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GS3 GT-I9305 LTE European version; Exynos 4412 Quad, 2 GB RAM, Mali GPU.

Guys, this is what I've been waiting for. :good:
Samsung just released it’s Android 4.1 Jelly Bean kernel source code for the LTE Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9305). Don’t confuse this device with the dual-core snapdragon S4 US Variant as this is the European LTE variant. GT-I9305 has the same Quad-Core Exynos 4412 CPU and the same ARM’s Mali-400MP GPU as the international Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300).The only differences are that the European LTE variant uses 2GB RAM instead of 1GB and has LTE Radios.
This means that 3rd party Android developers, like the CyanogenMod team, can use European LTE Galaxy S III’s (GT-I9305) Android 4.1 Jelly Bean kernel source code to fix major bugs like the Memory Leak, HW Composer and Mali GPU related issues they were having with the International Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300) as these both devices are very much identical. This source code can vastly improve and improve their Custom ROMs.
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Source:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/09/19...e-code-for-lte-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gt-i9305/
What do you think, best phone ever? If they would only pack it with a non-pentile-screen also, but at this point I can't say no any more, coming from my Arc S.
It will be interesting to see benchmark results and what difference the RAM might do.

The i9300 isn't the best phone now i9305 is...I don't under stand Samsung it been 4 month and release a better phone

got-petrol said:
The i9300 isn't the best phone now i9305 is...I don't under stand Samsung it been 4 month and release a better phone
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My thoughts exactly. Seriously, what company releases a new model to replace their top of the line phone within 4 months of release. I love my Samsung phones but this is really bad form on Samsungs part.
Imagine if Apple releases the iPhone 6 in 4 months time. There will be riots. It won't happen. So much for resale value on the S3 i9300. Once stock runs out here in Oz it will no longer be sold. Replaced by the i9305.
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Frankly, this is what I expected the initial GS3 to be like. This and a non-pentile screen. Maybe old Sammy didn't finish LTE-integration in time for the GT-I9300, and maybe they packed it with only 1 gig RAM to save a few bucks. Idunno. Sorry to say, I think we're gonna have to live with 720-pen-tile 'til spring next year.
But this version is going to be... blistering! Especially after the buzz with launcher redraws due to lack of RAM, I'm looking forward to the comparisons. It comes in all-black as well.
I wonder what the coming Nexus will be based on. Do we dare to hope? I don't think Sammy will allow a copy of GT-I9305 as a Nexus, but man would it be nice.
Let's sit and wait for a release date.

If all GT-i9300 ROMs work on this i9305 then I'm sold instantly.

From what i've heard LTE uses quite a lot of ram so that's why it's needed in the I9305 version...

nfsmw_gr said:
From what i've heard LTE uses quite a lot of ram so that's why it's needed in the I9305 version...
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And battery I'll stick with the i9300 ram can be optimised and 4g isn't big yet
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Ausboy 2011 said:
And battery I'll stick with the i9300 ram can be optimised and 4g isn't big yet
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Well said.

Wonder if you'll be able to install apps to external SD on this one?
BS...

Didn't the iphone 4s come out like 5 or 6 months after the iphone 4? I know a few people swapped the 4 for the 4s.
I for one will be selling my s3 as soon as the s3 lte version comes out.
I was hoping it was out next week or thereabouts but it's looking doubtful.

This version will work on 3g network? I mean, o have a 9300 and i wanna change for 9305 but im not shure if will work on brasilian network.
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projectsome said:
Didn't the iphone 4s come out like 5 or 6 months after the iphone 4? I know a few people swapped the 4 for the 4s.
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Difference was about 1 yr 4 months between releases. June 2010 to October 2011.
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nfsmw_gr said:
From what i've heard LTE uses quite a lot of ram so that's why it's needed in the I9305 version...
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Most likely true, but the RAM will come in handy even when LTE is shut off.

brenogbi said:
This version will work on 3g network? I mean, o have a 9300 and i wanna change for 9305 but im not shure if will work on brasilian network.
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Yes, it will still work with 2G, 3G and 3.5G.

No it doesnt use that much ram it would use as much as the korean version and I have a screenshot showing 1.1gb Free Ram and thats with alot of tasks running. I have been waiting for this phone for over 1 month now its pretty old news, It was released in australia yesterday but its 16gb version so I am waiting for the 32gb which I will snap up straight away shouldnt be that much longer now.
And this will the the final release of the flagship phone before the S4 who cares why is everyone crying they releasing a better phone. Better for us we have more options now. I actually cant wait to get my hands on this one in my opinion this is how the original specs should look like finally they actually thought abit and released it

Because many people bought this phone outright for $800+ at launch

btemtd said:
No it doesnt use that much ram it would use as much as the korean version and I have a screenshot showing 1.1gb Free Ram and thats with alot of tasks running. I have been waiting for this phone for over 1 month now its pretty old news, It was released in australia yesterday but its 16gb version so I am waiting for the 32gb which I will snap up straight away shouldnt be that much longer now.
And this will the the final release of the flagship phone before the S4 who cares why is everyone crying they releasing a better phone. Better for us we have more options now. I actually cant wait to get my hands on this one in my opinion this is how the original specs should look like finally they actually thought abit and released it
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Its a nice phone and if I was in the market today I would get one instead of the i9300... 1.1g of free ram is nice, but frankly if you have that much "free" at any point in time its just wasted. Had zero multitasking issues with the i9300..

Don't worry guys.... after all releases of any Samsung models you will still go for whatever phone you want to buy...you will always be disappointed, that's how they control consumers... just think!!!
I thought we already know how this works!This people at Samsung sales are just laughing.... So why don't we just stay with what phone we have and maybe change it after 2 years, that's how it's suppose to be.
Except if you have a lot of money to spend with buying top of the line phones. Then go for it!

It was when there was a problem of getting a quad-core to work with a 4G LTE Chipset (Reason why all the American S3 's have dual-cores). They only were able to find a solution when they were testing the Galaxy Note 2. Since then, they can now get the new Quad-core into the Galaxy S3 with 4G. 4G also will use more RAM than its predecessor.
Even Apple tried to fix it, until recently they were able to fit the quad-core A6 chip into their iPhone5 with LTE. They could have put in a quad-core into their iPad 3, but didn't at the time cuz of the 4G / Quad-core incompatibility, instead they used the A5X (The original dual-core A5 processor hyper-threaded to a logical 4 cores) not a quad-core.
Well, now we're all gonna be getting more powerful quad-core powered phones with 4G!!!

wel I will let you know if its wasted ram or not when I get it I will report back. I also bought the l9300 But I didnt pay 800, Few hundred dollars less. And I will sell it after I buy the I9305, I will be out of pocket maximum $100 so I think that's a good deal.

Nexus 4 or Samsung Galaxy S4?

http://www.popherald.com/20121117_iphone_5s_vs_samsung_galaxy_s4_myth-20855
Nexus 4 has google experience but no LTE, extSD
Samsung tends to have LTE and extSD...but based on the article the S4 will match Verizon Droid DNA 440ppi, but OLED so even better than Droid DNA...that's going to be one kickass phone to have. Downside is probably have to wait for 4 months (until CES 2013) and no google experience.
Worth the waiting?
440ppi overrated?

If you need/want to replace your phone now, get the Nexus 4. If you're planning on waiting at least six months, you'll probably want to look for something else, phone hardware is constantly being one-upped by the newest release.

Are you honestly asking if you should get a phone that won't be released for another 6+ months?
Good luck with that.

Are you able to get it at upgrade price? If not then is LTE (if you have at&t. If you have T-Mobile you may be waiting for a while to get LTE) and expandable storage worth an extra $300+. If you can afford to pay the difference than it's up to your preference
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kcls said:
Are you honestly asking if you should get a phone that won't be released for another 6+ months?
Good luck with that.
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Could be six months before he can add an n4 to the play store shopping cart so that question isn't too far fetched
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How about the Nexus 5 vs Galaxy S5, any recommendations?

I think nexus8 will be the best choice. S10 also not bad.
Really do not understand why people gonna compare something doesn't exist.
If nexus 4 or note2. I think will be better.
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bdithug said:
Could be six months before he can add an n4 to the play store shopping cart so that question isn't too far fetched
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LOL. Ok I get it.
The specs sound tempting...I decided I'll just buy the N4, then sell it later on craigslist if I want that new device.

kobesabi said:
http://www.popherald.com/20121117_iphone_5s_vs_samsung_galaxy_s4_myth-20855
Nexus 4 has google experience but no LTE, extSD
Samsung tends to have LTE and extSD...but based on the article the S4 will match Verizon Droid DNA 440ppi, but OLED so even better than Droid DNA...that's going to be one kickass phone to have. Downside is probably have to wait for 4 months (until CES 2013) and no google experience.
Worth the waiting?
440ppi overrated?
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the nexus4 is $299 right now with no contract
the s4 will most likely be in the $600+ range when it comes out and by then the n4 could see a $50 price drop...
so you are comparing a $250 phone vs a $600 phone

norazi said:
the nexus4 is $299 right now with no contract
the s4 will most likely be in the $600+ range when it comes out and by then the n4 could see a $50 price drop...
so you are comparing a $250 phone vs a $600 phone
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I don't see why people label phones based on their price. Do you honestly think any of today's phones are worth what they cost? HECK NO.
Google did something extreme here. They offered a FLAGSHIP unlocked device for a REASONABLE price which is something that hasn't been done. I don't care what you say, no Galaxy phone is worth $600. It's an EXTREME price markup. And no, a higher markup doesn't mean the phone is higher quality (plastic junk that is the current S III).

s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water

I have no money to buy the Galaxy S4 T_T
I think it will be too expensive!
The Nexus 4 is better.
Sorry about my bad English!

Stupid comparison, comparing the nexus 4 to a phone that isn't arriving til summer 2013 based on their past 3 galaxy phones and their release dates.
You might aswell ask Galaxy s4 vs Nexus 5 as that's the same timeframe difference!
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N4 or S4 that's a good question !
I wanted N4 now to replace my sgs2, but we may need to wait a month to get it, and rumors around the s4 are growing fast since the coming out of iphone 5 and nexus 4 ! It could be presented in january but more likely in february (in any case sooner than usual).
What we know : samsung as developped a thinner 64gb drive and more powerfull, getting its exynos 5 quadcore ready and mali t658, invested 1billions in oled fhd screens, referenced recently a 4"99 screen with 441ppp, they are now ok with induction charging, and we also know samsung is going to realese the s4 quicker (february). Forgot the flexible screen for early 2013, I don't know how they can integrate it in a fonctionnal daily use.
Also, adreno 320 is one of the first compatible with next opengl es 3.0, wich 2 year old mali 400 is not !
I can imagine the mali t658 if realesed will give a huge kick in the ass of adreno 320
So nexus 4 350 coins in a month for best performance of the year, or wait 2 months for s4 announcement of a product that will kick everybody's ass... that's a good question.
I've been dispointed by samsung this year : 1go ram in s3, mali 400 and low resolution in note 2, I really hope they gonna be perfect in 2013 !!
(Not the point here but have you seen their screens for 2013 ?? Transparent, flexible, high resolution oled etc... )
Last point, if we all die on december 21th, just get a N4 ^^

Pirate-X said:
N4 or S4 that's a good question !
I wanted N4 now to replace my sgs2, but we may need to wait a month to get it, and rumors around the s4 are growing fast since the coming out of iphone 5 and nexus 4 ! It could be presented in january but more likely in february (in any case sooner than usual).
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Says who?
All I read was release most likely in Q3 2013, and thats quite reasonable.

nba1341 said:
s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water
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I sense a strong amount of fanboyism and biasm. Also not sure why you're posting here if you're already completely dismissing the device. This is coming from someone who owned a plasticky S3 and well aware of its build quality, as well as owning the SII, Note and Nexus and various other Samsung.

nba1341 said:
s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water
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I've used both and you're wrong

nba1341 said:
s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water
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no..you see..you got it all wrong..the nexus 5 will mop the floor with it

nba1341 said:
s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water
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not better in build quality, you may like plastics more than the glass on the nexus 4 but the nexus 4 build quality is tons better.

Testraindrop said:
Says who?
All I read was release most likely in Q3 2013, and thats quite reasonable.
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It began with the intervieuw of an official samsung employee in the korea times when iphone 5 came out. But you're right nobody knows, it could be next week, it could be never ! it is not because apple is lost since steve jobs'death that samsung has to bring new products every 6 months !!
Also s3 isn't > N4, look at ram, gpu, opengl es 3.0 support for next gen, plastics...:good:

Where should I buy Galaxy S4 (Exynos 5)?

Hi guys! I'm looking for a good supplier of factory unlocked Galaxy S4 (Exynos 5) (probably SGH-I9500) from any country. Europe preferred.
Please leave your suggestions below. Thanks in advance.

Expansys or Negri.
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this can go in the Q&A section

@rbiter said:
Expansys or Negri.
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Thank you! Expansys only have GT-I9505 (Qualcomm), but Negri has a decent price. Any other options?

cormogram said:
Thank you! Expansys only have GT-I9505 (Qualcomm), but Negri has a decent price. Any other options?
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Expansys USA http://www.expansys-usa.com/
Does the Octa really worths so much for you. Compare the phones before choosing. Getting Octa you probably will pay $100 more than Snapdragon for almost no differences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5im3WAZYc

demlasjr said:
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Does the Octa really worths so much for you. Compare the phones before choosing. Getting Octa you probably will pay $100 more than Snapdragon for almost no differences.
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What I've found up to now are:
GT-I9500 Negri $798.50
GT-I9500 Expansys-USA $799.99
GT-I9500 techno.trading(ebay.com) $797.97
GT-I9505 Best Buy $750.00 (with no activation)
Including FedEx 2-day shipping the lowest cost is from Negri, but Best Buy offer cheaper, although limited+bloated crap, operator versions.

demlasjr said:
Expansys USA http://www.expansys-usa.com/
Does the Octa really worths so much for you. Compare the phones before choosing. Getting Octa you probably will pay $100 more than Snapdragon for almost no differences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5im3WAZYc
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4 x A15 (2.2GHz MAX whitesheet)
4 x A7 (1.6GHz MAX whitesheet)
Kernel 3.9 (Linaro Patches should become core components) allowing for native HMP. User configurable XULV for battery (run on one A7 ...) or XHP (run on all 8 cpus) or anything in between.
that $100 is an investment in a ceiling that has me personally geekin out. I cant convince you personally, but if Android 5.0 or 5.1 makes the jump to 3.8, its possible to patch the kernel and reap the benefits. someone would have to work their tail off on an AOSP and lose all the customizations to android by samsung, but raw potential, has the 600 way short for a sheer value proposition, increased usability over time.
ps: plus they gave EVERYONE ddr3 ... no one mentions this in the comparisons to the one, i believe however that the Z/ZL also have ddr3 sony made that a point of emphasis. always the plastic ... but no one says anything about the Ones slow ram

shadym1lkman said:
4 x A15 (2.2GHz MAX whitesheet)
4 x A7 (1.6GHz MAX whitesheet)
Kernel 3.9 (Linaro Patches should become core components) allowing for native HMP. User configurable XULV for battery (run on one A7 ...) or XHP (run on all 8 cpus) or anything in between.
that $100 is an investment in a ceiling that has me personally geekin out. I cant convince you personally, but if Android 5.0 or 5.1 makes the jump to 3.8, its possible to patch the kernel and reap the benefits. someone would have to work their tail off on an AOSP and lose all the customizations to android by samsung, but raw potential, has the 600 way short for a sheer value proposition, increased usability over time.
ps: plus they gave EVERYONE ddr3 ... no one mentions this in the comparisons to the one, i believe however that the Z/ZL also have ddr3 sony made that a point of emphasis. always the plastic ... but no one says anything about the Ones slow ram
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Thanks for the info shadym1lkman! You mean that with kernel 3.9 we'll be able to use the 8 cores simultaneoulsy?
What about the cooling? I've been having overheating issues since Galaxy S2...

Ty for the info shadym1lkman. But as cormogram said, I think that the phone will melt in your hand. On the other side, I can buy other phone or wait for Tegra or something else, but I like Samsung features. I would like to lose them.
Related with the ram, both version have LPPDDR3, but as I read, in Octa is at 800Mhz, which makes it work at 12.8gb/s, a bit more faster than the S600. But right now, the difference is insignificant
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demlasjr said:
Ty for the info shadym1lkman. But as cormogram said, I think that the phone will melt in your hand. On the other side, I can buy other phone or wait for Tegra or something else, but I like Samsung features. I would like to lose them.
Related with the ram, both version have LPPDDR3, but as I read, in Octa is at 800Mhz, which makes it work at 12.8gb/s, a bit more faster than the S600. But right now, the difference is insignificant
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the HTC One does not have DDR3.

shadym1lkman said:
the HTC One does not have DDR3.
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I didn't know that. Well, that's one of the reasons S4 wins the battle with HTC One. Thanks for the info again
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Where can I get an unlocked 64GB Octo S4?

I'm currenty in the USA, and travel internationally. I'd like to get the S4, but can't seem to find a source for an OEM, unlocked, 64GB Octo-core version. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? Some sites have the Octo-core but only 16GB, or they have the 64GB but only the quad-core. I'm not one to upgrade my phone every 2 weeks (sarcasm), so this will be an investment for me. No carrier-branded versions, or locked ROMs (I do flash my phones).
Thanks!

http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-64-gb-unlocked-black-mist.html#.UYhQTrXvt1E
Why do you want the exynos one?

dli7319 said:
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-64-gb-unlocked-black-mist.html#.UYhQTrXvt1E
Why do you want the exynos one?
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Thanks for the link!
I want the latest and greatest because it'll make me feel better about myself and will hopefully make me be accepted by others.
In all seriousness, I've been reading reviews and comparisons, and although the performances are very close, I'm concerned about ... I can't think of the term, but "un-upgradable" after 6-12 months. I'm currently using a Samsung Droid Charge from 2011, and while it was a nice and capable phone then, it still functions as a nice phone now. Only problem is I've reached a ceiling as far as upgradability. I am stuck with Android v2.3.6 (Eclipse ROM), while "current phones" are running Android 4.2+. I'm a very heavy user of the phone and many of its features, and find that I'm often coming across performance issues.
That's just a brief reason why I'd prefer to get the Exynos version. I'm open to suggestions, but I certainly don't want a USA carrier-branded/bloated/locked version. Those days for me are over (the proverbial ball and chain are gone).

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whiteblazer01 said:
Thanks for the link!
I want the latest and greatest because it'll make me feel better about myself and will hopefully make me be accepted by others.
In all seriousness, I've been reading reviews and comparisons, and although the performances are very close, I'm concerned about ... I can't think of the term, but "un-upgradable" after 6-12 months. I'm currently using a Samsung Droid Charge from 2011, and while it was a nice and capable phone then, it still functions as a nice phone now. Only problem is I've reached a ceiling as far as upgradability. I am stuck with Android v2.3.6 (Eclipse ROM), while "current phones" are running Android 4.2+. I'm a very heavy user of the phone and many of its features, and find that I'm often coming across performance issues.
That's just a brief reason why I'd prefer to get the Exynos version. I'm open to suggestions, but I certainly don't want a USA carrier-branded/bloated/locked version. Those days for me are over (the proverbial ball and chain are gone).
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Team hacksung,
the team behind all the s3/s2/note2 ports of cm have pledged not to work with exynos hardware, and Cyanogen himself who used to work at Samsung is only supporting qualcomm galaxy s4s, the performance difference is honestly negligible, and without fm radio, there is no benefit (if any a con) to get the international s4, Cyanogen currently works on a tmobile galaxy s4 btw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39255132&postcount=27
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Keep in mind that gsm phones won't work on Verizon, highly suggest you switch to tmobile's $30 plan
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Team hacksung,
the team behind all the s3/s2/note2 ports of cm have pledged not to work with exynos hardware, and Cyanogen himself who used to work at Samsung is only supporting qualcomm galaxy s4s, the performance difference is honestly negligible, and without fm radio, there is no benefit (if any a con) to get the international s4, Cyanogen currently works on a tmobile galaxy s4 btw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39255132&postcount=27
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I was actually considering that as a reason not to get the Exynos, and since the performance is negligible, I just might get the quad-core, for the sake of customizability and upgradability. Seems to be a waste of potential technological opportunity.
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Keep in mind that gsm phones won't work on Verizon, highly suggest you switch to tmobile's $30 plan
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Oh, right. I forgot, the Droid Charge is a Verizon-branded phone. I haven't had Verizon since shortly after I got the phone, but I'm still using the phone... offline (complicated story).
I'll be using a different carrier while in the USA (without a contract), as I'll be traveling to other countries, so Verizon wouldn't be an option anyway.

At $890, you could literally buy a 16GB Nexus 4 And a 32 GB nexus 10, or a 64gb htc one and many accessories (wifi hdd), or 2 nexus phones, just keep in mind that the s4 is only the best by spec, the htc one has better speakers and screen and build quality plus it is already out and $200 cheaper, feel free to wait for the s4 if you are set on it but it is priced to much like a iPhone IMHO
And you have a proper warranty when buying a htc one since it isn't a grey import
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I'll tell you why...
dli7319 said:
At $890, you could literally buy a 16GB Nexus 4 And a 32 GB nexus 10, or a 64gb htc one and many accessories (wifi hdd), or 2 nexus phones, just keep in mind that the s4 is only the best by spec, the htc one has better speakers and screen and build quality plus it is already out and $200 cheaper, feel free to wait for the s4 if you are set on it but it is priced to much like a iPhone IMHO
And you have a proper warranty when buying a htc one since it isn't a grey import
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Because the Samsung has a replaceable battery along with the memory card slot. I use my phone for my business and I CANNOT be strapped to a charger all day. Being able to swap batteries in the middle of the day, no matter where I am, makes Samsung the only viable game in town. You can keep your shiny cool aluminum sealed cell phone. I'll take the good 'ole removable plastic backed one every time.

OK, btw I have a s3 and I understand the convenience of removable batteries and storage
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You have to keep in mind that we're in a non-US phone forum. It also happens to dwarf all US S3 forums in terms of development. What I mean by that is although CM may be working on the US version, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a huge contingent of devs for the Exynos version. Just take a look at the AT&T or T-Mobile forums for the Note2 or S3. They don't have any dev support. AndreiLux, my fav dev, has already committed to the Exynos.
Personally, I don't care for CM. It's my personal opinion that CM is best suited for lower-end phones that need the purity of Android without the bloatware because of limited tech specs. If you have a beastly S4 or HTC One, why bother.
My advice would be to get a 16GB Exynos and wait until the development starts happening. Also get ready for 128GB Micro SD Cards. I hear they're rolling out first half of this year.

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this is the i9300 forum

jinosong said:
You have to keep in mind that we're in a non-US phone forum. It also happens to dwarf all US S3 forums in terms of development. What I mean by that is although CM may be working on the US version, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a huge contingent of devs for the Exynos version. Just take a look at the AT&T or T-Mobile forums for the Note2 or S3. They don't have any dev support. AndreiLux, my fav dev, has already committed to the Exynos.
Personally, I don't care for CM. It's my personal opinion that CM is best suited for lower-end phones that need the purity of Android without the bloatware because of limited tech specs. If you have a beastly S4 or HTC One, why bother.
My advice would be to get a 16GB Exynos and wait until the development starts happening. Also get ready for 128GB Micro SD Cards. I hear they're rolling out first half of this year.
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I respect your opinion but as I see it, pure Android is faster, slimmer and overall technically better, meanwhile Touchwiz is more consumer oriented and has several quirks and bugs.
Since we are in a developer-oriented forum, several folks will want that. It never hurts to have wider support/more options.
And AOSP in a beastly phone runs even better.
I wouldn't bet on the Exynos version, not many developers will join the fray after all the BS Samsung has pulled recently, and their dismal support of their own SoC
Since you namedropped him: Andrei has mentioned some valuable things about the Octa that might help steer the decision one way or another (he has the Octa variant):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258519
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41125997&postcount=4
Qualcomm has great resources for developers and is widely accepted. Most likely the next Nexus devices will be based on the latest Snapdragons.
Edit: @ OP: You might wanna read the S4 forums for a while, there are some issues with the screen for some folks. Just to make sure you have it in mind
OT: Glebun, go mini-mod somewhere else, please. Your posts serve no purpose in this context for more than adding 1 extra post to your count.
That's what the report button is for, if you reply, you give a thread more relevance - which is counter intuitive to the whole purpose of your post.

I didn't even know you could get the S4 in 64GB so soon. Some websites were saying that only the 16GB version is available right now. Or maybe they were talking about the US-variant.
I read somewhere that the octa-core version will get a software update which will increase performance by 10%. Here's the link; http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
On a blazing fast phone (which is blowing all the benchmarks out of the water), a 10% increase in performance is significant!!!

DeadSOL said:
I didn't even know you could get the S4 in 64GB so soon. Some websites were saying that only the 16GB version is available right now. Or maybe they were talking about the US-variant.
I read somewhere that the octa-core version will get a software update which will increase performance by 10%. Here's the link; http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
On a blazing fast phone (which is blowing all the benchmarks out of the water), a 10% increase in performance is significant!!!
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Technically you can already get that performance by using the A15s only.
My guess is that the performance improvement statement is rather a bad understanding of the graph, the point that they were trying to make is that HMP should bring the performance advantages of running solely on A15s at the reduced power consumption of CPU migration.
HMP should get the same full performance at 50% less power consumption, according to those figures and that specific scenario.
The author of the article was overreaching on his statement, it does not mean is a general improvement or a performance unlock.

I guess whatever the case, they'll certainly be bringing an increase in power. That's good news for all (those on the Snapdragon processor shouldn't complain since that is already quite fast)!

whiteblazer01 said:
I'm currenty in the USA, and travel internationally. I'd like to get the S4, but can't seem to find a source for an OEM, unlocked, 64GB Octo-core version. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? Some sites have the Octo-core but only 16GB, or they have the 64GB but only the quad-core. I'm not one to upgrade my phone every 2 weeks (sarcasm), so this will be an investment for me. No carrier-branded versions, or locked ROMs (I do flash my phones).
Thanks!
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But the octa core will not have lte. The only one that will the Korean version but the other octa cores won't have lte if you want lte then you need to get the snapdragon version.
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dante501 said:
But the octa core will not have lte. The only one that will the Korean version but the other octa cores won't have lte if you want lte then you need to get the snapdragon version.
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Is having LTE only a concern in the USA? How about Europe (outside GB) and Central America? If one travels and lives outside the USA, what would be recommended (for a 64GB Galaxy S4)? I realize this is an American based forum, but I also know there are a lot of people with insight into international phone variants, different frequency bands, and international carriers (which is not my area of expertise).

Just an update, I've contacted Negri Electronics and Expansys, (UnlockedMobiles and Handtec only seem to offer the 16GB version), as they seem to be the few websites that actually have the 64GB Octo-core unit on their website. Nobody seems to have this in stock, and they all say they're waiting on more information from Samsung regarding availability. So it seems a 64GB Octo-core GS4 is nowhere to be found.

Can i buy Samsung Galaxy s4 for 16K?

S4 is an old phone. I saw it today for the price of 16K in online site.
Is it good choice to buy that old phone for 16K?
Please advice
16K in Indian currency

A little high compared to prices on Swappa, but not bad. However, I don't believe you have access to Swappa in India so it's really not a bad deal.

If it is brand new, buy it otherwise not.
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myawan said:
If it is brand new, buy it otherwise not.
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I am planning to buy it from flipkart.
They have mentioned one year warranty for phone and six months for accessories.

If you have a warranty, ₹16000 (US$252.23) isn't bad at all. I'd get it, simply because it will be quite useful for several years to come, even with its older specs.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If you have a warranty, ₹16000 (US$252.23) isn't bad at all. I'd get it, simply because it will be quite useful for several years to come, even with its older specs.
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My friend is telling me that zenfone2 is best choice for this price range.
He said, the processor in India is exynos, not snapdragon.
Is exynos not a good processor?
I checked the details. It is octo core. Not eight cores work on the same time.
Please advice.

If the phone being offered is an I9505, then it has a quad-core Snapdragon processor. The I9500 is the one that has the Exynos processor. The I9505 has better custom ROM support, so it will be more likely to get the next version of Android when it's released, even if Samsung will no longer provide updates. So your friend is right, if the S4 being offered is an I9500. So what model number is the S4 you're looking at?

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If the phone being offered is an I9505, then it has a quad-core Snapdragon processor. The I9500 is the one that has the Exynos processor. The I9505 has better custom ROM support, so it will be more likely to get the next version of Android when it's released, even if Samsung will no longer provide updates. So your friend is right, if the S4 being offered is an I9500. So what model number is the S4 you're looking at?
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Sir,
This is the model id
Model ID GT-i9500DKYINU

Your friend, as I said, is right. The one thing he probably forgot to add is that the I9500 does not have LTE capability. In India I don't believe the lack of LTE matters at this time, but if traveling abroad, the LTE is a plus.