SU problems after firmware update.. - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Just updated my S4 firmware via odin and now have all sorts of issues, SuperuserSU keeps telling me there is no Superuser binary installed and SuperuserSU can't install it, have tried numerous times re installing SuperuserSU with no luck at all, any suggestions?
Also I keep getting a system message saying "Prevention Information" SuperuserSU has been forced to stop for unauthoriszed attempt to acces system in your device.
Seems this new S4 firmware is a pain in the a**... Some help would be nice folks

germinus said:
Hi all,
Just updated my S4 firmware via odin and now have all sorts of issues, SuperuserSU keeps telling me there is no Superuser binary installed and SuperuserSU can't install it, have tried numerous times re installing SuperuserSU with no luck at all, any suggestions?
Also I keep getting a system message saying "Prevention Information" SuperuserSU has been forced to stop for unauthoriszed attempt to acces system in your device.
Seems this new S4 firmware is a pain in the a**... Some help would be nice folks
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If it's rooted try to uninstall Superuser and reinstall, if it doesn't work maybe you flashed a broken update?

BillvanHalen said:
If it's rooted try to uninstall Superuser and reinstall, if it doesn't work maybe you flashed a broken update?
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I have the same issue since the last update from Samsung and the update is not broken. I guess more that the problem is a not 100% working root on this new firmwares like MH5, MH8 and so on. I also installed the officel version from Samsung (MH%, MH( etc.) and with all versions i got the same problems. Root do not work 100% in all cases and at the beginning i also could not use su correct.
Could it be that Samsung made a strange step forward to kick us out of the system and that root maybe will be not so easy as in the past!?!? Apple say hello at Samsung or what
Greetings
s0uli

s0uli said:
I have the same issue since the last update from Samsung and the update is not broken. I guess more that the problem is a not 100% working root on this new firmwares like MH5, MH8 and so on. I also installed the officel version from Samsung (MH%, MH( etc.) and with all versions i got the same problems. Root do not work 100% in all cases and at the beginning i also could not use su correct.
Could it be that Samsung made a strange step forward to kick us out of the system and that root maybe will be not so easy as in the past!?!? Apple say hello at Samsung or what
Greetings
s0uli
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I got root working via cf auto root, however I can not seem to create a "virtual device" so I am going to flash a new rom and see if that helps, if not then I will be going back to an older version of the firmware!

germinus said:
I got root working via cf auto root, however I can not seem to create a "virtual device" so I am going to flash a new rom and see if that helps, if not then I will be going back to an older version of the firmware!
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not if you have the new bootloader you won't... You can't go to firmwares lower than the one which has the new bootloader. You are stuck with a large amount of people who also updated and now regret it...

ultramag69 said:
not if you have the new bootloader you won't... You can't go to firmwares lower than the one which has the new bootloader. You are stuck with a large amount of people who also updated and now regret it...
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Well I have just flashed an old ROM and all is good now

germinus said:
Well I have just flashed an old ROM and all is good now
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Please let me knolw which ROM you have installed because all my trys to go back to a older ROM ends in no sound or other bad troubles.
Thx
souli

germinus said:
Well I have just flashed an old ROM and all is good now
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Did the rom you flash have the new bootloader?
There have been a few released without KNOX or the bootloader and if you havern't actually upgraded the stock firmware you can go back to old firmwares...

ultramag69 said:
Did the rom you flash have the new bootloader?
There have been a few released without KNOX or the bootloader and if you havern't actually upgraded the stock firmware you can go back to old firmwares...
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It was the latest Omega rom.

germinus said:
It was the latest Omega rom.
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Yep, no new bootloader in that rom. If you had flashed the stock MI1 rom then it would have the new bootloader and you wouldn't be going to a lower firmware... It also has KNOX disabled or completely removed.
As for anyone who has upgraded the STOCK firmware to MI1 or MH8 then you can't downgrade the firmware by flashing through ODIN or CWM...

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problem with checking for updates after rooting

hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
nielsvg said:
hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
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When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
kaalalto said:
When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
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do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
nielsvg said:
do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
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No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
kaalalto said:
No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
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i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
nielsvg said:
i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
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Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the Samsung's OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) needs root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
kaalalto said:
Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) need root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
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one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
nielsvg said:
one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
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It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
nielsvg said:
It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
kaalalto said:
I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
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today my phone gave the notification of a new update. it can download it but when trying to install it it gives an error that it cant install it ota and i have to use kies?
i better didnt root because it is a phone of my employer
As you received your OTA file, everything is back to normal. However, sometimes OTA may not work correctly. You should then update with KIES or use Odin to flash the correct version.

[Q] want to Unroot but get this message sw rew. check fail :fused : 2 Binary : 1

after a couple of Fails rooting my Gs4
i thought let go back to stock !
but all that happens when i try to install the stock fw i get this
sw rew. check fail :fused : 2 Binary : 1
and then its over.
what have i done wrong ?
You're very unlucky.You have already update new bootloader by Samsung.
And currently can not going back Rom before.You can flash rom MH8 by ODIN
Thanks
ohh snap
that is bad
can you tell me what you mean by this
"You can flash rom MH8"
fordrykker said:
ohh snap
that is bad
can you tell me what you mean by this
"You can flash rom MH8"
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Samsung OTA'ed a few new roms, around the 4th of September. Unfortunately they supplied a new bootloader in the firmware updates that locked things down. You can't go back to lower firmware than the firmware on now. As it is the latest firmware you can't regress back to a lower version. MH8 is the best known version with the new bootloader but I have heard of other roms released around the same time, around the world, with different revision numbers, MGG may also be affected but not sure where....
If you have in fact got a new bootloader then you are in essence stuck with the new firmware until such time as it can be circumvented....
The new roms can be rooted however but you still can't flash an older rom on, not and expect it to work....
ultramag69 said:
Samsung OTA'ed a few new roms, around the 4th of September. Unfortunately they supplied a new bootloader in the firmware updates that locked things down. You can't go back to lower firmware than the firmware on now. As it is the latest firmware you can't regress back to a lower version. MH8 is the best known version with the new bootloader but I have heard of other roms released around the same time, around the world, with different revision numbers, MGG may also be affected but not sure where....
If you have in fact got a new bootloader then you are in essence stuck with the new firmware until such time as it can be circumvented....
The new roms can be rooted however but you still can't flash an older rom on, not and expect it to work....
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okay thanks for that info that helped me understand what went wrong..
now the question am i still able to root with other softwares?
fordrykker said:
okay thanks for that info that helped me understand what went wrong..
now the question am i still able to root with other softwares?
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From what I was reading MH8 was rootable using Chainfire's cf-aoturoot flashed via ODIN.
Thankyou Chainfire....
ultramag69 said:
From what I was reading MH8 was rootable using Chainfire's cf-aoturoot flashed via ODIN.
Thankyou Chainfire....
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yes but some apps have problems with root access on mh8 because of samsungs selinux=strict bullsh*t
om22 said:
yes but some apps have problems with root access on mh8 because of samsungs selinux=strict bullsh*t
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Yep, but then that's part of the new bootloader... Until it gets cracked so we can either replace it with an older bootloader or modified so it can be used, people who updated to the new bootloader will just have to live with it...
Yippee for you...:silly::crying:

Does a Rooted Note 3 get OTA Updates?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
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i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx
Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.
Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
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gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.
A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked
U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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Note 3 wont update to kitkat

Hey this is my first post and Im sorry if some of this is a repeat, I looked around for a little bit and wasnt able to find any answers.
I have a note 3 on verizon and i finally got it rooted on MJE. I have SuperSU installed as well as xposed installer as well as wanam xposed and a couple modules. I was trying to update via OTA and it constantly gives me error 402. I have tried hiding superuser and it says on odin? i believe that im on the offical rom and everything.
i just cant get onto kit kat no matter what i do. it downloads and once it tries updating i get the error.
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
Inovazn628 said:
Hey this is my first post and Im sorry if some of this is a repeat, I looked around for a little bit and wasnt able to find any answers.
I have a note 3 on verizon and i finally got it rooted on MJE. I have SuperSU installed as well as xposed installer as well as wanam xposed and a couple modules. I was trying to update via OTA and it constantly gives me error 402. I have tried hiding superuser and it says on odin? i believe that im on the offical rom and everything.
i just cant get onto kit kat no matter what i do. it downloads and once it tries updating i get the error.
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
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You need to be unrooted stock to accept the OTA. Currently no way to root the ota. However there is a kitkat build (nc2) that was rooted. This is the build that everyone is working off of, so you can just flash the firmware / nc2 rom and you will be on kitkat rooted.
Thanks for the reply!
I've heard of people still taking the Ota while keeping root by putting supersu on survival mode though. Should I check that off and then click unroot in Supersu to take the Ota? Thanks
sfld said:
You need to be unrooted stock to accept the OTA. Currently no way to root the ota. However there is a kitkat build (nc2) that was rooted. This is the build that everyone is working off of, so you can just flash the firmware / nc2 rom and you will be on kitkat rooted.
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You do NOT need to be unrooted, but you do need SuperSU to be in survival mode.
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donc113 said:
You do NOT need to be unrooted, but you do need SuperSU to be in survival mode.
Sent from my Note 3 via Tapatalk
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okay so whats seems to be the problem with my note 3 not updating then? Im pretty much lost haha. It reboots into recovery and then goes about 33% on updating before getting a error and restarting.
Inovazn628 said:
okay so whats seems to be the problem with my note 3 not updating then? Im pretty much lost haha. It reboots into recovery and then goes about 33% on updating before getting a error and restarting.
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Have you ever installed safestrap or anything similar?
Also remove all xposed modules, etc.
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Inovazn628 said:
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
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Try installing just the nc4 radio for xlte. Have you tried the leaked NC2 KK? I'd stay rooted personally ... samsung stuff has too much bloat and will run like a pig.
donc113 said:
Have you ever installed safestrap or anything similar?
Also remove all xposed modules, etc.
Sent from my Note 3 via Tapatalk
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Nope I just I have supersu. I disabled superuser and then I Uninstaller all the modules. I also uninstalled the framework for xposed. Is there anything else that could be causing it?
Inovazn628 said:
Nope I just I have supersu. I disabled superuser and then I Uninstaller all the modules. I also uninstalled the framework for xposed. Is there anything else that could be causing it?
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not that I know of.
You may have to reflash MJE and reroot it.
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[warning!!!] [psa] do not - *do not* root your phone if you want updates

A warning to all of you!
Now that T-Mobile has started soak tests for Android 5.1.1 for the S6, I went to the "Update" page in settings. I clicked update... and alas... it said my device has been modified in an "unauthorized way", and refused to update.
Hiding superuser from SuperSU's setting did nothing whatsoever. I have a custom kernel and I've rooted.
So a warning to all of you - don't root your phone if you want updates.
How is this new?
Sent from my SM-G925F
skivnit said:
How is this new?
Sent from my SM-G925F
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Lol
I believe you still can update your phone legibly through smart switch
or kies if you using older samsung device
So basically your saying its like it has been from the beginning? Say it aint so!!!
tusing said:
A warning to all of you!
Now that T-Mobile has started soak tests for Android 5.1.1 for the S6, I went to the "Update" page in settings. I clicked update... and alas... it said my device has been modified in an "unauthorized way", and refused to update.
Hiding superuser from SuperSU's setting did nothing whatsoever. I have a custom kernel and I've rooted.
So a warning to all of you - don't root your phone if you want updates.
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You need stock kernel briski
Odin
Stock kernel and stock recovery should be enough. Or flash the same ROM as you have on top on your current throught Odin, update and re-root. But I'm not sure that root is already available to 5.1.1
This apply to any brand root phone. No OTA will work with root phone, some more you in custom kernel.
Where could I get a stock kernel for Rogers mobile?
Actually anyone can still get ota normally if they just rooted their with everything stock kernel rom and so..
anonymousss said:
Actually anyone can still get ota normally if they just rooted their with everything stock kernel rom and so..
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I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
prking07 said:
I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
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Mine was fine with OTA after rooting, if you have an issue then just flash stock recovery back and you will be good to go and still have root!
prking07 said:
I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
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Oh.. how can u tell ? Have u received any ota and tried ?
anonymousss said:
Oh.. how can u tell ? Have u received any ota and tried ?
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Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
prking07 said:
Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
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Aha well the previous comment someone seems to have an ota with root no problems anyways..
prking07 said:
Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
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Then just re-flash stock recovery after rooting and you will be ok!!!
We all know that rooting borks the system files somehow as we all no longer have Deep Sleep after rooting so dropping stock recovery back resolved the issue for me and I no longer received the "modified" message when checking for updates. With TWRP recovery I do get the message. If that does not work for you then simply re-flash the stock rom, get your update (if any) and re-root if necessary.
chippyuk said:
Then just re-flash stock recovery after rooting and you will be ok!!!
We all know that rooting borks the system files somehow as we all no longer have Deep Sleep after rooting so dropping stock recovery back resolved the issue for me and I no longer received the "modified" message when checking for updates. With TWRP recovery I do get the message. If that does not work for you then simply re-flash the stock rom, get your update (if any) and re-root if necessary.
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Lot of conflicting info in this thread. I'm confused.
From what I understand, the latest Firmware update/OTA (OCF build, I am sprint) fixed the deep sleep issue. So if you have that build and applied root, you should still be good, right?
An if you apply root, you cant take an OTA because it modifies recovery. But you are saying if you root, then re-flash stock recovery, you maintain root and can still receive and OTA. Can someone confirm all this as accurate?
jazenf said:
Where could I get a stock kernel for Rogers mobile?
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You can get it from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
I've had a quick just around but can't find any info on the negatives of rooting the s6. What functionalities do you loose by rooting this phone even if you install a modified Samsung rom? I didn't get the z3 because once rooted you lost digital rights to the hi def audio and camera processing

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