Hello, I've understood that to be able to perform a ROM switch, without losing any data (SMS, etc...), I need to backup from TWRP
System, Data and Boot. But to keep my "datas" from the apps I use, how do I proceed ? Is the option "Backup all apps" from Titanium will be enough ? Or do I need to save as well with Titanium the data settings ? I have some problems with this.
I used to run Cataclysm but now I want to test Purity (won't go on JSS builds)
Thanks in advance !
Hit the Box in titanium backup up top with the checkmark (between the menu and search button) backup all user apps.
After wiping and installing new Rom, hit the same button, scroll down to restore missing apps with data.
I only backup and restore user's app, with the exception of "Phone/Messaging Storage....38(SMS/MMS/APN)" That's for backing up messages. Also "Call log".
This is with Titanium backup.
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i am about to try another rom, so which back up method will restore the most info
looking at apps/ accounts/ contacts/ games saves etc etc
i have titainuim back up also have clockwork or is there a better back up method that will make my phone like it is now but on a new rom(where i will most likley have to do data/cache wipes before i install it)
thanks for any help
combat goofwing said:
i am about to try another rom, so which back up method will restore the most info
looking at apps/ accounts/ contacts/ games saves etc etc
i have titainuim back up also have clockwork or is there a better back up method that will make my phone like it is now but on a new rom(where i will most likley have to do data/cache wipes before i install it)
thanks for any help
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short answer, no. The problem is if you restore the system settings and the framework is significantly changed you will end up with multiple Force closes, titanium backup will allow you to restore your apps with data but avoid restoring system data if possible (it is possible to create a flashable zip of titanium to flash from recovery so it's installed when you boot your new ROM) also ADW can save your desktop configuration and restore it and I use SMS backup/restore to restore my SMS's, your contacts etc should be catered for by google which will also try and restore some other settings and your apps.
BTW: Do a NANDROID backup before installing your new ROM, this is a snapshot of your system state which can be used to restore it to it's current state should the new ROM not be to your taste
with a new rom, i suggest just installing everything afresh so there are no compaibility problems. I imagine with titanium backup you could restore savegames
ghostofcain said:
short answer, no. The problem is if you restore the system settings and the framework is significantly changed you will end up with multiple Force closes, titanium backup will allow you to restore your apps with data but avoid restoring system data if possible (it is possible to create a flashable zip of titanium to flash from recovery so it's installed when you boot your new ROM) also ADW can save your desktop configuration and restore it and I use SMS backup/restore to restore my SMS's, your contacts etc should be catered for by google which will also try and restore some other settings and your apps.
BTW: Do a NANDROID backup before installing your new ROM, this is a snapshot of your system state which can be used to restore it to it's current state should the new ROM not be to your taste
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whats nandroid?
so when people are flashing a rom every other day they are having to reinstall everything???
panyan said:
with a new rom, i suggest just installing everything afresh so there are no compaibility problems. I imagine with titanium backup you could restore savegames
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this is what i want to do too. Install all apps from the market fresh, but use titanium to restore any data associated with the apps.
However im not sure which setting to use in titanium. When i click batch, there's 100 options. If i choose "Backup all system data", will this restore only the data like gamesaves etc?
combat goofwing said:
whats nandroid?
so when people are flashing a rom every other day they are having to reinstall everything???
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No, as a rule if you are installing the same type of ROM ie aosp you don't have to wipe so everything should be retained, if swapping between different types of ROM ie aosp - sense then a wipe and subsequent reinstall is required
As for Nandroid its the backup option in recovery console and it takes a snapshot of the current ROM which if you where to restore would put your system back to its current state
My typical app library is not all that extensive. However, since I find myself constantly jumping ROM's (damn you Dungphp! ), it's becoming a pain to reinstall all the apps. So I installed Titanium Backup, and ran the batch – “Backup all user apps + system data”. Is the system data only the data for the apps Titanium backs-up? Any recommendations on how to best utilize this app, as all I need to do is backup and then restore my apps – preferably with the settings intact?
Thx
Don't backup system data, you are inviting trouble ! Only backup user apps+data, then once you are on a new ROM just restore them. Restoring system apps causes conflicts and all kinds of timewasting fiddling with settings.
danm200 said:
Don't backup system data, you are inviting trouble ! Only backup user apps+data, then once you are on a new ROM just restore them. Restoring system apps causes conflicts and all kinds of timewasting fiddling with settings.
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Thanks for the reply. Although Apps+Data is not an option. And I am only talking about User Apps - not System apps. My options are: Backup all user apps; Back all system data; Backup all user apps + system data; Forced redo of you backups; Redo your old; Redo backs for modified data…
So then should I just select Backup all user apps? Will that keep my settings intact within those apps?
cmajewsk said:
Thanks for the reply. Although Apps+Data is not an option. And I am only talking about User Apps - not System apps. My options are: Backup all user apps; Back all system data; Backup all user apps + system data; Forced redo of you backups; Redo your old; Redo backs for modified data…
So then should I just select Backup all user apps? Will that keep my settings intact within those apps?
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Hi,
You are fine to backup "ALL USER APPS",and then you can restore these in new ROMS.
On the backup/restore page,use the "batch" backup.
DO NOT restore "SYSTEM DATA" on new ROMS,as danm200 mentioned.This will cause problems and conflicts!
Is there a settings that will only back up the apps + data that only you have backed up?
When going to an updated version of a ROM and needing to do a full wipe, what should i and shouldn't i be backing up and restoring? Can somebody give a run down of what options to select when doing the backup? And is there a way to have everything auto restore instead of having to select install for every app and then done?
Titanium Backup does everything good by default. You simply select Batch Backup/Restore, press "Backup all user apps" and wait till it ends. When you need to restore, you go there again but choose "restore all missing apps with data". If you don't want to select every app you need to buy Titanium Backup key in the market. After that it will not ask you to press install button everytime. And about what you should or shouldn't backup: if you really need to do a full wipe it's better to backup only your apps and forget about system data cause you can get a lot of headache after restoring everything.
Backup only user apps, not system apps.
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Hi there,
I am a bit confused about Titanium Backup. I'm not the great ROM flasher, and I don't backup very often (when things have gone ****, I've just had to download everything again), so I realized it would be cool to just use TitaniumBackup some more; especially now that I bought the Pro version.
I followed this guide: http://androidforums.com/faqs/607141-guide-titaniumbackup-tutorial.html
TL;DR: She does the following:
In TiBu, tap the checkmark icon up on the top right between the search icon and the menu icon.
Tap on Backup all user apps.
Tap on Backup new user apps & newer versions
Tap on Redo backups for modified data
Never ever backup or restore system data! The three taps above are all you need.
The essential point of my question:
What to do when doing subsequent backups? I have downloaded (and will download) a couple of apps after I made the first backup some days ago, and I would like to backup again soon when Paranoid Android 3.0 is coming out - what is the right thing to do?
Also, if I would like to start a scheduled backup plan.. what would be the right thing to choose, so that it is NOT backing up EVERYTHING again and again, but just the apps/stuff I add every once in a while?
Thanks a lot!
I think "forced redo for modified data" is the correct option for subsequent backups. For schedules, you can choose backup newer data and forced redo (2 schedules) or create filters
Hi, after rooting my phone with Magisk and having installed TiBu I proceeded to backup all user app + system data then I installed System app remover and removed some system apps that supposedly were "safe" to remove (briefing) but after a reboot I end up in a bootloop. I had to wipe everything and start from scratch (install ROM + Magisk)
On my first try I did not restore my data using Google + Samsung backup. I tried to restore my apps + system data using TiBu but after several hours of waiting to restore, it did not progress and stuck at 0%
On my second try I restored my data using google+samsung backup. After everything was set and ready I used TiBu's "Restore missing apps + all system data". This time TiBU did progress and completed the restore. After a reboot I start to notice that most of my apps/system settings customization are not even there... To name a few:
I had Full screen gestures instead of the navigation buttons. TiBu did not restore this
I had several accounts that TiBu did not restore (google, outlook, twitter, steam, blizzard, twitter and the list keeps going)
Simple things like Gboard was not even restored as default input method
Settings like one hand mode, edge lightning, quick panel layout, adaptive brightness, screen resolution (the list keeps going) were not restored the way I had them
TL;DR: TiBu did little to nothing despite having the pro version and the appropriate backup
My device:
Galaxy S10+ (Exynos SM-G975F)
Android 10 (G975FXXU3BSKO_G975FOWO3BSKO_ARO) patched with Magisk v20.2-11b7076a (20109)
I feel like I wasted my money..... worst spent 6+ dollars of my life
TiBu is a powerful tool if you know how to use it, in a majority of the cases restoring any complete system backup is always a bad idea. If you ever want to restore system data, you need to use nandroid backup or selected apps in TiBu. When you restore user apps (missing apps in your case) all their data is restored and restored to the level of functionality they had before backing up.
For full-screen gestures, it's likely some mismatch between existing settings and restored system settings.
As for the accounts, it was likely because of restoring the app itself, they would have been there even before you backed them up.
Again, for system settings, you can't rely on TiBu in One UI, restoring system settings barely works in stock android.
My workflow is like this, If I am just tinkering with the system but my phone is stable, I do a nandroid backup (backup in recovery) and try out the mod/feature if it suits me, I continue with it, if not I restore back.
If I know I want to format, I generally need to do this when I've messed up in the system and need to start over. I install all I need in TWRP, setup the system only restoring call and SMS backup from Samsung Cloud, restore missing apps and go through the phone settings and set them up again. This ensures no ****ups from the previous install come back and now that I end up doing it regularly, I can do all this under 30 mins.
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TiBu is a powerful tool if you know how to use it, in a majority of the cases restoring any complete system backup is always a bad idea. If you ever want to restore system data, you need to use nandroid backup or selected apps in TiBu. When you restore user apps (missing apps in your case) all their data is restored and restored to the level of functionality they had before backing up.
For full-screen gestures, it's likely some mismatch between existing settings and restored system settings.
As for the accounts, it was likely because of restoring the app itself, they would have been there even before you backed them up.
Again, for system settings, you can't rely on TiBu in One UI, restoring system settings barely works in stock android.
My workflow is like this, If I am just tinkering with the system but my phone is stable, I do a nandroid backup (backup in recovery) and try out the mod/feature if it suits me, I continue with it, if not I restore back.
If I know I want to format, I generally need to do this when I've messed up in the system and need to start over. I install all I need in TWRP, setup the system only restoring call and SMS backup from Samsung Cloud, restore missing apps and go through the phone settings and set them up again. This ensures no ****ups from the previous install come back and now that I end up doing it regularly, I can do all this under 30 mins.
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Thank you for taking your time to reply this thread, I am clearly new at this and I am barely scratching the surface. Gonna try and search more info about this "nandroid backup" (not even know what this is and how it works) you mention and see how it works. As for "TRWP" I read something about it but per the offical site: "Long story short, TWRP support for Android 10 is going to take a while." and that is why I did not pay attention to this app