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My friend have a Nexus S (9020A) the problem is when the battery dies it's impossible to charge the phone, it won't turn on! I have tried with a lot of batteries now and it kills all of them! it works like normal when you don't let the battery die completely but it should not do this anyway, what is wrong?
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
But if your saying it won't charge. Sorry. No idea
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Shark_On_Land said:
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
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What? That's just nonsense.
If you turn the phone off and then try to charge it with the battery in, you're not able to charge it?
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If you turn the phone off and then try to charge it with the battery in, you're not able to charge it?
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no, the phone kills the batteries, I would have test the batteries on other phone if I had, but atm I just have the Nexus S, it won't let me charge the batteries when they are dead.. if there is 1% left I can charge but when it dies it's dead forever... there must be something wrong with the phone, right?
Try wiping battery stats?
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Try wiping battery stats?
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don't work.. when battery have some % left the phone works like normal... but if I let it die, then it's dead.. I can't even turn on the phone, it's like there is no battery inserted.
The phone should shut down automatically when the voltage reaches a certain threshold. Is the phone not doing this? These batteries are not meant to drop below a certain voltage and doing so could damage them.
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Wait, does this mean I have to turn my wifi and data off whenever I'm charging my phone? Bulls right there...
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Rem3Dy said:
The phone should shut down automatically when the voltage reaches a certain threshold. Is the phone not doing this? These batteries are not meant to drop below a certain voltage and doing so could damage them.
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This ^^
Are you running a modded rom/kernel/calibration tool that let your battery go below the min voltage threshold?
evcz said:
This ^^
Are you running a modded rom/kernel/calibration tool that let your battery go below the min voltage threshold?
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The phone have doing the same with all type of ROMS, CM7, Stock Google Gingerbread and now ICS.
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kyokeun1234 said:
Wait, does this mean I have to turn my wifi and data off whenever I'm charging my phone? Bulls right there...
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No, just go ahead and ignore anything Shark_On_Land posts - he's a slightly slow middle-schooler who claims to be a "developer".
Snt frm my Nxs S 4G sng xd prm
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The phone have doing the same with all type of ROMS, CM7, StockvGoogle Gingerbread and now ICS.
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so does it auto shutdown or not?
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so does it auto shutdown or not?
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yes I mean when battery dies all phones shutdown or have I missed something? problem is I can't charge the battery when that happens.
Shark_On_Land said:
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
But if your saying it won't charge. Sorry. No idea
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This is so insanely inaccurate. Using the hotspot is one of the most battery intensive operations the phone can carry out. Streaming music, Skype, and browsing don't even hold a candle to it. The only thing that comes close would be navigation (and that can be even worse sometimes), followed by talking on the phone by a pretty decent, but not massive margin. It also depends on the charger. Where do you get your information?
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if the phone is doing the same with all type of ROMS, then it may be hardware related issue.
I have been running various Roms since the start but never faced this issue. A lot of times battery has drained fully. With some of the new roms that are there my phone lasts more than a day with Data on Roaming full time.
I know most phone batteries will not be chargeable if you deplete them completely. Usually this happens by throwin it in the drawer and not using it for a long time but ive never heard of it happening just by using the phone. Id say its definitely a hardware issue
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This is so insanely inaccurate. Using the hotspot is one of the most battery intensive operations the phone can carry out. Streaming music, Skype, and browsing don't even hold a candle to it. The only thing that comes close would be navigation (and that can be even worse sometimes), followed by talking on the phone by a pretty decent, but not massive margin. It also depends on the charger. Where do you get your information?
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Trial & error
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Trial & error
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A lot of error in your case...
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So I remember reading somewhere that if your battery starts to lose charge fast do to having it for a long time, that you can take it to a Verizon store and get a free battery and this can only be done twice for the life of your phone. Is this true.? I'm concerned because I find myself charging my phone everyday so I'm gunna need the extra. And please don't respond with battery saving techniques lol. Thank you
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Please tell me you have the extended battery. Otherwise if it is bad that you have to charge it everyday(omg!!!), you never use your phone.
Lol seems bad to me
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Haha...most people are lucky to only have to charge it once a day. Its a smartphone and being that android phones are always syncing something somewhere on the phone, you're not going to have superb battery life. Ive got an LG Dare ill sell you though. Gets great battery life XD
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Lol seems bad to me
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I normally charge 1-2 times during the day and always overnight. I can make it through the day if I use no data at all
Jmoney47 said:
I normally charge 1-2 times during the day and always overnight. I can make it through the day if I use no data at all
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Youtube drains the battery like crazy watching phone reviews. Stuff I need to save that for my pc
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I got school at around 6 am. By the time I eat lunch it's already at 57%. By the time I get home around 5 and it's already at 17%.
All I do is listen to music (doubletwist/playerpro) and play Cut the Rope, WTF!?
Cell standy by is 46% in batter usage followed by wifi with 11%
any help guys?
What I tend to do is have brightness down to about half. Have you also tried fully charging the phone, taking the battery out and charging back to full? I sometimes find it drops down but regenerates itself.
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is it stock no over clocking mods etc no app keeping phone locked awake?
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Droid117 said:
What I tend to do is have brightness down to about half. Have you also tried fully charging the phone, taking the battery out and charging back to full? I sometimes find it drops down but regenerates itself.
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is it stock no over clocking mods etc no app keeping phone locked awake?
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Brightness is below half,I never go over. WiFi is on but not all the time.
Stock rom 2.3.4 rooted
Do you have data off?
How's your phone signal most of the time? It has been proven that low/bad signal drains battery quicker than good signal.
Sometimes certain buildings/rooms have pretty bad reception making it a huge drain for your phone.
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What I tend to do is have brightness down to about half. Have you also tried fully charging the phone, taking the battery out and charging back to full? I sometimes find it drops down but regenerates itself.
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This is a useful piece of information, however is not really practical. Ideally we don't want to be turning off our phones on every charge :/
I myself own 3 batteries, and alternate them (I have a wall charger for the batteries)
what ver are you using if 2.3.4 the battery issue is fix.
I get 3 /4 bars, at school right new and yea some times I get nothing, especial ly during the subway ruse which is an hour
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Once I updated my phone to 2.3.3 I noticed that the battery life was sub-par, only lasting 3/5s of the day on a full charge.
I proceeded to root my phone (as I don't have the money to unlock my Big Red Bootloader); after installing SetCPU I took down the clocking meter 1 notch (768MHz) and the phone is stable with not difference in performance (so far). Doing this and removing some unneeded bloatware has increased my battery life 2.5x and I can go almost 3 days on a single charge.
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what ver are you using if 2.3.4 the battery issue is fix.
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xiEvo is correct and I've read a lot of good stuff regarding battery life with 2.3.4. I can only begin to imagine what kind of battery life I'll have once I get that update.
get juice defender off the market ultimate version is best. this will lookafter everything for you.. juice defender is a must have app for all android devices
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I'm 2.3.4.
Honestly I had the best battery life with 2.3.2, IDK why.
Anyone else noticing that the battery percentage goes down incredibly fast when screen is on ?
I've never ever seen a phone go down so fast and I've had the note
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i've actually been pleasantly surprised at the battery life on mine! Over two hours of screen time midway through my day yesterday and i was just above 60%
Have been advised to turn cell broadcast off
Supposed to save a bit if battery.
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My advice, get Tasker to disable mobile data and WiFi when screen is off. Disable Google Now. Disable NFC. Disable GPS until you actually use it. Enjoy your 5+ hour screen on battery life.
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My advice, get Tasker to disable mobile data and WiFi when screen is off. Disable Google Now. Disable NFC. Disable GPS until you actually use it. Enjoy your 5+ hour screen on battery life.
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What good then would your phone be if no data or wifi...
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What good then would your phone be if no data or wifi...
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exactly my thinking.
Why the hell does the Nexus consume soooo much battery ? I have turned most of the stuff off but you dont get any Google Now, emails etc dont work correctly, - totally useless.
My S2 is better than this.
cirian75 said:
Anyone else noticing that the battery percentage goes down incredibly fast when screen is on ?
I've never ever seen a phone go down so fast and I've had the note
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+1
I've literally watched the battery tick down every 2-3 minutes right before my very eyes doing absolutely nothing. Just had the screen on. SMH
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I really want this phone at 3pm today but is the battery THAT bad? I thought they learned from the Galaxy Nexus.
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I really want this phone at 3pm today but is the battery THAT bad? I thought they learned from the Galaxy Nexus.
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yeah its worse than my Galaxy S2. - battery stats say its the screen but that's on auto and its already dim as hell. When off it consumes power if WiFi is on.
cirian75 said:
Anyone else noticing that the battery percentage goes down incredibly fast when screen is on ?
I've never ever seen a phone go down so fast and I've had the note
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Hold up... So you're saying... Having the screen on... Which uses more battery than screen off drains the battery? :what:
My current ROM kernel combo is battery efficient
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FallN said:
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I've literally watched the battery tick down every 2-3 minutes right before my very eyes doing absolutely nothing. Just had the screen on. SMH
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And? Most people don't seem to get this: Say your battery depletes 1% for every 3 minutes you have the screen on, that's 300 minutes, or 5 hours, of screen time. Which is more than acceptable.
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And? Most people don't seem to get this: Say your battery depletes 1% for every 3 minutes you have the screen on, that's 300 minutes, or 5 hours, of screen time. Which is more than acceptable.
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That's what I'm saying
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Battery great over here
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lonz358 said:
Battery great over here
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Yeah def better than the gnex which was rather good too. I took my phone off of charge @ 7:20am and put it on charge when it had 4% left @ 1:30am. So pretty much lasted 18 hours with medium use.
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Anyone else noticing that the battery percentage goes down incredibly fast when screen is on ?
I've never ever seen a phone go down so fast and I've had the note
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The Note is an extremely ****ty device to compare to. The battery it has is much larger than ours.
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Have been advised to turn cell broadcast off
Supposed to save a bit if battery.
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What do you mean cell broadcast? Where is that?
my N4 is 1% per minute screen on
2% streaming video, that right, 40 minute netflix = 80% battery gone
NFC and cell broadcast off, gps off, screen at 50% brightness
Like a fool i sold my iPhone 5 and got the nexus 4 only to be having this issue FML
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I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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Mind posting battery stats?
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I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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And how much screen time are you showing?
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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What launcher were you using? I unplugged at 7-8 am this morning and attached are my stats. Sometimes it drains more than others but overall the battery life is pretty amazing.
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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Well, for starters wifi is at 0% which means ur constantly using 4G which can suck ur battery dry especially if you're in an area with bad reception.
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Well, for starters wifi is at 0% which means ur constantly using 4G which can suck ur battery dry especially if you're in an area with bad reception.
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My wifi always shows it's connected as a solid blue line, but I've been on LTE all day.
Might be a rogue app running in the background or something? I use the Active Apps widget and randomly end programs from time to time while clearing up the RAM as well. Hopefully it's just a rogue app or bad battery?
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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You're definitely not getting what you should. Look at my stats, a lot of wifi but also not as much held awake time on my phone considering what I have as Battery time. Take a look around there's things you can disable like bloatware that may be holding your phone from sleeping. Also see if you can reconfigure that one app, maybe it updates to often. I don't usually have any app drain more then kernel and the android system.
Or its your battery if you've done all that.
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Are you rooted?
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Are you rooted?
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If you are asking me, no.
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I was having that same problem when first got my phone. I'm pretty sure it was the new themer application it, worked fine until I uninstalled it, then my battery constantly needed to be charged. To originally fix it I backed up and factory reset it then it seemed to be working fine but now that I'm rooted I have been using greenify and it works like a dream. It tells you in better detail what's draining your battery and what wakes it up in your background as it tries to sleep. Now I get about 22 hours with pretty regular usage
With 56 minutes on screen time, I should get close to ten hours... you must have an app that is killing your battery or that uses data alot
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Here is how mine is looking today so far, I would say my Note 3 outlasts my other phones no problem.. biggest offenders I noticed that wrecked mine was Google Settings>Location Reporting turned that off, and when I dont need it turn everything off in Settings>Location Reporting.. when I go out or want to use Google Now I turn it on .. I greenified a lot of the stupid apps like My Magazine or disabled them outright
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Here is how mine is looking today so far, I would say my Note 3 outlasts my other phones no problem.. biggest offenders I noticed that wrecked mine was Google Settings>Location Reporting turned that off, and when I dont need it turn everything off in Settings>Location Reporting.. when I go out or want to use Google Now I turn it on .. I greenified a lot of the stupid apps like My Magazine or disabled them outright
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Three things, one are you rooted. Two if not, is the beginning of it while you are sleeping or using it? If using it, what other things have you tweaked If not rooted.
And third but completely unrelated, I see you have a sense clock, if you want a great one that is pretty much a perfect copy of sense, take a look at "sense v2 flip click and weather". I use that and love it
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Three things, one are you rooted. Two if not, is the beginning of it while you are sleeping or using it? If using it, what other things have you tweaked If not rooted.
And third but completely unrelated, I see you have a sense clock, if you want a great one that is pretty much a perfect copy of sense, take a look at "sense v2 flip click and weather". I use that and love it
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I can't speak for Neo but I'm rooted, but before then I still had amazing battery life because I disabled most if not all the bloatware.
I've disabled most of the bloat ware, I think. I'm it rooted. I'm just always plugging this thing in
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I do want to root though
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So I'll start off by saying my battery only lasts 8-10 hours from 100% to dead. So fair I have pinpointed the issue but I don't know how to fix it. I'm using an at&t d800
When my WiFi is on, no or unknown signal and no data connection start ticking and killing my battery. If I never turn my WiFi on my battery will last 19 hour or more.
Has anyone less encountered this issue and/or know how to fix this.
I have had this on bone stock 10o and on gravios rls 4.
Please I really would like to use my ac router and to get better battery life.
Thanks for your time.
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get betterbatterystats and look into wakelocks, check kernel, then partial and google the living daylight
turn wifi off when no signal, not that complicated really.
lobby with your provider for better coverage in your area.
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all of that dont work, then warrantee, or get an Iphone so you dont need to worry about silly wakelocks and unfriendly way of managing phone that Android requires
No odd wakelocks killing my battery. Sorry forgot to say my signal is 100%
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It's only when I have WiFi on that my phone thinks it has no signal even though it has 100%
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krypticos said:
No odd wakelocks killing my battery. Sorry forgot to say my signal is 100%
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of those ten hours how long is screen on?
1-2 hours and that's texting and web
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1-2 hours and that's texting and web
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you seem to have faulty unit then, I would bring it back
Really that's all it could be dang I bought it off craigslist. Ok time to trade it off then.
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Really that's all it could be dang I bought it off craigslist. Ok time to trade it off then.
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lol, just bring it back to a lg dealer
if that doesn't work, buy replacement battery, there are threads here how to open the phone.
or root it, twrp recovery it, wipe the bagesus ( not the sd card) out of it. so its clean. Then reinstall stock or good custom.
then condition battery, a couple times full charge down to zero and up again.
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lol, just bring it back to a lg dealer
if that doesn't work, buy replacement battery, there are threads here how to open the phone.
or root it, twrp recovery it, wipe the bagesus ( not the sd card) out of it. so its clean. Then reinstall stock or good custom.
then condition battery, a couple times full charge down to zero and up again.
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LG Dealer? also its not the battery not holding a charge its if my wifi is on the battery drains like crazy because my phone thinks there is no siganl so its boosting the cellular radio. with out wifi on it doesnt do that so the battery lasts a long time.
well good news it is software related. i installed cm 11 and wifi on is not causing the no signal wake lock.
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lol, just bring it back to a lg dealer
if that doesn't work, buy replacement battery, there are threads here how to open the phone.
or root it, twrp recovery it, wipe the bagesus ( not the sd card) out of it. so its clean. Then reinstall stock or good custom.
then condition battery, a couple times full charge down to zero and up again.
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Conditioning is only good for Ni-Mh battery's but bad for Li-Poly battery's. (which g2 uses) 0% and 100% are bad for them. The best is to charge them from about 10% to 95% if possible.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Sounds like that nasty stock gms wifi text service issue bs...
k3xx said:
Conditioning is only good for Ni-Mh battery's but bad for Li-Poly battery's. (which g2 uses) 0% and 100% are bad for them. The best is to charge them from about 10% to 95% if possible.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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I dont understand why my battery if I charge it past 100% grants me an hour longer screen on time. I did notice a different span when using till 50 and then charging it again. Once I went from 100 to zero and back up it seemed it reset itself.
weird battery I guess.
Bad calibration is all. Its that magic 1% @100 and crap 5% bottom end. Noticeable across all devices. Evens itself out, never ends. Seems at 100% starting, its not really fully charged.
Steamer86 said:
Sounds like that nasty stock gms wifi text service issue bs...
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what is this? how do i fix it?
krypticos said:
what is this? how do i fix it?
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actually it doesnt cause all that does is lose network when network reception is low. It doesnt affect battery like your battery is affected.
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48873307