[Q] best de-bloated touchwiz rom? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

hi folks, can't seem to find a better place for this than the general area - hope this is alright. i've been enjoying the CM 10.2 nightlies for some time, but find myself missing a few of my s4's touchwiz camera features, like the fast burst shooting. is there any ROM that combines these such things or am i asking for too much?
perhaps the real question should be, what is the best custom version of touchwiz that makes it feel the snappiest and most like aosp? i've come across GoldenEye, and MDOB... am I getting warmer?

It's your first post so I'd suggest you read the forum rules. "Best" threads are frowned upon. They're is no best, just what you like best. So try some. What works for me might not work for you.

Agree with jd and mod will probably close thread
That said try Goldeneye or Vision. Solid, error free, and have options thru Aroma to customize. You can also freeze bloatware still there in Titanium BackUp.
You'll have to read Rom OP to see if features you want are still there--

rugmankc said:
Agree with jd and mod will probably close thread
That said try Goldeneye or Vision. Solid, error free, and have options thru Aroma to customize. You can also freeze bloatware still there in Titanium BackUp.
You'll have to read Rom OP to see if features you want are still there--
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I mean, lets be careful with using phrases like "error free". All ROMs come with errors. With that said OP and before this thread is locked, what I swear by won't necessarily be up to your standard. Best bet, take each ROM for a spin a week at a time. I think with the quality devs here you'll find something that suits your needs. Happy flashing!!:good:

There really is no "best rom." I suggest you go look through the Development sections and look for the TW based ROM that best fits your needs.

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Best rom for my epic 4g?

Hey guys, hoping you guys can give some insight to a noob on this. I am looking to install a good rom on my phone. I'm leaning how to do this, but what I am looking for is speed and functionality. Themes are not that important, but would be cool. I do have the DK28 and is rooted, so I might need a good video to show me how to rom this phone properly. But as far as rom's go, I'm looking for one that is a really good rom.
Thanks in advance
Mike
Welcome to Rooting your phone. As far as the best ROM? There is no one best ROM, everyone has a different preference and outlook on speed. Any of the latest EXT4 ROMs will probably suit you though. Here is a link that will help you pretty much with everything you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700
They have guides on how to ROOT, ROM, THEME and other things. It has the links to kernels, roms, themes all there. Hope that helps, and good luck.
mazspeed said:
Hey guys, hoping you guys can give some insight to a noob on this. I am looking to install a good rom on my phone. I'm leaning how to do this, but what I am looking for is speed and functionality. Themes are not that important, but would be cool. I do have the DK28 and is rooted, so I might need a good video to show me how to rom this phone properly. But as far as rom's go, I'm looking for one that is a really good rom.
Thanks in advance
Mike
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I have had good experience with most all of them:
ACS
Nebula
Mammon
Quantum
Viper
Im going to the new Nebula (twin Jets) now with EXT4
Have fun and good luck
What's EX-4? I'm not familar with that. Also is there a page to show these roms as I know new ones are coming out all the time. tHANKS AGAIN FOR THE POSTS.
This belongs in general not development, noob.
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I didn't see noob post anywhere in this thread...
Oh I'm sorry you were trying to be an unhelpful jackass, got ya
Thanks NNYfan.
Some people right? lol
Viper Rom or Supernova are my favorite
popularbelief420 said:
This belongs in general not development, noob.
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Cool thanks. Are there any video's that show how these are installed? I saw some on youtube, but they were not that great of quality, and was unable to really get a good view of how to do it.
Thanks again
Videos
These videos don't show how they are installed but give a nice overview of some of the most popular current roms. I found them really useful.
http://www.youtube.com/user/randyshear#p/u
Thanks viper. I'm looking though them now. Just trying to find a video on how to install a rom. I have picked one out and looking for instruction on how t install. I don't want to brick the phone since it's my company phone.
I did it. Viper rom installed. Was not too hard. Found a good video for it. Thanks for the help everyone.
mazspeed said:
I did it. Viper rom installed. Was not too hard. Found a good video for it. Thanks for the help everyone.
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The fun part is thanks to nandroid backups you can try out a ton of roms (I flash a new one every couple of days, now I'm back at dl18 playing the waiting game)
From what i've seen most roms share all of the major fixes and use similar tweaks and optimizations that they borrow from other devs... and the only notable difference i've seen between them is theme and how much they include in the rom extras wise (apps, live wallpapers, etc).
Viper rom has a lot of updates but I wasnt too much of a fan of the overall look of it
Mammons bonsai rom is lovely and I <3 it
Midnight Rom is excellent too and one of the best themes in my opinion, though if i remember correctly he does away with Twiz launcher and uses launcher pro(could be mistaken though i'm really tired and have used too many roms)
Epic Experience was the first rom that I flashed and works great, but I was mainly playing with the others lately since they have more frequent updates
Quantum Rom - daemon is brilliant and am looking forward to his next release
Supernova - I did try it out but I honestly don't remember what features it had
Nebula - Tried this out too, supposed to be more stable/straight forward rom for stable professional people who dont want inflated quadrant scores or flashy live wallpapers (I might be quoting a different rom, if so i apologize)
Syndicate Rom - Awesome as well but its not for dk28 xD
Overall all the roms are amazing the only differences REALLY notable to me is that some use AOSP lockscreen by default, some use TWiz lock/launcher, some use ADW... launcher pro... but all of that is changeable with a flashable zip/apk...I tend to prefer mammon and quantum rom nowadays since iirc mammon made the call log fix and gps fix and daemon is doing all this ext4/cwm work and they seem to be leading up the race with innovation and knowledge (not saying others arent knowledgeable... i know nothing of developing i'm just guessing here)
EDIT: forgot to mention, only reason im not on dk28 right now is that personally I have minor bugs with it such as the one where you call somebody and it doesnt ring or make any sound but it actually calls them, and some other minor issues. I figured i'd wait for official froyo to drop and continue testing out roms when I get bored
Oh and theres also cyanogen mod which is sexy and amazing but is prebeta and buggy (signal bars not working, MMS is broken, etc)
Although I agree that he could have been nicer about it, these posts absolutely do not belong in the development forum. Questions about "which rom is best for me?" Definitely belong in general. The reason some people (myself included) aren't often very nice about it is becase it is increasingly becoming a problem. The op really should take the time to read the stickies before cluttering up the dev forum. Everyone should.
Also, calling someone a jackass- even if they are being one- almost never shows them the error of their ways.
NYYFan325 said:
I didn't see noob post anywhere in this thread...
Oh I'm sorry you were trying to be an unhelpful jackass, got ya
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Thanks to both of you. I as a beginner in this didn't know where to post. Thanks for the lessons.
Mike
P.S If I do change rom's do I have to flash everytime and lose my apps and info? I save contacts on the SD card, but will stick with viper rom if I have to flash the phone for other roms. It get's kind of time consuming.
mazspeed said:
Thanks to both of you. I as a beginner in this didn't know where to post. Thanks for the lessons.
Mike
P.S If I do change rom's do I have to flash every time and lose my apps and info? I save contacts on the SD card, but will stick with viper rom if I have to flash the phone for other roms. It get's kind of time consuming.
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It is best to get titanium backup (from the market) that way u can back up your apps and you can use Backup to Gmail (also from the market) to backup contacts, call log, and messages. That makes flashing different roms a lot easier. (In my opinion)
NYYFan325 said:
I didn't see noob post anywhere in this thread...
Oh I'm sorry you were trying to be an unhelpful jackass, got ya
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This does not belong here. Follow the forum rules. Even this little rom question belongs on General!
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Thread moved to General.
mazspeed said:
Thanks to both of you. I as a beginner in this didn't know where to post. Thanks for the lessons.
Mike
P.S If I do change rom's do I have to flash everytime and lose my apps and info? I save contacts on the SD card, but will stick with viper rom if I have to flash the phone for other roms. It get's kind of time consuming.
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Aside from titanium (which i never really used much, guess I should try it out as it can make backups every night while you sleep if you set it to)
You can also make a NANDroid backup via rom manager//clockwork mod which when you restore will restore everything down to cache to be the same. same texts in your inbox even xD.
EDIT: Also if you have your phone linked to a google account when you go through the setup wizard (on some roms) it auto downloads the apps you had installed before from the market as well as contacts, etc. But if you want an instant restore to the same settings/wifi/etc then I prefer nandroid (idk if titanium does all that I think it just backups apps)
also note that along with most roms you can customize them to your liking. you can change the boot animations (given they use a kernel that allows it... if the rom has a custom boot animation already it'd work by flashign one in CWM), theme, battery look, keyboard, launch options, lockscreen. You could always just get a not-flashy basic rom that incorporates the basic fixes that people want (faster gps lock/5mb mms/call log fix) and theme it all yourself in the themes and apps subforum. The gingerbread theme is nice and nova has a list of boot animations and battery mods in his supernova rom page :3. If you're interested in that I'd say go for epic experience as I'm partial to it and he includes an "extras" page with downloads to all that hes removed such as the live wallpapers, samsung widgets, etc.

[ROMs] What does not work in each rom

I've been endlessly scouring this section of the forums for the last few weeks trying to figure out which rom would work best for me. There is one problem though, I can't for the life of me figure out which things work/do not work in each of the major roms. It's really important to me that nothing/minimal is broken in a rom that I choose. I'm hoping to make and maintain a list of specifically what does NOT work in each rom to help make the choices easier to sift through. The 1st posts of official rom threads usually have some things listed, but reading through the (million page) threads yields more issues.
The only problem, however, may be that most people are using a different combo of kernal/rom/hardware which obviously changes things, so I'm hoping to try and sift through that too. Perhaps make some tables to make it easier.
The Evo rom wiki has tables but only outlines basic functions.
*Mods: thought long and hard about which section to put this in, I think it's best served here.
*Devs: I'd love personal input here if possible. Thanks.
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*Mods: thought long and hard about which section to put this in, I think it's best served here
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Just sayin. This section is supposed to be for posting ROMs and development related items.
I'm not a mod so It's up to them, but, this should be in Q&A.
JoeLithium said:
Just sayin. This section is supposed to be for posting ROMs and development related items.
I'm not a mod so It's up to them, but, this should be in Q&A.
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Well, it is directly related to ROMs and development, but yeah if this isn't the right section please move it.
I totally understand the problem your having though. It's a bit unorganized but it's partially because of the vast development community that the Evo has. There is a wiki at the top of this section that might grant a little more insight. I don't know if it's exactly what your looking for.
P.S.
I do like to play "forum police" though I'm not a mod. I can understand why you posted here and it wasn't a blatant disregard for the rules. So no biggy to me anyway. The reason I get pissed is because it's already so cluttered that more threads make it that much harder.
You have to look in the OP of each thread in the android decelopement section and choose based on what you need from your phone and what you want. Myn's warm twopointtwo works perfectly for a sense rom and there is a cyanogenmod 7 beta with ewimax out now. So it has everything but HDMI working for a gingerbread aosp rom
Well here are some tips for you:
If it's a stock based Sense rom then everything should work unless the dev is an idiot.
If it's an AOSP rom then everything but hdmi and 4g should work (and 4g actually has a fix and can be made to work now)
If it's a port of another rom then hdmi, 4g, and typically the camera won't work (but this usually gets fixed). Sometimes various sensors aren't working properly either (like orientation)
We take a stock Rom and a stock kernel and twist the hell out of it way beyond its means and then ***** about what works and what does not!
Bad topic!
Devs don't want to hear this crap that what pm's
Are for and ops and such I understand you but worthless topic and it only benefits you and not the community!
You can't even follow edicit
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I had the same problem as you a while back. In my opinion, if you are rooted you have already done the hard work. You now have a custom recovery with nandroid, a godsend, which you can use to fall back on if anything were to go wrong. My advice would be to just take the plunge. Grab a handful of ROMS that sound suitable to your needs and start to flash them. If you get stuck in bootloops or the ROM isn't what you want, all you have to do is nandroid and start over. I would recommend to give each ROM at least 2 battery cycles before you decide. On my setup, it seems to take a bit to "settle in". I think if you tried to make tables of ALL possibilities it would be mind boggling to sift through.
I realize this isn't a direct answer to your question, its just my thoughts. Hope it helps and good luck!
eVoKINGS said:
We take a stock Rom and a stock kernel and twist the hell out of it way beyond its means and then ***** about what works and what does not!
Bad topic!
Devs don't want to hear this crap that what pm's
Are for and ops and such I understand you but worthless topic and it only benefits you and not the community!
You can't even follow edicit
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To the Op, If its sense based, nothing will be broken. If the rom is AOSP, then 4G and HDMI are broken, however Cyanogenmod is the only AOSP rom with a semi-functional 4G. Also if the rom is Gingerbread 4G, and HDMI are broken, and likewise again, Cyanogenmod 7 is the only Gingerbread mod with a semi-working 4G. The way the ROM's work right now unless its an alpha wimax ROM for AOSP, then flashing a different kernel won't affect the features of the ROM, unless you forgot to wipe before flashing. You can simplify your list down to 2 categories Sense and AOSP, if its SENSE everything works, if its AOSP, 4g and HDMI are broken, and under the AOSP you can list the 2 Alpha releases of wimax for Cyanogen.
Simply put, if you want everything to work, then try these Sense based Roms:
Mikfroyo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
Myn's Warm: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
Calkulin's EVIO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745205
If you don't mind not having 4G(or don't live in a 4G area), and don't plan to use HDMI, then check out these AOSP Roms:
MIUI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527
Cyanogen mod 6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735596
Evervolv (gingerbread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878020
Cyanogen mod7 (gingerbread): 2 Links below
ROM: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?type=nightly&device=supersonic
GAPPS: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110120-signed.zip
*****To eVoKINGS******
Learn manners please KINGS, the guy thought he had the correct section, and apologized if it was the incorrect section and requested it be moved. If you don't like it don't post in it, he was already informed by others that it was the incorrect section, and then you had to try and jump down his throat about it.
Your posts are composed like they belong to a 12 year old kid googling words to sound older. You can't blame it on auto-correct, I use my EVO to compose a-lot of text messages and the words are never misspelled because I proof read what I type with it, so that I don't come across jabbering like an idiot.
And yes i realize my retort back at Kings is completely contradictory to what I had just typed.
Thanks so much. I was just trying to help the 'tweeners' in my position, those who have some but not too much experience with roms. And the entire reason I even asked/bothered to offer my time was because each ROM thread has numerous issues that are hard to decipher as being general widespread issues, or single isolated issues, and the process of sifting through gargantuan threads is pretty tedious.
small example: some roms have keyboard display issues
But I digress
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And to eVoKings, yeah it's awesome that you take a kernel and rom and twist the hell out of it, but in the end I'm the one using the kernel/rom and still want it to be fully functional (and everybody has a different definition of what exactly that constitutes). I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people who actually THANK devs, it's great. But you have to learn to take criticism too (even if it's free)

ROMs ROMs and more ROMs

Can someone tell me whats up with the 50+ ICS ROMs? It's a bit concerning that all this effort seems to be put into reproducing the same exact thing. I think the community would benefit from cooperation rather than competition... But I feel like I must be missing something here, I am new to the Nexus S but not to Android, is there something about the Nexus S community that I'm not getting?
Not complaining at all, or should I say, I'm not trying to complain. I also want to point out that I appreciate the developers who pour their time and effort into our devices and help us to get the maximum value out of them.
(Want to note, I am running AOSP's ICS build and loving it.)
joenathane said:
Can someone tell me whats up with the 50+ ICS ROMs? It's a bit concerning that all this effort seems to be put into reproducing the same exact thing. I think the community would benefit from cooperation rather than competition... But I feel like I must be missing something here, I am new to the Nexus S but not to Android, is there something about the Nexus S community that I'm not getting?
Not complaining at all, or should I say, I'm not trying to complain. I also want to point out that I appreciate the developers who pour their time and effort into our devices and help us to get the maximum value out of them.
(Want to note, I am running AOSP's ICS build and loving it.)
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Hey Man, I am much similar to where you are right now. I am not new to Nexus S or Android, but I feel that the abundance of ROMs is a good thing.
Having so many ROMs shows that the device is still running very strong: Something Android phones NEED to have behind them.
On the other hand I dislike it. To all the developers out there, I think you guys are amazing and genius no doubt. So take the following lightly...
What people don't like to see when browsing for a ROM is a dozen ROMs that are all identical. We need something new and fresh, hence why I like MIUI.
What I think should be done is as you said, have co-operation to make one master ROM because we have hundreds of people in the Nexus S community ready to help.
Speaking on my behalf I HATE SO MANY ROMs Because I simply cannot decide which is best because they are all similar in many ways, and I don't have time to try each one out as much as I want to. I do like having these ROMs but when it comes to choosing one its a big choice for me.
Any feedback on this?
I agree with a not so great abundance or ROMs. But most are not devs. They are simply "chefs" because they never actually developed anything. They just price and scrap things from source to mods. Cm9, ASOP, Peter A(because of his radios and kernal) are devs. We have lots of chefs.
I made brickROM just because of this situation. Its never been done, but the community wasn't ready for it yet.
Either way you can tell what rom has Is "real" I would say there's about only 5
And its sad for new Android users that come here get presided by a catching slogan and rob themselves from using a much better rom
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What would you do if you don't like any of the existing ROMs? May be one is missing a feature you need, another just has too many features you don't want? The answer is simple -- create your own ROM, or modify an existing one... I think most devs just make the ROM they want to use as their daily driver and simply share it here (i.e. what's going on is not about competition, at least from my point of view)
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that
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What would you do if you don't like any of the existing ROMs? May be one is missing a feature you need, another just has too many features you don't want? The answer is simple -- create your own ROM, or modify an existing one... I think most devs just make the ROM they want to use as their daily driver and simply share it here (i.e. what's going on is not about competition, at least from my point of view)
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that
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But these futures found in everyone's ROM are just mods that you can flash. I flash 8 zips with every rom update but I know that a personal mix so I have no need to share it.
I'm capiale of changing my waklppaer
I flash custom font, and inverted apps with some tyranny Widgets and kernal. With gnex sounds. No reason to "cook" it. This is not development.
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suksit said:
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that
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The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen
joenathane said:
The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen
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I am agree with you CyanogenMod need a bug tracker for CM9.
Here is an interesting fact in case anyone didn't know but MR. Cyanogen himself is rocking a Nexus S http://twitter.com/#!/cyanogen/status/153353404159234049
I wonder what build of ICS he is running, probably from his own private reserve...
joenathane said:
The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen
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I will be honest here and say that I personally dislike Cyanogen Mod for the most part. True that they are the gut best in performance, but if the only ROM I had was Cyanogen, I would not be very happy with it. I just think that for my favor, Cyanogen focus' so much on power, yet takes the look of the ROM as a after thought. The modified music on Cyanogen ROMs and the overall execution of his work lacks style and design, as if he first said "Make it fast, then maybe make it look ok" MIUI on the other hand has a great deal invested in how it looks which gives a very effective illusion of performance.
I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.
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I will be honest here and say that I personally dislike Cyanogen Mod for the most part. True that they are the gut best in performance, but if the only ROM I had was Cyanogen, I would not be very happy with it. I just think that for my favor, Cyanogen focus' so much on power, yet takes the look of the ROM as a after thought. The modified music on Cyanogen ROMs and the overall execution of his work lacks style and design, as if he first said "Make it fast, then maybe make it look ok" MIUI on the other hand has a great deal invested in how it looks which gives a very effective illusion of performance.
I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.
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The only problem with that is Miui uses CyanogenMod code as a base(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI#Development) and CyanogenMod 7 has the theme chooser integrated for easy themeing(check the last three links in my signature to see some themes I created for it).
I don't think any mod team have contributed more to Android than the CyanogenMod Team, they certainly have my respect for that.
I agree about the spices, all these chefs cooking the same exact entree and now which on to choose...
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The only problem with that is Miui uses CyanogenMod code as a base(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI#Development)
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It's a fact, not a problem.
Back on topic,
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I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.
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I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.
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It's a fact, not a problem.
Back on topic,
I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.
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This^^ plus one thing, good all these chefs are popping up, that's showing a swell in number of people interested in development, in the end it can only have a positive outcome. Let em dev.
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It's a fact, not a problem.
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I obviously didn't mean problem in that sense, I meant it as in the 'problem' with his argument not the problem with CyanogenMod or Miui, I'm not sure how you interpreted it the way you did...
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I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.
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what about the "noobs" who are instantly confronted with 20+ ICS ROMs and not a clue to which is worth its weight in salt?
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I obviously didn't mean problem in that sense, I meant it as in the 'problem' with his argument not the problem with CyanogenMod or Miui, I'm not sure how you interpreted it the way you did...
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Sorry if I interpreted it wrong (English is not my native language anyway ) I thought you're trying to imply that "since MIUI is based on CM, @LGIQEXPO shouldn't compare them together" or "if you like MIUI, it means you already liked CM." Just wanted to say that it is not a problem if one wants to compare those two.
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what about the "noobs" who are instantly confronted with 20+ ICS ROMs and not a clue to which is worth its weight in salt?
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Occasionally I'd see a thread titled "Help me decide which ROM is best" and the most popular answer would be "Why don't you try them all?" Yeah it would be madness to try all 20+ ROMs in a row, but I don't think anyone will do that.
Before flashing a ROM, I'd (suggest them to) read everything in the first few posts by the OP, and take a look at the screenshots (most of the time I can decide if I will like this ROM or not by these two factors) If those "noobs" are not too ignorant I believe they'll have a small list of ROM(s) they want to try (may be 4-5 choices, which is reasonable.)
I know it is on the same code, but I more so meant the apps that MIUI re-did for their ROMs, and how they offer a nice end user appeal.
What would be amazing is if all the known devs of these ROMs would just once come together to use their own strengths, and make a mast ROM out of it. MIUI Design and style, Cyanogen tweaks and speed, Peter A. stability, the overclocking everything! (I can't wait for that hahah )
you want fewer rom, get a ns4g. Although we only have a fraction of the roms found in the other forum, they all seem to have their own distinct character.
i was using an SII before this so i was a frequent on that part of xda.. they do have a separate page for original development and another one for development (being kitchen products)
Hey,
Just wanted to add my opinion in all of this that there are so many "equal" roms.
I as some mentioned on another thread am a chef to rom developing, and I don't mind.
Why I do this is because I don't have the time or knowledge to create Android source apps so I take what I think is the best from each rom and create my own.
For example for me CM9 is way to bloated with too many configurations and options I prefer a more real cleaner AOSP, something like Peter Alfonso (buglessBeast), but I do like the T9 dialer from CM9, so I cherry-pick that from CM9 and add it to a PA base.
Also for the notifications power menu I liked TeamKang one so I added that. That way I'm making my own custom rom to my liking and also I don't have to be flashing 20 zips every time there is a new update or wipe my phone
I just thought on sharing it just if some one has the same likes in roms I'm no asking for anything in return. Also I do this in my little free time.
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mandaman2k said:
Hey,
Just wanted to add my opinion in all of this that there are so many "equal" roms.
I as some mentioned on another thread am a chef to rom developing, and I don't mind.
Why I do this is because I don't have the time or knowledge to create Android source apps so I take what I think is the best from each rom and create my own.
For example for me CM9 is way to bloated with too many configurations and options I prefer a more real cleaner AOSP, something like Peter Alfonso (buglessBeast), but I do like the T9 dialer from CM9, so I cherry-pick that from CM9 and add it to a PA base.
Also for the notifications power menu I liked TeamKang one so I added that. That way I'm making my own custom rom to my liking and also I don't have to be flashing 20 zips every time there is a new update or wipe my phone
I just thought on sharing it just if some one has the same likes in roms I'm no asking for anything in return. Also I do this in my little free time.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
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Thanks for adding your voice to the discourse.
If I was asked to offer an opinion on what you do, this is what I would say....
I think what you do is okay for you, but the problem is when you release it. There is a problem because as you state, you cherry pick features and/or "code" from other ROMs, and that can/will lead to issues for your user base. Lets take for example the T9 dialer, what happens when security bugs are found and fixed and optimizations make it into an update of the T9 dialer? Well that would mean you would need to update your ROM, but what if you're busy with your job or just with life and are too busy to get around to it? Well now your users of your ROM are without those security, bug fixes and optimizations, and multiply that by all the other pieces of the ROM that you cherry picked from other sources.
My point here to be clear is that due to the nature of your ROM, it will always lag in patches to security issues, bug fixes and optimizations and I think that is ultimately a disservice to your user base.
There is a value that you create, so I guess the question here is, does that value of bringing all these pieces into one convenient package outweigh the negatives of the lagging patches/fixes?
I mean no offense, and I hope this isn't taken as such, I just want to encourage some discourse on these things...

Most stable everyday ROM?

I don't know if this has been made before though i have seen "what is the best ROM".
Basically what i need is a nice and snappy rom for everyday use that won't kill the battery and won't kill all my ram like stock. Don't want this thread to turn into a war and be closed I just want useful answers Some roms i was looking at but haven't used are Paranoid and CyanogenMod 10
Cheers
j-man246 said:
I don't know if this has been made before though i have seen "what is the best ROM".
Basically what i need is a nice and snappy rom for everyday use that won't kill the battery and won't kill all my ram like stock. Don't want this thread to turn into a war and be closed I just want useful answers Some roms i was looking at but haven't used are Paranoid and CyanogenMod 10
Cheers
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just for testing, but stable version will comming soon
Aokp
Aokp is one of my favourite roms. This ones pretty stable and really light on battery. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716001
Another best Rom thread about to get locked! Read/test/form own opinion
Thread due to self destruct....3....2.....1......see ya
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Closed, Best/most/etc rom threads are unwelcome, its such a matter of opinion that you just need to try them to see what you like.

what is the best echoe rom for a galaxy S4 I9505

Hi All
I really like the Echoe roms but was wondering which Rom is the best for your battery life?
thanks
Paul
Try it out for yourself. This question is not allowed here, because there is no best.
Lennyz1988 said:
Try it out for yourself. This question is not allowed here, because there is no best.
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perhaps not the best question but in your experience or from others they might say this custom rom is good for battery life and the other aint
Acer4605 said:
perhaps not the best question but in your experience or from others they might say this custom rom is good for battery life and the other aint
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Then they don't know what they are talking about. There is no big difference between roms in battery life. There can be a difference, but that comes from how the user uses his phone and/or if it's an AOSP rom or the rom uses a different kernel with maybe some tweaks.
Every rom that claims that it has the best battery life, the fastest and the smootest is lying. They can never prove it and a good rom doesn't need those claims
1) Use the latest one unless you read something that would justify using an older echoe rom.
2) Do NOT ask for a 'best rom' on XDA, ever. This WILL be shut down.
3) What is the best? One with all TW features, the fastest, the slimmest, the longest battery, the most processing power, more gpu, less gup, more apps, less bloatware, more features? There is no such thing.
Do NOT ask for an ETA, do not ask for a best ROM. Read the XDA charter or watch the intro video (it's like 90 seconds long).
I'm not trying to have a go at you, but if you don't read the basic stuff here you perhaps should not be flashing ROMs on your phone. The best advice for rooting/installing/flashing is always read, read and read some more.
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"Best" ROM/kernel threads are not allowed on XDA.
Please test these things for yourself.
This is the only way you will get an unbiased opinion,and then, you can decide for yourself if it meets YOUR needs.
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