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I don't know what happened but I'm having issues. I cannot get the display to fall below 75% and it sucks because between my EVO stock battery and my extended battery you can actually see the battery life being sucked away rapidly.
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I am having the same issue with my display can't figure out. What
Rom are you using I am using swag Rom
Iturned of the auomatic brightness on my phone and set it manually since installing cm7
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jerrykur said:
Iturned of the auomatic brightness on my phone and set it manually since installing cm7
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This manual setting will lower it a ton don't need it at full brightness half the time.
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I have the same issue, it is isolated to Sense roms. It doesn't happen with AOSP, which is why those are the only roms I can use due to the battery life. We had a thread going for a while with some other people who had the same problem, but nobody could really get to the bottom of it. I reached out to Aamikam but he couldn't really help or didn't want to. I didn't know if a logcat or anything would have helped but no one really answered me. It happens on froyo and gingerbread sense roms, and I never had the issue for a long time but then I noticed it the first time on MikFroyo 4.62. I've tried everything since then but no results.
Only thing to do right now is switch to an AOSP rom, I highly recommend Team Nocturnal's Xplod. Very smooth with Tiamat 3.3.7 kernel and more eye candy than CM7. I would love to be able to use MikG again but my battery literally dies in 4 hours, regardless if I'm using the phone or not.
Alot of ppl seem to think that 75 percent or more of display is bad. Really it isn't. The battery stats need to equal 100 percent. On sense roms that's the way it is and there is nothing wrong with it. Now if your experiencing high.android system usage, that's a problem. As long as everything else is relatively low, its all good
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Its after I installed the new update. Even downgraded to earlier gingerbread and still 75 plus.
Yes my system is low but I can watch my battery meter lower in realtime. Well I guess its time for a new toy.
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Prene said:
Its after I installed the new update. Even downgraded to earlier gingerbread and still 75 plus.
Yes my system is low but I can watch my battery meter lower in realtime. Well I guess its time for a new toy.
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If your actively using your phone and it drains rapidly that's pretty normal in my experience. But if its draining a lot during idle, check for a rogue running app. Otherwise not using auto brightness is a good mentioned trick along with underclocking with a new kernel should help
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It has to do with the use of a generic power_profile.xml. Neither CM or stock use correct values for this.
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Alot of ppl seem to think that 75 percent or more of display is bad. Really it isn't. The battery stats need to equal 100 percent. On sense roms that's the way it is and there is nothing wrong with it. Now if your experiencing high.android system usage, that's a problem. As long as everything else is relatively low, its all good
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You don't get it...this is not normal display usage. I remember what my battery usage and battery life was like before this problem came up and there was a huge difference. Before, cell standby was my highest usage and I could get 25-30 hours on a charge. Then display usage shot up to 90% give or take some, and battery life dropped to 4-8 hours. I can understand if display was slightly higher than everything else, but display is at 75-95% while everything else is under 5 or 10. There is absolutely no reason why the display usage should be that high even when the screen has been OFF the entire time. That's not normal. I have multiple screen shots to back it up.
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It has to do with the use of a generic power_profile.xml. Neither CM or stock use correct values for this.
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Is there a way to fix or change this? And is there a reason why it happens to some people but not others?
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Well if its been off then I don't have the slightest clue.
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So using bootmanager (finally works now) I loaded miui. And my display is no higher than 1%. So something is very very wrong with sense and 4.5 updates.
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Just finished my latest raft of battery saving tweaks for my rooted s3 and here are the results.
I consider myself a medium user and managed to get 54 hours off my last charge. Interested to see how other people's experiences match up to mine.
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Look at your Awake and Screen on times.
Might as well leave your mobile untouched for 2.5 days.
What matters is screen on time, not how long between charges, if you only use your phone for 5 mins a day you will wait a long time between charges. I can get 4 hours screen time which is decent (That's 4 hours in one day) So in theory if I use my phone for 1 hour a day I should get 4 days usage out of it.
All it shows is you don't use your phone much, show me a screen time of more than 6 hours and I will check out the battery tweak in use (as long as I can still use my phone)
Ok will post my screen on time stats from my next charge, pretty sure it's more than six hours.
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What's the point of having these devices if you'll use them like regular phones. I see no apps in your battery details. Obviously you're unlocking your device only for phone calls and swiping between screens and app drawer because of boredom.
Better to get a nokia 3310 and never care about battery again...
There you go Delsus just got home from a day out onsite plus the commute back & forth - 8 hours screen on time.
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Cool, so what exactly is your "tweak"?
The second image is "screen on time" though
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one more,but not mine.
when i will have time i will try to see how much "screen on" i can reach (although i can reach 8 hours of text reading, i doubt that i will reach that playing NOVA.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36325089&postcount=469
there is also another topic where we have shared our tweaks using Stweaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2071967
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The second image is "screen on time" though
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then share with us ur tweak
i am currently using Null 15.1 with siyah kernel
i used to let my Wifi on the whole time to test it and with screen on + downloads time to time..
Max time :8hrs
Min time : 7hrs.
A bit of background I use my phone for work & spend alot of time away from a power supplier (either a plug socket or my car charger) & was finding my battery was fried within about 4 hours of constant use.
By researching & implementing battery tweaks (which don't affect the performance of my phone) and I've managed to get it up to 8 hours.
I'd be happy to post my battery tweaks for others to use, what I'm interested in is other user's experiences to benchmark against.
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The problem is a lot of noobs post junk or badly researched / bench marked stuff .or even exact same battery life posts week after week . We have three identical topics in the first three pages of General as it is .
Hence regular users are cynics after all it is a developers forum not some childish fix my phone look at my quadrant forum .
Well researched logical topics don't get attacked .
jje
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A bit of background I use my phone for work & spend alot of time away from a power supplier (either a plug socket or my car charger) & was finding my battery was fried within about 4 hours of constant use.
By researching & implementing battery tweaks (which don't affect the performance of my phone) and I've managed to get it up to 8 hours.
I'd be happy to post my battery tweaks for others to use, what I'm interested in is other user's experiences to benchmark against.
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Do you mind sharing your tweaks, would be interesting to see.
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Finally some members with a modicum of common sense. Yes will post a full list of apps & settings when I get home this evening.
FYI although my background is in Linux based sysadmin I've not gone seriously 'under the hood' merely used apps that are properly configured & applied system tweaks via root.
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Can you please post the battery tweaks which made your mobile 8 hours of screen ontime?
so what happened to this? was he using his phone as an ebook?
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so what happened to this? was he using his phone as an ebook?
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Lol
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Shuryou said:
so what happened to this? was he using his phone as an ebook?
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i can get up to 9 hours screen on time while reading e-books (wattpad) and a few texts using whatsapp though with wifi on and still have 10% juice left with 11-12 hours of battery usage:silly: is that count as having a superb battery life? just curious though
losta said:
i can get up to 9 hours screen on time while reading e-books (wattpad) and a few texts using whatsapp though with wifi on and still have 10% juice left with 11-12 hours of battery usage:silly: is that count as having a superb battery life? just curious though
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Which ROM you are using? You are using the airplane mode?
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So I have had good battery from my note 2 - recently got a s4 love it! But 65 percent of the battery is used by the screen on automatic battery. I had a custom ROM it said the screen was taking a smaller percentage of my screen. Is this a fact or was I dreaming?
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The screen using the battery is because of you, the user. When the screen is off, it uses no battery. When it is on, it is using battery.
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It all depends on the user...heres some tips ive learned to lower that precentage:
1) lower brightness (I know obvious)
2) use dark themes/wallpapers (lighter colors use up kore battery than dark ones on amoled screen...and I believe pure black actualy turns off the pixels, so a pure black background may help)
Ehh thats actually all I can think of...thought I had more lol
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graydiggy said:
The screen using the battery is because of you, the user. When the screen is off, it uses no battery. When it is on, it is using battery.
But I don't understand. I had the note 2 and had auto brightness because I want to see the phone in the day light. It never had 62 percent or 50 whatever percent using the screen. With a custom ROM I had more battery with clean rom
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It depends on your usage. I am pretty sure that your daily usage is not the same. You do not get any screen usage with the screen turned off. Screen usage comes into play when the screen is on. For instance, yesterday, my screen took up 60% of my total usage. Today it was at 45%. A custom ROM has little to do with how the screen works.
Auto brightness varies as well... Too many factors that has nothing to do with the ROM. It is all user based.
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graydiggy said:
It depends on your usage. I am pretty sure that your daily usage is not the same. You do not get any screen usage with the screen turned off. Screen usage comes into play when the screen is on. For instance, yesterday, my screen took up 60% of my total usage. Today it was at 45%. A custom ROM has little to do with how the screen works.
Auto brightness varies as well... Too many factors that has nothing to do with the ROM. It is all user based.
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Alright. Well, it said using auto brightness could save battery usage. But sometimes I have the save battery option on. Thought I'm not sure it helps more. I actually went to try and look for a post about " better battery stats" but for some odd reason, when going to it using my phone, it lags ridiculously bad! I haven't gone on a computer to see if it was in fact my phone. But, all other posts and topics are fine
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The screen will always be number one user unless you didn't use your phone that day.
Like other people said, darker (black) themes. Set the time out really short and turn on Smart Screen. Auto brightness works fine for me, or you can manually turn it lower.
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Look into other kernels and what settings to use in those kernels. I use MDOB MF3 and CHRONIC kernel and I use my xda app,internet,videos,msgs,and a bunch of other apps like even Facebook.I unplugged my phone Saturday at 10:27am and m on xda replying now at 5:09am with 57% battery.
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Look into other kernels and what settings to use in those kernels. I use MDOB MF3 and CHRONIC kernel and I use my xda app,internet,videos,msgs,and a bunch of other apps like even Facebook.I unplugged my phone Saturday at 10:27am and m on xda replying now at 5:09am with 57% battery.
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But I thought I couldn't flash anything since having the latest update ?
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my bad
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But I thought I couldn't flash anything since having the latest update ?
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I m sorry I didn't read in your post that u r on the stock out of the box MF3.I m MDL base and run MF3 ROM .sorry again
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I m sorry I didn't read in your post that u r on the stock out of the box MF3.I m MDL base and run MF3 ROM .sorry again
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Ohh. Yea I wanna flash a ROM and root !
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you CAN root with MF3 and its locked bootloader -- you just can't flash any other roms!
So I'm trying to find out if I'm the only one getting terrible life out of my battery. I used to get 16 hours + and still have 10% left. Now, it drops about 15% an hour. I use less than 25% brightness.
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Your going to need to be a bit more specific.
I averaged 4.5-5 hours screen time when I first got my phone running MDL firmware. That is running everything as is right out the box with fairly heavy data usage.
That screen shot doesn't tell you squat.
I'm new to Android and I'm starting to hate my s4. I only get 2-3hrs screen time with this phone. Battery life is very terrible. I hate the fact that you to greenify stuffs just to maximize battery life. I'm using deadly venom 8.2 on mf3. Lux dash as auto brightness (I hate the fact that you have to lower the brightness settings to get better battery life?)
I'm usually on wifi, on my better battery stats, I go 3-4.5% per hour when I'm not using it which can last the whole day but once I use it, it just eats up the batter from 15%-25%max per hour usage. Very disappointing.
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I'm new to Android and I'm starting to hate my s4. I only get 2-3hrs screen time with this phone. Battery life is very terrible. I hate the fact that you to greenify stuffs just to maximize battery life. I'm using deadly venom 8.2 on mf3. Lux dash as auto brightness (I hate the fact that you have to lower the brightness settings to get better battery life?)
I'm usually on wifi, on my better battery stats, I go 3-4.5% per hour when I'm not using it which can last the whole day but once I use it, it just eats up the batter from 15%-25%max per hour usage. Very disappointing.
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Not to be rude but go back to the iPhone if you don't like android simple as that people on craigslist will trade an iPhone 5/5c for your gs4. You've already made several threads and comments about this right now. I get great battery life plus iOS 7 is way too colorful.
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That screen shot doesn't tell you squat.
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Yeah obviously... Sorry, this xda app could really use some updating... I tried uploading 3 pictures... That was the last one... I'll try to take another screenshot after another normal days use.
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This is my use so far...? Seem normal?
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Seems normal. Only dropped 5% in 1 hour 15 minutes in your screenshot instead of 15% you said in your first post. You could try turning off those google services you dont use.
Is there a mod or something I can do to disable this? I don't know if it already exists or not but I'm running hyperdrive and my battery life is crazy good and 5% usually means I have about 30 minutes left and it would be nice if I could actually see my screen at this level. Thanks guys
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