Whats the differences between the i9505 snd i9505G - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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i9505 - Touchwiz version, wide international release.
i9505G - Stock Google firmware thus "Nexus" experience though it still has Touchwiz frameworks. Also called Google Play Edition only released via US playstore. Updates with this device are fast, just a week behind the official Google Nexus updates

chickentuna said:
i9505 - Touchwiz version, wide international release.
i9505G - Stock Google firmware thus "Nexus" experience though it still has Touchwiz frameworks. Also called Google Play Edition only released via US playstore. Updates with this device are fast, just a week behind the official Google Nexus updates
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what do you mena by touchwiz framework?

kewinhochendorff95 said:
what do you mena by touchwiz framework?
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Vanilla android =stock android which is beautiful
Touchwiz android=android turned to a piece of crap blaoted with junk

varund7726 said:
Vanilla android =stock android which is beautiful
Touchwiz android=android turned to a piece of crap blaoted with junk
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Yeah i got that already and i totaly agree with you but i wrote that i9505G has touchwiz framework...
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kewinhochendorff95 said:
Yeah i got that already and i totaly agree with you but i wrote that i9505G has touchwiz framework...
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according to some developers here samsung put the touchwiz framework into the i9505G since it is required to run most of their apps. And unlike an actual Nexus phone the updates go from Google to Samsung and then get pushed OTA it shouldn't make a difference in the long run but that is what is causing the delay currently.

I actully like the touch wiz and thats why I bought the S4 .
if i wanted pure android i'll just buy Google Nexus 4.

I have a nexus 4 and prefer touchwiz on my s4. I usually change my mind every few months though!
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Samsung Official 4.2.2 update - May

Hi Folks!!! Samsung promised its Flagship devices Note-II and S3 a 4.2.2 update in the end of May 2013. Update includes most of the features available for Galaxy S4.
1. Real-time lingo-decoder S Translator.
2. Array of pointless camera features, such as Dual Shot, Dual Video
3. Smart Stay.
4. Smart Scroll.
5. S Health.
6. UI Changes including the Theme and Lock Screen Modifications in launcher.
Hope, Google's I/O 2013 can also bring out Note-II, S3 fantastic features a head...Fingers crossed..
Here is the Link for Samsung Updates Page:
http://samsung-updates.com/samsung-will-update-galaxy-note-2-and-galaxy-s-3-to-android-4-2-2-till-end-of-may/
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They said it was from a fan not official
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There is an update but it won't show on rooted phones. It will over Kies but it will not update the phone. It will just sit there and won't update.
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Just checked, no update available past 4.1.2
At least not for this handset.
Stock rom, unmodified etc non branded sim free blah blah.
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realwillow said:
Just checked, no update available past 4.1.2
At least not for this handset.
Stock rom, unmodified etc non branded sim free blah blah.
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Well not sure what to tell you. I get one over Kies for my s3 what doesn't update because handset was modified. And when I check on my s3 I get no updates allowed because it has been modified. If I wipe the whole phone the update shows on my s3 but again I can't install it.
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dante501 said:
Well not sure what to tell you. I get one over Kies for my s3 what doesn't update because handset was modified. And when I check on my s3 I get no updates allowed because it has been modified. If I wipe the whole phone the update shows on my s3 but again I can't install it.
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Not knowing what version you're on now, it's all academic anyway
Great
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dante501 said:
Well not sure what to tell you. I get one over Kies for my s3 what doesn't update because handset was modified. And when I check on my s3 I get no updates allowed because it has been modified. If I wipe the whole phone the update shows on my s3 but again I can't install it.
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Learn how to Flash with odin
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phaniblaze said:
Hi Folks!!! Samsung promised its Flagship devices Note-II and S3 a 4.2.2 update in the end of May 2013. Update includes most of the features available for Galaxy S4.
1. Real-time lingo-decoder S Translator.
2. Array of pointless camera features, such as Dual Shot, Dual Video
3. Smart Stay.
4. Smart Scroll.
5. S Health.
6. UI Changes including the Theme and Lock Screen Modifications in launcher.
Hope, Google's I/O 2013 can also bring out Note-II, S3 fantastic features a head...Fingers crossed..
Here is the Link for Samsung Updates Page:
http://samsung-updates.com/samsung-will-update-galaxy-note-2-and-galaxy-s-3-to-android-4-2-2-till-end-of-may/
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Great news!!!
That's why i didn't root my S3 yet...
rootSU said:
Not knowing what version you're on now, it's all academic anyway
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This one.
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rootSU said:
Not knowing what version you're on now, it's all academic anyway
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This version
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Well, you can get back to stock in download mode, flashing with odin respective firmware of your region...make sure you have flash counter reset to zero, if not use triangle away so that your device again becomes genuine. ...
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This version
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That's a really old release of 4.1.2. There are loads of 4.1.2 updates since then. That will be what you are getting prompted for. You're 6 months out of date.
I've been wondering when were they thinking about releasing this since the leak has been around since february (i think) and the S4 has been released already. But to be honest, I couldn't care less about those "features" for an update, all i want is multitasking fixed. Which i'm fairly sure we won't get. Samsung should stick with fixing the basics instead or pushing out mostly useless crap. Guess i'll stick with aosp and just get a nexus at some point...
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That's a really old release of 4.1.2. There are loads of 4.1.2 updates since then. That will be what you are getting prompted for. You're 6 months out of date.
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Well I use arhd anyway so mot really care about if it outdated. Just saying that I was promoted for updates quite a lot. But with a custom Rom I do not care.
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phaniblaze said:
Hi Folks!!! Samsung promised its Flagship devices Note-II and S3 a 4.2.2 update in the end of May 2013. Update includes most of the features available for Galaxy S4.
1. Real-time lingo-decoder S Translator.
2. Array of pointless camera features, such as Dual Shot, Dual Video
3. Smart Stay.
4. Smart Scroll.
5. S Health.
6. UI Changes including the Theme and Lock Screen Modifications in launcher.
Hope, Google's I/O 2013 can also bring out Note-II, S3 fantastic features a head...Fingers crossed..
Here is the Link for Samsung Updates Page:
http://samsung-updates.com/samsung-...-galaxy-s-3-to-android-4-2-2-till-end-of-may/
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Here's the fun fact of the day for you, we will not get s health because it requires hardware our phone doesn't have.
And another freebie the page they got that from was a fan page not an official one so it's all rumour nothing more.
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Heres a tweet...
Android 4.2.2 for high-range devices from June https://twitter.com/search/%23sgs3
dante501 said:
Well I use arhd anyway so mot really care about if it outdated. Just saying that I was promoted for updates quite a lot. But with a custom Rom I do not care.
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That's not really the point.
Your point was Kies tells you there is an update and that it must be 4.2
My point is you are on a 6 month old release. Any update Kies tells you available is not 4.2. It is one of the 30 4.1.2 releases newer than yours.
delsus said:
Here's the fun fact of the day for you, we will not get s health because it requires hardware our phone doesn't have.
And another freebie the page they got that from was a fan page not an official one so it's all rumour nothing more.
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I did think about that since i read somewhere about the extra sensors involved, i just thought they'd adapt or disable functions that really required them or at least do it in a different way that wouldn't need said sensors - there's software to mesure heart rate with the camera, which isn't the most conventional way and, to be honest, if someone told me before that was possible i'd most likely dismiss it as a prank app/gimmick, but i did see it roughly working

I9505 with absolute google os

Hi everyone.
Has most is aware, google struck a deal with Samsung to put Absolute Google on its flagship mobile Galaxy S4 i9505.
An obvious question, will there be a release for us current users to replace the bloat filled i9505 with the more streamline version of Google OS which would be updatable directly from google when updates are available.
Thank AJW
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ajwconsult said:
Hi everyone.
Has most is aware, google struck a deal with Samsung to put Absolute Google on its flagship mobile Galaxy S4 i9505.
An obvious question, will there be a release for us current users to replace the bloat filled i9505 with the more streamline version of Google OS which would be updatable directly from google when updates are available.
Thank AJW
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I think some sammy features are handy for me. The ones i don`t need or want can be removed. But it should be possible to flash that rom i guess on other I9500 devices.
Struck a deal? Lol
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I believe that dev will be doing a nexus type of rom with no sammy apps.
if there is a need for sammy apps, e.g. for me is samsung email and s memo, i believe there will b apk to install.
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hippo1n2 said:
I believe that dev will be doing a nexus type of rom with no sammy apps.
if there is a need for sammy apps, e.g. for me is samsung email and s memo, i believe there will b apk to install.
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Not necessarily, I imagine quite a lot of Samsung apps will require the Samsung framework which wont be present on a nexus-style ROM.
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The Google Edition S4 will be available on June 26. It's reasonable to assume that the AOSP source will drop around the same time.
Meltus said:
Not necessarily, I imagine quite a lot of Samsung apps will require the Samsung framework which wont be present on a nexus-style ROM.
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This is correct. TouchWiz apps, the camera for example, won't work on non-TW ROMs.

Google edition i9505

Does anyone know when we might get the firmware for the i9505 google edition? I'm sure there is much talk about being able to flash this on a regular i9505. I would like to see this used as a better base for all aosp roms in the future. Do you think we have to wait until the 26th release of the device or will we get a leak?
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sirdicholas said:
Does anyone know when we might get the firmware for the i9505 google edition? I'm sure there is much talk about being able to flash this on a regular i9505. I would like to see this used as a better base for all aosp roms in the future. Do you think we have to wait until the 26th release of the device or will we get a leak?
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Tuff question friend.I Really hope to leak 1-2 day before 26th but...We wait and see.
Is it the 26 of this month?
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ktetreault14 said:
Is it the 26 of this month?
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Yes.
June 26! Stay tuned.
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I can't wait. Usually there is a leak a couple days early. I hope this is true for Google edition. I can't express how happy I am with this trend of pure google devices. It'll help with the Android fragmentation problem tremendously.
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6 days to go:laugh:
One would hope official roms will lead to big improvements to the likes of CM and Paranoid Android. Also, I'm wondering if it will lead to camera speed and quality improvements over what we currently have with the CM based roms.
Pagnell said:
One would hope official roms will lead to big improvements to the likes of CM and Paranoid Android. Also, I'm wondering if it will lead to camera speed and quality improvements over what we currently have with the CM based roms.
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If it doesn't reach aosp, then there's no way in hell it could ever affect aosp roms in any way whatsoever.
Sammobile is saying something about releasing a test firmware for a flagship device tomorrow...
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TeeeJaay said:
Sammobile is saying something about releasing a test firmware for a flagship device tomorrow...
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Hope they're talking about the i9505.
Theshawty said:
If it doesn't reach aosp, then there's no way in hell it could ever affect aosp roms in any way whatsoever.
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Indeed. But given that it generally happens to Nexus devices, there is no reason to believe this won't happen to the Nexus edition of the S4 eventually. The binaries for the Nexus 4 were released in March for example and it now has full AOSP support.
Pagnell said:
Indeed. But given that it generally happens to Nexus devices, there is no reason to believe this won't happen to the Nexus edition of the S4 eventually. The binaries for the Nexus 4 were released last month for example and it now has full AOSP support.
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But it's Samsung we're talking about
I would hope, seeing that this was announced at Google io, and it will get regular updates just like nexus devices, Google is going to be in charge of software for this endeavor. If that is the case, I'm positive we will get all the goodies that nexus gets. And I guess I'm wrong, but I thought the firmware that comes with nexus' are aosp.
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Theshawty said:
But it's Samsung we're talking about
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But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.
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But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.
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I hope this partnership is a clear and decisive 50/50 deal. Samsung hardware and Google software.
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sirdicholas said:
I hope this partnership is a clear and decisive 50/50 deal. Samsung hardware and Google software.
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We've had that mix before. It was called "Samsung Galaxy Nexus" ^^
Pagnell said:
But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.
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Well i think in respect to S4 Google edition software , Samsung will control next to none, Google will push new software for Google nexus devises including SGS4 and HTC One Google edition in that respect no more delays due to "touch wiz / sense" adaptation
dublinz said:
Well i think in respect to S4 Google edition software , Samsung will control next to none, Google will push new software for Google nexus devises including SGS4 and HTC One Google edition in that respect no more delays due to "touch wiz / sense" adaptation
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But Google still needs Samsung for updated radio's,drivers etc.
Aerys said:
But Google still needs Samsung for updated radio's,drivers etc.
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Do they? How much of the device is actually Samsung hardware that requires Samsung drivers? It's a Qualcomm device. Other than drivers for the bespoke Samsung features like Air View/Gesture and Smart Scroll etc (which Google won't be using anyway) I can't think of anything Google need off Samsung. This is exactly why making AOKP and CM roms has been so easy for the device. The first guy who created a CM rom did it without even owning one .
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[Q] What does the Google Edition S4 and leaked JB 4.3 mean to us?

Does this mean we can FINALLY have a fully functioning 100% working AOSP MMS app?!? Can I just DL the leaked ROM (here) and pull the MMS.apk and get it working? I'm about to try now also, does this mean that AOSP ROMs will be basically 100% stable? Also, since this Google Edition GS4 has all he bells and whistles (Air View, Air Gesture, etc.) does that mean future AOSP ROMs will have the TouchWiz goodies as well?
Joe0113 said:
Also, since this Google Edition GS4 has all he bells and whistles (Air View, Air Gesture, etc.) does that mean future AOSP ROMs will have the TouchWiz goodies as well?
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AFAIK, the Google Edition GS4 does not have the Air <whatever> features. It is Stock Android. No Samsung apps/features
jj14 said:
AFAIK, the Google Edition GS4 does not have the Air <whatever> features. It is Stock Android. No Samsung apps/features
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Pretty sure you're wrong..
Crap, you are right!
Joe0113 said:
Pretty sure you're wrong..
Crap, you are right!
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Samsung S4 TW is awesome... if i got Xperia Z or Htc one i would flash it with google edition rom.. but not with S4...
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Agreed
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It's definitely looking in a good direction, The IR is working on the Google edition from what I have tested using WatchON. I would be interested to see if we could get some of the S-apps over and working, I just don't like how many soft dependencies they have on each other.
Isn't it using the TouchWiz framework though??
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Yes it is Joe BTW we have official liquidsmooth now
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Android 4.4.2 KitKat

What do you think about the new android version. In my opinion, it's great , with better UI( if the leaked photos are true) , less RAM usage and new kernel. What do you think about the S2? Will Samsung update our phone ? In my opinion Samsung will not update the S2 or the Galaxy Ace or Mini...
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No they will not update our phone. And im also not too sure about new kernel. We do have dorimanx kernel which is light years ahead of most kernels... We have 3.12.rc1 while the Nexus have 3.4?
I don't thing Samsung will just think about updating the S2
It's an old device, it still an amazing device though
But updating it will not benefit Samsung
So no updates
But we still have AOSP
Sent from my S2 running 4.3.1
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ahmedelhofy said:
I don't thing Samsung will just think about updating the S2
It's an old device, it still an amazing device though
But updating it will not benefit Samsung
So no updates
But we still have AOSP
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Yea,thats true, even if samsung don't update it, the leaked images are showing a cool interface
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-Grift- said:
No they will not update our phone. And im also not too sure about new kernel. We do have dorimanx kernel which is light years ahead of most kernels... We have 3.12.rc1 while the Nexus have 3.4?
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The only thing is that some sites said about,that they will update S2 along with S3 ,S4, Ace,Mini, Note,Note 2
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There are rumors that it will support all current devices
It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody.
- Google
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...re-some-things-we-are-expecting-to-see-in-it/
Caproid said:
The only thing is that some sites said about,that they will update S2 along with S3 ,S4, Ace,Mini, Note,Note 2
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I think you may be misunderstanding the sites. They say its possible for 4.4 to run on our device. No updates mentioned.
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Our S2 is getting old.. And i'm not sure that it will can run 4.4 as good as it run 4.2.2.
4.4 is made for less ram usage... Some sites say Ace can run it... Ace has 278 mb of RAM
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Caproid said:
4.4 is made for less ram usage...
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Source ?
S2 will run it
Samsung will not update it
Cyanogen will port it
Everithing will be ok except the fact that samsung will not give another update for s2 even 4.2.2 or 4.3 ... why they should think about 4.4?
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krazy1101 said:
S2 will run it
Samsung will not update it
Cyanogen will port it
Everithing will be ok except the fact that samsung will not give another update for s2 even 4.2.2 or 4.3 ... why they should think about 4.4?
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4.2.2 and 4.3 are full of bloatware...that's why our s2 can't run it....in fact 4.4 will be slimmer...Most of the sites, say that android 4.4 will be released in October 14, which in my case is tomorrow....
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Huh I find no issue with 4.2.2, its the best thing yet! We have spent so much time optimzing 4.2.2 that it is so stable and usable. Fast forward to 4.3 which is much newer we have spent much less time on it so for sure it is not as good. However I dont understand which part of either these versions, 4.2.2 or 4.3 is bloated care explaining? Even if Android 4.4 has so called less RAM usage and kernel improvements it would not really matter to us. Take kernel changes for example. We can't just port AOSP code and use it for our devices correct? Remember the time when we only had official 4.0 and 4.1 was released by Google. Everybody wanted Project butter. Due to Sammy not giving us official 4.1 and its source code on time (thank god they actually gave the source code..) we would never have gotten close to full project butter experience which we still lack fully. So if Sammy does not give us what we need then we can use 4.4 without its so called perks like "less RAM usage"
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter because our exynos device still lacks proper drivers. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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hikarugo said:
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter if our device still lacks a proper driver. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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What?
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-Grift- said:
Huh I find no issue with 4.2.2, its the best thing yet! We have spent so much time optimzing 4.2.2 that it is so stable and usable. Fast forward to 4.3 which is much newer we have spent much less time on it so for sure it is not as good. However I dont understand which part of either these versions, 4.2.2 or 4.3 is bloated care explaining? Even if Android 4.4 has so called less RAM usage and kernel improvements it would not really matter to us. Take kernel changes for example. We can't just port AOSP code and use it for our devices correct? Remember the time when we only had official 4.0 and 4.1 was released by Google. Everybody wanted Project butter. Due to Sammy not giving us official 4.1 and its source code on time (thank god they actually gave the source code..) we would never have gotten close to full project butter experience which we still lack fully. So if Sammy does not give us what we need then we can use 4.4 without its so called perks like "less RAM usage"
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The bloated versions are Samsung's ones... Pure Android is not bloated
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Caproid said:
The bloated versions are Samsung's ones... Pure Android is not bloated
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Yes I know that. But our phone has no problem running 4.2.2 or 4.3 that are AOSP based...... So whats the purpose of this thread anyway.... Cus Sammy has no intention of ever updating this phone to a higher version...
hikarugo said:
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter because our exynos device still lacks proper drivers. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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This OmniRom thing might help when you look at the people running it
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DvWatt said:
Our S2 is getting old.. And i'm not sure that it will can run 4.4 as good as it run 4.2.2.
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Untill now, the S2 is running is able to run 4.3.1 and 100% it will able to run 4.4
Samsung adds a lot of bloatware to their official roms which make the device slow
that's why I never use stock rom
Yea but what about cool features like multi window smart functions and motion ?
If this doesn't mean smth for you .... what about drivers? 4.2/4.3 have a lot of glitches with graphics and cuz samsung dont release exynos source code our beloved s2 will die one day in a near future
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