Can we upgrade firmware if we have new bootloader? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What I'm hearing is that if you have the new firmware, MH8 for example, then you can't downgrade firmware using Odin.
I am wondering if we can upgrade? Or once we've triggered the KNOX warranty status 0x1 are we stuck on the same firmware?
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Chevk this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
It seems to suggest that you will not be able to use odin to flash stock firmware , whether upgrading or downgrading . But you could still use custom recovery or you have to remove the bootloader from the tar archive to flash using odin
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difyel said:
Chevk this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
It seems to suggest that you will not be able to use odin to flash stock firmware , whether upgrading or downgrading . But you could still use custom recovery or you have to remove the bootloader from the tar archive to flash using odin
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Yes that's what I thought, damn.
Not that I ever use the stock firmware but I like to flash it to my device because it comes with modem and updated camera drivers.
Do you know if we install custom firmware that is based on stock ROMs that we get the camera drivers included?

hey brah! I tried downgrading from MH8 to lower version firmware UBMG5 to be exact.
and odin shows failed! now I cant use the fone. says "firmware update encountered an issue." tried flashing the same MH8 firmware again but no avail. tried using a PIT files but failed.
please visit my thread hope you could help me out. thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455240

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[Q] {Need urgent help} Rooting issue

I rooted my device with cf-autoroot and is is succesfully rooted but when i checked my mobile status it say's custom not official.Then i flashed a stock firmware downloaded from samfirmwares and then flashed using odin then it was succesfully flashed then now my device status is official
Now will i get the warranty or not??
Will i be able to install updates from kies with no problem??when i rooted my device i got the error message while updating throught kies now that i flashed the stock rom non-rooted will i be able to install updates from kies or not??really need help
Help me figure this out.....
If now says official should not be problem with update. Try install TriangleAway from google play.
abhirockz said:
I rooted my device with cf-autoroot and is is succesfully rooted but when i checked my mobile status it say's custom not official.Then i flashed a stock firmware downloaded from samfirmwares and then flashed using odin then it was succesfully flashed then now my device status is official
Now will i get the warranty or not??
Will i be able to install updates from kies with no problem??when i rooted my device i got the error message while updating throught kies now that i flashed the stock rom non-rooted will i be able to install updates from kies or not??really need help
Help me figure this out.....
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You lost your warranty mate. If you ever flash anything with Odin (except official firmware), you tripped flash counter.
You most probable have I9500 Indian phone and there is no way to reset hidden flash counter. Triangle Away do not work on I9500.
But yes, you will be able to download updates from kies. No problem with that as long as you do not root and keep status official.
rl421403 said:
You lost your warranty mate. If you ever flash anything with Odin (except official firmware), you tripped flash counter.
You most probable have I9500 Indian phone and there is no way to reset hidden flash counter. Triangle Away do not work on I9500.
But yes, you will be able to download updates from kies. No problem with that as long as you do not root and keep status official.
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i only flashed official stock firmware from odin nothing else i rooted using cwm..how can i find hidden flash counter?
my s4 is not indian it's uae..I brought it from dubai not india.Any help will be appreciated??
can i install indian firmware on my s4 UAE and still recieve updates ..is it possible?
abhirockz said:
i only flashed official stock firmware from odin nothing else i rooted using cwm..
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Official stock firmware does not trip counter. But how did you get CWM on your phone? By flashing CWM recovery with odin. Right. So it tripped counter.
abhirockz said:
how can i find hidden flash counter?
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You cannot, that's why it's HIDDEN flash counter. Right now there is no way to read flash counter or reset it.
abhirockz said:
my s4 is not indian it's uae..I brought it from dubai not india.Any help will be appreciated??
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Does not matter since it's GT-I9500. Although Samsung do not offer international warranty. Warranty is valid for UAE only and you might claim it if you are able to convince them about flash counter.
Can you check if you have GT-I9500, if you have GT-I9505 then you might have some hope.
abhirockz said:
can i install indian firmware on my s4 UAE and still recieve updates ..is it possible?
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I don't see a reason why you cannot. But the only issue you might face is with CSC, localization and modem which you can flash separately later. But apart from that you will be fine.
I think you should get updates and there should not be any problem as long as you keep your device official (no root, no cwm, no flashing), but I cannot confirm this because I have never tried.

[HELP] Downgraded S4 from stock 4.3 to 4.22 Failed. Stuck with Samsung Logo

Hi all,
I tried to downgrade my S4 from the stock 4.3 to the 4.2.2 using odin. Odin success without any error.
Phone rebooted, but stuck with the Samsung logo.
Did I just brick my phone?
Any help? Thanks.
ed-s4 said:
Hi all,
I tried to downgrade my S4 from the stock 4.3 to the 4.2.2 using odin. Odin success without any error.
Phone rebooted, but stuck with the Samsung logo.
Did I just brick my phone?
Any help? Thanks.
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Did you do a factory reset BEFORE doing the ODIN flash downgrade to 4.2.2 ?
If not you need to do that and reflash using ODIN.
Also be 100% sure that you are flashing the correct and specific model/baseband
version of the 4.2.2 stock firmware for your phone.
Only use/download ODIN flash stock official firmware from: http://sammobile.com
for best results.
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
Did you do a factory reset BEFORE doing the ODIN flash downgrade to 4.2.2 ?
If not you need to do that and reflash using ODIN.
Also be 100% sure that you are flashing the correct and specific model/baseband
version of the 4.2.2 stock firmware for your phone.
Only use/download ODIN flash stock official firmware from: http://sammobile.com
for best results.
Good luck!
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I would factory reset my phone but I would still get a error, does the process only work with the international version of the S4? because as far as t-mobile, I don't think we have any luck in downgrading to 4.2.2
LancerEvoDrifter said:
I would factory reset my phone but I would still get a error, does the process only work with the international version of the S4? because as far as t-mobile, I don't think we have any luck in downgrading to 4.2.2
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all you need is reflash official 4.3 firmware using odin. once updated to 4.3 it is impossible to downgrade to official 4.2.2.
so just reflash 4.3 official again and your device will boot up. i myself faced this problem .
nish983 said:
all you need is reflash official 4.3 firmware using odin. once updated to 4.3 it is impossible to downgrade to official 4.2.2.
so just reflash 4.3 official again and your device will boot up. i myself faced this problem .
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so it's impossible to downgrade to official 4.2.2, but is it possible to flash a custom stock rom on 4.3 or 4.2.2 (like a modified stock rom)?
LancerEvoDrifter said:
so it's impossible to downgrade to official 4.2.2, but is it possible to flash a custom stock rom on 4.3 or 4.2.2 (like a modified stock rom)?
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You've most likely got the KNOX bootloader due to this you can not downgrade to an earlier version of an official rom. Custom rom's should work fine not sure about 4.2.2 roms.
nikzDHD said:
You've most likely got the KNOX bootloader due to this you can not downgrade to an earlier version of an official rom. Custom rom's should work fine not sure about 4.2.2 roms.
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Would a equalivalent version of a custom rom work? because I plan to install jovy23's stock SGH-M919 4.3 modified rom, but I am not able to install it due to the errors given by CWM and TWRP

Upgrading from MGA to MKE (4.2.2 to 4.3)

Hello,
I am currently using MGA stock rom, CF-Auto root and philz recovery. I wanna ask can i flash MKE using latest mobile odin and escape from the new knox bootloader stuf?
My Post is very similar to yours
i would NOT recommend trying to update to 4.3 using ODIN as you risk getting the new bootloader. open the odin file with winrar or something to ensure it doesnt have boot.img (or .bin? not sure which) before flashing
seems i have a new rom to download and slim some more.
I wanted to flash using mobile odin and MO do not flash bootloader
sounds like you might end up with the same problem as me then. where the rom will update but the modem will not be a close enough match and wont update.
i will be keeping my eyes on your developments and post if i figure anything else out at my end.
No it's not possible. Just stay away from official firmwares and flash only custom roms.
Why do you want to flash using odin? Just download the pre rooted cwm rom they are knox free.
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[Q] note 3 odine update always fails

i have galaxy note3 LTE N9005 ,I TRIED TO UPGRADE TO OFFICIAL SAMSUNG KIT KAT 4.4.2 ROM BY ODIN 3.09 BUT IT FAILED, AND NOW CAN NOT RECOVER MY DEVICE, I TRIED MANY TIMES WITH ODIN THE I TRIED OTHER OFFICIAL ROM FOR ADROID 4.3 THE ORIGINAL BUT FAILED, PLEASE MY DEVICE IS DAMAGE OR STILL CAN BE RECOVERED.:crying::crying::crying::crying:
Had the same problem yesterday. You need a PIT-File too for the flashing.
I uploaded it for you, extract and flash it with the AP-File. Re-Partition must be checked in Odin.
Be aware if the Bootloader was flashed there's no point trying for JB (4.3) roms...
it's that pit file good for flashing kitkat 4.4.2 roms ?cheers
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vtec303 said:
it's that pit file good for flashing kitkat 4.4.2 roms ?cheers
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There's some KK PIT files in the General section :good:

Note 3 problem going back to stock firmware

I would like to back to my stock firmware using the Kies 3 but it gaves me an error like: SM-N9005 does not support initializing.
Can anyone help me?
Download stock rom from sammobile web site. And download odin. You can flash the stock rom with odin easily. There are many topics about stock rom flashing with odin, if you are not sure about what you are doing.
Or download from updato.com and others .
Another place for firmware: https://samsung-firmware.org/fQ/m/476/r/aLL/o/aLL/b/b/d/d/
Hi all
If i flash lates stock rom, will it unroot the phone, i now that knox is tickt, and there is nothing to do about that forever.
Yes Stock Odin flash removes root.
JJEgan said:
Yes Stock Odin flash removes root.
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Thanks
stock rom
will flashing a stock rom restore/replace system files if accidentally deleted
Yes it replaces all .

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