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Hey everybody, I'm switching to an iPhone 4 to the Droid X within a matter of weeks now. That being said, I am a VERY experience user of iOS and even got Android on my old iTouch. Every iDevice I have owned has been jailbroken and heavily used. However, I believe it is time to switch to the Droid X. It has a much bigger screen, much more speed, and a more reliable network. Now to the good stuff - I have been following several threads on the Droid X about the "ROMS" . I do love the Vanilla Android look and would definetely want to put that on my upcoming Droid X. Does anyone know of a good instruction guide to get that properly set-up and working for noobies? Thanks to everybody, looking forward to making the big switch!
there is a good tutorial over on droidxforums.com for root/roms/backup in the hacks section
Welcome aboard. I too dumped my iPhone 4 after six months and now have the Droid X. I cleared some good resale value, and couldn't be happier. If you haven't sold it yet I would suggest checking out www.wennecorp.com, they were easy to deal with and a legit buyer.
Z4root will get you rooted (free in market) and Rom Manager will get you familiar with roms. You will also need bootstrap recovery to get started flashing. Google it. Steer clear of the leaked 2.2.1 flash for now. There is no full SBF to recover if things go wrong. Once the full SBF is available, it's no big deal. Use Rom Manager to back up before each and every flash. This will save you alot of headache.You will always have something stable to go back to if things go bad, unless you upgrade bootloader. Once you upgrade bootloader, old backups are useless. Another reason to stay away from the leak for now.
thanks for the suggestion bro
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Z4root will get you rooted (free in market) and Rom Manager will get you familiar with roms. You will also need bootstrap recovery to get started flashing. Google it. Steer clear of the leaked 2.2.1 flash for now. There is no full SBF to recover if things go wrong. Once the full SBF is available, it's no big deal. Use Rom Manager to back up before each and every flash. This will save you alot of headache.You will always have something stable to go back to if things go bad, unless you upgrade bootloader. Once you upgrade bootloader, old backups are useless. Another reason to stay away from the leak for now.
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thanks so much for the explanation man. the iphone 4 is pretty simple to hack with the new jailbreaks and such ahah. it will be fun playing witht he droid x tho. thanks again . i will search a bit more
Greetings, programs! Well my question is not likely something anyone could have a definitive answer for - but I welcome any opinions or ideas. I don't want phone that is locked up against tinkering, but the current "price" of this phone is so tempting. Just about everything I've read tells me I'd really love this phone - the only thing holding me up is my expectation that there will be little to no development done with this phone.
I see that the bootloader seems to have been successfully unlocked? Now that this is the case I wonder if it's likely to be something anyone puts work into as far as developing ROMS/kernels. I'm not expecting Nexus-level activity, but even the hope of something might help me make up my mind (or I may just get a GNex). Thanks,
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Greetings, programs! Well my question is not likely something anyone could have a definitive answer for - but I welcome any opinions or ideas. I don't want phone that is locked up against tinkering, but the current "price" of this phone is so tempting. Just about everything I've read tells me I'd really love this phone - the only thing holding me up is my expectation that there will be little to no development done with this phone.
I see that the bootloader seems to have been successfully unlocked? Now that this is the case I wonder if it's likely to be something anyone puts work into as far as developing ROMS/kernels. I'm not expecting Nexus-level activity, but even the hope of something might help me make up my mind (or I may just get a GNex). Thanks,
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The boot loader is unlockable for the dev edition RAZR m and as for development, safe strap has been released and cm10 alpha has been released. I have no doubt that in the future, more will come out. If ur attracted to this phone, then I highly suggest you get it because of the size and specs.
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The boot loader is unlockable for the dev edition RAZR m and as for development, safe strap has been released and cm10 alpha has been released. I have no doubt that in the future, more will come out. If ur attracted to this phone, then I highly suggest you get it because of the size and specs.
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Totally agree with jarzy00 i am coming from evil land apple and this phone feels nice and compact replacing my i4 LMAO
Razr i, Razr M and Razr M XT905 (Future release for Euro market maybe) are one of the few phones left standing with this kind of small foot print.
ever one else moved on to larger screens. And the specs aren't too shaby =)
Ok, I see. My experience with Moto phones are limited, but do I have it right that using the bootstrap method you can flash custom ROMS, but custom kernels are a no go? Still waiting till I make a decision, but every bit of info helps.
Coorect Bootstrap allow you to load that Beta CM10.
(There isn't much support on that yet)
And no custom kernels unless you have the Dev edition
There are AU Edition, US Edition, Dev Edition, And the i (Intel), there are plans for a EU Edition which will be GSM only
Either get it and hand in tight, or look for a DEV
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Ok, I see. My experience with Moto phones are limited, but do I have it right that using the bootstrap method you can flash custom ROMS, but custom kernels are a no go? Still waiting till I make a decision, but every bit of info helps.
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Not sure how far development is on Safestrap for the M, but it will allow custom kernels on locked devices using kexec. The version for the Droid 3 (which has a locked bootloader) allows a 3.x kernel to be run instead of the factory 2.6.x kernel in order for better ICS and newer compatibility. Unless Motorola has patched this kexec bypass then it should be possible to implement on the M.
Thanks guys for this thread. I was possibly looking at this phone, but I don't want to end up with the same situation we had with the bionic. I think I'll skip it until Moto wises up and unlocks the bootloaders.
If you really want some development here, look at the donate thread for getting nytro a razr m so he can develop for the retail version. In terms of safestrap, you could potentially get modify a custom rom. It just takes one rom to iron out the major bugs and people can start deriving from it.
i dont think moto will ever get smart with bootloaders, which is sad because they make quality phones, with unlocked bootloaders i dont think id ever buy another brand. but regardless, we have stable safe strap, just isnt a big flagship device, its not a new phone and with all the new better phones that are cake to unlock, this phone is just looked over and left in the dust, aside from a few very good devs we have working to give us some stuff to play with, we wont see much.
I haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet. Looks like this is the source for the Droid Ultra/Maxx line.
Hopefully using this and the AOSP 4.3, we can get a 4.3 ROM brewed.
Announcing the release of open source for the Ultra family of products
And if you want the source for the Moto X it's there as well:
Announcing the release of Open Source Software for Moto X
Sorry for the noob questions but how does this effect the bootloader? Will it completely unlock the device for recovery/kernels/ROMs? TIA.
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dr_acula said:
Sorry for the noob questions but how does this effect the bootloader? Will it completely unlock the device for recovery/kernels/ROMs? TIA.
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This won't effect the bootloader but could be used for kernels and ROMs on the developer editions where the bootloader is unlocked.
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This won't effect the bootloader but could be used for kernels and ROMs on the developer editions where the bootloader is unlocked.
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Does that mean there's no hope still for locked devices? I got my Maxx and am now questioning if I should return it for a device that can be unlocked. I really love everything else about this phone though.
From what I have read around the forums, if you are looking for unlocked then this phone line isn't the way to go.
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Yep, the developer edition will probably be less headache for you in the long run.
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I don't really have 650$ lying around though :/
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Safestrap for moto X released, likely for maxx soon
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I haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet. Looks like this is the source for the Droid Ultra/Maxx line.
Hopefully using this and the AOSP 4.3, we can get a 4.3 ROM brewed.
Announcing the release of open source for the Ultra family of products
And if you want the source for the Moto X it's there as well:
Announcing the release of Open Source Software for Moto X
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thank you for the links.
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thank you for the links.
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is this phone is locked to verizon only? how about the gsm? it's locked too?
The phone can be used globaly. That includes GSM networks.
Out of curiosity, is there any development going on with the Droid Maxx developer edition right now? I realize that some of the Moto X stuff works OK, but until someone figures out how to get the capacitive buttons working we're not going to see any ROMs. I'm willing to shell out the extra money for the Maxx Developer Edition if it meant I wouldn't be forced to wait for Verizon to approve firmware updates, but right now it's not looking promising that anyone is going to bother with Droid Maxx DE ROMs. Unless, of course, someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader on the non-developer version.
I haven't seen any activity in the known channels but then again it may be too early to expect anything.
On another note, it would be nice if you could port the Google Edition ROM over to the non Google Edition phones, without having to unlock the bootloader, maybe?
Yeah, I'm surprised at the complete lack of development on this phone. I realize that developer edition devices won't have communities nearly as large as other devices, but I expected at least SOME basic AOSP ROM's.
Wouldnt this being a offical source thats made for our phones atleast allow us to put 4.3 into our phones? Id guess it runs the stock kernel which is signed.
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Yeah, I'm surprised at the complete lack of development on this phone. I realize that developer edition devices won't have communities nearly as large as other devices, but I expected at least SOME basic AOSP ROM's.
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Yeah, I particularly expected some basic ROMs too, since the Maxx will essentially run Moto X ROMs (apparently someone just needs to figure out how to get those ROMs to use the Maxx's capacative buttons). But, there's not a ton going on with the Moto X, either. I'm guessing that's mostly because the Moto X is already mostly a stock ROM. You could build your own AOSP ROM, I suppose, but then you'd lose some of the major features of the Moto X and Droid lines. They're working on CM 10.2, though.
I'd be happy with an AOSP ROM with touchless controls and active notifications
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I have to say since SS came out and we have exposed as well as modules like gravity box etc I don't see a huge need for ROMs. This phones is almost stock android as it is. I would be happy with a deodexed system so it would be easy to install inverted apps and such. I think that is all this phone needs. Other than a ROM that looks or acts completely different from stock what would be the benefit. Without an unlocked boot loader I have always noticed kexec Roms to run glitchy. I don't want a glichy phone when I can do what most Roms do using exposed etc. I think the time would be better spent on creating themes that could be flashed to the stock system. This is just my opinion based on using the maxx for the last 2months.
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I have to say since SS came out and we have exposed as well as modules like gravity box etc I don't see a huge need for ROMs. This phones is almost stock android as it is. I would be happy with a deodexed system so it would be easy to install inverted apps and such. I think that is all this phone needs. Other than a ROM that looks or acts completely different from stock what would be the benefit. Without an unlocked boot loader I have always noticed kexec Roms to run glitchy. I don't want a glichy phone when I can do what most Roms do using exposed etc. I think the time would be better spent on creating themes that could be flashed to the stock system. This is just my opinion based on using the maxx for the last 2months.
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I agree..seems as thow, if I had this stock ROM with a gray gapps to match system colors, maybe even a transparent status bar option, I'd be tickled..I do like some of the Apps. that come with this ROM, games I'm not into, and the "Amazon" stuff, nor the NFL, Ingress I would delete, BUT..The Droid Zap, Touch less Controls, NFC and others I'd like to keep..I do enjoy this device and for the most part, like the stock ROM..
Oh..and be able to turn GPS Off and On without having to give permission ever time ( check or uncheck the box)..
SafeStrap ver. 3.63a
System > 12.7.7.obake-maxx_verizon
Android > 4.2.2
Baseband > MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.011.75.00R
Kernel > 3.4.42
Build > 12.9.0Q2.X-160-OBK_TA-14-7
XT1080M (aka) Droid Maxx
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I'm perfectly happy with stock MotoX/Droid ROMs too, particularly since they are so close to stock Android. But, I don't want to have to wait for Verizon to approve firmware updates. I got a Galaxy Nexus hoping to avoid some of the headaches associated with flashing ROMs, That didn't exactly turn out as expected (though probably how I should have expected it).
users of the vk810 are currently prepared to fork over $135+ to the Developer that produces a working L build, doesn't have to be 100%, but it needs to have the basics; data, GPS, wifi, etc... Any takers?
BOUNTY SET TO $135!!
Note: I sold the tablet and am no longer in the bounty. Sorry.
@adrianrom
Contact this guy.
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@adrianrom
Contact this guy.
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who is that? spelling mistake maybe?
cammiso94 said:
who is that? spelling mistake maybe?
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He's an xda dev that posted great lollipop rom for v500
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I'd be willing to donate as well. Getting the tablet free. Should be here tomorrow.
I will add $10 if it has working LTE, Wifi, GPS and Bluetooth.
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I will add $10 if it has working LTE, Wifi, GPS and Bluetooth.
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All of those things should be covered with the $100, we'll just say that we have the bounty set to $110 or so. Anyone want to put on top? Lets get in touch with a developer to get this rolling!
Do u users have a working kitkat tree?
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Do u users have a working kitkat tree?
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we have a semi-working CM11 devicetree/kernel ported from the non-LTE model (LTE data/GPS doesn't work, everything else seems to work)
I'm still trying to understand more about kernel development/porting, just not much time to look at it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2759270
Why do you want Android 5.0 so bad to the point you want to pay money? I'm mean specifically, what in it is such a big deal that you need it NOW?
Why not just go buy a Google Play Edition if you want Lolipop that bad?
There's more to life than obsessing over having the lastest O/S version
Well a bounty is less than a gpe tablet lol. So there's that.
jazee said:
Why do you want Android 5.0 so bad to the point you want to pay money? I'm mean specifically, what in it is such a big deal that you need it NOW?
Why not just go buy a Google Play Edition if you want Lolipop that bad?
There's more to life than obsessing over having the lastest O/S version
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users of this great, underestimated beast of a tablet, that for some reason LG dumped some unoptimized garbage on to it, then "replaced" it with tablets with WORSE hardware, are really missing out on what this tablet can do. What it needs is a build that will run perfectly on it. Furthermore if it works half as good as it should, it would be better than what LG is currently doing with it.
Lets get a dev to get 4.4 working with radios, and we'll go from there. We may have to wait for a dev to pick up this device, with that; I am also willing to allow the dev my device as a start.
I'll add 50 to it
I would just like to see CM11 or CM12.. The tablet would run so much better.
It's starting to look like a significant amount of people are buying this tablet with the recent promotions by Verizon. I really hope that a dev can pick this up and see if they can get us a working ROM. I'm in the process of prepping a server to do some of my own ROM builds for the LG G3. Wish we had a working base because I don't have the knowledge to do anything but compile the builds.
Even a custom kernel would be nice so we could boost the CPU back to the 1.7 that the other models run at.
I'll kick in $20 for this. Would be nice to be cm12 or even GPE rom with working data (or not at this point).
I just got this tablet from verizon about 2 weeks ago, I dont consider myself a dev in any shape or form but I have done enough to know what can break my device and what cant, a while back I successfully ported a rom to a cheap Chinese tablet I owned a while back, I am going to look into porting a (hopefully) lollipop rom to our VK810, gonna take me some time and who knows if I will even be successful, just wanted to let everyone know someone is trying..... I will let you know if I make any progress....
Prepare your bounties guys !
Development is in full swing. We'd see some love for developers in coming weeks !
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/0...he-moto-x-pro-like-the-nexus-6-but-for-china/
So now this is coming, how long till we get a ROM ripped and edited to work on the Nexus 6?
I didn't even think about that. Oh man this could be awesome. The moto tweaks are minor but so useful. I already miss some of them from my moto x 2013. I'm already drooling thinking about customized launch phrase. *crosses fingers*
I'm on the side of the Note 4 right now because of a lot of a reasons, but this could pull me back
Well.... there might be some stuff keeping that from happening.... First, devs would have to be able to get their hands on the Moto Assist sources. I'm not sure if Motorola has that available. Sure, the BASE stuff will have to be released...like the core and kernel sources. But the proprietary stuff might be locked down. So having a native Nexus 6 ROM that has the Moto stuff ported might be either impossible or a legal minefield.
Now, it could be feasible for someone to port the ROM over... but again... we might be swimming in some questionable legal waters there as well.
Or just sell they nexus 6 and try to snag a moto x pro.
In theory if the phone has 100% identical couldn't we just flash a ROM? Like the GSM M8 you could flash GPE Roms and sense Roms. If you were originally a GPE you would have to SOFF to do a full conversion due to differences in partition. Same if you had a sense m8 and wanted to get full conversion with OTA updates.
But let's say you have a carrier bought m8 and just wanted to flash a GPE all you would have to do is HTC Dev_unlock flash recovery and flash GPE ROM
What I'm most excited about with this release, is that we might be able to get back covers from moto maker just like the moto x, only without the nexus logo but wtf.. Bring on those covers and I'm set.!!
There's gonna be nothing more that I'd want from this phone if that happens.
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md1008 said:
In theory if the phone has 100% identical couldn't we just flash a ROM? Like the GSM M8 you could flash GPE Roms and sense Roms. If you were originally a GPE you would have to SOFF to do a full conversion due to differences in partition. Same if you had a sense m8 and wanted to get full conversion with OTA updates.
But let's say you have a carrier bought m8 and just wanted to flash a GPE all you would have to do is HTC Dev_unlock flash recovery and flash GPE ROM
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My guess is that it'll be identical to the international version of the nexus 6 and not the US version that has CDMA radios and different LTE bands. Of course I'm not experienced enough to know if that will make a difference when building roms. I imagine it would. Time will tell when it finally releases.
biggiestuff said:
I didn't even think about that. Oh man this could be awesome. The moto tweaks are minor but so useful. I already miss some of them from my moto x 2013. I'm already drooling thinking about customized launch phrase. *crosses fingers*
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Never had a moto x, what tweaks are missing?
Never had one either but I think they're referring to the motor voice (advanced more comprehensive version of "Ok google", moto display, and a few other features
rhg84 said:
Never had a moto x, what tweaks are missing?
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One I miss right off the bat is Bluetooth profiles. It would remember the volume of each Bluetooth device I had paired. With the nexus 6, I have to adjust between each device when switching.
Wrist twist for fast access to camera
Automatic switch up speakerphone when making a call via voice command that way up don't have to click speakerphone button.
on the new moto x you can customize the launch phrase so you don't have to say okay Google.
You could voice command "where is my phone" and it would start ringing so you can locate it.
Little things but they were nice.
Damn some of those actually sound useful.
knitler said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/0...he-moto-x-pro-like-the-nexus-6-but-for-china/
So now this is coming, how long till we get a ROM ripped and edited to work on the Nexus 6?
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I posted about this yesterday in the Q&A section. We should have the two OPs merged to avoid clutter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2995394
biggiestuff said:
One I miss right off the bat is Bluetooth profiles. It would remember the volume of each Bluetooth device I had paired. With the nexus 6, I have to adjust between each device when switching.
Wrist twist for fast access to camera
Automatic switch up speakerphone when making a call via voice command that way up don't have to click speakerphone button.
on the new moto x you can customize the launch phrase so you don't have to say okay Google.
You could voice command "where is my phone" and it would start ringing so you can locate it.
Little things but they were nice.
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I also liked Moto Assist which would independently detect activities like driving or meetings and would assume profiles with different abilities. Like for driving it would read text messages alloud and would automatically offer the opportunity to voice reply.
knitler said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/0...he-moto-x-pro-like-the-nexus-6-but-for-china/
So now this is coming, how long till we get a ROM ripped and edited to work on the Nexus 6?
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please use the existing thread for this discussion
Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting > Moto X Pro
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