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Hi guys,
Trying to get a tab for my upcoming early September b/d but as much as I hate to admit, I get a feeling that I might be better off waiting a few months. I *love* everything I've read on Galaxy Tab 7.7 16gb wifi only so far and would go for one but... I'm guessing it's at the end of its life cycle and there may or may not be another 7.7 v2.0, due to Google stepping into the 7" tabs field. Not to mention that I'm having a hard time finding a reputable Galaxy Tab 7.7 US reseller.
There is also Toshiba Excite 7.7 16gb, which I can get at a discount for under $400. I understand that Toshiba has a locked bootloader and lacks in popularity in general and devs interest as a result. There is also Nexus 7 but build quality issues are major turn off.
So, any thoughts on what's coming/available in the 7" or under 8" tabs field that would fit the bill? Is Galaxy Tab 7.7 wifi only still a good choice or would you wait for a successor at this point?
Thanks in advance.

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If you can wait for IFA, but I would think any new tabs from samsung in this size might debut at CES in january.

If you can wait few more month why not? Actually i'm waiting for Microsoft Surface RT, you can always find better offer in the future ffor gadgets like that.
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ascariss said:
If you can wait for IFA, but I would think any new tabs from samsung in this size might debut at CES in january.
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It's not like I *need* it , it's just I was hoping to have one in time for my b/d. Hate going for my wife's iPad 2 every time I need to quickly look something up.
Looks like Galaxy Tab 7.7 was announced on September 1st of last year at IFA. So, I guess there is a good chance they might do it again this year too. I think I might just have to wait til September to see what will be announced. And even so, it won't mean the immediate availability either. So lacking any other serious and available contenders, and seeing that Toshiba Excite 7.7 sale's over, I think I'm gonna get a 16Gb Nexus 7 in the mean time, hoping I luck out and don't get a defective unit. When and if the new premium devices are announced I'll just sell Nexus 7 and get something else, Galaxy Tab 2 7.7 hopefully. Don't see anything comparable that jumps at me at the moment tbhwy. There is also 7" Huawei which is rather meh.
As far as Windows 8 goes,... nah, I just don't care for the new tile UI. So, I'm gonna pass on Windows 8 tablet. OOT, being a Windows developer but I'm not even sure I'd like to give desktop Windows 8 upgrade a try w/o a start button and all. Just my .02.

SM05 said:
It's not like I *need* it , it's just I was hoping to have one in time for my b/d. Hate going for my wife's iPad 2 every time I need to quickly look something up.
Looks like Galaxy Tab 7.7 was announced on September 1st of last year at IFA. So, I guess there is a good chance they might do it again this year too. I think I might just have to wait til September to see what will be announced. And even so, it won't mean the immediate availability either. So lacking any other serious and available contenders, and seeing that Toshiba Excite 7.7 sale's over, I think I'm gonna get a 16Gb Nexus 7 in the mean time, hoping I luck out and don't get a defective unit. When and if the new premium devices are announced I'll just sell Nexus 7 and get something else, Galaxy Tab 2 7.7 hopefully. Don't see anything comparable that jumps at me at the moment tbhwy. There is also 7" Huawei which is rather meh.
As far as Windows 8 goes,... nah, I just don't care for the new tile UI. So, I'm gonna pass on Windows 8 tablet. OOT, being a Windows developer but I'm not even sure I'd like to give desktop Windows 8 upgrade a try w/o a start button and all. Just my .02.
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There are more reasons for getting a Windows 8 tablet if you buy for your b/d, and you should even get the Surface 8 Pro rather than RT for running native Intel applications. I'm not a pro-MS but when they do something good we should attend to it, like kinect.
Regarding the UI, what else can they do when Apple patented round rectangular? :crying: Joking aside, have you gone to a Nokia shop and try out that edgy UI in Lumia? It is surprisingly intuitive and maneuverable. Of course, if you are looking for devices that run Android apps, you may forget to take Surface into consideration :fingers-crossed:

九千. said:
There are more reasons for getting a Windows 8 tablet if you buy for your b/d, and you should even get the Surface 8 Pro rather than RT for running native Intel applications. I'm not a pro-MS but when they do something good we should attend to it, like kinect.
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I don't actually have a kinect add-on for my Xbox. Sorry, but I just can't stand Win8 tiles interface. :silly: I know MS had to come up with something different but it's just not for me. Being a PC guy I know I'm gonna be forced to use it down the road but I think I'm gonna stick to Win7 for now. If anything, I'm more interested in Android development and tablets in particular. Just wish I had more free time. Need a tablet for that too.

Impact of Nexus 10 on third-party Tablet makers?

I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?

Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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Arent there already 4 models of the Transformer out now?
If anything Id expect 3rd party people to step up their game and not make anymore ****ty spec'ed tablets. Its time to move to the newest hardware.

EniGmA1987 said:
Arent there already 4 models of the Transformer out now?
If anything Id expect 3rd party people to step up their game and not make anymore ****ty spec'ed tablets. Its time to move to the newest hardware.
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Yeah I agree, we may not see alot of tablets comign out with the screen res that the n10 has i'd expect alot of tablet with the 1920x1080 screen in the transformer infinity. I think most makers will wait for the tegra 4 processor to come out before we see anything substantial being released, I'd say the N10 will be the master of the domain for at least 6 months.

well i beleive we will see new processors ,the tegra 3 is obvious a medium choice for tablets cpu.
i believe we will see tablets with s4 pro ,exynos cpu and 2gb ram as untill now 1 gb is standard ,for resolution i believe may devs will own a nexus 10 so many apps will go up to nexus 10 resolution in the near future and so new tablets will have the same as nexus 10.
the only thing that i find a little disturbing on nexus is the missing sd slot so new tabs may have a future over nexus 10 ...

Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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This will definitely put some serious price pressure on the 10-inchers. It's pretty well known that the BOM on the Samsung Note 10.1 is $260, and they have been selling it for $200 over cost. So now the N10 comes out, and the 16gb model has to be sold pretty near cost -- you can compare features and prices with the iPad BOM, and the total has to be pretty close to the msrp. My point is that, as with the N7, Google is shaving margins pretty thin, and competitors will have to follow suit -- even mighty Apple
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MikeBuck said:
Yeah I agree, we may not see alot of tablets comign out with the screen res that the n10 has i'd expect alot of tablet with the 1920x1080 screen in the transformer infinity. I think most makers will wait for the tegra 4 processor to come out before we see anything substantial being released, I'd say the N10 will be the master of the domain for at least 6 months.
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It looks like March will be a big month for tablet fans. The Samsung Galaxy S4, with Exynos 5450, is expected. Surely it would be easier to drop that SoC on a tablet, N10-derived or not, as they already have the experience with the 5250, so I would expect tablets to arrive around the same time. T40 is scheduled for Q1 as well, so we may see some interesting head-to-head competition CES, in two months, will shed a lot of light on what to expect in Q1 2013.
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Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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Pretty sure the new Note tablet will be built on the experiences of the old and the Nexus 10.
A 12" 2600k tab with Exynos 5450, 8-core Mali T604 and S-Pen magic, if you can wait 6 months and get an additional $100, you'll be in for a treat. (the 10+" screen is wishful thinking, but isn't that the Samsung way? The next big thing).

Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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Apple will get a run for its money.
Way to go Google :good:

jdog2115 said:
Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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They will always have a large flock of sheep, but it won't be a larger crowd for long. There is going to be a lag between the growth of Android tablets shipped and the growth of quality apps -- as developers are drawn to the platform and have to train up -- but as Android users takes the biggest slice of the market, the maturity of both hardware and software development will improve.
Apple's problem is attracting new customers; they may be selling more tablets, but many are to existing users.
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Pretty sure the new Note tablet will be built on the experiences of the old and the Nexus 10.
A 12" 2600k tab with Exynos 5450, 8-core Mali T604 and S-Pen magic, if you can wait 6 months and get an additional $100, you'll be in for a treat. (the 10+" screen is wishful thinking, but isn't that the Samsung way? The next big thing).
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As much as I crave the N10, I feel I'll be happier in the long-term waiting for the next big thing. Besides, I think my budget Lenovo A2109 is a great tab. My guess is that it compares poorly even in performance, but I just bought it a couple months ago, so I can bask in the upgrade for a while longer .

jdog2115 said:
Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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So, going 16:9 on the iPhone isn't budging? The very existence of the iPad mini?
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Consumer Reports Rates Note 8.0 #1

In the August, 2013 issue of Consumer Reports the Galaxy Note 8.0 is rated #1 ahead of the iPad Mini in the "7 TO 8-INCH SCREEN TABLETS, WI-FI ONLY" category.

As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.

This issue of the magazine was the final reason for me buying this device to replace my iPad Mini.
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Awesome to hear. I switched from the Nexus 7. I found the 7 inch screen a little to small for me. This is my first Samsung product and I am completely happy with it. I have not even found a reason to root it yet :good:

FaeMinx said:
As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.
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That's not true FaeMinx, they could just be stupid.
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Clearly, someone who researches the products even a bit before buying would go for the Note 8.0. Also, most customers who take these surveys are included in this bracket.
The people buying the iPad Mini do it cause they find it pretty!!
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The fact that a mainstream media outlet like CR has rated this relatively lesser-known product as the "best" in its category is certainly refreshing. But lets not get all fanboy here. Everyone has different preferences, uses their devices differently, and therefore has a different reason for considering one tablet "better" of "best" versus another. I love my Note 8, but I'm not going to belittle others, because they made a different choice.
If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.

redpoint73 said:
If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.
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i agree. i'm not sure if i'll be getting my daughter an android tablet for two reasons:
1. i've already bought her a lot of apps on her ipad and don't want to buy them again on android
2. i don't want to share my contacts, emails, everything personal with her when i set up her android device under my account. at least with ios i can set up email and store accounts separately. i can do it with android, but that'll require me to either make a dummy acct for the play acct or lockdown some of the apps, which won't work if she needed to use any of those applications - unless some of you guys have any idea on sharing an android tablet with family without having to buy apps twice.

Maybe one day in the distant future we might just get the fabled 4.2 update with multiuser support...
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i had it on my gnex but never had to use it. does anyone know if it allows sharing apps btw users while locking down email/contacts/etcs from each other.
my s4 has 4.2.2 but no acct setting (other than the standard).

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Maybe one day in the distant future we might just get the fabled 4.2 update with multiuser support...
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Amen...

I tried the multi user set up on my Asus tf 300 pad with 4.2.1 but it made the tablet too slow. ... hopefully it's not the case with note 8 because of more ram and i/o read and write speeds
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madsquabbles said:
i had it on my gnex but never had to use it. does anyone know if it allows sharing apps btw users while locking down email/contacts/etcs from each other.
my s4 has 4.2.2 but no acct setting (other than the standard).
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You couldn't have had it on your Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 only supports multiuser on tablets, not phones. Unless maybe some custom ROM deb decided to shoehorn it into a ROM?
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Uh60m Pilot said:
Awesome to hear. I switched from the Nexus 7. I found the 7 inch screen a little to small for me. This is my first Samsung product and I am completely happy with it. I have not even found a reason to root it yet :good:
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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8

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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8
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While I havent tried the nexus 7 in great detail so cant compare, I do have a 10 inch tablet thats the same res as the note 10.1 and can say the difference between that and the 8.0 is great.
Best way to decide if its good enough for you is to look at the PPI figures...
Note 10.1 - 149
Note 8.0 - 213
nexus 7 - 216
Ipad Mini - 163
Ipad 2 - 132
Ipad retina - 264
As, you can see, the note 8.0 is much sharper than both the ipad mini and the note 10.1 almost identical to the Nexus 7 but not quite in retina display teritory.

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You couldn't have had it on your Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 only supports multiuser on tablets, not phones. Unless maybe some custom ROM deb decided to shoehorn it into a ROM?
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most likely you're right. i thought the gnex was my only 4.2.2 device (other than the s4) but my nook hd+ is running 4.2.2. i'll have to take a look at it an play around with it. i haven't turned it on since i've gotten the gn8.

Nexus 7 vs Note 8.0
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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8
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Response moved to new thread called "Nexus 7 to Note 8.0. Thoughts after switching"

redpoint73 said:
The fact that a mainstream media outlet like CR has rated this relatively lesser-known product as the "best" in its category is certainly refreshing. But lets not get all fanboy here. Everyone has different preferences, uses their devices differently, and therefore has a different reason for considering one tablet "better" of "best" versus another. I love my Note 8, but I'm not going to belittle others, because they made a different choice.
If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.
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Very thoughtful comments. My son is extremely smart and tech sac savvy, yet he chose Apple versus Android. We have quite interesting discussions. We never can agree on which one is the best, so I've opted to leave it as it.
As a manager for a large corporation, I do have some experience in marketing, production and design. Apple has great products, but their demise will be their lack of diversity. Samsung has too many products in so many markets and Apple will never be able to catch them. As we can ask see, all tablets (tier 1) are reaching a point of saturation and there will be nothing else to add to them until a new product arises.
So my estimation is that Samsung and Android are here to stay and Apple has but a few years left before they become the next BlackBerry.
But why rub it in their faces? Let's just let then living their dreams. No harm.
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madsquabbles said:
i agree. i'm not sure if i'll be getting my daughter an android tablet for two reasons:
1. i've already bought her a lot of apps on her ipad and don't want to buy them again on android
2. i don't want to share my contacts, emails, everything personal with her when i set up her android device under my account. at least with ios i can set up email and store accounts separately. i can do it with android, but that'll require me to either make a dummy acct for the play acct or lockdown some of the apps, which won't work if she needed to use any of those applications - unless some of you guys have any idea on sharing an android tablet with family without having to buy apps twice.
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Valid points.
First thing I would do is list the apps that you paid for on iOS you would want on Google Play. I've seen that often the Apple App Store charges for apps that are free on Google Play. Once you've determined which apps those were, that would give you some concrete data to make a decision.
Once multi-user profiles are set one can "define" privileges. Or so I've read. I've not needed to do this myself but it appears others have.
HTH

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As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.
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Remember the "i" in ipad means idiot.

This could be the new Note Pro 10.1 and Note Pro 8.4

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/23/new-samsung-tablets-sm-t535-sm-t531-and-sm-t530-uncovered/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...d-SM-T530-might-be-new-Galaxy-tablets_id51702
Two 8 inch tablets and one 10.1. Maybe they are Super Amoled versions or maybe even Google Play Editions. Man, the choices! Sometimes good and sometimes just sucks, I'd hate to have buyer's remorse.

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http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/23/new-samsung-tablets-sm-t535-sm-t531-and-sm-t530-uncovered/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...d-SM-T530-might-be-new-Galaxy-tablets_id51702
Two 8 inch tablets and one 10.1. Maybe they are Super Amoled versions or maybe even Google Play Editions. Man, the choices! Sometimes good and sometimes just sucks, I'd hate to have buyer's remorse.
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Note's (so far) are "SM-P." The Tab|Pro 10.1 is "SM-T520."

I bet those are: Note Pro 8.4 wifi, Note Pro 8.4 LTE and Note Pro 10.1 WiFi (S-AMOLED)
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Can we even know if these are Android tablets and not Windows?

AcostaJA said:
I bet those are: Note Pro 8.4 wifi, Note Pro 8.4 LTE and Note Pro 10.1 WiFi (S-AMOLED)
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The Note|Pro 12 is "SM-P905" and the Tab|Pro 12 is "SM-T905" so whatever they are those aren't Note's. Why do you guys assume those are high-end devices? The Tab|Pro 10.1 (based on European pricing) is already touching iPad Air pricing and Samsung just announced their 2014 premium tablet line. I'm assuming redone mid-range or even value devices.

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The Note|Pro 12 is "SM-P905" and the Tab|Pro 12 is "SM-T905" so whatever they are those aren't Note's. Why do you guys assume those are high-end devices? The Tab|Pro 10.1 (based on European pricing) is already touching iPad Air pricing and Samsung just announced their 2014 premium tablet line. I'm assuming redone mid-range or even value devices.
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I think you're right, these can't be Note devices, but there are already 8 inch Tabs. So worst case they are just mid-range Tabs, best case they are Google Play Editions.

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I think you're right, these can't be Note devices, but there are already 8 inch Tabs. So worst case they are just mid-range Tabs, best case they are Google Play Editions.
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The (non-Note) Wi-Fi Tab|Pro 8.4 is €389 while its nearest Android competitor, the LG G Pad 8.3, is €285 on Amazon DE. The iPad Mini is the exact same price at €389. The Wi-Fi Tab|Pro 10.1 is €479 while the iPad Air is also €479. So the high-end is covered and Samsung would have to be suicidal to price an Android tablet above iPad pricing even with a carbon fiber body and an AMOLED display. So with the max price point already hit it's probably safe to assume future 2014 devices will be aiming lower; in some cases significantly lower.

I thought this info already came out during CES. These are Galaxy Tabs not Notes.

Good thing we have Berry here to shoot threads like this down.

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Good thing we have Berry here to shoot threads like this down.
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You've been in the threads where people are freaking out about the N10.1-14 being replaced by a Note|Pro 10.1 at some point. I personally think that's a lot less likely to happen now that M-UX appeared as a feature on the N10.1-14 global microsite. As Smoky Bear says, "the best fire is one you can prevent." And also "only you can prevent forest fires."
P.S. - If I was pushing for click-throughs like Phone Arena and SamMobile my spin would probably be different and laced with !!!! and inflammatory baseless opinion also.

People are freaking out because everyone here is afraid their shiny new toy might be obsolete (replaced by a better shiny new toy) after a mere 3 months

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Best case they are Google Play Editions.
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Or, what if they are the long rumored Nexus 10 replacement and recently rumored Nexus 8? The Nexus 10 had a Samsung model number (GT-P8110) so if Samsung's making the newer Nexi it would stand to reason they would too. The last tablet Samsung made with a "GT" moniker was the G-Tab 3 (GT-P5210) so the N10 fit with the then current naming convention. I wouldn't think Samsung would be interested in Google's contract Nexus business because of the lower margins but if they're looking to build up scale to drive down overall production costs (including for their own tablets and components) it could make sense.

C2Q said:
People are freaking out because everyone here is afraid their shiny new toy might be obsolete (replaced by a better shiny new toy) after a mere 3 months
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which is dumb cause they released a bunch of tablets and none of them had better specs than ours. At best, they matched our specs. People need to calm down. All of them different in either screen size or spen and that's it.

BarryH_GEG said:
You've been in the threads where people are freaking out about the N10.1-14 being replaced by a Note|Pro 10.1 at some point. I personally think that's a lot less likely to happen now that M-UX appeared as a feature on the N10.1-14 global microsite. As Smoky Bear says, "the best fire is one you can prevent." And also "only you can prevent forest fires."
P.S. - If I was pushing for click-throughs like Phone Arena and SamMobile my spin would probably be different and laced with !!!! and inflammatory baseless opinion also.
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That's the reason why I post here, because I haven't seen any discussion about these new rumored devices and I like getting input from all the smart people at XDA. So far I have heard all good info from here and am grateful for people with more insight than I have.

smac7 said:
which is dumb cause they released a bunch of tablets and none of them had better specs than ours. At best, they matched our specs. People need to calm down. All of them different in either screen size or spen and that's it.
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Yup. But to be fair I would be a little annoyed too if I found out that better versions of our tablets got announced 3 months later.

BarryH_GEG said:
Or, what if they are the long rumored Nexus 10 replacement and recently rumored Nexus 8? The Nexus 10 had a Samsung model number (GT-P8110) so if Samsung's making the newer Nexi it would stand to reason they would too. The last tablet Samsung made with a "GT" moniker was the G-Tab 3 (GT-P5210) so the N10 fit with the then current naming convention. I wouldn't think Samsung would be interested in Google's contract Nexus business because of the lower margins but if they're looking to build up scale to drive down overall production costs (including for their own tablets and components) it could make sense.
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Samsung won't be making those.
I sure wish there were a google edition 10.1 ROM available...

Feeling robbed

Feel a bit robbed now the pro ones are out. Hope we get updates
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Feel a bit robbed now the pro ones are out. Hope we get updates
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Since the NotePro will cost about twice as much as the Note 10.1 2014, enjoy that feeling bro.

reubenskelly1992 said:
Feel a bit robbed now the pro ones are out. Hope we get updates
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But the 2014 have almost the same specs of the NotePROs, except by the bluetooth 3.0. I don't share that feel.

eblueapocalypse said:
But the 2014 have almost the same specs of the NotePROs, except by the bluetooth 3.0. I don't share that feel.
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Exactly, no idea why anyone would feel robbed tbh.
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I wont feel robbed unless they dont update the note 10.1 2014 with new magazine UX kitkat update......

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Since the NotePro will cost about twice as much as the Note 10.1 2014, enjoy that feeling bro.
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Link please? I haven't seen any US pricing, only European.
Converting it to dollars doesn't make sense because price points are different for different markets.

i won't feel robbed unless someone takes my tablet away. if i weren't happy with the current condition the tablet is in i sure as hell wouldn't have bought it. if i were concerned with what it may or may not do then i'd either wait to purchase or get something else. i sure as hell won't whine about not getting what product X has when i bought product Y to be what i expected it to be.

So the Note|Pro 12's up for pre-sale. Did everyone think Samsung was kidding when they said the Tab/Note|Pro's were launching in Q1? Samsung's UK site now has M-UX as a feature for the N10.1-14. Before, it was only shown on the global microsite. Does anyone think the N10.1-14's not going to get 4.4/M-UX? From a "when" perspective my WAG is about the time the Tab|Pro 10.1 either goes on sale or pre-sale. Since Samsung makes more on the 12" tablets because of their higher price it would make sense to give them some time on the market alone with 4.4/M-UX. So I'd expect the Tab|Pro 10.1 to follow in February/March with our update starting around the same time taking months to reach all Wi-Fi, 3G, and 4G devices across all regions. The N3 which was announced at the same time as the N10.1-14 is just beginning to get 4.4 so it's not like we're dramatically behind update wise.
Last year's Note 10.1 launched in August, 2012, with Honeycomb with a promised update to ICS. Samsung unveiled the 4.1 and "Premium Suite" update with a ton of improvements and new features on November 23, 2012. The first devices began receiving the update in January, 2013 with some not getting it until March. So for those having an anxiety attack about the receipt of 4.4/M-UX the wheels of progress at Samsung can turn very slowly. And sometimes they can turn very quickly. But counting days on the calendar or trying to reverse engineer Samsung's logic and motives isn't going to make the update come any faster (or slower).

Why do you feel robbed? It's a 12 inch tablet and it's at a higher price point. It's almost exactly the same tablet aside from size. 12 inch is a completly different size range. It would be like getting mad at samsung for releasing the note after you just bought the s4, except in this case the specs are nearly equivalent.

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Feel a bit robbed now the pro ones are out.
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Did you buy the Note as status symbol and not because you need it? Then you will in our time ever have this feeling because one month later a better tablet will be on the market.
But maybe you buy the Note because of his specs and it is really useful for you? Then it will be still the same tablet as on the moment you buy it. What matters a fancy GUI of a tablet which isn't to buy now? What matters other tablets? What matters if we get Kitkat or not?
I got the tablet which I need. It has the size I want, the tools I want, the pen I want and is as fast as I need it. So what?

There's kind of a middle ground between being pissed that Samsung released improved high-end tablets so soon after the N10.1-14 went on sale and saying "c'est la vie, so what if my three month old $500+ tablet's is now outdated." When the new Tab/Note|Pros were announced I'll admit my greatest fear was the N10.1-14 would be orphaned and replaced by a newer Note|Pro 10.1. And my fear wasn't just that there would something shinier than my tablet available but that with so few N10.1-14's sold updates would be few and far between. And try selling an orphan on eBay; resale plummets. Now that M-UX (and assumedly it needs 4.4 to run) has been confirmed for the N10.1-14 I'm hoping it'll soldier on along side the Tab/Note|Pros. So I guess I can sympathize with people's positions on both ends of the spectrum.

For those looking for a comparison...
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...,Samsung-Galaxy-NotePRO-12.2/phones/8139,8273
They have the exact same res screen, just slightly bigger, and USB 3.0 aside from ours, which have USB 2.0.

I am currently trying to decide if the Pro models with their incremental improvements are worth the wait and additional money. My inclination is to buy the N10-14 now and use it for all it can do. Tablets are still in their infancy and every few months there will be another new improved version that someone is about to come out with. If this bothers you then you will never be happy with any model anytime soon. But I think real and significant improvements will come along in years rather than months, same as it has been in the phone market. Enjoy your current phone or tablet for what it can do now, and in a couple of years (give or take some) then upgrade to a newer better one. And know that the newer better one then will soon be eclipsed by an even newer even better one very soon.

Do the pro's have true octa-core processor or is it still 4+4?
Any news on this front?

atg284 said:
Do the pro's have true octa-core processor or is it still 4+4?
Any news on this front?
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Same as Note 10.1 2014.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.

The "pro" tabs have an app switch button instead of a menu. You get that same function from holding down the home key. If anything the people that buy the "pro" tabs should feel robbed.

BarryH_GEG said:
So the Note|Pro 12's up for pre-sale. Did everyone think Samsung was kidding when they said the Tab/Note|Pro's were launching in Q1? Samsung's UK site now has M-UX as a feature for the N10.1-14. Before, it was only shown on the global microsite. Does anyone think the N10.1-14's not going to get 4.4/M-UX? From a "when" perspective my WAG is about the time the Tab|Pro 10.1 either goes on sale or pre-sale. Since Samsung makes more on the 12" tablets because of their higher price it would make sense to give them some time on the market alone with 4.4/M-UX. So I'd expect the Tab|Pro 10.1 to follow in February/March with our update starting around the same time taking months to reach all Wi-Fi, 3G, and 4G devices across all regions. The N3 which was announced at the same time as the N10.1-14 is just beginning to get 4.4 so it's not like we're dramatically behind update wise.
Last year's Note 10.1 launched in August, 2012, with Honeycomb with a promised update to ICS. Samsung unveiled the 4.1 and "Premium Suite" update with a ton of improvements and new features on November 23, 2012. The first devices began receiving the update in January, 2013 with some not getting it until March. So for those having an anxiety attack about the receipt of 4.4/M-UX the wheels of progress at Samsung can turn very slowly. And sometimes they can turn very quickly. But counting days on the calendar or trying to reverse engineer Samsung's logic and motives isn't going to make the update come any faster (or slower).
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2012 Note 10.1 never came with Honeycomb.... It was ICS, at least here in Australia. I have NEVER received an update here in Oz. EVER....

LBJM said:
The "pro" tabs have an app switch button instead of a menu. You get that same function from holding down the home key. If anything the people that buy the "pro" tabs should feel robbed.
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4.4 has mandatory in app menu key (overflow) so having a menu key these days is completely redundant. I myself would prefer a dedicated multitasking key, it's better than waiting for the long press to engage.

ultramag69 said:
2012 Note 10.1 never came with Honeycomb.... It was ICS, at least here in Australia. I have NEVER received an update here in Oz. EVER....
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You're right - it shipped with 4.0.3 (or 4.0.4?). And for whatever reason Samsung's not showing last year's 10.1 a lot of love because it's been stuck on 4.1.2 for over a year.

smac7 said:
4.4 has mandatory in app menu key (overflow) so having a menu key these days is completely redundant. I myself would prefer a dedicated multitasking key, it's better than waiting for the long press to engage.
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None of my devices run 4.4 and my new g pad 8.3 came with 4.2. I prefer app compatibility over something that was already built into another button. The menu is in the same place where as those programs that have an in app button make me go hunting for it. It would be nice if google gave people an option to set what they want as buttons.