so I think very hard before deciding! Wish I was more adventurous though as there are some great ROMs out there to play with!
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Very good read indeed!
I've just flashed BB6 to try out 4.1.2. Been on CNA before but kind of lost interest in it after lack of support it seems and also phone kind of got sluggish with time. I'm not one to try out experimental builds cause it's my only phone, so I think very hard before deciding! Wish I was more adventurous though as there are some great ROMs out there to play with!
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This is my only phone AND i dont have a computer so if i screw this up, im stuck lol... I think the only thing you should watch out for is ports for new OS like the initial builds of ICS and jb (4.1)... 4.2 seems to have some real solid and stable builds out... Only downside to these builds is they're being worked on almost daily and will see frequent updates... The updates aren't for fixing bugs but mostly just adding features/tweaks...
I just flashed Jelly shot 4.2.1... It was just released to the Nexus S 4G today and has been on Nexus S for a bit... Either way bugs are gone and its just about adding tweaks...
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This is my only phone AND i dont have a computer so if i screw this up, im stuck lol... I think the only thing you should watch out for is ports for new OS like the initial builds of ICS and jb (4.1)... 4.2 seems to have some real solid and stable builds out... Only downside to these builds is they're being worked on almost daily and will see frequent updates... The updates aren't for fixing bugs but mostly just adding features/tweaks...
I just flashed Jelly shot 4.2.1... It was just released to the Nexus S 4G today and has been on Nexus S for a bit... Either way bugs are gone and its just about adding tweaks...
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Wow! downloading all the stuff to the phone and not even backing up to a PC - Thumbs up to you pal!
awesome, thanks
gunner49 said:
Wow! downloading all the stuff to the phone and not even backing up to a PC - Thumbs up to you pal!
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Well i typically have the backups on my phone... There's not really goons be a time when you flash a ROM and your custom recovery gets wiped... So long as I have access to that, I'm good for backups
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Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
Ace42 said:
This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
If home button lags for you, try a different browser.
eksasol said:
It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
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You don't think the Galaxy S5 has good build quality? The Galaxy note was more of a square brick than a phone imo. I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
PenguinxEnjoi said:
Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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First off, going back to GB is just silly. Not only will GB been slower than kit kat, it is also ugly as hell in comparison, with half the functionality, plus many google apps need android 4.0+ to get their full functionality.
Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot.
PenguinxEnjoi said:
I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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My trusty old nexus s does not think so.
opssemnik said:
KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
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Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
Ps2: "Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot", thats the problem, when u use dalvik is slower then 4.3, u need to use ART to get more speed then u had on 4.3
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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
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Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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MameTozhio said:
Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
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Ace42 said:
Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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neither me dont know why, but yeah, i got better wifi speed(some ppl are complaining that) but lags on screen buttons, and on some simple things like recent apps menu. :/.
Lag is always relative to the individual person. Something that is considered smooth and "lag free" may seem the opposite to someone else.
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I'm using Eco mode on AK kernel and the buttons are near instant. My exact setup is:
AK 132KK + Gnome PKK
Deadline sch, 128
Intelli plug + intellidemand
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To everyone that has lag on Kitkat... have you by chance done a dirty flash?
It was behaving erratic for me too until I started with a clean slate. Backup your data, let the factory image flash do its job and voila, fast Kitkat.
PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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Why would you think it would be fast?
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I want my 2 minutes back. I can't believe this went further then the first post
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GB was not optimized for multi-core CPUs. Would run like garbage.
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