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So, Sony’s Jelly Bean 4.2 upgrade for Xperia Z and Xperia ZL is well underway* – next up, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z will start receiving 4.2 from early August.
Yesterday you probably saw Google announce the next version of Jelly Bean (Android 4.3) – we’re already getting stuck in and can confirm we’ll make 4.3 available for: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP and Xperia Z Ultra…
We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest.
If you fancy learning a little bit more about the technical side of our software development, check out Developer World’s latest piece on how we’re improving and refining our efforts to bring users new Android versions.
On that note, thank you for all the feedback on our Jelly Bean 4.1 rollout for Xperia 2012 products – we’re aware the process hasn’t been as succinct or as timely as you might’ve expected. As part of Developer World’s piece, Fredrik Ekstrand, our Head of Software Product Management, elaborates on some of the reasons for this, but essentially – we’ve heard your frustrations and are constantly improving the way we do things.
If you have any questions, feel free to drop them below.
Ant.
Source: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/
sxrmafia said:
So, Sony’s Jelly Bean 4.2 upgrade for Xperia Z and Xperia ZL is well underway* – next up, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z will start receiving 4.2 from early August.
Yesterday you probably saw Google announce the next version of Jelly Bean (Android 4.3) – we’re already getting stuck in and can confirm we’ll make 4.3 available for: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP and Xperia Z Ultra…
We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest.
If you fancy learning a little bit more about the technical side of our software development, check out Developer World’s latest piece on how we’re improving and refining our efforts to bring users new Android versions.
On that note, thank you for all the feedback on our Jelly Bean 4.1 rollout for Xperia 2012 products – we’re aware the process hasn’t been as succinct or as timely as you might’ve expected. As part of Developer World’s piece, Fredrik Ekstrand, our Head of Software Product Management, elaborates on some of the reasons for this, but essentially – we’ve heard your frustrations and are constantly improving the way we do things.
If you have any questions, feel free to drop them below.
Ant.
Source: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/
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M sure even when 4.3 is released...SP will get its update only by the end of the year....
puneethv said:
M sure even when 4.3 is released...SP will get its update only by the end of the year....
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We'll be lucky if it come before Christmas...
XRoCk3t12 said:
We'll be lucky if it come before Christmas...
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puneethv said:
M sure even when 4.3 is released...SP will get its update only by the end of the year....
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Wow! The Sony slagging has started already. Unbelievable.
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technaudio said:
Wow! The Sony slagging has started already. Unbelievable.
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Don't get me wrong, I would love to be wrong They are currently doing big efforts to be efficient and that why I bought a sony device in the first place.
They are the first to reply at the google announce so I hope for the best.
I would like to suggest the DEV Team to pay special attention to the Camera and Audio quality on the latest Xperia 2013 line , Using the the exmor sensor and as it was hyped the quality is just horrible and unacceptable from a sony device.
Just release the AOSP for this! Then the "XDA Dev Team" *lol* can take over..
It owuld be much easier for them.
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Seriously?
Android 4.2 was announced 8 month ago, and you will not give it to our Xperia SP, we must wait again some month (6? ). And they said, without no shame, "Check out on how we're improving our efforts"!
I think, they actually laughing about us!
technaudio said:
Wow! The Sony slagging has started already. Unbelievable.
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Bro wld loved to b proved wrong...but going by Sony's past history just taking a gig...even with the latest version India was the last to get the latest official update from .211 to .257
Better late than never!
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Seriously?
Android 4.2 was announced 8 month ago, and you will not give it to our Xperia SP, we must wait again some month (6? ). And they said, without no shame, "Check out on how we're improving our efforts"!
I think, they actually laughing about us!
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So, some other manufacturer like Samsung also skip the Android 4.2 to 4.3 in their last year flapship phone but u not complaint them also?
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So, some other manufacturer like Samsung also skip the Android 4.2 to 4.3 in their last year flapship phone but u not complaint them also?
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The S Advance had a huge jump, from GB to JB.
"你看到了没? 爱让我流胆怯的泪..."
"Have you seen it? Love has made me cry cowardly tears..."
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The S Advance had a huge jump, from GB to JB.
"你看到了没? 爱让我流胆怯的泪..."
"Have you seen it? Love has made me cry cowardly tears..."
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That's true. But I still stand by my choice of getting AOSP for the phone first.
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That's true. But I still stand by my choice of getting AOSP for the phone first.
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Sure thing.
CallMeVentus said:
The S Advance had a huge jump, from GB to JB.
"你看到了没? 爱让我流胆怯的泪..."
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I also got s Advance last time(for a week ) ,but JB stock Rom is too horrible so after use one week directly sell it
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sss2sssss said:
I also got s Advance last time(for a week ) ,but JB stock Rom is too horrible so after use one week directly sell it
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It's only laggy if you don't know what to do
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It's only laggy if you don't know what to do
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Errr ,the S advance not consider laggy ....=.=
What I see from the ROM ,they put the default min and max frequency is always 1000MHz
And the RAM management is unoptimize , the apps always in buzy usage and phone just hang at there ,need to wait it respond back
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A few hours ago the 4.2.2 update for the ZR started to roll. I hope we see it in our C530X in a few days or weeks
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A few hours ago the 4.2.2 update for the ZR started to roll. I hope we see it in our C530X in a few days or weeks
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I dont think so. Because Sony already gave a statement that it will skip 4.2 for Xperia SP und move directly to 4.3
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solid0snake said:
I dont think so. Because Sony already gave a statement that it will skip 4.2 for Xperia SP und move directly to 4.3
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No they didn't. Where the f did you even read that? They both implied that the SP update won't come early august and that they won't be skipping 4.2. That or they don't know how to write news releases.
Straight from sonys website:
So, Sony’s Jelly Bean 4.2 upgrade for Xperia Z and Xperia ZL is well underway* – next up, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z will start receiving 4.2 from early August.
Yesterday you probably saw Google announce the next version of Jelly Bean (Android 4.3) – we’re already getting stuck in and can confirm we’ll make 4.3 available for: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP and Xperia Z Ultra…
We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @SonyMobileNews for all the latest.
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Hellos guys
Herez the gud news for Xperia Z Series Flagship phones
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
check the below website
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11...ss&utm_campaign=on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
I like it....
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Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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Next month, as it says in the OP.
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Where did you get this?
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Pretty sure they will. But probably not in a good way.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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The developers here do a fantastic job and I have massive respect for everything they do for the modding/Android community. Several devices of mine have had their useful lives extended greatly because of people on XDA.
However, they are not under the same constraints as the devs that work for Sony.
Sony's devs will be under strict developmental, testing and qa constraints and cannot release updates with bugs and rely on people providing bug reports/logcats to fix said bugs after the fact. They have to release software with all features working and with minimal bugs.
Not to mention all the red tape/paperwork they no doubt have to deal with and the other devices that all need maintaining. I would also imagine that the budget for maintaining older devices is dwarfed by the budget for new devices.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the devs good work on XDA is only possible because of blobs/binaries provided by Sony's devs in the first place.
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Sony releases an update with a camera app that takes 4 sec to open and everyone loses sleep over it while some1 here releases an update with wifi issues, screen on delays etc, they get praise for the device bring up which gets labeled as 1st release. lol
Obviously Sony cant depend on rapid development and recoveries and backups and all the fancy stuff we do when we get into issues when it relates to the average android user who by the phone and occasionally plug it in for PC companion to update and that's it. When wifi stops working no one is gonna say " oh this is a first release. They will fix it soon". People take back the devices and swap brands like that. Consumers are a fickle bunch.
Also as I have always said to myself , AOSP is the most barebones and feature lacking kind of experience out there. Android has matured a lot since the froyo gingerbread days and so have the OEM modifications. The reason I decided on the XZ against the N4. I am one willing to sacrifice smoothness for functionality any day. My Z is still stock and I will probably keep it that way til the EOL is reached. I came from the LG O2x which got ICS in December/January so trust me when is say I can wait lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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I agree, I think we all know they could have done this even 2 months ago. But do consider, they have to put in all bugs and make the OS laggy...you know how hard a job that is?
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Like I said... They made money already. Why would they spend more?
You know how much its costing them to pay 1 second-grade developer and 4 trainees so they could have a running upgrade dept? $120 a day! Thats too much for them.
(sorry for the ranting sarcasm...moving on...)
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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There is nothing teased, it's just the news they put up.
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Overall Performance seems better on KK. The difference between ART and dalvik is pretty big in some apps aswell. 4.3 brings trim.
The camera however ... Not so sure about that. I doubt they will even update the camera stuff. Why bother spending time and money optimizing an old flagships camera when people can just buy the New flagship with a camera that is advertised to be incredible? That's how a big company works. Time is money. Sad reality.
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The C6616 model hasn't even gotten the 4.2 update yet.
Ya hopefully the C6616 will see 4.3 if not we will have to flash C6603
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Right I know it's too early to guess regarding the development of the Z2, but I checked out the Z1 subforum, and I'm unimpressed to be honest.
The Z1 was released September 2013. The HTC M8 was released April this year. The M8 is fast approaching the number of threads/kernels/ROMS.
Why are the Sony devices being left behind? I'm still waiting for my Z2, but I have something in the back of mind telling me the M8 will excel with development and stay updated/refreshed longer.
Any thoughts?
I have an M8 and a Z1 - awaiting my preorder of the Z2.
I'm actually selling the m8 as I actually prefer the Z1 over it. For me I much prefer look and feel and to be fair the only thing that I feel I will miss will be the gestures etc. However I believe some of those will be on the Z2 so no biggie.
The other is the screen as the z1 is inferior in that dept. But most important for me the Z1 pisses all over the M8 camera everyday.
So for me development or not I'm happy with stock and the far superior camera (like I said that is very important to me).
Can't wait to get my Z2.
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This is something I am worried about too. Doesnt look like many developers / cooks are going for sony devices. M8 and S5 forums are already brimming with kernels / mods / roms (I know z2 is yet to be released worldwide) but there is only a very limited amount available even for z1.
Part fun of being in this community is the development. To be honest, I find it more interesting to follow a device that's an underdog from the beginning. I went and looked in the Z1 development part of XDA and I saw CM11 ,paranoidandroid... Thats enough for me by far. It will be fun to study how Z2 develops.
I have no fear, only joy.
This also bugs me a lot. I currently have HTC desire HD which came with 2.2. So far I have flashed 2.3 4.0.4 4.1 4.2 4.3 and 4.4. Till 4.1 I have flashed both sense and asop roms. Does Z2 will keep up like this?
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Lack of need for "development" was one of the reasons why I ordered a Z2.After four years of Samsung on my i9000 and i9300 and the need to root it to remove the bloat,wherafter "enjoying " the "development of CM / PA/ Slimrom etc ,and the frustration of the poor results of this development,
I decided to go for the best phone available atm because Sony stays very close to "stock "android the way I enjoy it on my N7.
Maybe from now on I can only enjoy this beautifull phone without ending up running around in circles as a "flash.a.holic" again.
For those who wish to persist in their "flashing" habits : good luck with it....
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The good old Desire HD one of the best phones I've had. I'm still using a sensation at the moment because of the brilliant devs on this site.
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Sony plan on releasing a new flagship every 6 months so they will quickly leave you behind in official updates, so really one would hope that they can benefit from ROMs.
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Lack of need for "development" was one of the reasons why I ordered a Z2.After four years of Samsung on my i9000 and i9300 and the need to root it to remove the bloat,wherafter "enjoying " the "development of CM / PA/ Slimrom etc ,and the frustration of the poor results of this development,
I decided to go for the best phone available atm because Sony stays very close to "stock "android the way I enjoy it on my N7.
Maybe from now on I can only enjoy this beautifull phone without ending up running around in circles as a "flash.a.holic" again.
For those who wish to persist in their "flashing" habits : good luck with it....
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Meant to quote you in post above
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Samsung S3 ownwers are left behind on 4.3,their choice : stay on 4.3 or use any of the CM/PA/Slimrom 4.4.2 Roms.
This leads to a phone with the latest android version,the price you have to pay for it: camera malfunction,bluetooth sound stutters and sound issues for heavy gamers are only a few of the problems.I went up and down between 4.3 and 4.4.2 many times and learned my lesson ;better stay on the version thats working properly ( Samsungs Rom )
Sony updates all Z phones to Kitkat in may,so even with a Z of one year old you are not left behind.
Even if Sony leaves me behind at any time in future I will remember the lessons learned....
I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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Samsung S3 ownwers are left behind on 4.3,their choice : stay on 4.3 or use any of the CM/PA/Slimrom 4.4.2 Roms.
This leads to a phone with the latest android version,the price you have to pay for it: camera malfunction,bluetooth sound stutters and sound issues for heavy gamers are only a few of the problems.I went up and down between 4.3 and 4.4.2 many times and learned my lesson ;better stay on the version thats working properly ( Samsungs Rom )
Sony updates all Z phones to Kitkat in may,so even with a Z of one year old you are not left behind.
Even if Sony leaves me behind at any time in future I will remember the lessons learned....
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Samsung S3 has the exynos chipset, that makes it harder to develop for, but the kitkat roms on there aren't as buggy as you say, they will most likely be stable by the time Sony finally rolls out their kitkat update to the Z (possibly it's last update ever knowing Sony). I personally hate the idea of buying a Smartphone and in a year it feels ancient and like a thing from the past, I am not rich enough to update my phone so often and most contracts are lasting 2 years. The aftercare you get from Sony is too poor for me personally
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I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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Any idea of rooting this phone with locked bootloader? so we all can happily back up the TA partition.
While we're on the subject, is there a guide I can read explaining this Sony stuff? Mainly regarding the root process/DRM keys etc etc?
I'm new to Sony
mushtafa said:
While we're on the subject, is there a guide I can read explaining this Sony stuff? Mainly regarding the root process/DRM keys etc etc?
I'm new to Sony
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This is all about DRM/TA partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
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I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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@krabappel2548: Might be too early to ask you this question, but doesn't do any harm to ask I guess.
I really can't wait to replace the stock ROM with CM, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to loose functionality that is ROM specific, most importantly camera functions. As far as I understand it is not possible to install the Sony stock camera in another ROM because it comes with a whole framework (which I guess can't be ported?!). In addition to that I'm under the impression that previous versions of the xperia Z shot better pictures in low light with the stock ROM.
Do you know if we're gonna loose the camera app and it's features or is it possible to port it over to CM?
If you could shed some light onto this issue, I would appreciate that.
Hopefully there'll be GP edition of this!
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@krabappel2548: Might be too early to ask you this question, but doesn't do any harm to ask I guess.
I really can't wait to replace the stock ROM with CM, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to loose functionality that is ROM specific, most importantly camera functions. As far as I understand it is not possible to install the Sony stock camera in another ROM because it comes with a whole framework (which I guess can't be ported?!). In addition to that I'm under the impression that previous versions of the xperia Z shot better pictures in low light with the stock ROM.
Do you know if we're gonna loose the camera app and it's features or is it possible to port it over to CM?
If you could shed some light onto this issue, I would appreciate that.
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No, stock camera app won't work on cm, but you can always use 3rd party apps
I'm almost finished with device tree for Z2
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No, stock camera app won't work on cm, but you can always use 3rd party apps
I'm almost finished with device tree for Z2
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Well, it seems like the Sony camera is way better than any 3rd party camera out there, that's why I asked. I'll open up a new thread and see where that takes us.
btw. do you think we will be able to backup the TA partition on the Z2? I still haven't rooted my device
I think as Android improves with every iteration, OEMs are slowly learning that simple is good. The stock feature set on the Z2 is fantastic, as in the camera. Less and less people are going to be willing to sacrifice things like the native camera app when the perceived benefit of switching to a custom ROM diminishes.
Personally, the first thing I did when I got my Z2 was install Google Now Launcher for a vanilla Android look and feel, but I wouldn't even consider doing a build of my ROM for this phone at this point in time because the stock features are brilliant a they are.
I don't think lack of development is an indicator of an unsuccessful phone anymore, but rather the opposite.
HTC devices are inherently going to have a lot of development as long as they continue with Sense, because Sense is such a user polarizer.
I think the current state of the factory ROM after .55 update is quite stable with some small issues. I am content with the current ROM. It is snappy, no lag and smooth. No carton-ish icons or effects like the Samsung phones
Well apparently, Android 4.4.4 will be the last update for the older Xperia Z series. The Z, ZL, ZR and Tablet Z will not be receiving the 5.0
update. The Xperia Z3 , Z3 Compact, Z3 Tablet Compact, Z2, Z2
Tablet, Z1 Compact, Z1, and T2 Ultra are said to be the ones that
have been shortlisted to receive the update.
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May well be true. But that's totally expected as Z was launched way back early last year, its past the 18month support.
Having said that, we can't overlook the fact that the Z is one of the best supported devices by Sony. Think about it. (4.1.2,4.2.2,4.3,4.4.4)
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To be honest this phone is quite old now, so not such a big problem. They have given us a lot of good updates, and the phone works great as it is. You cant expect companies to update old devices. Plus all these new Android versions are very similar and not much differences since JellyBean..
I agree that Sony have provided excellent support for this device. Way above my expectations, if I'm honest.
It's no real shock if we don't get L. The Z is over 18 months old now and may be nearly 2 years old when L officially releases.
Personally, I would definitely buy another Sony flagship, even though they do pump them out a little fast for my liking.
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The 1st series of the Xperia Z smartphones were the devices that received the most updates from Sony
From 4.1.2 > 4.2.2 > 4.3 > 4.4.2 & now 4.4.4 ( count as minor update )
They had received a 3 huge updates
So I wouldn't expect Sony to release the Android L for these devices as they were already 18 months old
Btw I will get a Z3 later
Android L update
Based on my observations, I think XZ will get android L update...Compare the details in the following picture and u'll see the difference.
Whenever sony decide to stop the software update, under the software update page of that product they mention it as latest and final version..and when they are going to provide some more updates the mention it as only latest update n not final update....So i think there is huge possibility that XZ will get L update...
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Based on my observations, I think XZ will get android L update...Compare the details in the following picture and u'll see the difference.
Whenever sony decide to stop the software update, under the software update page of that product they mention it as latest and final version..and when they are going to provide some more updates the mention it as only latest update n not final update....So i think there is huge possibility that XZ will get L update...
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They only make that change on the update page when the decision to announce that the product is EOL for updates is made. They only recently announced the SP wouldn't get KitKat after months of "investigation".
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The only chance for Z & ZL is the fact that the nexus 4 will probably get android L (also Snapdragon 4 Pro).
But then again Sony might decide to just end support after 18 months.
I'm not expecting them to update Z series to L, but it would be chance my view from "good support" to "excellent support".
Though I'd rather have a super stable 4.4.4 than a buggy 5.0 release.
Once my ZL hits 2+ years (may 2015) I will look at Z4 compact with 805 soc and Android L .
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I agree that Sony have provided excellent support for this device. Way above my expectations, if I'm honest.
It's no real shock if we don't get L. The Z is over 18 months old now and may be nearly 2 years old when L officially releases.
Personally, I would definitely buy another Sony flagship, even though they do pump them out a little fast for my liking.
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Personally i can't agree.
The Z was updated always to latest, but:
The last fully usable firmware was the latest 4.2.2.
Everything past was buggy or unstable.
KitKat is now a year old but we still have no daily usable firmware, still annoying lags everywhere.
I do like Sony and use it since 4 years, but the Z's software and support is not on par with other comparable devices.
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Hey , last update for Xperia Z is 4.4.4 .... Source said that xperia will never get update to Android L. Sony claims that it will provide all updates...
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Personally i can't agree.
The Z was updated always to latest, but:
The last fully usable firmware was the latest 4.2.2.
Everything past was buggy or unstable.
KitKat is now a year old but we still have no daily usable firmware, still annoying lags everywhere.
I do like Sony and use it since 4 years, but the Z's software and support is not on par with other comparable devices.
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My experience differs. I have none of the lag or other problems reported by others around here, neither in 4.4.2 or 4.4.4. I mean, let's be honest here, none of the software they've provided for the Z is anywhere close to what would be classed as unusable, even the first 4.2.2 rom they provided that was indeed laggy yet still functional.
My expectations may be lower than others though, as I had an LG Optimus 2X before my Z and the stock rom on that was the very definition of "P.O.S"!
This is in fact the only Android device I've owned where I've stayed with the stock rom for this long.
Anyway, show me an Android device, and I'll find you a forum where people are complaining about the manufacturer for one reason or another! It's the nature of advanced users that frequent Internet forums to never be happy with their electronic stuff!
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kingvortex said:
My experience differs. I have none of the lag or other problems reported by others around here, neither in 4.4.2 or 4.4.4. I mean, let's be honest here, none of the software they've provided for the Z is anywhere close to what would be classed as unusable, even the first 4.2.2 rom they provided that was indeed laggy yet still functional.
My expectations may be lower than others though, as I had an LG Optimus 2X before my Z and the stock rom on that was the very definition of "P.O.S"!
This is in fact the only Android device I've owned where I've stayed with the stock rom for this long.
Anyway, show me an Android device, and I'll find you a forum where people are complaining about the manufacturer for one reason or another! It's the nature of advanced users that frequent Internet forums to never be happy with their electronic stuff!
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Haha yeah lg 2x was a serious letdown.
I may have higher expectations, but see HTC offers 4.1 to L for their old One.
Its the flagship policy that ruins Sony phones.
They should deserve more, but can't get a "comparable" software support as long as they release 2 flagships a year.
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Haha yeah lg 2x was a serious letdown.
I may have higher expectations, but see HTC offers 4.1 to L for their old One.
Its the flagship policy that ruins Sony phones.
They should deserve more, but can't get a "comparable" software support as long as they release 2 flagships a year.
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Yeah, I said earlier that they release flagships too fast. Every 6 months is too soon and each new one isn't really a huge upgrade from the last.
Anyway, I'm looking at keeping the Z for another 6 months then will look at what's around. Z4/Z4C maybe, or Nexus if there's a new one released.
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Yeah, I said earlier that they release flagships too fast. Every 6 months is too soon and each new one isn't really a huge upgrade from the last.
Anyway, I'm looking at keeping the Z for another 6 months then will look at what's around. Z4/Z4C maybe, or Nexus if there's a new one released.
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The Z is an awesome and beautiful phone, but knowing Sony will take months to do a stable release i'll sell my Z with a heavy heart and return to a Nexus.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Personally i can't agree.
The Z was updated always to latest, but:
The last fully usable firmware was the latest 4.2.2.
Everything past was buggy or unstable.
KitKat is now a year old but we still have no daily usable firmware, still annoying lags everywhere.
I do like Sony and use it since 4 years, but the Z's software and support is not on par with other comparable devices.
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Not true.
4.3 was 100% stable and fast.
Only 4.4.2 was buggy.
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Not true.
4.3 was 100% stable and fast.
Only 4.4.2 was buggy.
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As much as i'd like to agree, there were several bugs.
Plus it became laggy after some time of usage, the same is happening on other xperias too.
But lets stop OT now.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
As much as i'd like to agree, there were several bugs.
Plus it became laggy after some time of usage, the same is happening on other xperias too.
But lets stop OT now.
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Well, not for me.
I was on 4.3 for MONTHS because 4.4.2 didn't come for my cust.nr until ~august 2014 (and didn't care for 4.4.2).
Never any real lags either and didn't reboot for periods of weeks.
4.4.4 is a pretty stable release. Battery life is good too. As it is, the Android L update is slated to arrive on Sony Phones in Feb 2015. By that time, the Z will be 2 years old. Too old in this universe.
We should get custom rom ports though. Android L does look promising. Especially since Sony will dish out a new UI
So, Android M has been out for more than two hours now and so far there is not a single topic/thread asking when will we finally get it?
I mean, the dozing stuff is quite cool. Too bad we have (likely producing the exact same results) Stamina mode already.
But the automatic app data backup is quite amazing (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...eynote-automatic-app-data-backup-and-restore/).
So, what do you guys think? Will we even get the update in the end? What are the features you would really like to have it for?
I do think we'll eventually get Android M on our Z3's but we'll probably be waiting around a year or so (roughly 6 months till most nexus devices get it then another 6 months or so while Sony fine tunes and tests). Let's not forget today's release is just a developer preview and a lot of new functions aren't even working yet.
I'm looking forward to having dark theme setting available, keyboard undo/redo shortcuts (sounds useful) and granular app permissions. Sd card also appears to be back in favour with the new adoption feature and battery historian v2 should give us much better stats
I reckon Sony will release Android M around April / May 2016.
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So, Android M has been out for more than two hours now and so far there is not a single topic/thread asking when will we finally get it?
I mean, the dozing stuff is quite cool. Too bad we have (likely producing the exact same results) Stamina mode already.
But the automatic app data backup is quite amazing (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...eynote-automatic-app-data-backup-and-restore/).
So, what do you guys think? Will we even get the update in the end? What are the features you would really like to have it for?
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Backup restore is like Titanium backup?
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I reckon Sony will release Android M around April / May 2016.
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Backup restore is like Titanium backup?
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Yes, the app data up to 25MB per app. Backed up to GDrive.
Myself, I would be pretty shocked if we get official M from Sony. We just barely went from KK to LP and I am not so happy with 5.0.2 and I want 5.1.x ASAP.
Man lol, I'm still enjoying Kit Kat for our Z3.. Don't even look forward to an update as the phone keeps chugging along fine. If M does come though, I wouldn't mind it.
Hopefully we get Android M. If not that would be quite disappointing. Also hope that they go with Macaroon for Android M name
I think it will be Marshmallow
But the screenshots are disappointing. Looks exactly like Lollipop.
I don't like the new way Google makes their Software. There are too much updates and changes so the modding and Developer Community will die slowly.
I like the new look and feel of Android L. And I will be very very happy if there would be Android M for the Z3.
Wasn't there the guarantee from Sony, that they would upgrade to two major releases?
Android M preview is now out for the Z3, Z3 Compact, Z3 Tablet Compact, Z2, Z2 Tablet, Z1, Z1 Compact, Z Ultra, E3, M2, T2 Ultra and T3: http://developer.sonymobile.com/kno...eveloper-preview-for-unlocked-xperia-devices/
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So, Android M has been out for more than two hours now and so far there is not a single topic/thread asking when will we finally get it?
I mean, the dozing stuff is quite cool. Too bad we have (likely producing the exact same results) Stamina mode already.
But the automatic app data backup is quite amazing (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...eynote-automatic-app-data-backup-and-restore/).
So, what do you guys think? Will we even get the update in the end? What are the features you would really like to have it for?
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Probably because M hasn't been out for more than two hours. M won't be out until late Fall (October/November). Just like the L developer preview came at I/O but L didn't go live until early November.
However, Google pushed more of the M dev preview source to AOSP than they did for L dev preview (there was no way anyone could even think about building AOSP for L-preview), but it is still fairly incomplete. So don't expect anything other than proof-of-concept hacks that aren't usable for a daily driver until sometime after October/November when M goes live officially. For example, the "Now On Tap" feature seems to be completely missing from AOSP in the M-preview branches.
Entropy512 said:
Probably because M hasn't been out for more than two hours. M won't be out until late Fall (October/November). Just like the L developer preview came at I/O but L didn't go live until early November.
However, Google pushed more of the M dev preview source to AOSP than they did for L dev preview (there was no way anyone could even think about building AOSP for L-preview), but it is still fairly incomplete. So don't expect anything other than proof-of-concept hacks that aren't usable for a daily driver until sometime after October/November when M goes live officially. For example, the "Now On Tap" feature seems to be completely missing from AOSP in the M-preview branches.
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Will this be helpful for both devs and OEM to release M sooner than Lollipop?
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Is M a right firmware or are they just binaries? Might think read something about it...
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Will this be helpful for both devs and OEM to release M sooner than Lollipop?
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It depends on how much more Google changes internally before M goes live in October/November. So far changes from L to make AOSP "m-preview" work weren't significant, but that's partly because a lot of the "M-preview" source is closer to L than to M as the source is incomplete.
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Is M a right firmware or are they just binaries? Might think read something about it...
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90% certain they're using the same blobs as L. Haven't had time to look at the M build info yet, honestly not really planning on bothering with it vs. fixing remaining AOSP L issues.