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Nexus S kills the batteries

Hello
My friend have a Nexus S (9020A) the problem is when the battery dies it's impossible to charge the phone, it won't turn on! I have tried with a lot of batteries now and it kills all of them! it works like normal when you don't let the battery die completely but it should not do this anyway, what is wrong?

I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
But if your saying it won't charge. Sorry. No idea
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Shark_On_Land said:
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
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What? That's just nonsense.

If you turn the phone off and then try to charge it with the battery in, you're not able to charge it?

gsvnet said:
If you turn the phone off and then try to charge it with the battery in, you're not able to charge it?
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no, the phone kills the batteries, I would have test the batteries on other phone if I had, but atm I just have the Nexus S, it won't let me charge the batteries when they are dead.. if there is 1% left I can charge but when it dies it's dead forever... there must be something wrong with the phone, right?

Try wiping battery stats?

Harbb said:
Try wiping battery stats?
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don't work.. when battery have some % left the phone works like normal... but if I let it die, then it's dead.. I can't even turn on the phone, it's like there is no battery inserted.

The phone should shut down automatically when the voltage reaches a certain threshold. Is the phone not doing this? These batteries are not meant to drop below a certain voltage and doing so could damage them.
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Wait, does this mean I have to turn my wifi and data off whenever I'm charging my phone? Bulls right there...
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Rem3Dy said:
The phone should shut down automatically when the voltage reaches a certain threshold. Is the phone not doing this? These batteries are not meant to drop below a certain voltage and doing so could damage them.
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This ^^
Are you running a modded rom/kernel/calibration tool that let your battery go below the min voltage threshold?

evcz said:
This ^^
Are you running a modded rom/kernel/calibration tool that let your battery go below the min voltage threshold?
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The phone have doing the same with all type of ROMS, CM7, Stock Google Gingerbread and now ICS.
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kyokeun1234 said:
Wait, does this mean I have to turn my wifi and data off whenever I'm charging my phone? Bulls right there...
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No, just go ahead and ignore anything Shark_On_Land posts - he's a slightly slow middle-schooler who claims to be a "developer".
Snt frm my Nxs S 4G sng xd prm

[email protected] said:
The phone have doing the same with all type of ROMS, CM7, StockvGoogle Gingerbread and now ICS.
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so does it auto shutdown or not?
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Rem3Dy said:
so does it auto shutdown or not?
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yes I mean when battery dies all phones shutdown or have I missed something? problem is I can't charge the battery when that happens.

Shark_On_Land said:
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
But if your saying it won't charge. Sorry. No idea
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This is so insanely inaccurate. Using the hotspot is one of the most battery intensive operations the phone can carry out. Streaming music, Skype, and browsing don't even hold a candle to it. The only thing that comes close would be navigation (and that can be even worse sometimes), followed by talking on the phone by a pretty decent, but not massive margin. It also depends on the charger. Where do you get your information?
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if the phone is doing the same with all type of ROMS, then it may be hardware related issue.
I have been running various Roms since the start but never faced this issue. A lot of times battery has drained fully. With some of the new roms that are there my phone lasts more than a day with Data on Roaming full time.

I know most phone batteries will not be chargeable if you deplete them completely. Usually this happens by throwin it in the drawer and not using it for a long time but ive never heard of it happening just by using the phone. Id say its definitely a hardware issue

Bradart said:
This is so insanely inaccurate. Using the hotspot is one of the most battery intensive operations the phone can carry out. Streaming music, Skype, and browsing don't even hold a candle to it. The only thing that comes close would be navigation (and that can be even worse sometimes), followed by talking on the phone by a pretty decent, but not massive margin. It also depends on the charger. Where do you get your information?
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Trial & error
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Shark_On_Land said:
Trial & error
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A lot of error in your case...

Battery drops

i have huge battery drops from 80-50% and then from 40-20% again 12-4% and it will last nearly an hour on 1% .........even while charging ill charge till 60% around and suddenly after 5 mins ill show me 100% charged ..' iam on CM 10 on my defy, is there any fix for this for more accurate readings? will changing the rom or kernel help in anyway? plz help!

royrules26 said:
i have huge battery drops from 80-50% and then from 40-20% again 12-4% and it will last nearly an hour on 1% .........even while charging ill charge till 60% around and suddenly after 5 mins ill show me 100% charged ..' iam on CM 10 on my defy, is there any fix for this for more accurate readings? will changing the rom or kernel help in anyway? plz help!
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u need to buy a new battery
buying a new battery will fix the problem
ur battery is wornout
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my suggestion, test with other battery

Don't mind buying a new one but the batteries are unavailable in the shops
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royrules26 said:
Don't mind buying a new one but the batteries are unavailable in the shops
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yes they ain't available on shops
u gotta buy it from eBay
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Rawwr said:
u need to buy a new battery
buying a new battery will fix the problem
ur battery is wornout
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i changed the battery (new) and the problem is same....

nygyorgy said:
i changed the battery (new) and the problem is same....
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Try fully discharging it
Then charge it fully
5-6 times
And what type of battery u bought ?
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Rawwr said:
Try fully discharging it
Then charge it fully
5-6 times
And what type of battery u bought ?
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Original part BF5X

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778492

Brought a new battery fixed the problem, thanks guys
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I also had this issue, and a new original battery solved the problem.

shinodex said:
I also had this issue, and a new original battery solved the problem.
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I also have this problem, but new battery didn't solved it for me. Can anybody help, somehow else?

Jinx Lumos Joke said:
I also have this problem, but new battery didn't solved it for me. Can anybody help, somehow else?
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Did u cleared the battery stats ?
If not do it
If u did
Then try
Fully discharging the battery and charge it fully overnight
Do it for 3-4 times
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Jinx Lumos Joke said:
I also have this problem, but new battery didn't solved it for me. Can anybody help, somehow else?
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the problem can be the battery, even if it's a new one.
I tried two other batteries, and the problem had continued.
I think the other ones was fake/old batteries, but sold as original and new.

Thanks for the help, the problem is solved, I just had to do full sbf install for 3 times. Now my mobile is on for about 26 hours using the new battery. (On 4.2.2)
Maybe I had problems both with the old battery and the battery files on the ROMs.

Jinx Lumos Joke said:
Thanks for the help, the problem is solved, I just had to do full sbf install for 3 times. Now my mobile is on for about 26 hours using the new battery. (On 4.2.2)
Maybe I had problems both with the old battery and the battery files on the ROMs.
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I have been experiencing similar battery problems running Whiterabbit 2.1.1 on my Green lens Defy Mb525. Which 4.2.2 ROM are you using Jinx? If I flash a new ROM and recalibrate the battery is that likely to fix it? I'm guessing sbf install is the same as a full factory reset. (forgive me, I'm a beginner when it comes to all this!) How come you needed to reinstall 3 times?

I don't know, what solved my problem, but the fact is that I reinstalled the sbf three times than updated to Quarx's latest 4.2.2 nightly than I got it right.
My phone just run out of power after 3 days 4 hours. Good luck!

Jinx Lumos Joke said:
I don't know, what solved my problem, but the fact is that I reinstalled the sbf three times than updated to Quarx's latest 4.2.2 nightly than I got it right.
My phone just run out of power after 3 days 4 hours. Good luck!
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Thanks for taking the time to reply Jinx.
3 days is excellent! I flashed sbf twice, had some trouble running Jellybean ROMs without serious lag, so am currently reverting back to 7.2, running 'Cyanmobile experience'. It runs smoothly, but still encountering the battery drops, so its somewhat of a mystery!
I'll keep experimenting.
I have a spare battery, and an external wall charger. Currently swapping between the two to last through the day with enough juice!

Sparky_12 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply Jinx.
3 days is excellent! I flashed sbf twice, had some trouble running Jellybean ROMs without serious lag, so am currently reverting back to 7.2, running 'Cyanmobile experience'. It runs smoothly, but still encountering the battery drops, so its somewhat of a mystery!
I'll keep experimenting.
I have a spare battery, and an external wall charger. Currently swapping between the two to last through the day with enough juice!
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Somehow, even for me, after 3 sbf flashes, CM10 is really smooth and there are no problems so far. Oddly, after the second sbf flash, CM10 was quite laggy.

I bought my brand New defy in October 2012. I've had huge battery drops ever since I jumped onto the CM10 bandwagon from this February. How's that possible?
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How much battery do you lose overnight?

Hi guys as the title says can you guys pls mention how much battery you lose overnight with which rom and which kernel..

i leave mine plugged in overnight, why would you not?

Also i have some weird behavior with my phone.. It lost lot of battery overnight.. Android os is drainin too much battery.. Check the screen shots and tell me if its normal..

simms22 said:
i leave mine plugged in overnight, why would you not?
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The thing is that ramzan is going on.. So i plug it overnight then i unplug it when i wake up at 4am.. Then i go back to sleep at 5 am.. So cant plug it in again right..

zerohunk said:
The thing is that ramzan is going on.. So i plug it overnight then i unplug it when i wake up at 4am.. Then i go back to sleep at 5 am.. So cant plug it in again right..
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i bump charge all day long at work, i have on all my androids for the past 5 years(almost 5). and yet i am very happy with my battery when im away from the charger all day too

I lose about 4%-5%.
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zerohunk said:
Hi guys as the title says can you guys pls mention how much battery you lose overnight with which rom and which kernel..
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0%-1% loss with wifi off, completely stock 4.3
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Max 2% since January. Regardless of the android version.
Totally stock
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filthykid said:
Max 2% since January. Regardless of the android version.
Totally stock
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failly said:
0%-1% loss with wifi off, completely stock 4.3
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badboy47 said:
I lose about 4%-5%.
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wow guys are you all serious??? i lose around 10-15 percent overnight man

Dude.. My phone was on 60 percent at 6pm once when I slept... Next morning at seven it was off... Wifi off data off.. All **** off... I dint even get a call or msg... Definitely not 1 percent I guess...

If I leave data and WiFi off, about 2% to 10% but that isn't usual. When I am home, I leave WiFi on and that gets my currents and YouTube video preloaded. 15% to 20% Max. I rarely leave it to charge overnight.
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zerohunk said:
wow guys are you all serious??? i lose around 10-15 percent overnight man
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Yes ! you leave wifi or data on overnight?
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With data and WiFi on , if I fall asleep and my phones at 100%, it will be at 75 or so when I wake up
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8 hours of sleep 0%. WiFi & Data off always. Rootbox ROM with Franco M3 Kernel. No of stuffs. Just default Franco settings.
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failly said:
Yes ! you leave wifi or data on overnight?
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yes i do keep wifi/data on

any suggests ?
REBOOTED - nothing, drain battery like hell, lose about 30-40% in 5 hours...
I woke up with 15-20% battery drained... wtf guys ?
I kill all apps, turn of data, wifi and etc, still nothing...
BATTERY STATUS - messaging use 84% of battery... wtf ?

To all of you having problems with battery drain, you should know that last Google Maps update messed up the deep sleep state of the system.
I´m running Carbon ROM, but also tested with other 2 ROM´s and the results were the same, around 20%-25% battery drain over night.
I read that disabling "Reporting Location" and "Location History" under Location settings in the Google Settings app(the one with the green icon) helps a little, but still is an issue.
With these settings disabled, I get around 5% battery drain over night. Although the wakelock has decreased, is still there waking up the device. Already reported to Google to see if they can do anything to fix it. The wakelock appears as "Android System" or "Google Services".
Before update I had around 3% battery drain over night(around 8 hours) with WiFi.
Hope this helps.
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As a battery life druggie, I get 1% max. Regardless rom. Usually wifi off and 2g data on. (wifi on is bad for HUMAN DEEP SLEEP).
A not sure useful or not hint, set pm.sleep_mode=1 in your build.prop
Disable everything you can think of. Wifi, gps etc.
Uninstall bloatwares, replace with downloadable ones, use greenify to freeze them.

5 %

Still having issues

I'm still having huge battery issues no matter the ROM and kernel I use...
I have tried looking at battery apps that determine what's sucking up the battery but half the time it just says screen or WiFi. So it got me thinking, is it WiFi? I leave WiFi on, which was never and issue like a month ago or ever on my previous androids...but now all the sudden it seems to be the cause? I woke up to find my phone at 50% from 100 within 5 hours...of no use just WiFi turned on and set to only stay on when plugged in...so I could really use some help guys...
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Rocklee99 said:
I'm still having huge battery issues no matter the ROM and kernel I use...
I have tried looking at battery apps that determine what's sucking up the battery but half the time it just says screen or WiFi. So it got me thinking, is it WiFi? I leave WiFi on, which was never and issue like a month ago or ever on my previous androids...but now all the sudden it seems to be the cause? I woke up to find my phone at 50% from 100 within 5 hours...of no use just WiFi turned on and set to only stay on when plugged in...so I could really use some help guys...
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Simple solution - turn Wi-Fi off and see if it fixes the battery issue. Possible it is but to draw 50% that quick you'd have to be far away from the Wireless AP. In most cases that's very unlikely.

Rocklee99 said:
I'm still having huge battery issues no matter the ROM and kernel I use...
I have tried looking at battery apps that determine what's sucking up the battery but half the time it just says screen or WiFi. So it got me thinking, is it WiFi? I leave WiFi on, which was never and issue like a month ago or ever on my previous androids...but now all the sudden it seems to be the cause? I woke up to find my phone at 50% from 100 within 5 hours...of no use just WiFi turned on and set to only stay on when plugged in...so I could really use some help guys...
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Yu should try sacs custom rom look at my battery life
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Fatboisolo said:
Yu should try sacs custom rom look at my battery life
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ya look at that.....but when you have small charges in between that dosent fully charge you.... you can make it run for ever...... the timer dosent reset untill you hit full charge. i agree with garwynn but ide also check your battery for swelling. ive had my wifi on all day (didnt realize it) and ive not had but mabey a 15% drain from it (5h28m to be exact).

xxaddictedxx said:
ya look at that.....but when you have small charges in between that dosent fully charge you.... you can make it run for ever...... the timer dosent reset untill you hit full charge. i agree with garwynn but ide also check your battery for swelling. ive had my wifi on all day (didnt realize it) and ive not had but mabey a 15% drain from it (5h28m to be exact).
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Yur ryte bout dat but dis actually pik with the 11hrs dats on v7 with out any small chargers in between. Not trying to fake anything or what not but sacs rom is the only rom i used with greenify that actually helps with battery life
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Phone Idle Battery Drain (Deep sleeping & no wakelocks)

Does anyone know why this is happening? My phone deep sleeps but loses ~10% per hour. I tried replacing the battery and restoring to stock but nada

dancom96 said:
Does anyone know why this is happening? My phone deep sleeps but loses ~10% per hour. I tried replacing the battery and restoring to stock but nada
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uuuhmmmmmm quite weird... I think that must be a hw issue.. did u contact google? does this happen with every kernel?

I got my phone from a carrier in Canada and they will not honour the warranty because I bought it outright. I have tested stock and franco

Install BetterBatteryStats and see what the other wakelocks are.
Sometimes WakelockDetector does not show every wakelock that is happening.

mumaster20 said:
Install BetterBatteryStats and see what the other wakelocks are.
Sometimes WakelockDetector does not show every wakelock that is happening.
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Look though, my device was only awake 2% of the time

dancom96 said:
Look though, my device was only awake 2% of the time
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And look what i said, WKD does not seem to be able to see all the wakelocks, install BBS and see if you get any extra wakelocks.
If that doesn't help, i would suggest you to do a complete reflash to stock and see if it still happens on stock.

turn off your wifi when you are not using it. there is a constant drain with a wifi connection.

Drain is STILL there with wifi and everything off (airplane mode)
I installed BetterBatteryStats and everything seems normal. In a 1 hour period the largest offender was msm_hsic_host and sns_async_evwakelock and suspend_backoff with a total of 4 min.
It seems to drain the same whether I use the phone or not.

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If that doesn't help, i would suggest you to do a complete reflash to stock and see if it still happens on stock.
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I have tried restoring to stock. Drain still remains

Anyone have any ideas? Here is more info

I was after a red light I bought a new battery because I wanted everything back. but after replacing. the phone loses all the time very fast.i think is battery fault. I tried all the ROM and the kernel and does not help

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Seems like the exact same issue. Have you tried using another battery? I am being sent another battery to replace the one I bought so I will try that when it arrives.

I not tried yet. I wait for the 4.4 ROM and if not help i buy new battery but from someone else
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I have a question. as you put the batteries you put blue tape too? It's a bit strange but maybe this is the reason because I threw my to the trash.it is called blue anti-electrostatic discharge tape

What blue tape? Do you are exepriencing usb connection problems too? I have all those symptoms after I've replaced my battery, and also the usb stopped working
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w.etradesupply.com/blog/how-to-replace-nexus-4-battery/
Step number 5 blue tape

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Well, I didn't replace mine.. Could it be the culprit? Where can we buy that tape?

I doubt the tape is the issue.
Have any of you tried using another new battery?