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Just read a tweet from Eldar murtazin, who is generally well informed, and today he wrote sonething very disturbing.
Samsung seems to have stopped the production on the wave and the galaxy s due to super amoled screen shortage.
This is nothing short of a disaster for all of us hoping to see the galaxy s being supported with froyo and beyond i guess. (or even cyanogenmod for that matter...)
I really hope this is just a temporarely thing, just as with the droid incedible....what do you guys think?
cant produce the phone when there is no screens for it... so ofc they will once they have a stock
In this case, sell the phone. No big deal.
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this is their best selling phone, and the only real competition againts iphone
i doubt they will stop producing it completely
it'll just be on hold until they get more stock of SAMOLED
they did the same to HTC Desire
but instead of waiting for new stock HTC decided to use another type of screen
as soon as HTC did the change the Desire suddently became less desirable
@allgamer
I hope you are right about that but this would explain why you cant find any SGS here in Edmonton or in Canada at all from what I understand which sucks if you brick and need replacement, etc.
Also, do you think that this issue will delay the FROYO release to those of us who already have the phone?
according to Eldar, they sold their last batch of SAMOLED screens to Apple, who is making a product for next year with our screens in it!
now, i really hate Apple!
they see that retina alone isn't enough, so close the deal with Sammy!
i hope this won't kill Samsungs ambitions to become the biggest brand above Nokia!
yes, they are mostly back ordered even in Toronto as well, the sales are good, it's like iphone always sold out.
froyo has nothing to do with the factory side
froyo will come when the coders are done fixing the bugs and get things working properly
Don't worry about it too much.. Apple has product shortages all the time. More screens will be made. Really, don't worry about it too much..
"ANYMORE" is not the word! Why make such confusion?
Its a break in production due to shortage of SAMOLED screens.
Rename topic PLX
andrewluecke said:
Don't worry about it too much.. Apple has product shortages all the time. More screens will be made. Really, don't worry about it too much..
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You actually believe that? Apple does it deliberately to make the product more desirable, simple as. They like to see people queueing up 12 hours before a product is launched outside of their shops, good publicity etc.
As the the Super AMOLED rumour, it is just that, a rumour, like most things I see written on the internet. Isn't it samsung who actually produce these screens? And there is a shortage? I dont buy it...
Then again though, I wouldnt trust samdung as far as I could throw them.
That would explain shortage of SGS in Poland.... Especially with one carrier that has best prices for it.... I'm searching this phone for about 1,5 months...
by the way, this can't be true anyways
else the new launch this month on Rogers network will fail completely if that was true
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792270
They will probably switch to the sony slcd screens
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then it'll be a waste, it'll go the way the Desire did, and it will cease to be a Galaxy S
it'll probably be released as a new model Galaxy sub S
nooomoto said:
They will probably switch to the sony slcd screens
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Have you seen a desire with the SLCD screen? I prefer them to the AMOLED ones, they are a genuine 480x800 resolution and look sharper, and the colours are not much different IMO. Apparently they are worse on battery power though, despite the claims to the contrary...
tameracingdriver said:
Have you seen a desire with the SLCD screen? I prefer them to the AMOLED ones, they are a genuine 480x800 resolution and look sharper, and the colours are not much different IMO. Apparently they are worse on battery power though, despite the claims to the contrary...
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AMOLED or SAMOLED? The AMOLED (like the Nexus One) are pretty disappointing in the long run, SAMOLED (like the Galaxy S) hasn't disappointed me even after a few months of owning it.
Isn't the real "strength" of the SAMOLED screen the contrast ratios and the inky blacks...? Will SLCD ever be able to match that because of the back or side lighting needed to actually illuminate the screen?
It's probably just a shortage, they couldn't keep up with HTC's demand for it, and they probably can;t keep up with their own...maybe they didn't truly believe the SGS would be such a success
Logicalstep
I was told from the importers/Saturn that Samsung Galaxy S were empty and Samsung are going to make more Samsung Galaxy S. They told me that people were crazy for Samsung Galaxy S and that's why the stock were empty.
the news and my phone store sources confirms the same, the SGS just sells really really good.
the 16 GB model is always the hardest to get, i did post a topic about it a while back
8 GB models are easier to find, but who would want less?
same reason why 8 GB are easier to find than the 16 GB models
now of course, for Cellphone carriers models those sizes are locked, you don't really get to chose
only the unlocked models you can choose to buy in 8 or 16
distortedloop said:
AMOLED or SAMOLED? The AMOLED (like the Nexus One) are pretty disappointing in the long run, SAMOLED (like the Galaxy S) hasn't disappointed me even after a few months of owning it.
Isn't the real "strength" of the SAMOLED screen the contrast ratios and the inky blacks...? Will SLCD ever be able to match that because of the back or side lighting needed to actually illuminate the screen?
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"Samsung's Super AMOLED is a variant of AMOLED technology in which the layer which detects touch is integrated into the touchscreen display rather than being overlaid on top. This results in a thinner device and improved outdoor performance."
LCD tech will never be able to match AMOLED blacks, but there's still the "issue" with PenTile RGBR matrix. Red font on black for instance? Looks horrible. Text in general is its achilles heel. Video, images (well, not B&W perhaps ) and graphics looks amazing though.
The Korean Digital Daily paper that often leaks insider info about its home turf electronics companies, today comes with something more about the internal struggles in Samsung regarding the Galaxy S III design.
The team wanted an entirely buttonless front, like on the Galaxy Nexus, and the whole design work revolved around it, almost until the final product was sent to the factories. A heated debate happened in the last minute, though, splitting the designers into two teams – one in favor of on-screen buttons only, something that can come standard with Android Ice Cream Sandwich, and the other asking for at least a physical home button, so the Galaxy S design line heritage is not lost completely.
In the end, a compromise seems to have been made, the bezel and button area beneath the screen shrunk, but the phone has been sent to the assembly lines with a rectangular home key instead of a completely buttonless design. Whether or not this is the case, we will see as early as next month, when the phone will be announced, says the source.
Another very interesting bit is Samsung’s reported decision to grace the Galaxy S III with a 5-row UI layout, like on the Galaxy Note phablet, instead of the usual four-row TouchWiz we had so far on the first two Galaxy S phones. The screen size, which is reported to be anywhere between 4.6-4.8″ would certainly warrant a good five-row experience, especially if the 720p Super AMOLED is with a normal RGB matrix for the first time, as rumored.
Last but not least, Samsung has allegedly been able to keep an Apple-style secrecy around the device, driving the whole tech blogosphere into a high-gear rumor mode, because it has supplied the carriers with a generic box that shows the screen and has openings to all the ports for access, but the true design remains hidden even from the testers, so nobody really knows how the thing will look like, a month and change before the supposed announcement.
Please post all rumors, speculation, news, etc about the successor to the Galaxy S II in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401781
Thanks
A couple weeks ago, some rumors started going around concerning a potential follow-up to Samsung’s Galaxy Note. These rumors suggested that the Note 2 would see its release in October of this year, but we weren’t convinced just how reliable that information might be, especially as it arrived accompanied by a lot of hardware specs that sounded like pure guesswork. Now a new rumor arrives making just a couple specific claims about the Note 2, including the use of one special component we’ve been hearing about for years.
Remember the flexible OLED display prototypes we keep seeing demoed at trade shows over and over? Supposedly, the Note 2 will employ one of the new unbreakable plane displays Samsung has been working on, based on this same technology. These are the sort of things we heard about with the company’s YOUM project, and are the first step towards full-on flexible screens, eliminating the glass layers used in standard OLED components and replacing them with polymer films.
Don’t look for the Note 2 to be a flexible phone, but as a result of using one of these new components, the display could be lighter and thinner than it might be with the sort of OLED screens already in use in smartphones. Considering the size of the Note (and presumably, the Note 2, as well), those savings should be well-appreciated if this news is true.
Source: MK Business News
Via: phoneArena
"According to the Korea Times, Samsung is trying to put a 6.3-inch display in the next iteration of the Galaxy Note. The Galaxy Note II, which launched relatively recently, debuted with a 5.5-inch display, already a step up from the original Note’s 5-inch screen....."
http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/13/bigger-is-better-samsung-will-allegedly-slap-a-6-3-display-on-the-galaxy-note-iii/
Are you going to buy it ?
P_
Nope.Too big. Also I would still be under contract
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
My thoughts exactly, 6.3" is way too big,
Had a Note 2 for a couple of days on a new contract and although you do get used to the screen size of the Note 2 pretty quick, I would not really be tempted to get anything bigger, really happy with the Note 2
Nope, 6.3 is a step, well 0.8 of a step too far. 5.5 is big but manageable.
Its bad enough holding the note 2 against your ear, may as well hold a laptop to your ear at 6.3"
I really hope that they dont go down that route
That's too big. If is flexible/bendable screen then I might consider it
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Actually, what they may do is have 2 versions of the Note III.... say a 5.5 (same size as the N2) and then a larger one for those that need the screen size but dont want to carry two devices around.... maybe those that use the data connectivity more than as a phone.
It's a rumor.
The title of this thread is misleading. Since it's an unsubstantiated rumor from a single source, the GN3 "may have" a 6.3" display. All the media outlets glommed on to a single paragraph buried at the end of a 16 paragraph long story on Samsung's overall LCD business. A 7" Note has already passed through various certification bodies and is likely to be launched in Q1 2013. Why would Samsung have three devices (5.5, 6.3, 7") so close together in size? Regardless of the display size, anything physically larger than the Note II would be almost impossible to use as a phone.
Here;s the entire article:
Samsung to reduce investment in LCD
By Kim Yoo-chul
Samsung Electronics is moving to reduce investment in its liquid crystal display (LCD) unit as the firm has shifted the focus of its screen business to organic light-emitting diode (OLED) and plastic-based flexible displays.
The move comes as the world’s biggest flat-screen manufacturer has realigned its business as the conventional global LCD industry is still facing higher panel supply due to an increase in retail inventories caused by a slowdown in consumer purchases amid the global economic uncertainty.
``The real problem is that major television markets like the United States remain sluggish. This is much worse than display-making manufacturers expected. In contrast, the demand for tablets is increasing and that market will see further explosive demand growth next year,’’ said one official from Samsung, requesting anonymity.
Rather than spending more on large-sized LCD screens, the display-making giant has sped up its move to shift some of its existing LCD lines for televisions to those better fitted for tablets. It plans to inject more cash in small, medium, and large-sized OLED screens.
``The global LCD industry is seeing signs of a major shift as Samsung is spending less on conventional LCDs. With money saved from LCD restructuring, the firm plans to spend more on OLED and flexible displays. Profitability is the top priority for Samsung’s display-making business next year,’’ said an executive from one of Samsung’s key local parts suppliers by telephone on Monday.
``Because the LCD industry is approaching full saturation, Samsung, as well as its biggest rival LG Display, is expected to lower investment for its LCD plant in southern China. The reason is simple. LCD is no longer a cash generator,’’ said another senior executive from a Samsung subcontractor.
As of the end of the first nine months of this year, Samsung invested 3.7 trillion won on displays including OLEDs and LCDs, according to figures that Samsung filed with the Korea Exchange (KRX). In January, Samsung said it planned to invest 6.6 trillion won in displays for 2012.
Market analysts and fund managers that put display-related stocks on their investment portfolios have no doubt that the company is going to restructure its money-losing LCD business to put more focus on OLEDs and flexible screens.
The latest data indicates that sales during typically strong third and fourth quarters in the United States, the single biggest market for flat-screen TVs, are suffering amid a slower-than-expected economic recovery.
``That’s why Samsung plans to cut its workforce at its LCD-making division capitalizing on ranking executives. The layoff portion would be around 7 to 8 percent of the total,’’ an industry source said asking not to be named.
Samsung is set to invest as much a 6 trillion won next year mainly for the promising screens. The source said the firm is going to allocate just some 1.8 trillion won for LCDs.
Samsung Electronics, the biggest shareholder of its display-making affiliate of Samsung Display, is pushing the sales of its OLED-embedded Web-connected Galaxy line of devices, meaning the group’s OLED business will receive more attention from top management and attract significantly-increased investment.
Samsung Electronics is working on the Galaxy SIV, which will be introduced in February’s Mobile World Congress (MWC). The Korea Times was the first to report the new Galaxy plan.
In a related note, the world’s biggest technology company has been developing the Galaxy Note III with a 6.3-inch screen using an OLED display, according to officials from a local parts suppliers, while the company will start the first commercial sale of 55-inch OLED TVs from late next year.
In a recent year-end reshuffle of top management, Samsung replaced the head of its display unit with technology expert Kim Ki-nam, a former chief of Samsung Technology Center.
``We can’t resist but to actively respond to the new market trend. We will invest in conventional LCDs. But the investment amount won’t be too high. Restructuring is under way.’’
I hope that by the next time I am buying a phone when my contract is up, we will be able to fold them into our pockets.
The perfect way to have a big screen and still have portability.
6.3 is insane.. I call BS
Bring it on, my hands are big enough. Real men with real hands need real devices.
Unsubstantiated rumour about a device that won't exist for at least 9 months? Why yes....
I heard the Note7 will be 6723.89 inches.
6.3"? Hell NO.
6.3" flexible? Might consider.
5.5" or same? Definitely YES.
5.5" is enough already, at least for my taste, and we don't need a screen size upgradation but other stuffs.
BarryH_GEG said:
The title of this thread is misleading. Since it's an unsubstantiated rumor from a single source, the GN3 "may have" a 6.3" display. All the media outlets glommed on to a single paragraph buried at the end of a 16 paragraph long story on Samsung's overall LCD business. A 7" Note has already passed through various certification bodies and is likely to be launched in Q1 2013. Why would Samsung have three devices (5.5, 6.3, 7") so close together in size? Regardless of the display size, anything physically larger than the Note II would be almost impossible to use as a phone.
Here;s the entire article:
Samsung to reduce investment in LCD
By Kim Yoo-chul
Samsung Electronics is moving to reduce investment in its liquid crystal display (LCD) unit as the firm has shifted the focus of its screen business to organic light-emitting diode (OLED) and plastic-based flexible displays.
The move comes as the world’s biggest flat-screen manufacturer has realigned its business as the conventional global LCD industry is still facing higher panel supply due to an increase in retail inventories caused by a slowdown in consumer purchases amid the global economic uncertainty.
``The real problem is that major television markets like the United States remain sluggish. This is much worse than display-making manufacturers expected. In contrast, the demand for tablets is increasing and that market will see further explosive demand growth next year,’’ said one official from Samsung, requesting anonymity.
Rather than spending more on large-sized LCD screens, the display-making giant has sped up its move to shift some of its existing LCD lines for televisions to those better fitted for tablets. It plans to inject more cash in small, medium, and large-sized OLED screens.
``The global LCD industry is seeing signs of a major shift as Samsung is spending less on conventional LCDs. With money saved from LCD restructuring, the firm plans to spend more on OLED and flexible displays. Profitability is the top priority for Samsung’s display-making business next year,’’ said an executive from one of Samsung’s key local parts suppliers by telephone on Monday.
``Because the LCD industry is approaching full saturation, Samsung, as well as its biggest rival LG Display, is expected to lower investment for its LCD plant in southern China. The reason is simple. LCD is no longer a cash generator,’’ said another senior executive from a Samsung subcontractor.
As of the end of the first nine months of this year, Samsung invested 3.7 trillion won on displays including OLEDs and LCDs, according to figures that Samsung filed with the Korea Exchange (KRX). In January, Samsung said it planned to invest 6.6 trillion won in displays for 2012.
Market analysts and fund managers that put display-related stocks on their investment portfolios have no doubt that the company is going to restructure its money-losing LCD business to put more focus on OLEDs and flexible screens.
The latest data indicates that sales during typically strong third and fourth quarters in the United States, the single biggest market for flat-screen TVs, are suffering amid a slower-than-expected economic recovery.
``That’s why Samsung plans to cut its workforce at its LCD-making division capitalizing on ranking executives. The layoff portion would be around 7 to 8 percent of the total,’’ an industry source said asking not to be named.
Samsung is set to invest as much a 6 trillion won next year mainly for the promising screens. The source said the firm is going to allocate just some 1.8 trillion won for LCDs.
Samsung Electronics, the biggest shareholder of its display-making affiliate of Samsung Display, is pushing the sales of its OLED-embedded Web-connected Galaxy line of devices, meaning the group’s OLED business will receive more attention from top management and attract significantly-increased investment.
Samsung Electronics is working on the Galaxy SIV, which will be introduced in February’s Mobile World Congress (MWC). The Korea Times was the first to report the new Galaxy plan.
In a related note, the world’s biggest technology company has been developing the Galaxy Note III with a 6.3-inch screen using an OLED display, according to officials from a local parts suppliers, while the company will start the first commercial sale of 55-inch OLED TVs from late next year.
In a recent year-end reshuffle of top management, Samsung replaced the head of its display unit with technology expert Kim Ki-nam, a former chief of Samsung Technology Center.
``We can’t resist but to actively respond to the new market trend. We will invest in conventional LCDs. But the investment amount won’t be too high. Restructuring is under way.’’
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Hi Barry, good to see you here. How's the yellow-tint-on-the-SGS2-thread going? Still full of nutjobs ?
Nope, the note 2 is my limit when comes to phone. So no way ill buy a phone bigger than a note 2. Samsung better not make a BIG mistake.
Galaxy tab 7 is a tablet but 6.3 is still a phone? I love my n2 but it isn't easy to carry, not really mobile. Bigger phone is as mobile as a tablet.
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It will be launched with a external mouse and keyboard 6,3 inch is too big for me to be honest.
If they manage to keep overall the same current size and make it even slimmer then why not?
Nope. Why would they make the Note 2 screen smaller than the original Note just to go bigger on the Note 3?
bengadget said:
Nope. Why would they make the Note 2 screen smaller than the original Note just to go bigger on the Note 3?
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Hmmm the screen on Note 2 is actually bigger than original Note..
Hyou mean "rumoured" to have a 6.3inch screen
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I ran across this earlier today and it seems like something Samsung would never think about doing. Do you think they would consider doing this? Wouldn't it make it harder for Samsung to achieve a good brand recognition and send Samsung back to where they were before the Galaxy S3 came out (when no one really knew what a Samsung phone looked like)? Would you buy a Samsung phone if they did this?
It's the carriers. I see almost no advertisements by them. Best example was when the phone first came out, I saw nothing by AT&T. I walked in and it seemed like it wasn't even launch day.
Selling a bunch of other models would be a bad choice in my opinion. Improving the build of their one flagship device might make a difference. I for one would like a strong mid-body that wont flex (lets make the phone a bit thicker, please). Perhaps a metal band around the phone (or at least nearby the glass, I already scuffed up the front plastic ring).
What I don't want is something like the GS4 Active, great concept that will work for some, but ugly and not simple.
If they can make their devices even more physically appealing and have the carriers push them more, they'll sell more. This phone is too much like the GS3 that is running for zero down.... or so it seems to most of the population, one that doesn't know what a Full HD Super AMOLED versus an HD Super AMOLED. One that sees the two and find the slightly smaller and lesser as a better buy.
Just my 2 cents.
my GF and i were discussing this earlier. from a marketing standpoint, we can see 3 variants working best (psychology and marketing background on her part), like the S4 active, S4 zoom, and S4 mini. i would actually roll the S4 into the Active, and make that the standard model. Turn the S4 mini into a 4.3" 720P with less sensors and detuned processor with 1.5GB of RAM and 8/16GB storage, apply the S4 mini specs to the S4 zoom, and then I would can the 'active' label, and make the IP67 rating standard on the 'flagship' model, throw in the missing sensors from the S4 proper, and there you have a more ideal lineup.
So basically...
S5 mini 720P with lower proc, ram, and storage aimed at women and sell it for $50 less
S5 Zoom with above stated specs for same as 'S5' price
S5 with max stats and IP67 rating.
AMOLED screens CAN be secured against water damage to IP67 specs.