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Anyone Considering Evo.....(you better be) should check this out...

Im buying which ever is released first the day it comes out. Gemini tablet is a BEAST though....Ive been drooling over it for awhile. Only tabby with a 3g radio for voice calls,plus dual core 1ghz, thats sick. Just something to check out case you didnt know about it.....
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ICD Gemini Tablet
Gemini has beautiful 11.2" screen, compared to iPad’s 9.7" – a whole 1.5" larger diagonally. This gives us 8.38 square inches of extra viewing space to ogle at.
But this is just the beginning. Gemini specs include:
an ultra-fast dual core nVidia Tegra 2 1GHz CPU
a 3G connection with voice, SMS, and MMS support
2 cameras – 5MP autofocus on the back and 2MP fixed focus on the front – hey, that’s way more than even my desktop’s webcam has!
a GPS – the iPad doesn’t have any
a user replaceable 40Wh battery compared to iPad’s 25Wh one
an SD card reader
support for playing 1080P video
a promise to support Adobe Flash which is not too shocking considering this is an Android platform
dual speakers AND dual microphones for noise cancellation
FM radio
USB ports – iPad doesn’t even have any
a 1366 x 768 pixel resolution
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, infrared
Android (of course, why else would we talk about it here?)
11.8" x 7.5" x 6" dimensions
If you dont know everything about the EVO then slap yourself now​

I missed all that and am stuck staring at your GIF.
is there a TL;DR version?

The Evo is a very interesting device. For sure when it comes time to upgrade it'll be my device of choice.

I'm definitely not getting the EVO. I might if it didnt have Sense UI but its just not worth all that money. My next phone is gonna be the Nexus... and it has a trackball too.

HeroHTC said:
I missed all that and am stuck staring at your GIF.
is there a TL;DR version?
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TL;DR : ICD Gemini Tablet > iPad; HTC EVO > *

These two devices are not even remotely the same. Can you imagine holding something larger than an iPad up to your face to make phone calls?
One is a phone, one is not. Why the comparison?
Epic GIF though.

I need a phone with computer like abilities more than a computer with phone like abilities. The Gemini is too big to just carry around everywhere you go.

evo for me!!!!

Sawawa said:
These two devices are not even remotely the same. Can you imagine holding something larger than an iPad up to your face to make phone calls?
One is a phone, one is not. Why the comparison?
Epic GIF though.
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IT HAS A 3G RADIO CAPABLE OF VOICE CALLS. THATS A PHONE. I like a full keyboard and i can make vid calls why would i put it by my face? Google it, if you dont realize how sick it is, then you are most likely ill. How many phones
do you know of with dual core 1ghz processors? Not that many right.......
And if you can add 1+1, then youd realize this is not a comparison, i was making those unaware, aware of an awesome piece of tech. Sorry to see you missed the point by leaps and bounds.
and yeah the funniest part of the gif is when he shoots the little girl​

MagnusRagnarok said:
Im buying which ever is released first the day it comes out. Gemini tablet is a BEAST though....Ive been drooling over it for awhile. Only tabby with a 3g radio for voice calls,plus dual core 1ghz, thats sick. Just something to check out case you didnt know about it.....
vs
THERE WILL BE BLOOD
ICD Gemini Tablet
Gemini has beautiful 11.2" screen, compared to iPad’s 9.7" – a whole 1.5" larger diagonally. This gives us 8.38 square inches of extra viewing space to ogle at.
But this is just the beginning. Gemini specs include:
an ultra-fast dual core nVidia Tegra 2 1GHz CPU
a 3G connection with voice, SMS, and MMS support
2 cameras – 5MP autofocus on the back and 2MP fixed focus on the front – hey, that’s way more than even my desktop’s webcam has!
a GPS – the iPad doesn’t have any
a user replaceable 40Wh battery compared to iPad’s 25Wh one
an SD card reader
support for playing 1080P video
a promise to support Adobe Flash which is not too shocking considering this is an Android platform
dual speakers AND dual microphones for noise cancellation
FM radio
USB ports – iPad doesn’t even have any
a 1366 x 768 pixel resolution
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, infrared
Android (of course, why else would we talk about it here?)
11.8" x 7.5" x 6" dimensions
If you dont know everything about the EVO then slap yourself now​
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That Gemini will be hard to fit in your pocket......lol

Even though the Gemini is pretty cool device... when I want to purchase a mobile device... I'm going to look for a mobile device, not a tablet. Even if it can make phone calls and such... it isn't portable and it no longer becomes a feasible mobile device in my eyes.
The Evo has large enough screen, especially at 4.3"... it'll be the biggest screen in the mobile/smart phone scene. So, with that instead, I still plan on getting the Evo over any device as of right now.

MagnusRagnarok said:
and yeah the funniest part of the gif is when he shoots the little girl​
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Thanks for the good info on the Gemini Tablet but I think your gif is sick.

The funny part of the gif is the whole thing.
This inspires an analogy. Apple is like the spoiled rich kid who has everything he wants when he's young and android is the middle class kid who worked his ass off to achieve something great and is now shining light on the fact that apple has been blowing daddys money on over priced crap his whole life.
Android... Im speechless, just awesome!

MagnusRagnarok said:
IT HAS A 3G RADIO CAPABLE OF VOICE CALLS. THATS A PHONE. I like a full keyboard and i can make vid calls why would i put it by my face? Google it, if you dont realize how sick it is, then you are most likely ill. How many phones
do you know of with dual core 1ghz processors? Not that many right.......
And if you can add 1+1, then youd realize this is not a comparison, i was making those unaware, aware of an awesome piece of tech. Sorry to see you missed the point by leaps and bounds.
and yeah the funniest part of the gif is when he shoots the little girl​
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When you decided to put the "vs" in there. you turned it into a comparison. Along with deciding between the two. They're two completely different devices, that's the same as deciding between a laptop and a phone. Calling capabilities doesn't make it a phone since you can technically make calls from your home pc or laptop. Both great devices, but not sure why you'd choose one over the other. If it's a phone you need, evo, if it's a tablet you want, gemini. simple

schizopunk said:
I'm definitely not getting the EVO. I might if it didnt have Sense UI but its just not worth all that money. My next phone is gonna be the Nexus... and it has a trackball too.
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I'm sure there will be a great custom rom without sense and if not you could just disable it. The evo has the nexus beat in everything.

nebenezer said:
The funny part of the gif is the whole thing.
This inspires an analogy. Apple is like the spoiled rich kid who has everything he wants when he's young and android is the middle class kid who worked his ass off to achieve something great and is now shining light on the fact that apple has been blowing daddys money on over priced crap his whole life.
Android... Im speechless, just awesome!
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Well put!

MuzikJay said:
When you decided to put the "vs" in there. you turned it into a comparison. Along with deciding between the two. They're two completely different devices, that's the same as deciding between a laptop and a phone. Calling capabilities doesn't make it a phone since you can technically make calls from your home pc or laptop. Both great devices, but not sure why you'd choose one over the other. If it's a phone you need, evo, if it's a tablet you want, gemini. simple
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This, thanks.

MuzikJay said:
When you decided to put the "vs" in there. you turned it into a comparison. Along with deciding between the two. They're two completely different devices, that's the same as deciding between a laptop and a phone. Calling capabilities doesn't make it a phone since you can technically make calls from your home pc or laptop. Both great devices, but not sure why you'd choose one over the other. If it's a phone you need, evo, if it's a tablet you want, gemini. simple
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Thanks, I was just about to post a reply exactly like this one.

rjj1976 said:
Thanks for the good info on the Gemini Tablet but I think your gif is sick.
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That gif is sick...you are a sick one....ROFL

the garmin is great but it wouldnt be a great mobile device... it would be a GREAT alternative to the ipad though when i get the money i would definitely buy the garmin instead of the ipad....
but for a mobile device i would rather get the evo or something a little bigger like one of the dell phones

Get Atrix 2 section

For those of you who own an atrix 2 please go to the main general section and about xda and request us a section. If no developer picks it up I will be heading to the galaxy s2....
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http://myfacewhen.com/58/
while a section will be nice, isn't it a little soon to be threatening to abandon a phone for lack of development? Things in the original Atrix world are only just beginning to be interesting...

I don't know but if there isn't soon some development on the Iphone 5 i'm LEAVING!

Haha, what a stupid thread. Maybe this will make it better.
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craigbailey1986 said:
For those of you who own an atrix 2 please go to the main general section and about xda and request us a section. If no developer picks it up I will be heading to the galaxy s2....
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you shld have gone with the atrix 1 anyway

SirFork said:
http://myfacewhen.com/58/
while a section will be nice, isn't it a little soon to be threatening to abandon a phone for lack of development? Things in the original Atrix world are only just beginning to be interesting...
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For one I am not loyal to any one phone because it's too many out there to choose from. Secondly I prefer a phone I can flash things on so without developers and my nonknowledge about developing (I am currently learning) I much rather have a device that developers work on...
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fleurdelisxliv said:
you shld have gone with the atrix 1 anyway
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I thought about it but the store by my house only had atrix 2 on Monday when I went in and said they were no longer carrying the og atrix so in a sense it was decided for me... I will possibly get the g2 from best buy as it's cheaper there and compare before I make my final decision...
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There is nothing wrong with the Atrix 2 it's build quality is actually quite a bit sturdier and having that .3 inch screen difference really does make a difference plus the UI is leaps and bounds better than the OG and I have owned the OG. Still nothing wrong with the OG just like the build quality and what not of the second one a little better. As for Development it does take some time to get that started. I mean the OG took this long to get Development to this point and the Thrill is still SLOWLY progressing. The only reason the SGSII has the development it does is mainly because it was released over seas awhile before it came to the states so people had time to get used to it and what not and the hardware didn't change to horribly much from over seas to here. Plus add to the advertising they spent on rolling that device out and how much Hype got centered around it.

malickie said:
There is nothing wrong with the Atrix 2 it's build quality is actually quite a bit sturdier and having that .3 inch screen difference really does make a difference plus the UI is leaps and bounds better than the OG and I have owned the OG. Still nothing wrong with the OG just like the build quality and what not of the second one a little better. As for Development it does take some time to get that started. I mean the OG took this long to get Development to this point and the Thrill is still SLOWLY progressing. The only reason the SGSII has the development it does is mainly because it was released over seas awhile before it came to the states so people had time to get used to it and what not and the hardware didn't change to horribly much from over seas to here. Plus add to the advertising they spent on rolling that device out and how much Hype got centered around it.
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That, and Sammy was nice to CM7 team, even sending over GSII before release!

No phone is perf-

rdubyah said:
Haha, what a stupid thread. Maybe this will make it better.
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+1
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In case anyone is concerned Moto has the specs up for the Atrix 2 some of the highlights are:
MEMORY
8GB on board, 1GB Dual Channel RAM
ACCELEROMETER
Yes
NETWORKS
WCDMA 850/1900/2100, GSM 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Category 14) Edge Class 12, GPRS Class 12, eCompass, AGPS
PROCESSOR SPEED
1GHz Dual Core, Dual Channel RAM with Advanced 3D Graphics Acceleration
REMOVABLE MEMORY
2GB micro SD card preloaded (expandable up to 32GB)
SENSORS
Proximity, ambient light
ANDROID™ PLATFORM
Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread)
MULTIPLE NETWORKS
WCDMA 850/1900/2100, GSM 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Category 14) Edge Class 12, GPRS Class 12, eCompass, AGPS
DISPLAY TYPE
Corning® Gorilla® Glass
SIZE (H X W X D)
66.0 x 125.9 x 10.4 mm
DISPLAY SIZE
4.3-in.; qHD (960 x 540)
WEIGHT
147 grams
ANTENNA TYPE
Internal
FORM FACTOR
Touch Tablet
ADVANCED MODES
Panorama, multi-shot
DIGITAL ZOOM
Yes
FLASH
LED
FOCUS
Automatic
FRONT FACING IMAGER
VGA
MAIN IMAGER
8 MP
SPEAKER EFFECTS
Equalizer with Bass Punch
PLAYABLE FORMATS
AAC, H.263, H.264, MP3, MPEG-4, WAV, WMA9, WMA10, eAAC+, MIDI, AMR NB, AAC+
STREAMING MEDIA
Audio, Video, Podcasts, Internet Radio and FM radio
VIDEO CAPTURE RATE
HP 1080p capture
VIDEO PLAYBACK RATE
HP 1080p capture
WIRED STEREO DEVICE EFFECTS
3D Stereo, Home Theater, Live Stage, Custom
WEB BROWSER
Android HTML Webkit, Adobe® Flash® Player 10.3
SYNCHRONIZATION
Corporate Sync, BOTA, OMA DM
WIFI
802.11 b,g,n
BLUETOOTH® TECHNOLOGY
Stereo Bluetooth® technology 2.1+EDR (supports profiles A2DP 1.2, AVRCP, HFP 1.5, HID 1.0 Host, HSP 1.2, OPP 1.0, PBAP 1.0, PAN-NAP 1.0, SPP, DIP, MAP)
4G MOBILE HOTSPOT
Be a mobile hot spot for up to 5 other WiFi-enabled devices
CONNECTOR TYPE
Micro USB, HDMI
DATA TRANSMISSION RATE
USB 2.0 (High Speed)
DLNA (DIGITAL LIVING NETWORK ALLIANCE)
Stream, store and share content with compatible devices around the home like HDTVs, game consoles and PCs
GPS AND LOCATION SERVICES
eCompass, aGPS (assisted) with Google Maps™, Google Latitude™, Google Maps Street View, eCompass
HEADSET JACK
3.5 mm
TALK TIME (CONTINUOUS)
WCDMA up to 510 min.; GSM up to 510 min.
BATTERY TYPE
1785/1735 (typical/minimum) mAh Li Ion Polymer
STANDBY TIME
WCDMA up to 382 hrs.; GSM up to 303 hrs
EMAIL
Corporate Sync, Google Mail, POP3/IMAP (embedded), Corporate Directory Lookup (GAL), Yahoo!® Messenger
MULTIMEDIA MESSAGING (MMS)
PREDICTIVE TEXT
Motorola and Swype®-enabled
TEXT MESSAGING (SMS)
Yes
INSTANT MESSAGING (IM)
Google Talk™
VOICE MAIL
Yes
RINGTONE FORMATS
AAC, AAC+, eAAC, eAAC+, MP3

I am happy with my atrix 2 with or without dev..... But it would be nice to tinker with the guts of it.... Good lord know my captivate went to the cops and cried rape because of xda.

Wow I have the phone and Just realized it has FM Radio awesome Was missing that feature when I left to go to the OG Atrix from the MyTouch 4G.
Just an FYI http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301121 go there to request the atrix 2 get a place to be.

Holy crap your right, do a search for "Droid 3 FM radio.APK" its 524 KB and it will let you use FM radio. I thought it was connecting to the net but it let me pickup my favorite station. You will need headphones it this is awesome!
Sent from ATRIX 2

cheetablaze said:
Holy crap your right, do a search for "Droid 3 FM radio.APK" its 524 KB and it will let you use FM radio. I thought it was connecting to the net but it let me pickup my favorite station. You will need headphones it this is awesome!
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You don't have to get the droid 3 fm radio.apk the FM Radio is actually built into the stock music player on the device I just never noticed it until I saw the specs that were posted and Read it.

craigbailey1986 said:
For those of you who own an atrix 2 please go to the main general section and about xda and request us a section. If no developer picks it up I will be heading to the galaxy s2....
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Hello buddy, seems you got the Atrix2 already. i just have some questions on this
is the CPU TI4440 or TI4430?
is the display pixel arrangements RGB or Pentile?
does the display satisfy you?
does the camera satisfy you?
thanks.

gigii said:
Hello buddy, seems you got the Atrix2 already. i just have some questions on this
is the CPU TI4440 or TI4430?
is the display pixel arrangements RGB or Pentile?
does the display satisfy you?
does the camera satisfy you?
thanks.
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The cpu is ti omap4430
The display is qhd no lentils. The screen is beautiful not as nice as Sammy super amoled but I think the atrix 2 holds its own.
The camera is great,my pictures are super crisp and eye catching. The video recording is good as well. I plan to keep this one for a while after being let down by google and samsung the other day.
Question for someone who knows the answer: what is dual channel ram? Seems as though the atrix 2 has this as well...
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craigbailey1986 said:
The cpu is ti omap4430
The display is qhd no lentils. The screen is beautiful not as nice as Sammy super amoled but I think the atrix 2 holds its own.
The camera is great,my pictures are super crisp and eye catching. The video recording is good as well. I plan to keep this one for a while after being let down by google and samsung the other day.
Question for someone who knows the answer: what is dual channel ram? Seems as though the atrix 2 has this as well...
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Thanks.
I felt somewhat disappointed the CPU is not OMAP4440, because it much better than 4430...
and i saw the specs on the Motorola's offical website saying Atrix2 has the dual channel RAM.

gigii said:
Thanks.
I felt somewhat disappointed the CPU is not OMAP4440, because it much better than 4430...
and i saw the specs on the Motorola's offical website saying Atrix2 has the dual channel RAM.
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I just read this about the atrix 2:
The Atrix 2 is powered by dual-core 1GHz ARM Cortex-A9 processor, ULP GeForce GPU, Tegra 2 AP20H chipset with 1GB RAM
source:
http://m.ibtimes.com/apple-inc-ipho...otorola-droid-razr-htc-evo-design-234663.html
this is posted 10/20/2011 so what is the correct information????

The Galaxy Note Is The Most Versatile Mobile Device Ever.

Some people regard the Note as being too big to be used as a phone and too small to be used as a tablet. Of course, neither is true because the Note is the most versatile mobile device ever made. The days of having to own a small mobile phone where the screen is too small to be practicable and a tablet which is too big to carry around are over. Thank you Samsung.

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It,s probably the best thing ever done as yo it,s many functions. It,s a great smartphone light and thin with the biggest screen and amazing performance, it has an amazing battery life considering it's hugeness. It's a great ebook using aldiko, it's a fantastic media player for music, video and photos on it's own screen and on tv with hdmi. The quality of the camera is close yo the iphone 4s if not best. The video recording is simply great and of course it is better that any gps navigator you can buy since it positioning technology is the fastest i've ever seen. No doubt this phone is the gadget of the year

I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!

CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone

I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.

The size is a personal thing,for me its perfect for both as a phone and a tablet.
J had a Galaxy 10.1 it put a big stress on my arm,to use it I had to lift my arm all the time,so I gave it to my wife a Cello player.
Now with my GNote I sit for hours surfing the net without any stress since I just use my fingers to operate the entire device without lifting an arm,this is even more obvious when I play chess in long sessions,so can't be more happier with the size.

I agree. Its the best phone I have ever used. The huge screen is really an advantage in all aspects.

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
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Amen! I'm with you in every thing you said, except fot the VPN wich I don't know what is it lol...

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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Thats fake picture and SGS3 will come as 4.65" as I guess. There are no real leaked picture of SGS 3 yet and all just guessing.
http://www.androidcentral.com/not-samsung-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Another "leaked" picture:
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5,3" is good for surf/video and thats the most important I got the Note for.
S-Pen is a plus and handy if wanna write some short notes to what to buy, since I always forget something at stores, after i got home.
Tab is too big too carry along and 4,3" phone (or whatever size) is just too small for surf/video. Also carry 2 device is not funny.
The Notes 5,3" is perfect and u get 2in1 hybrid device to carry with u.

True
It replaces mobile, tab and PC to an extent. And then, it replaces pen and paper!
(and, camera, music, navigation too but that's given)

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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If that phone were real, I would buy it the instant it was available, and I'd pay $1500 for it without batting an eye. That is my dream device. The only thing I'd want different is for the stylus to be stored onboard. Unfortunately, it's just a concept.

CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.

romac said:
How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
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For me; pocketability
I agree... Sammy got it right.
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drgopoos said:
For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
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Ha ha ha! True.
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Galaxy Gear vs. SmartWatch 2 vs. Omate TrueSmart

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Samsung Galaxy Gear is awesome, being able to root, use the Play Store, set your own launcher and all is great. After all, it's based on Jelly Bean (4.1.2 - I believe), but it's limited in many ways compared to the alternatives, and limited to certain devices... The Galaxy Gear is priced at $299.
The Sony SmartWatch 2 is limited in functionality, as far as we know, however I won't knock it as not too many people stateside have gotten their hands on one. That's at a $199 price point.
The Omate TrueSmart, (a KickStarter Funded Project that's available for Pre-Order w/ Dec. Shipping) on is a lot like the Galaxy Gear but has ruggedized properties, runs Android 4.2.2, has capability of running the Play Store (see below, as Lokifish Mars explains), water resistant, has a microphone, camera, speaker, is rootable, Bluetooth, microSD card support, and can even be used as a standalone phone, has complete stock Android interface, with add-ons for $299 w/ the higher RAM option.
To me its a no-brainer, Omate TrueSmart, right???
I own a prehistoric Sony Smartwatch, like the idea of smart watches, but what's with all the hype over the Gear? Why not go with the TrueSmart??? The Pebble seems stupid to me, only because for the price, it doesn't do THAT much for $199 and I'd rather spend $100 more on something more functional, even though I'll loose out on the super e-Ink low energy battery life technology. If money grows on trees in your family, buy them all if that's what makes you happy, but I'm just trying to be practical...
Yes, Google will probably release a smartwatch pretty soon, with Google Now/Search, but I doubt it'll be fully Android featured like the TrueSmart...
And I'm sure Apple will release an iWatch that has a clockface, pause/play button, and a few other features, (Siri with luck) for $129, and call it the First (using a stupid word like...) Innovative or Intellectual smartphone companion watch, and Samsung will eat them alive in court while Sony, Pebble, and Omate watch and eat popcorn while Samsung fights.
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Yes, it is a no-brainer.
And where did you find that the gear could be rooted? Is a root available already?

That URL shows the top smartwatches, sweet! Omate TrueSmart beats them all for the most part. Also, the Gear can be rooted, xda thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2480429
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deedscreen said:
That URL shows the top smartwatches, sweet! Omate TrueSmart beats them all for the most part. Also, the Gear can be rooted, xda thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2480429
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Thank you, updated the website to show that. But yes, the TrueSmart ousts pretty much all of them, in nearly every category. It's ridiculous.

They still haven't figured out how to get the internet working on the gear as far as I know. Since it doesn't have wifi they have to figure out how to get it through bluetooth.
Either way, here's my opinion.
Get the Omate if you want something that can do more than be an accessory to your phone. Or if you want an accessory that has the most rooting and messing around with potential. It blows the others out of the water in terms of specs.
Get the Gear if you just strictly want an accessory, and maybe want to run specific apps on it. If you really want to get into rooting and stuff you'll probably want it to have the sensors and radios it doesn't have. I find that with my Motoactv...I want it to have a cellular antenna so it has internet all the time, no wifi or bluetooth messing around. Yeah, it's still totally rad, but it could be BETTER. Enter the Omate.
Get the Sony if you want strictly an accessory. Stay away even if you have the slightest inclination to mess around with it cause you can't. It's running on a proprietary OS. If however it does everything you want, I'd get it over the gear to save some money and get a slimmer device.

It feels like Omate vs. Sony Smartwatch/Gear is like Android vs. iOS respectively, why limit yourself, especially when you're paying around the same price... If the device is so limited, why price it with the big boys?
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I have used the gear and it's a great toy but this really is a no brainer.
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Sadly this is not correct. Here's what we do know.
TrueSmart will initially ship with it's own app store.
No version of Android 4.3.1 and lower will ever officially support Google Services (Play Store, Gmail app and so on) on smartwatches like the TrueSmart. This now leaves only versions of Android that haven't even been announced yet and tells folks that if they are running 4.3.1 or lower then they will not have official Google Services.
A PC based app, root or custom recovery is being looked at to allow non-developer editions running 4.3.1 or lower the ability to push unofficial Google Services to the TrueSmart.
Here's what we don't know
Will Android 4.4 or higher support smartwatches like the TrueSmart.
Will the TrueSmart receive certification for Android 4.4 or higher to include official Google Services.
Why does my cat like eating plastic.
*All that aside I still think the TrueSmart is a more capable device out of the box. The specs also allow for a more long term lifespan with regards to Android versions and apps updates.

@Lokifish Marz That is true, I saw a Play demo, and what I read about the Play store was unofficial, and Loki - it's been a while, since the Photon days haha. (OP updated).
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deedscreen said:
@Lokifish Marz That is true, I saw a Play demo, and what I read about the Play store was unofficial, and Loki - it's been a while, since the Photon days haha. (I'll update OP).
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It has been a while. Five different devices later and I ended up back on the Photon.
With repos dropping off for Ubuntop I figured it was time to move on and will be on two different smartwatches for the foreseeable future. The TS will be my main device though.

Marz is dead on.
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Smartwatch Comparison – Samsung Galaxy Gear Vs Omate TrueSmart Vs Sony SmartWatch 2 V
Check out this comparison. This has covered Samsung Galaxy Gear, Omate TrueSmart, Sony SmartWatch 2, Pebble Smartwatch.
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raghav280392 said:
Check out this comparison. This has covered Samsung Galaxy Gear, Omate TrueSmart, Sony SmartWatch 2, Pebble Smartwatch.
teknosrc[dot]com/smartwatch-comparison-samsung-galaxy-gear-vs-omate-truesmart-vs-sony-smartwatch-2-vs-pebble-smartwatch/
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Unfortunately, the comparison is based on a tech spec which is useless. You need a hands'on comparison from someone who has been using these watches for awhile.

the Omate TrueSmart isn't a no-brainer for everyone, it all depends on what you want from your (smart)watch
i have the smartwatch 2 now, but i wouldn't even call it a smartwatch, it's just a second display, the real magic happens on your phone and it can't do much without it
but that's fine with me, all i wanted from a smartwatch, when i first found out they existed, is:
1) it can act as a watch (duh )
2) not be huge, preferably less then 10mm thick
3) display notifications coming from my phone (facebook/twitter/whatsapp/etc)
4) have a battery life of at least 3-4 days
5) be waterproof
that really hasn't changed, i don't need a watch to replace my smartphone
i'm not going to read email/news/etc or surf the wen on my watch, my Butterfly S is perfect for that, 5 inch 1080p screen, not even the Neptune Pine comes close
the sw2 does most of those things right, but it doesn't seem like Sony is too interested in making it a success, releasing it without options shown in presentations and even on the box it comes in
the latest update has solved some issues and some watch faces were added, but overall i'm not impressed
and a really big one: the fact it fell apart within 2 months
and it's happening quite a lot, plenty of posts on xda and sony mobile forum, some even reported it falling apart after 3 days!
that's why i think for me the HOT Watch is a 'no-brainer', it does all those 5 things, with as added bonus, the private call function. i'm really looking forward trying that out
maybe in couple of years, smartwatches will replaces smartphones, but that will need flexible displays and much better batteries

I can only speak from an experience of reading about Gear and SW2, and having TS for a few days
Gear and SW2 will have all the notification working as expected tethered to your phone, and rooting Gear will give you a true android experience, although battery life is not that good. Plus, try to go outside with Gear shoveling snow (we just got our first storm in NJ), and getting it wet - forget 'bout it. Proprietary charger is not ideal either. Sony SW2 sounds like having a lot of build quality issues; it's alarming when I read posts on xda about screen coming off, etc. It should work fine with notifications (I talked to Augmented SW Pro developer - it's fully supported), you get some level of waterproof protection, regular micro-usb charging, and you can run some apps on it, but obviously it's not a true Android experience. I also like an idea of time always being displayed on SW2.
True Smart, hard to form an impression yet since I just installed Loki's ROM and can only use it as a mini android wifi device on my wrist. I don't have GSM sim card, on Verizon with CDMA, and personally think it makes no sense to drain your battery with 3G or even wi-fi use. It is a stand alone mini android watch so you can run different apps, browse the web, check emails, type on it, etc. But since I have a developers edition sent to me for review purpose, the software is not currently available. I mean, there is no way for me to have bt connection to my Note 2 to push notifications - the #1 purpose of any smart watch as a remote display of your out-of-sight phone. At the current moment, I can't properly review it until the final release of firmware and companion phone app is available. In general, the camera is really useful as POV action video cam, but awkward to take pictures. Bracelet is made out of a very cheap rubber material. The watch is a bit bulky, but it feels VERY solid inside of metal casing. Display is responsive, and the issues I'm seeing (like sometime back swipe from within apps doesn't respond as Back android key) probably due to firmware issues. Once a final firmware/software is released - this smartwatch going to SHINE!!! But until then, I will wait before writing my review. It's funny how a lot of people pre-ordered Dev edition in hope to receive it asap, but getting it earlier doesn't mean they can start enjoying it to full potential right away.

GG has 4.2.2 lol

Interesting to read these posts--in the light of current Non-News from Omate--I realise that @vectron and @lokifish have both got their hands on versions of the TrueSmart but, most of the rest of us are still waiting to form any sort of opinion.
Some folks talk about 'asking for refunds' based on some negative feedback, delivery date shenanigans, etc.. but I am still waiting, fairly patiently, to really find out what the Omate is all about.
P.S. I found @ClearD's website with comparisons of most current Smartwatches very interesting--thanks.

For me, its the Truesmart. I don't want a big phone and the 5" phones are so powerful now that the screen isn't capable of keeping up. For example, Injustice: Gods Among Us and other HD games can't be fully appreciated on a phone. Surfing the web is a pain.
So I've switched to using a tablet for games, surfing, watching movies etc. I will use the watch for simple things like picking up MMS, emails, phone calls etc while I'm out the house. If I'm at the gym or out for a run, I don't need to bring a phone, I'll just wear the watch.
If I'm travelling, I'll take my tablet and use the watch to create a WiFi hotspot.
This means I don't need amazing specs from the watch but the stand alone phone function and ability to create a WiFi hotspot are critical. I will upgrade my tablet instead of my phone, which is a much cheaper option - new tablets cost £200-£300, whereas new phones are £600ish.
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I had a Sony smartwatch 2, it was a boring device and I don't know why. Today I have a Galaxy gear and I love it, now that we can enable notifications for every app, I really love it. I am considering buying a Qualcom Toq, does anyone have one and want to share your opinions?
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DIGGRO DI06 - Information & Reviews - 1.39" AMOLED | MT6580M | Android 5.1 | 2MP Cam

DIGGRO DI06 - Information & Reviews - 1.39" AMOLED | MT6580M | Android 5.1 | 2MP Cam
DIGGRO DI06
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Specs:
Chassis: Metal
SoC: MediaTek MT6580M
CPU: ARM Cortex-A7, 1001 MHz, Cores: 4
GPU: ARM Mali-400 MP1, Cores: 1
RAM: 1 GB
Storage: 16 GB
Memory cards: None
Display: 1.39 in, AMOLED, 400 x 400 pixels
Protection:
Battery: 350 mAh
OS: Android 5.1 (Heavily Customized)
Camera: 2MP, SuperPix Sensor
SIM card: Single-SIM, Nano Size
Wi-Fi: b, g, n 2.4GHz, single-band, Wi-Fi Hotspot
USB: 2.0, Magnetic Dock
Bluetooth: 4.0 LE
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS
Other Features:
Colors: Black, Silver
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Official Website:
https://www.diggro.com/collections/smart-watch/products/diggro-di06
Official Firmware
goo.gl/bB3a5n
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Reviews:
My own review: Post #2
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Review
Introduction
This is the DIGGRO DI06
Part of the nowadays common rebrands, this DI06 from DIGGRO features the same hardware you would find on a low-end 3G smartphone, mostly for power-saving reasons. Together with the MT6580M chipset, there is only 1GB of RAM and 16GB of Storage, all packed in a Metal Chassis and an AMOLED screen, probably the most interesting feature of this device.
Unboxing
A pretty basic set of accessories in included in the package: 1x Charging Dock, 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x Screwdriver, 1x Kit of extra screws, 1x Manual and the Smartwatch (of course). Unfortunately there isn't any spare screen protector even though one is pre-applied.
The charging dock looks nice, but in reality it comes with a pretty important flaw: almost inexistent magnet. It only sticks to the back without holding the smartwatch in place, and the magnet is so weak that even the lightest movement would cause it to detach. A bit disappointing.
Design & Features
Something really premium about this device is the front glass. It is 2.5D curved and perfectly inserted in the metal chassis, similar to the implementation you get on a smartphone.
Quality-wise everything feels premium too thanks to the Metal Chassis. No imperfections noticed. Its weight is decent, only 63g, not much considering the material.
On the right side there is only one key that works as a back/power button, with a nice tactile feedback. Just below the key, there is a mini 2MP camera (i call it the Spy Camera considering the position) and the main microphone.
As regards the left side, there is only a grill (not bear...) for the speaker.
The whole back side is made of Plastic, with a removable cover for the SIM-Card Slot, the Heart-Rate Sensor and 4-pins for the Magnetic Dock. I was not able to notice any corrosion on the pins after ~1 month of usage.
Luckily, even though i do not like OLED screen too much, this model features an AMOLED panel with a resolution of 400x400 pixels. On a smartwatch this is a must feature for power-saving and real blacks, and i can confirm its quality. Also, it is really bright, but due its limited size i was not able to measure the lux value.
I have been testing lots of smartbands and smartwatches since i started to review tech. devices, and the band used on this device is actually pretty good. It attracts some dusts just like most rubber-bands, but it doesn't get dirty neither it causes the wrist to sweat/fell hot. Let's say a stress-free band. Unfortunately it isn't replaceable, or at least not with something generic since antennas are inside the band.
Software and Usage
Sadly, the software isn't "premium" at all. It runs on a heavily customized version of Android 5.1 with June 2016 security patches. Still, it runs really really smooth with no lags, something i wasn't expecting considering the custom OS.
In order to show you all customizations made to the OS, i made a video that, hopefully, is enough to provide an overview of what i am talking about. The video doesn't feature any voice, so you can mute it or just listen to the included music.
The OS recommends to install an app called "WiiWear" to sync all notifications with the device but it literally sucks, so, as recommended by the company itself, i switched to another app called "Watch Droid" that works perfectly, with no connectivity issues, plus, it allows to reply to messages with personalized templates.
V AVOID THIS APP! V
Instead, install this on your smartphone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidphone
and this one on the smartwatch: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidassistant
Just some screenshots about the Watch Droid app and the Bluetooth Connection.
Something that impressed me is the built-in mini camera, it is made by SuperPix and provides some great photos considering the low resolution. Sure, it doesn't support auto-focus, but it is way better than most spy camera available on the market. Really impressive.
Here you can see some samples.
Finally, as regards the Battery Life, the 350mAh built-in battery doesn't help much, but at least i was able to reach 1 day and a half of usage without any SIM-Card inserted, but with both BT and WiFi turned on and no battery saving options active. With some software customizations it should be possible to reach at least two/three days of usage, coming later
Conclusion
I don't know how other models released by DIGGRO are so it hard to say whether this is an upgrade or not compared to a previously released model. This DI06 is a solid piece of hardware that requires some software improvements, or at least provide the Watch Droid app by default.
The AMOLED screen together with the impressive build quality definitely make it a step above others i tested, but it is still far from an Android Wear Smartwatch.
Honestly, i can recommend this smartwatch to those who can't spend the extra for an Android Wear model, just consider everything written above and keep following this thread for updates and possible improvements that i will provide. I promise to not abandon this model ^^.
Pros:
Excellent Build Quality
Bright AMOLED screen
Decent built-in Camera
High Quality Band
Cons:
Unpolished and not updated Software
Terrible Magnetic Dock
Slightly outdated hardware
Pricy (based on the official pricing)
Rating: 8.2
Packaging and Accessories: 6.5
Design and Materials: 10
Performance & Usage: 9.5
Screen: 9.5
Sound: 8
Battery Life: 7
Price: 7
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: https://imgur.com/a/MvvVk
Official Website: https://www.diggro.com/collections/smart-watch/products/diggro-di06
You can buy it on many online shops. Official, and authorized, Retailers are listed in the DIGGRO website.​

Nice review, thanks. What might make this desirable until Jan. 27, is that’s it’s on sale!
ONLY FOR US$98.99 WITH CODE DiggroDI06
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burrzoo said:
Nice review, thanks. What might make this desirable until Jan. 27, is that’s it’s on sale!
ONLY FOR US$98.99 WITH CODE DiggroDI06
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It should be the retail price imho. Anyway, thanks for the alert.

A few disassembly photos:

Good review, I have this watch myself but suffer poor battery, maybe 8-10 hours usage with screen mostly off. I use my Apple watch most of the time but this sits on my shelf until I can get better battery performance.
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Do u think there's a possibility to change watch strap and replacing antennas into the new one ?

Alti_14 said:
Do u think there's a possibility to change watch strap and replacing antennas into the new one ?
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I doubt it very much.
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Hey
I bought that watch, too.
Is it possible to change faces?
What sport application can you put on or go through with a blue tooth?
I'm only one day with him, and the battery was not enough for a whole day ... Is your battery the same? ?
Thank you .

Alberto96 said:
Finally, as regards the Battery Life, the 350mAh built-in battery doesn't help much, but at least i was able to reach 1 day and a half of usage without any SIM-Card inserted, but with both BT and WiFi turned on and no battery saving options active. With some software customizations it should be possible to reach at least two/three days of usage, coming later
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I'm very surprised!
I have X3/K9 and in airplane mode with occasional time checking it lasts about 6-9 days. And 2-3 days with 3G on, but I mostly have it off.
But after 1-2 years with it I'm looking for new watch with AMOLED.
How long it stay in airplane mode?

5 hours at most...

Did you try to examine what is battery hog in Battery Usage History option in Settings?
Maybe it is some process or app?

App Scaling
Thanks for the review. I am actually using a similar watch (DI01). I installed the Watch Droid and it works very well. I have 2 questions for those who have similar watches.
1. The Watch droid actually draws over my clockface when i unlock the watch everytime which is annoying as I unlock to see the time.
2. How do you scale apps full screen. My apps appear as square boxes and tiny.

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nabeeltariq said:
Thanks for the review. I am actually using a similar watch (DI01). I installed the Watch Droid and it works very well. I have 2 questions for those who have similar watches.
1. The Watch droid actually draws over my clockface when i unlock the watch everytime which is annoying as I unlock to see the time.
2. How do you scale apps full screen. My apps appear as square boxes and tiny.
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Hi,
I have the DI07 and the o/s looks like the same as mine. To go full screen hold the button to get the turn off option and at the very top you'll see a small white square. This is the option for letterbox or full screen. Tap that and you should get full screen on your watch

Awesome. That fixes one of my problems. Thanks.

Diggro DI06
I want Diggro DI06 USB driver.
THX.

Hi, Does anybody have a link for a replacement charger for this? Or perhaps an alternate compatible charger?

Jimshnoo said:
Hi, Does anybody have a link for a replacement charger for this? Or perhaps an alternate compatible charger?
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Hello!
There is also 2: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Watc...dwide-Shipping-/223038053180?oid=173366689527
https://www.ebay.de/itm/1-Stuck-Sma...t-Kabel/192411389206?hash=item2ccc9ccd16:g:-c
I have ordered the latter and are good at it.

Hi . I've downloaded watchmaker to try out their fabulous watch faces , but the the diggro DI06 isn't on their list plus it's asking for a companion app !!!
My watch is paired with the phone. I receive all notifications. But I can't use watchmaker. Can someone shed some light on this on how to .
Thanks

Battery life
So are there any similar (or better) spec to this full Android watches with decent battery life? What brought me here was the D101. Its form factor looked great.
Thanks