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On the fence...

Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence on getting this for my birthday (Aug 6th) but I have a few concerns. I have done a lot of research but am coming up empty on these questions.
1.) eBooks. I love Kindle and Nook and as a full time college student it is imperative that I have access to these two apps. Are they available for the Tab with Tablet optimization?
2.) Application support. I love Netflix and I see that that it is not supported or available yet (even with the APK). This is the same for Hulu (sorry it's ridiculous that you need to root and use a hacked flash that will more than likely be blocked like most exploits for Hulu), so is there any chance that these apps will be available by year's end for the Tab?
3.) I love gaming as well, how is that for the tab? (I'm talk along the lines of Nova, Assassin's Creed, Plant's vs Zombies, etc...) While I like Angry Birds, I'm not spending $500 for something I can play in my Chrome Browser.
4.) Is it really worth it?
I detest Apple with a passion and thus I am trying to avoid getting an iPad 2, but with a fully working Hulu app and Netflix app it's tempting though I would like a tablet that will compliment my future Samsung Attain (Galaxy S 2 on AT&T when launched...whenever that is).
Thank You

1) Sure. Ebooks are no problem. My favorite (Mantano reader) also says it's honeycomb ready - so it should work. The display is awesomely sharp and beats the Ipad in display quality.
2) Pretty sure they will update Netflix for tablets, they have an official version out:
https://market.android.com/search?q=netflix&so=1&c=apps
3) Yes you can play on it, but thats and "app question" and android can't beat the Ipad on that one. If optimized for tegra, it blows the Ipad stuff away. More polygons and still more FPS. Those chips are from Nvidia...
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-zone.html
There are also more games for it but not tegra optimized.
4) You need to know the answer to this one. Do you really need/want a tablet or are you just hyped?

There is a tablet optimized version of nook and kindle. Netflix said that 10.1 is going to to be the first honeycomb tablet to get it soon. Its a great tablet emulator work nice, and the game loft games that they have made available work great. There is also a decent number of terra 2 optimized games. Ipad has alot of useful apps for college, more games, and higher quality apps in general. Lack of a flash player on the ipad is extremely annoying, and the UI is really boring and restricted. Can't run emulators on the Ipad because apple blocks them. Browser on honeycomb is really buggy when it comes to text entry, ipad browser is smooth and stable, but honeycomb has more features.
I have both and I use m galaxy tab much more. Just wish app development would pick up
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1. Haven't looked at the Nook app, but the Kindle app looks nice on Honeycomb.
2. Hard to say what Netflix and Hulu are doing. Netflix has promised more device support. But we have no idea when. And it's been a long wait already.
3. Android gaming is decent. There seem to be enough good games that I don't think I would shy away from an Android tablet for this reason. But I do believe iPad does have an advantage here in numbers and sometimes quality. Plants vs Zombies for example is lower resolution on Android, while iPad has an HD version. Also Anandtech.com did find the Apple A5 to be a more powerful processor than the Tegra 2 (Tegra 2 is older afterall).
4. In my opinion, Android 3 isn't ready for me. I've decided to return mine and hope Android 4 is more stable later this year.
I don't care much for Apple either. I bought my first Apple device last year, the iPad 1 because there were no good 10 inch Android tablets (Viewsonic G-Tablet and upcoming Archos 101 were pretty low end running Android 2.2 and no Google apps). So I folded and got the iPad. Probably took me a good two weeks to get used to all the things I can't do with it, and I'm still kinda hating iTunes. But the iPad has excellent apps and lots of them (100,000 now tablet optimized). And it's really the apps I use it the most for anyway.
If I had some assurance from Samsung that they would update to Android 4.0 rather soon after it's release this fall, I might have been willing to live with the GT 10.1. But I'm still waiting for Samsung to release Gingerbread on my Galaxy S Vibrant, so I'm not confident.

This tablet is a lot better with opera mobile installed. no more typing lag while browsing .

1. Yes Kindle is tablet optimized so it is on par with ipad 2 IMHO it exceeds it. There is also a wide variety of Ebook readers that are tablet optimized in the market place.
2.Well i actually believe there should be a netflix app for this tab soon. Remember that netflix for android is really new and is still barley rolling out for phones! so a honeycomb app shouldn't be all too far fetched. Remember, netflix is really trying to expand its streaming services and in order to do that it needs to sink into as many devices as possible that's why you see a netflix logo on all sorts of devices, ps3,xbox,ipad,iphone,blu-ray players, there is not reason a tablet version should not be possible especially with the popularity of the ipad app.
3. Gaming well its hard to judge it really depends on what you want to play. Yes there are games on here that you listed like NOVA and plants and zombies, there are also console quality games that are tegra optimized that blows the ipad games out of the water only problem is there isn't all too many but with the awesome color screen the 10.1 has they sure look better. And lastly there is tons of emulators in the market place for all kind of consoles so your tab can run Ps1,n64,gba,gbc,snes games with no problem!
4. hmm well i bought it in all the hype but i always wanted a tablet for some reason and i bought it and can honestly say it is worth it at the moment but i feel its will be way more worth it later on lets say android icecream sandwhich! but if you can get the tab now go for it!

Emulators on the Nexus 10

To be honest, one of the major reasons I will be buying a tablet is for the games. For me it goes reading, games and movies... and not necessarily in that order. However, I have cruised the forums a bit and not found a truly definitive answer.
To put it frankly, I'm a RPG buff. From the SNES to the PS1, I love the genre. However, I am leery of the very high resolution of the N10 versus the look of the older games (SNES for example). I remember seeing a spreadsheet somewhere, where it listed Chrono Trigger as only appearing at 1/4th the size of the screen and crashing. This saddened me, and can potentially be a deal breaker in regards to me finalizing in buying this tablet.
Is there a way around what could be horrible looking old school games on such a high res display? And is there a way to get Chrono Trigger to work (its one of my favorites :< ).
Thank you for the help.

If a game only appears on 1/4 of the screen then that is the emulators fault, as is any crashing. Whatever emulator it was is most likely not designed to be run on a wide range of devices and resolutions and just needs to be updated for the Nexus 10's hardware.
I have been using MyBoy lately and while I havent tested explicitly tested Chrono Trigger, all games that normally work in the emulator work just the same on my phone, 7" tablet, or Nexus 10. The only difference is screen size.

I used to use anima online SNES. I am currently trying snes9xex. I set it to full screen instead of 16:9. Honestly doesn't look that bad. Here is secret of manager.
I will add I've beaten super metroid using the HDMI out of the tablet to my tc the entire play though. Also I beat super Mario RPG on the tablet strictly.
The games look great, full screen is a little stretched but its really not that bad. I personally was in the same situation as you when I wanted to buy it for those exact purposes. Once six axis updated to support android 4.2 I was loving every minute of it.
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I use SuperGSNES from the Google Play store and it works likes a champ!

Cervani said:
To be honest, one of the major reasons I will be buying a tablet is for the games. For me it goes reading, games and movies... and not necessarily in that order. However, I have cruised the forums a bit and not found a truly definitive answer.
To put it frankly, I'm a RPG buff. From the SNES to the PS1, I love the genre. However, I am leery of the very high resolution of the N10 versus the look of the older games (SNES for example). I remember seeing a spreadsheet somewhere, where it listed Chrono Trigger as only appearing at 1/4th the size of the screen and crashing. This saddened me, and can potentially be a deal breaker in regards to me finalizing in buying this tablet.
Is there a way around what could be horrible looking old school games on such a high res display? And is there a way to get Chrono Trigger to work (its one of my favorites :< ).
Thank you for the help.
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That's the Chrono Trigger port for Android that has problems on a lot of tablets. I played Chrono Trigger on a real emulator on the N10 and it worked just fine. Nearly done with the game and it looks absolutely great.

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That's the Chrono Trigger port for Android that has problems on a lot of tablets. I played Chrono Trigger on a real emulator on the N10 and it worked just fine. Nearly done with the game and it looks absolutely great.
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How to fix Chrono Trigger on the Nexus 10:
Turn on game. Press home button. On home screen rotate 180 degrees to the other landscape side.
Then turn off auto-rotate. Force close the game through the task manager and turn the game on again.

Thanks guys . You helped me solidify my choice in purchasing this tablet, along with all the video reviews and posts I've watched on here. Hopefully you'll see me on it soon!

Ppsspp emulator settings

Has anyone else tried the ppsspp emulator? I loaded Wipeout Pure and after changing a few setting, the best I get is a slightly slow version with no sound and frame skipping. That was the most playable I could get it. When I first loaded it it was total slow motion. Wipeout is a confirmed working game for this emu so I'm interested to see what settings combos people may have found that work for the OUYA.
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Visegrad said:
Has anyone else tried the ppsspp emulator? I loaded Wipeout Pure and after changing a few setting, the best I get is a slightly slow version with no sound and frame skipping. That was the most playable I could get it. When I first loaded it it was total slow motion. Wipeout is a confirmed working game for this emu so I'm interested to see what settings combos people may have found that work for the OUYA.
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I'm kind of wondering this myself. Every game I try with it runs super slow.

I wouldn't expect PPSSPP to run smoothly on Mobile processors anytime soon if at all
Getting decent performance is still a challenge for PC users as the emulator is still in its early stages

DrROBschiz said:
I wouldn't expect PPSSPP to run smoothly on Mobile processors anytime soon if at all
Getting decent performance is still a challenge for PC users as the emulator is still in its early stages
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^ This.
PPSSPP is cool, but little more than a proof of concept at this point. It's hardly playable on any platform.

DrROBschiz said:
I wouldn't expect PPSSPP to run smoothly on Mobile processors anytime soon if at all
Getting decent performance is still a challenge for PC users as the emulator is still in its early stages
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sonofskywalker3 said:
^ This.
PPSSPP is cool, but little more than a proof of concept at this point. It's hardly playable on any platform.
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Thanks folks. I hope to some day be able to run wild with some WipeOut. I'll keep an eye on the devs progress and repost if we see some headway in the future.
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Visegrad said:
Has anyone else tried the ppsspp emulator? I loaded Wipeout Pure and after changing a few setting, the best I get is a slightly slow version with no sound and frame skipping. That was the most playable I could get it. When I first loaded it it was total slow motion. Wipeout is a confirmed working game for this emu so I'm interested to see what settings combos people may have found that work for the OUYA.
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Was messing around with this app last night. No luck getting any games to run smoothly, however I do see some potential. Tried both god of war games and they were very choppy. Only the movies within the game played fine. Dragonball Budokai ran pretty decent but the sound was off. Burnout had no music and was very choppy. Call of Duty starts but than goes to a black screen. You can hear the music but nothing else.
Tweaked the settings quit a bit but just couldn't get any to play right. Hopefully, they can get this up and running on the Ouya.

Not all games play slow. Here is a list so far that play fine (smooth with sound) on my Excite 7.7, TF300, Nook HD+ and S4.
Burnout Dominator
Guilty Gear Judgment
Hotshots Open Tee
Namcom Battle Museum
Lumins 1 (not 2)
Star Soldier
Street Fighter Alpha 3 remix
Guilty Gear XX
Megaman Powerup
Metal Slug XX
Blaz Blue (both games)
Need for Speed Carbon
NeoGeo Shooter (it is a shootemup with different NeoGeo characters)
Full Auto 2
I actually own the PSP games to compare to, except NeoGeo shooter. For some reason, it would not work on my PSP when I tried it out and local Disc Replay gamestore.
More games do not work than do, but I was impressed enough to contribute. There are some others that work, but I have most on my tablets and only a few on my S4- going by memory of what does.

The forums seem to have a thread going for hints on how to improve speeds: http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=5236
Some games need Buffered Rendering.
Some games have no sound unless you download the unofficial atrac3 library from within the app.
The topic started on May, when the version in the stores was 0.8.1. Checked for updates since then? Last version in the store is 0.9.1, and last version on git is 0.9.1.2xx.

I've noticed a huge speed boost from setting the frame buffer to the gpu, some games are actually playable although the full 3d ones are still at about 65%. Hopefully the official ouya release will work better.

I haven't tried it on my OUYA, but one of my friends said using a PSP emulator and connecting his OUYA to a projector was a winning combination.
I have tried PPSSPP on my NVIDIA Shield (Tegra 4) and at first I was skeptical about it - audio was choppy and performance wasn't great in some situations, but then like the next day there was an update to PPSSPP and since then it has been running phenomenal (at least on the games I care about). I love using the "Unthrottle" feature to essentially fast forward the game too
So if you haven't tried it in a while you might give it another go. Shield is of course more powerful than OUYA, but you might at least have better results than before.
~Troop

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Trooper_Max said:
I haven't tried it on my OUYA, but one of my friends said using a PSP emulator and connecting his OUYA to a projector was a winning combination.
I have tried PPSSPP on my NVIDIA Shield (Tegra 4) and at first I was skeptical about it - audio was choppy and performance wasn't great in some situations, but then like the next day there was an update to PPSSPP and since then it has been running phenomenal (at least on the games I care about). I love using the "Unthrottle" feature to essentially fast forward the game too
So if you haven't tried it in a while you might give it another go. Shield is of course more powerful than OUYA, but you might at least have better results than before.
~Troop
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Hi!
I have a shield too but cannot make ppsspp work properly. U put ur roms on the sd or the internal storage? do u use any kind of special setting?
thx a lot!

Visegrad said:
Has anyone else tried the ppsspp emulator? I loaded Wipeout Pure and after changing a few setting, the best I get is a slightly slow version with no sound and frame skipping. That was the most playable I could get it. When I first loaded it it was total slow motion. Wipeout is a confirmed working game for this emu so I'm interested to see what settings combos people may have found that work for the OUYA.
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I play ppsspp on my phone with my friends all the time multiplayer It's cool and runs fast

I installed ppsspp on my samsung galaxy note 4. And it's absolutely amazing. Played tekken 6 in full 60 fps. But Wipeout pulse is lagging in some parts of the racing track (always at the same places. The framerate is constantly at 40 fps then, but the game runs really slow. Doesn't matter what settings I apply

How to Play PSP Video Games Smoothly on Your Samsung Galaxy Note 2

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If smartphone video games have a weakness, it's probably their inability to emulate the riveting and immersive experience that consoles offer.
Sure, there are mobile gaming products out there like the PlayStation Portable (PSP), but when we're constantly lugging around tablets, laptops, and more importantly—our Samsung Galaxy Note 2 phones—who really wants to carry around a separate, dedicated gaming device?!?
There are a lot of games in the Google Play Store, but few have what it takes to beat those available for the PSP and other portable gaming consoles. So, how can you bring open-world, storytelling, mission-based games like GTA: Liberty City Stories to your Android device?
Use an Emulator
a PSP emulatoravailable for free on Google Play allows you to bring larger-than-life video games right to your Android device!
While it's difficult to run newer, high-quality games as is on most Android devices, PPSSPP makes it possible to play ROM versions of them by simply emulating the experience.
Since its release, PPSSPP's library of games that it's able to play has increased substantially. Some of these games include:
Persona 3 Portable
Little Big Planet
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
God of War: Chains of Olympus
Final Fantasy Type-0
Wipeout Pure and Pulse
Mega Man: Maverick Hunter X
And many more!
PPSSPP is only an emulator, meaning you'll have to find the files on your own. If you're skilled enough, you can turn your own PSP games into .ISO/.CSO files. If you're not comfortable doing that, you can search the Web for the appropriate ROMs for games you already own. That's what I did in the following video with Little Big Planet.
YOUTUBE LINK :

My net is sufficiently slow to not be able to buffer videos, how's the gameplay and speed? I heard a while ago that very few games do run, and even if they do, quite slowly
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My net is sufficiently slow to not be able to buffer videos, how's the gameplay and speed? I heard a while ago that very few games do run, and even if they do, quite slowly
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well i actually tested some months ago with monster hunter freedon United and it was good no big problems playing, a bit laggy but it is by the emulator itself coz i switched off power saving and it worked in the same way. maybe now with some releases more it is good enough to play like in psp but if not you can also play without big problems
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I guess I'll give it a try, don't want to carry both the phone and the psp to college
Thanks!
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Play owners as primary phone?

Just checking how many people are using their Play as their primary phone in 2014? Been using this phone since 2011 and still love it. Have often contemplated getting a new one but I just don't feel the need. The new phones with no gamepad and new games isn't enough to justify.

I used mine until 2013 woukdve kept going if I wasnt away when the flex cable went out so I had to buy a new phone
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I've also had mine since 2011 but didn't know anything about rooting until late last year. I've considered buying the xperia z but i can wait it out i think since the only cos with this phone is the RAM and not a lot of roms working that are jellybean and above

no need to update....phone and emulators like ds,psp, n64 etc etc.....gps and 50 million apps...why do i need new phone?

Xplay said:
no need to update....phone and emulators like ds,psp, n64 etc etc.....gps and 50 million apps...why do i need new phone?
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Because cool new games coming out now won't even play on it? And the small, low resolution screen is an eyesore compared to modern phones?

i went from my galaxy s3 to my iphone 4s. and now i am back to my xperia play I just want to play emulators with the keyboard..

The best phone ever made........using it for almost 2 years and with custom roms and kernel it's performance is great for me!!Never thought changing it, it is just the perfect phone!!!and with low sar!!!

legacygt777 said:
Just checking how many people are using their Play as their primary phone in 2014? Been using this phone since 2011 and still love it. Have often contemplated getting a new one but I just don't feel the need. The new phones with no gamepad and new games isn't enough to justify.
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Nah, i bought one(m7) several months ago.
However, i use it everyday because i love it very much !!
(PLAY is also my first android phone )

Visa Declined said:
Because cool new games coming out now won't even play on it? And the small, low resolution screen is an eyesore compared to modern phones?
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it's about the gaming experience. asphalt 8 on my wife's htc m one isn't better than asphalt 6. fifa 14 on my xperia z tablet isn't better than xperia fifa 12. emulators and playing games from mame, lynx, snes, nes, etc still kill any phone out there because of the gamepad.
in society, people are trained by the market to get the latest and greatest. technology is in the hands of the beholder that knows how to use it. snap chat, facebook, Skype, taking notes, calendar, playing music, 4g, email, and especially video games makes the play completely functional. I know people that upgrade their phone every year or two and still do the same thing.
yeah the resolution is not as great, the camera is not as fancy, the speed might not be as fast, and the phone is bulky but I'm a gamer first and this phone still can't be touched in terms of gaming experience. anyone try the latest 2014 king of fighters on the play?

legacygt777 said:
it's about the gaming experience. asphalt 8 on my wife's htc m one isn't better than asphalt 6. fifa 14 on my xperia z tablet isn't better than xperia fifa 12. emulators and playing games from mame, lynx, snes, nes, etc still kill any phone out there because of the gamepad.
in society, people are trained by the market to get the latest and greatest. technology is in the hands of the beholder that knows how to use it. snap chat, facebook, Skype, taking notes, calendar, playing music, 4g, email, and especially video games makes the play completely functional. I know people that upgrade their phone every year or two and still do the same thing.
yeah the resolution is not as great, the camera is not as fancy, the speed might not be as fast, and the phone is bulky but I'm a gamer first and this phone still can't be touched in terms of gaming experience. anyone try the latest 2014 king of fighters on the play?
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The PLAY is a good phone for playing old games. but if it's the only device you have, then you're going to be sad every time an awesome new high end game comes out. Even web browsing and watching YouTube videos on it sucks compared a modern phone with a big 1080p screen. If all you do the entire day is sit around playing old games, then the PLAY might be the only phone you'll need.
I like my Xperia Play, and I'll never get rid of it, but even when I want to play emulators or old school games I pick up my nVidia Shield every time.

Well the play is like 4 years old
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Probably I will change phone at Christmas, my little cousin break the screen, and I don't use the phone as a console (3ds with Pokémon and Fire Emblem are my portable friend XD), and repairing the play will cost almost as much as a new phone.

I find it interesting that the new xperia E3 coming out is going to have the same pixel specs at 480 x 854. the new E3 is .5 bigger. these new phones keep getting bigger but eventually I predict them getting smaller again packing more punch and features.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/sony-xperia-e3/?ncid=rss_truncated