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Hey guys,
I've got quite a problem: I've got an Magician now, and i'm thinking of buying an Universal. Will I be sorry for it, or be the happiest person on the planet?
The reason I want an Universal, is that the things I use my Magician for, MSN, internet, sending sms and sometimes a short call, is not really what it's meant for. Right now I'm using an SPECTEC SDIO, what means I can hardy download anything. Cause of the Qwerty keyboard, build-in WiFi and larger screen, I think that an Universal is the better choise. Am I thinking right, or are there better options to think of?
Thank you in advance..!
I went from a magician to the universal. The pros are the screen, combined with opera finally you have real internet and dont get me started on logmein . The keyboard is real handy too, this also has a downside, its so handy that all my text messages are two texts long cause the keyboard invites you to type more. A real downside is the size and weight. You cannot put the universal in your pocket (at least I cant). Also the battery life is not that good. I always carry an external accu on penlites for emergencies.
It really depends how you will use it, if you're gonna use it as a phone, stick with the magician, if you're gonna use it as a mini laptop, buy it asap.
And change provider to T-mobile because they offer unlimited data-plan for EUR 9,50 ;-) Because of the unlimited data and UMTS I hardly use WiFi, too much hassle, too much battery drain and too little speed gain compared to UMTS.
You might want to hold off just a bit, I believe the HTC TyTN (Or Hermes) is coming your way in just a few weeks. Do a google search on it if you're not familiar with it, on paper it's almost the perfect phone.
If all else fails, or if you really like the Universal's platform (Clamshell, swivel screen tablet) it's one wicked phone My favorite phone so far. :lol:
That Hermes has the same look as the Wizard, and that's exactly what I'm not looking for. I use my magician to type long pieces of text, and I think the keys are way to small to do that. And ain't it so, that it has an 2.8" screen?
And Kassad, I think T-Mobile Web 'n Walk (Pocket Internet Totaal) is way to slow. With my Magician the internet speed at home stops at 300 kilibyte per second, and I'm still anoyed when I try downloading an MP3file with my phone. (I know, 1meg a second makes people spoiled.. :wink: )
I think when I'm back from vacation I've sold my Magician and the money is there to get my Universal.. (You all don't know one thing about me.. I'm 13.. )
I think universal has everything on it, the keypd is really makes me more typin, and ofcourse UMTS is more benefitial for downloading data quicker.
Battery drain is not a problem if you use it wisely, well weight is a bit prob but it is alright for me :wink:
Michel92 said:
That Hermes has the same look as the Wizard, and that's exactly what I'm not looking for. I use my magician to type long pieces of text, and I think the keys are way to small to do that. And ain't it so, that it has an 2.8" screen?
And Kassad, I think T-Mobile Web 'n Walk (Pocket Internet Totaal) is way to slow. With my Magician the internet speed at home stops at 300 kilibyte per second, and I'm still anoyed when I try downloading an MP3file with my phone. (I know, 1meg a second makes people spoiled.. :wink: )
I think when I'm back from vacation I've sold my Magician and the money is there to get my Universal.. (You all don't know one thing about me.. I'm 13.. )
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Web'n'Walk works at 320 Kb/s for me, so I'm quite happy with the speed. And when I need it, I can connect to an WiFi accespoint and get a working 1,6 Mb/s
Sorry guyss.. I was about 10000 kilometers away.. Had a great holiday.. Butt.. Haven't got any phone at the moment.. So I used an old Samsung.. But forgot it was not a Tri-band phonee.. But.. Now I've got the money for an Universal.. Almost.. Spended wayyyy to much in Sri Lanka.. So I bought an few Nokia Chargers there..*Really cheap....* So I can sell them heree.. So0w I can add that to my Universal savings.. Also have to sell an Spectec wifi-card.. So it ain't going to be a problem.. Now I've got to find one I like..
I have magician too,and I'm going to buy Universal.Can anybody specificates the duration of the battery in the different situation(phone,navigator,pda)?And which is the range of the wi-fi connection?
nobody can help me?
zanfo said:
I have magician too,and I'm going to buy Universal.Can anybody specificates the duration of the battery in the different situation(phone,navigator,pda)?And which is the range of the wi-fi connection?
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i think the battery is quite good, disagreeing with the complaints on it. even so, i bought a second battery, very cheap and came with its own external batt charger woo hoo. but i bought it only because i'm a battery maniac
you can also get loads of extended batteries for cheap, 3000, 3200, 3800, 4400, 4800 mAh.. the 3000 and 3200 ones are quite cheap and readily available.
if you just use it as a phone, with the 1620 mAh default battery, and have the brightness at 10% (i always have it at 10% because it is bright enough even at that level! seriously 100% brightness burns my eyes ok outdoors i sometimes crank it up to 40%), then i *think* you can use it for two or three days or if you make too many calls it will still probably last 1 day easily. i dunno, i never make calls, just write a lot of sms's.
if you use it as a pda, at the same brightness, and you read ebooks, at 10% it will last 8 hours easily (with phone turned on most of the time). normal pda usage (with some wifi and umts), 4-5 hours; umts (continuous), 3-4 hours; wifi (continuous) 3. these are estimates from my experience.
oh and dunno about navigation. i don't use it for that.
finally, wifi range is average, it is ok in most situations.
did this help?
There are a lot of things to like and a lot of things to dislike about the Universal. The ones that I dont like are:
Battery Life... used to be around 7/8 hours when I first bought it 7 months ago, now its down to 3 hours. But I do make a fair number of calls on it. Even then, the battery life is horrible. 3 hours is a joke and the battery now crashes at 60%.
Bulk: Its a bulky phone, not easy to fit in your pocket, not easy to carry around. Remember, size matters ;-)
Slow: Load a few today programmes and its slow. Compared to my earlier XDA II, its about 60% as fast. On the XDA, everthing was instantaneous, here I have to wait for an application to open. Probably due to the miniscule memory in the phone.
Reception: Signal strength is not on par with most phones but that is true of the XDA too so guess its a HTC issue. Nokia with the same sim card will show full signal and with the Universal, its at least one bar less all the time.
Just few pet peeves........
If I were to do it all over again, I have to confess that I wouldn't buy the Universal.
Cheers, Vikas.
well, buy a new battery, very cheap on ebay & dont use crappy today plugins, i don't and my universal is fast. i do have a today plugin but it is simple and doesn't consume any resources.
maybe this could help..
but the universal is primarily for those who appreciate this form factor. IMO i love the form factor
I decided: It'll be an Wizard.. Think the Universal maybe really is to big for me, I tried one in a phone shop, but didn't manage to get it into my pocket. Than I would always have to carry a bag with me, which won't be any of a problem going to school.. But that's not the only thing in life.. :roll: A wizard can't be any problem, because it is not that much bigger than the magician I had. Now I'm looking for an wizard.. 150euros.. Offers, someone....? Only in the Netherlands, taxes are way to high from foreign countries.
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Battery Life... used to be around 7/8 hours when I first bought it 7 months ago, now its down to 3 hours. But I do make a fair number of calls on it. Even then, the battery life is horrible. 3 hours is a joke and the battery now crashes at 60%
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I guess you have not used the battery properly or you have done something that has caused the battery to malfunction
Bulk: Its a bulky phone, not easy to fit in your pocket, not easy to carry around. Remember, size matters ;-)
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Yes, it is bulky but then, does any other phone offers you VGA display ?? Nope. You want big screen, keyboard too,then, why yammer about the size :evil:
Slow: Load a few today programmes and its slow. Compared to my earlier XDA II, its about 60% as fast. On the XDA, everthing was instantaneous, here I have to wait for an application to open. Probably due to the miniscule memory in the phone.
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Mine is very fast. It depends how you have set up your pocket pc. If you use awful apps like spb P+ which make you PPC crawl and use their memory hungry plugins then why r u complaining about the speed bro
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Reception: Signal strength is not on par with most phones but that is true of the XDA too so guess its a HTC issue. Nokia with the same sim card will show full signal and with the Universal, its at least one bar less all the time.
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Are you using the latest radio ROM ?? I too live in new delhi and the signal is great !!
hi kdskamal,
i was wondering what you use in the place of today plugins like P+.. i find it quite hard to replace and have been living with the speed of my Universal.. but i'd love to hear alternatives..
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hi kdskamal,
i was wondering what you use in the place of today plugins like P+.. i find it quite hard to replace and have been living with the speed of my Universal.. but i'd love to hear alternatives..
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well, depends on what features you use from spb+. i just need a taskmanager which has a better close button than spb (spb is so stupid) and one that doesn't slow the device down so much.. so i found magicbuttons which is free and consumes very little resources. and it even puts icons of the running programs on the "taskbar".
i also needed a battery meter: magicbuttons takes care of this with the help of uptime.
if you need a PIE plugin, there are alternatives again, but i don't use PIE so i can only quote their names, multiie, pieplus, ftxpbrowser (latter is free). but opera is much better
that's all i can say for now, but let us know what other features you need.
finally I buy the universal!I immaginate it less heavy,but it's ok.
Today I use it for 2 hours as navigator,2 short calls,and the battery is at 32%(total time used 3 hours).Is it normal?
Does anybody know which is the latest italian rom?I have 1.13
zanfo said:
finally I buy the universal!I immaginate it less heavy,but it's ok.
Today I use it for 2 hours as navigator,2 short calls,and the battery is at 32%(total time used 3 hours).Is it normal?
Does anybody know which is the latest italian rom?I have 1.13
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try decreasing the brightness! as i said i have mine on 10% of brightness (backlight). this will surely help. and 10% is always enough. 40% is more comfortable outdoors on a sunny day but 10% is still very good even then as this is a transflective screen, not transmissive. 8)
anyway your usage means 4 hours of battery life, it is not bad.
(oh and don't try 0% it means backlight off, unusable)
I already follow your suggest!
How many free ram have you after hard reset?And which rom do you use?
I thing I have to buy a bigger battery!
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hi kdskamal,
i was wondering what you use in the place of today plugins like P+.. i find it quite hard to replace and have been living with the speed of my Universal.. but i'd love to hear alternatives..
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For today plugins, you can try iLauncher from sbsh.net
http://www.sbsh.net/products/ilauncher/
something extra:I use handy switcher for task switching. I have assigned my video call button to this app. It can also close the apps without touching the stylus. On top of that, it just occupies 60kb.
For the past 4 weeks I had HTC send me 2 replacement batteries and T-mobile sent me two replacement phones (one with a new battery), and my phone still overheats (over 100 degrees).
I swaping all my microsdhc and even took it out, and did notsolve the problem either.
The only thing left is the Sim card. Is it possible for a sim card to cause this? This is getting extremely frustrating.
The good thing is both HTC and TMobile have been really understanding, if not...I would be on other carrier with a different phone.
Jason
The sim is just a storage chip with a tiny amount of data on.. it doesn't actively do anything. It must be caused by something else.. is your phone overheating while charging or connected by usb, or does it happen all the time?
Only when I use the phone (talk, gps, edge, or wifi...FYI, I'm only running one at a time) it overheats.
Anyway, I just got my new sim and the back looks differnet than the one I got in November.
I have to say my phone runs cooler w/o the sim.
If you want to monitor the temp of your phone, download the Y-mobile "My Account" from the market, and check the battery status.
Jason
My phone is always over 100 degrees F, right now it's 102 and reaches over 112 easily
It seems pretty normal to me, the phone never shuts off or anything
My biggest regret is how slow this stupid thing is, you figure it being able to cook eggs would mean it's got some nice horsepower but this thing makes me wish I waited for the new palm OS
My phone is always over 100 degrees F, right now it's 102 and reaches over 112 easily
It seems pretty normal to me, the phone never shuts off or anything
My biggest regret is how slow this stupid thing is, you figure it being able to cook eggs would mean it's got some nice horsepower but this thing makes me wish I waited for the new palm OS
It also LOVES to double post as you can see
That's a triple post.....
Nah, I made that last post afterwards I didn't edit the post, although I wouldn't be surprised to hit a triple or even the elusive "super-quad" with this dumb thing
same problem here
I was going through the same thing. I mostly ran into this when I was using my fone as a thether. I kinda got worried so I contacted tmo andhtc and they said that it will get hot like that because of the wifi running as well as my screen never timing out. To top it all I was tethering through the usb. So it easly ran up to 115F. When it got that high I would jus bull out the battery and leave the back off for about 5 mins. If u run into this issue while ur fone is doing little or no activity then worry but if ur using data or multiple apps at once then its no biggie.
Aw jeez, I went to check setcpu and my post went bye bye
So a high temp all the time ISN'T normal?
I got:
JF 1.51 ADP
SetCPU 128/528
Advanced Task Manager, and I tend to keep everything killed besides aHome and Better Keyboard
I don't see any problems besides it giving me third degree burns and setting whatever I place it on on fire, goes slow hot or cold too
SetCPU
128/528 is a big jump, why not use default 384/528? Might help some of your performance issues.
Just a thought.
I thought it scaled itself accordingly and only went to 128 when I'm not running anything or the screen's off to save battery?
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I thought it scaled itself accordingly and only went to 128 when I'm not running anything or the screen's off to save battery?
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It doesnt scale instantly.. cyanogen's done some init.rc mods to help this in his newer builds but theres always a reaction time between opening an app and the speed ramping up.
My properly configured g1 is pretty damn fast for a mobile device.. It sounds like you're ranting on about a problem you caused through lack of research. Good work.
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... makes me wish I waited for the new palm OS
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What new palmOS?
PalmOS is dead and isn't coming back unless someone picks up Access Linux (which is said to have a palmOS Garnet 6 VM only for legacy palmOS support), but that doesn't seem likely as they've been pushing it as stable for years and have yet to sell it to anybody. It is now also pointless to support legacy palmos apps since *virtually nobody* has been developing for that platform since it died a few years ago.
This new thing that palm is selling... is not palmos. Its "webos" and is basically what apple phone v1 was and what chromeos sounds like it will be... i.e. no locally installed apps (except phone stuff) - all apps are net apps.
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The sim is just a storage chip with a tiny amount of data on.. it doesn't actively do anything.
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While I doubt it's the cause of the overheating, SIM chips are more than just passive storage. They do contain processors and can perform calculations (one of the main functions of SIMs in phones is to provide cryptographic computation for network access.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_card
My phone only gets warm when I'm tethering, charging or downloading large files over 3G.
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It doesnt scale instantly.. cyanogen's done some init.rc mods to help this in his newer builds but theres always a reaction time between opening an app and the speed ramping up.
My properly configured g1 is pretty damn fast for a mobile device.. It sounds like you're ranting on about a problem you caused through lack of research. Good work.
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I actually leave my house now and then, so I rely on people like you to help me while throwing in a snotty comment at the end with these kinds of things because they bore me GOOD WORK THANKS
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What new palmOS?
PalmOS is dead and isn't coming back unless someone picks up Access Linux (which is said to have a palmOS Garnet 6 VM only for legacy palmOS support), but that doesn't seem likely as they've been pushing it as stable for years and have yet to sell it to anybody. It is now also pointless to support legacy palmos apps since *virtually nobody* has been developing for that platform since it died a few years ago.
This new thing that palm is selling... is not palmos. Its "webos" and is basically what apple phone v1 was and what chromeos sounds like it will be... i.e. no locally installed apps (except phone stuff) - all apps are net apps.
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Oh for real? The hell with that, I'll take android's poopified linux over that junk any day
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I actually leave my house now and then, so I rely on people like you to help me while throwing in a snotty comment at the end with these kinds of things because they bore me GOOD WORK THANKS
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Ha. Snotty comments are the price you pay for getting help from geeks.
Enjoy the outside world.. I'll just sit here getting progressively more pale-skinned and bitter as I cry into my coffee about my ever worsening social isolation, dolefully masturbating into an old sock over thoughts of the ladies nipples I'll never see. Because that's what we do.
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I actually leave my house now and then, so I rely on people like you to help me while throwing in a snotty comment at the end with these kinds of things because they bore me GOOD WORK THANKS
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The snide comments are like little genuine seal of approvals that guarantee a real certified geek posted your reply. Let's compare a certified geek reply with an off-brand imposter:
The question:
I just upgraded from JF to Cyanogen but my G1 won't boot past the loading screen. HELP!
Geek Reply:
Reboot into recovery and wipe. And learn to search; this problem has been posted in the FAQ and many previous threads. Also I hope you get hit by a bus so the average aggregate human intelligence increases. <-- unbearably high pretentiousness authenticates the quality of the Geek reply.
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Non-geek reply:
Lulz i had dis problem to. I just thru my laem g1 away and got iphone 3G!
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Overheating
My phone got up to 102 once. It was from having it set at 583 MHz constant. I took it out of my pocket and almost dropped it because it was hot. Also as someone said earlier, it gets very hot while tethering. Any prolonged data use will cause it to heat up. I don't think it's really anything to worry about though. I'd imagine that it would cut off before any sort of damage could occur
I got my Vibrant yesterday and (of course) had to use it right away. The battery went down to the point of getting the popup notification (that is at 15% i believe?) and after that, I tried to open/play with the camera -- but instead was greeted with a prompt informing me my battery was low and my only option was "close" - there was no way to just say YEAH, I KNOW, LET ME USE MY [email protected][email protected] CAMERA!
..... any way to disable this? get around it somehow? Sorry Samsung, but if I want to use my camera, I WANT TO USE MY CAMERA. I don't care that the battery is low!
Every smartphone I've ever used for the past 7 years won't allow you to use certain functions if the battery is too low, to allot resources to more important processes.
Never had this problem on any other device (including G1). :\
I can't reproduce it right now, but it has a power saving mode. Go to Settings > Sound and Display, then scroll all the way down. It's the second last item. Uncheck it and see if that fixes it.
Just test on low battery and no the power saving mode doesn't let you take pictures.
Nope, I turned Power Saving off when I was going through settings yesterday, so that isn't what is causing me to get locked out of the camera.
Semi-solution: downloaded a 3rd party camera app from market (snapphoto pro which i had already purchased on my old phone anyways) which will let me use it, so at least i have camera functionality even if battery is low, but i'd still prefer to turn that.... um... "feature" off.
+1 on this "feature" its pretty crippling, not only does the camera not work but it also seems to turn your brightness down, also I don't think it will let you watch videos. C'mon samsung.
I understand the feature of it popping up a warning like "hey, maybe you should rethink this... " but to actually completely disable it is annoying. :\
Indeed, hopefully Sammy will 'fix' this with the 2.2 update.
-bZj
I agree it ridiculous, we should have the option to continue rather than lock us out. I tried watching a video and its not letting me.
Indeed, if I'm on a flight and want to burn my battery completely, I want that option.
-bZj
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It won't let you watch a movie on low battery either. I ran into that yesterday.
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What a crock... I am trying to run out my battery and video, which sucks battery nicely, is denied.
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What a crock... I am trying to run out my battery and video, which sucks battery nicely, is denied.
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That's exactly what I was trying to do...
Doesn't play music either. That's ridiculous.
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I was trying to drain the battery as well, like someone said before 3rd party apps will work. I installed the RockPlayerBase Beta to burn my battery to 0 by playing videos . . .
Btt.
I'd really love to see a fix for this. Anybody have anything?
Thanks
This isn't anything new from Samsung or many other phone manufacturers. My current G600 slider that is 3 years old does the same thing. Better to still have basic phone functions and SOS for the remaining battery than to end up taking a few snapshots and find a dead phone seconds later. It may seem like they are locking you out of your phone, but in reality the lashback from average joes complaining about their phone dying when they were trying to call 911 after a hit and run accident in the middle of nowhere can justify this "feature".
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This isn't anything new from Samsung or many other phone manufacturers. My current G600 slider that is 3 years old does the same thing. Better to still have basic phone functions and SOS for the remaining battery than to end up taking a few snapshots and find a dead phone seconds later. It may seem like they are locking you out of your phone, but in reality the lashback from average joes complaining about their phone dying when they were trying to call 911 after a hit and run accident in the middle of nowhere can justify this "feature".
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I understand your argument, but the entire focus of these forums is to change things we don't like or add new things on our phones.
You could extend the argument that "lots of other phones do this" to any number of annoying "features" that have been modded or hacked.
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This isn't anything new from Samsung or many other phone manufacturers. My current G600 slider that is 3 years old does the same thing. Better to still have basic phone functions and SOS for the remaining battery than to end up taking a few snapshots and find a dead phone seconds later. It may seem like they are locking you out of your phone, but in reality the lashback from average joes complaining about their phone dying when they were trying to call 911 after a hit and run accident in the middle of nowhere can justify this "feature".
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On the otherside, as someone mentioned if I'm on a flight watching a movie, I want to burn out the battery. Or I'm in a car accident and I need to quickly take pictures for insurance, I'd rather use that battery power. Basically, it's a nanny feature that many of us don't want. That's pretty much the point of these forums.
I'm thinking of getting this amazing phone, but would like to find out what it's really like from you guys first before I make the purchase.
Well i loved it in the beginning, then after all the problems and issues such as lags, hangs, and GPS crap, i sold the phone. But since then I've been looking at other Android smart phones and none of them seem to be better currently.
So, I think i made the right choice by selling the phone (i sold it at a profit of US$100) now ....
then a few months later i will recheck if Samsung has fixed all these problems.. If they have, then i would repurchase the phone, and i'm sure at that time the price has dropped by quite a bit....
I just can't afford using a phone that gives all these problems at the moment.....
If samsung cannot fixe all these problems in the future then i'll choose something else....maybe 3 months from now there will be a pletora of good android smartphones....
Buying the phone right now would be unwise since you will be paying high price only to have to install this and that fixes and patches and hacks and what not in order to fix the all the bugs that samsung hasnt ironed out since launching the phone. Unless of course, that is your hobby....
But for me, if i had to do all these things with the phone, i wanna get paid by samsung.... not the other way around.....
I've got the Tmobile USA Vibrant version. I don't think the problems that are being reported are as prevalent as people might think - I believe that folks that aren't having any problems are not bothering to come to these forums on the web, researching issues, so who you see reporting problems are folks that are having issues, looking for solutions
there's also a certain percentage that are researching tips, improvements, shortcuts or tweaks (which is why i'm on the web).
My vibrant's gps is actually showing incredible accuracy, better than my MyTouch 3g and than my 2 yr old garmin nuvi 680 indoors where neither would show any satellites and the vibrant does, and outside it's faster than the garmin nuvi in calculating / recalulating but i suspect the A-GPS plays a major part in that.
the signal "issue" is a prime example of folks imagining an issue where there isn't one (think about it, the signal bars are reporting signal strength on the weak side and then when you choke the phone in the "death grip" it further degrades the displayed signal strength, but phone calls for the most part aren't dropping. That death grip is like putting your phone inside a metal soup can, and then wondering why signal dropped. Mine will show the weak signal when i death grip it but is still pulling 3G (at increased download speeds over my MyTouch 3G/HTC Magic) in a weak Tmobile coverage area
I've got no lag issues - but i haven't downloaded but a few apps, about 10, no task killers, and i really haven't used any of the samsung apps, as folks are reporting those seem to invite lag
for what it's worth, I'm extremely happy with this phone's performance.
I absolutely love mine. First smartphone, great GPS, good battery life, great apps, awesome screen, I can't put it down and I've had it for over a week.
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I've got the Tmobile USA Vibrant version. I don't think the problems that are being reported are as prevalent as people might think - I believe that folks that aren't having any problems are not bothering to come to these forums on the web, researching issues, so who you see reporting problems are folks that are having issues, looking for solutions
there's also a certain percentage that are researching tips, improvements, shortcuts or tweaks (which is why i'm on the web).
the signal "issue" is a prime example of folks imagining an issue where there isn't one (think about it, the signal bars are reporting signal strength on the weak side and then when you choke the phone in the "death grip" it further degrades the displayed signal strength, but phone calls for the most part aren't dropping. That death grip is like putting your phone inside a metal soup can, and then wondering why signal dropped. Mine will show the weak signal when i death grip it but is still pulling 3G (at increased download speeds over my MyTouch 3G/HTC Magic) in a weak Tmobile coverage area
I've got no lag issues - but i haven't downloaded but a few apps, about 10, no task killers, and i really haven't used any of the samsung apps, as folks are reporting those seem to invite lag
for what it's worth, I'm extremely happy with this phone's performance.
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I think you're right in your assessment of new people coming to forums and what not. It's a biased sample for sure, personally, I was waiting to get on device where I actually had a reason to be here, this is it. So, while I didn't come to fix issues, I have learned a fair share and helped out a bit.
I'm upto 150+ apps showing in LauncherPro drawer, this includes some factory installed items and doesn't include all of my widgets (I keep two running at all times) and other things. My main lag only occurs during software installs, other than that everything else feels blazingly fast.
Really like this phone. After suffering the window mobile, this is definitely a great phone to have.
Its this or iphone. I have use iphone and I don't miss it one bit.
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I am in same boat the OP, I am close to getting it, but what I am hearing is a somewhat mixed bag. Really would love to heard the good and the bad about the phone.
So far the biggest gripes I have come across are lack of notification light (I would miss that), lag on the other hand fix makes it even faster , lack of camera flash. But i really like what I have seen what the Hummingbird can do..
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I am in same boat the OP, I am close to getting it, but what I am hearing is a somewhat mixed bag. Really would love to heard the good and the bad about the phone.
So far the biggest gripes I have come across are lack of notification light (I would miss that), lag on the other hand fix makes it even faster , lack of camera flash. But i really like what I have seen what the Hummingbird can do..
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Here's a good write-up of "the good and the bad" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730131
The poll thus far seems fairly conclusive though.
bottom line is that if you are prepared to do a little customising then it can be the best phone out there atm (and lets face it why go android if you dont want to customise? thats what the iphones for right?...)
its only going to get better too as time goes on.
JF3 firmware out of the box and you may run into a couple of problems.
I own mine now for about 3 weeks and over all i heavy use it, my girl friend tells me that i touch my phone more often and tender then her which i think its an indicator of how much i love my Phone, even for native Xvid Support.
But of course there are thinks i really dont like at the Phone. I have much lags, but i also use much and diffarent kind of software at the same time. So maybe i have lesser lags if i dont use the phone like a Hardcore Home PC.
But there is one kind i think its an Knock Out Death Reason to not buy.the Phone before these Bug isnt fixed in an Newer Original Samsung FW.
The Timestamps of the Digital Camera are not written on File System layer. Of corse the are correctly written into EXIf and the digital image where named to the exact TimeStamp, but no attributes in the Fat are written. So if you organize your Pictures on a Nas, you can run into really big troubles.
But i hope thes issue will fixed in the next FW update.
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I'm loving mine, though it really did need to be rooted and the minfree* settings tweaked, the defaults are very bad - Samsung should be fixing this in the new firmware for all devices though. I have very few issues with the device and things I thought were potential problems before I bought it have turned out to be less so.
- Lack of search button/it's integration into the menu button is fine - I was worried because I used menu longpress to hide/show the keyboard a lot on my magic but no apps I'm using require this anymore since most android devices are keyboardless, this used to be fairly necessary when a lot of apps were developed on the G1. If you voice search with longpress of search on other devices a lot it could be an issue for you though.
- Plasticy feel/design of the back, it's nicer than it looks, feels solid despite being light and I'll be putting a resin case over it which disguises most of the horrible iphone 3G derived elements of the hardware anyway.
- Samsung customisation is actually quite nice once you've installed ADW launcher, I like the wifi/bt switches in the notification tray and the media player/in call controls that appear in there when those are active, it's a crying shame there's no widget for the media player though. Your tastes may differ but overall I think most of the customisations are good - with very noticeable exception of the homescreen.
* see here for an explanation, the default for EMPTY_APP and CONTENT_PROVIDER is some figure under 30MB, bump them up to 60 and 50 respectively and the phone runs brilliantly.
the greatest phone i've had to date, it's like a gameboy+office+email+movieplayer+mp3player+photoalbum+GPS+laptop+renote+terminal+web+wifi+bluetooth+phone, in 1 tiny little package
it sure beats my old HTC Athena in quality and speed, weight, durability, ease of use, amount of hacks and accessories for it
Had my UK spec galaxy for about a month. Not had any of the reported issues. Gps is great. Had 16 feet accuracy last night. Very little lag. Only when launching an app for the first time. Have zero regrets getting it. At least 3 other people have got one after seeing mine and they love it too. Highly recommended. Froyo will be amazing. But its the best out there even without it.
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Yes, I freaking love it.
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Yes, I freaking love it.
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LOL reminds me of the McDonald Ads "i'm Loving It! ta ta da ta ta . . ."
Or who the German Maci says : Ich liebe es! Lol
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No, not very happy with it.
It's my first Android headset, I sold my 3GS to my sister figuring I'd finally give Android a chance. The homescreen is nice, notification system is brilliant and so on. But the system has a couple of major flaws...
It's just not as smooth, as easy to use or as elegant as iOS4. There's lag, the market is absolutely horrendous and Fring managed to break the camera so I had to uninstall that to get it back. I don't know what the eff Google are doing, but they need to bring the full marketplace to all countries. But even then, it's not very impressive. Yes I've rooted mine, yes I have market enabler, and it feels wrong. I should not have to do that just to get access to the rest of the market.
And this is, in my opinion, the biggest issue with Android today. I tried to find an app as good as AutoStitch or Pano for Android, but no, there is no such thing in the store. I tried to find a couple of high-quality games, I couldn't find any. I want Let's Golf 2, Worms and many others on this thing. I tried to find a photo editor comparable to PhotoForge and PhotoGene, or something similar to ColorSplash, and again, no. And what about synthesizers, virtual guitars and other fun apps? Haven't seen any.
This phone got me excited, but then I just realised... What's the point? All that power, but nothing is using it. All that power, and we still have lag all over the OS.
I'm sure people are going to hate me for this, but I am a bit disappointed by both the phone and the OS. I do have high hopes for Froyo, but flash support and a snappier OS probably won't be enough for me to keep it. I have bought over a hundred apps on my old 3GS, and I think I'd like those back now.
EDIT: If you think I'm wrong, if you have found the apps I'm looking for then by all means link me to them. I want to like this thing, I really do.
i like PhotoStitch, i keep a copy with me
Asphalt 5 is great, i consider that a quality game
Lets Golf 1 is also available
heck they even have my favourite Bejewled 1
they might not have version 2 of the software, but it will come soon.
Android is fairly new, it's only on version 2
there was not many apps nor games until Android 1.5 got matured.
Iphone OS is at least 2 version ahead of Android, give it some time for it to mature, and you'll see the big picture.
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i like PhotoStitch, i keep a copy with me
Asphalt 5 is great, i consider that a quality game
Lets Golf 1 is also available
heck they even have my favourite Bejewled 1
they might not have version 2 of the software, but it will come soon.
Android is fairly new, it's only on version 2
there was not many apps nor games until Android 1.5 got matured.
Iphone OS is at least 2 version ahead of Android, give it some time for it to mature, and you'll see the big picture.
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Oh yeah I have Let's Golf, bought that in Gameloft's own store. Very nice.
As for the rest, not a big fan of racing games I'm afraid.
And yeah I know it's a new platform, but they've been bragging about it's growth for a while now and yes I'm sure they have 100,000 apps in the store. I just can't find the good ones, the store needs an overhaul.
I'm afraid I just can't give it more time. I might have to return a year later or so.
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EDIT: If you think I'm wrong, if you have found the apps I'm looking for then by all means link me to them. I want to like this thing, I really do.
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Sounds like someone didn't do any research before a big purchase. If you liked how the iphone operated and all the apps for it, why did you switch?
Before I bought my SGS, i went on androlib to look for apps I would need on my phone. I didn't find everything I was looking for, but at least I knew what was there and what wasn't. I also looked around all the android forums (like android central) for any android-specific issues I might encounter.
I just ordered it directly from Samsung
LeEco Pro3
toanau said:
I just ordered it directly from Samsung
LeEco Pro3
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I'm also interested as they are on sale at best buy for this price. Wondering if it's good for reading ebooks and PDF files. I'm pretty sure it's good for media streaming. Not too convinced about battery life and charging times so far. Mayhe the s3 is coming soon. Looking forward to some input on this thread.
I have had two (sat on one) , as well as many other tablets in our family. This is the fastest and smoothest of the lot (Nexus 9, Nexus 7, Sony Xperia, NVidia K1). I am the family geek that preps, refreshes them. Of the lot, this tablet is still my choice (T813 currently). I think it is worth it. I rooted the first one, but have not bothered to root the T813 yet. It is a simple process.
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I'm also interested as they are on sale at best buy for this price. Wondering if it's good for reading ebooks and PDF files. I'm pretty sure it's good for media streaming. Not too convinced about battery life and charging times so far. Mayhe the s3 is coming soon. Looking forward to some input on this thread.
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It's fast enough to be very smooth and the display is really gorgeous.
I use mine for comic reading and PDFs - it's fantastic for colour graphic novels, great for grey scale (B&W) comics. The high PPI level helps that, the OLED screen is YUMMY.
For basic ebooks, the black and white text type, it's probably not as good as a very good E-Ink type reader, they are very crisp and sharp for text (but that crispness falters on pictures)
I'd say:
Colour graphic novels - 9/10
grey scale comics - 8/10
PDFs - 9/10 for pictures, 8/10 for text
Books, plain text - 7 to 8 / 10
That's not to say it's bad, not by any means. The rating is to say that there can be better... but that 9/10 for colour graphic novels means it's essentially unbeatable.
So far battery time and charge time are about normal for a tablet - I did 6.5 hours of general farting about lots of wifi, a little gaming, photos, etc - and i did about 30 mins of wifi transfers from pc to tablet.
And the battery was at 44% after that time. So, good, as far as I can say.
Recharge time to 100% was about three hours.
vernmcc - what benefit is there in rooting. What's the point?
(and I had a silly giggle over that last sentence, given that "rooting" is Aussie slang for a good old bonk, copulation).
The slang...
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vernmcc - what benefit is there in rooting. What's the point?
(and I had a silly giggle over that last sentence, given that "rooting" is Aussie slang for a good old bonk, copulation).
The slang...
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I rooted the original (giggle) to add adaway, gain lower level access to the system for building tasker profiles, and remove some of samsung bloat ware. Adaway is basically an ad blocker that uses host file modification to block known ad sites. Tasker stuff related to WiFi connections and connected blue tooth devices it is hard to do well in Tasker without system access. Removing some of the bloat ware was just an exercise in, can I actually delete this, not just disable in apps. But rooting it (giggle) has a down side that it voids warranty and makes updates less smooth so I have decided to stay with stock for what I use it for (podcast consumption and some light reading).
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I rooted the original (giggle) to add adaway, gain lower level access to the system for building tasker profiles, and remove some of samsung bloat ware. Adaway is basically an ad blocker that uses host file modification to block known ad sites. Tasker stuff related to WiFi connections and connected blue tooth devices it is hard to do well in Tasker without system access. Removing some of the bloat ware was just an exercise in, can I actually delete this, not just disable in apps. But rooting it (giggle) has a down side that it voids warranty and makes updates less smooth so I have decided to stay with stock for what I use it for (podcast consumption and some light reading).
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I did a little hunting after asking the question... there are apps that don't work without rooting *giggle* (sorry) - there's a backup app that needs it, and others (as you probably know).
I like the hosts ad block - I use that on win7, a 550k file full of all the crap-servers... works well.
I take it you can't do it on Andy without rooting *stifles giggle*
Mind you, wouldn't having root access *giggle* (I wouldn't mind having root access, it's been a while...) (slap, stop that!) also give any android viruses you came across low level access too?
And if the rooting went wrong (SLAP, stop it) you'd end up with an expensive thin brick?
Anyway - I hope all goes well for you, I'm rooting for you.... :highfive:
I'd say this tablet is a bit of a bargain if you can pick it up for only $250.
Its not got a SD820 inside so it won't be as fast as your phone but what tablet has got a SD820 under the hood?
Great tablet so far (owned for a year, the original T-810 after being disappointed with the Pixel C's crap wifi and coming from a Nexus 9). Could use 4 speakers (like Ipad Pro, hope the Tab S3 has it) but is very good otherwise. Feels faster than my S7 in many cases since the ROM is lighter than that on phones. BTW, Dec update is now out:
https://www.samdownloads.de/download/t810xxu2cpk1-dbt-6-0-1-germany/ so SW is pretty up-to-date compared to most Android tabs that never see an update. Hoping we get Nougat before too long.
For $250, absolutely. Overall, manufactures have stopped doing yearly tech refreshes on their tablet lines due to tablets being a less profitable product know days. The screen alone makes this tablet worthwhile. It may take 20 years, but they will be releasing android v7 on this tablet.
I got it for $250 on Amazon. Just went back and it's $400 (Best Buy too!). So it definitely was a deal.
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I just ordered it directly from Samsung
LeEco Pro3
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Yes!
I've had mine for about 3 weeks now - loving it.
Battery life is amazing considering the battery size - I;m getting 12 hours of use in 2 lots of 6 or three lots of 4 or mixture - games, photography, cpu intensive stuff, wifi.
And that screen is still delicious... I love reading graphic novels on it.
Flaws? yes - I'd like to remove the four 100 meg bloats wares of Microsoft word/excel/powerpoint/? (forgot) - they should have given us the option to not have this crap.