Nexus 7 2013 screen light leak on top side - Nexus 7 (2013) General

I noticed there is a light leak in the Nexus 7 2013 when playing games with dark scenes. Here's a photo of mine:
http://oi41.tinypic.com/2uzqbgn.jpg

That specific area of bleed is present to some degree on most units.

That's my problem too.
Where can i get their support email? I'm thinking if i can keep it for awhile then return to them for replacement after 2 months. Can i do that?
@scandiun will you send it back?
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How about a picture of a "dark game" where you see this? Also, is your brightness all the way up? Put your brightness where you usually have it and show picture of real world use where you see this..
I think the whole light bleed thing is always blown out of proportion. Many people go to a black screen and then turn the brightness all the way up and think they have a giant issue when the truth is most would never see it at all under normal use.
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Richieboy67 said:
How about a picture of a "dark game" where you see this? Also, is your brightness all the way up? Put your brightness where you usually have it and show picture of real world use where you see this..
I think the whole light bleed thing is always blown out of proportion. Many people go to a black screen and then turn the brightness all the way up and think they have a giant issue when the truth is most would never see it at all under normal use.
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Of course I'm displaying a black image with brightness to the maximum. However, with brightness to the medium it's still noticeable on games like Mystery Room which have a black frame on dialog scenes. I tried to take a photo of it but the center of the screen gets oversaturated so does not reflect what you are seen in person.
In the iPad that doesn't happen, so if there's a difference there's a reason for it, and the reason is lower standards.

Richieboy67 said:
How about a picture of a "dark game" where you see this? Also, is your brightness all the way up? Put your brightness where you usually have it and show picture of real world use where you see this..
I think the whole light bleed thing is always blown out of proportion. Many people go to a black screen and then turn the brightness all the way up and think they have a giant issue when the truth is most would never see it at all under normal use.
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A LOT of movies and tv shows have several dark scenes, some are all night time/dark. If you have even a little light bleed you're going to notice it. And don't be an apologist and say something like "it's a tablet, not a tv", even Google promotes it as a device for media consumption. No one should accept light bleed.
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Richieboy67 said:
How about a picture of a "dark game" where you see this? Also, is your brightness all the way up? Put your brightness where you usually have it and show picture of real world use where you see this..
I think the whole light bleed thing is always blown out of proportion. Many people go to a black screen and then turn the brightness all the way up and think they have a giant issue when the truth is most would never see it at all under normal use.
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I've noticed light bleed on top of my tablet, but it didn't bother me because it was faint and only noticeable, like you said, on a black screen. The build quality is still bad regardless if it bothers me or not, and I would think it's something to get people noticed about so it's fixed rather than brushing it off like it doesn't matter.

FluffyR said:
I would think it's something to get people noticed about so it's fixed rather than brushing it off like it doesn't matter.
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I don't think it's something fixable by software. Rather seems the physical location of the backlight which of course you can't change.

scandiun said:
I don't think it's something fixable by software. Rather seems the physical location of the backlight which of course you can't change.
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I realize this, I think the quality control from ASUS is crap. When I say to get it fixed, I meant for future production models.
So for people that have returned theirs and waiting to buy another one down the line it wouldn't be a problem for them.
Might not even happen if people don't realize or make a fuss about it. Personally, the static sound issue bothers me more than this slight light bleed.

FluffyR said:
I realize this, I think the quality control from ASUS is crap. When I say to get it fixed, I meant for future production models.
So for people that have returned theirs and waiting to buy another one down the line it wouldn't be a problem for them.
Might not even happen if people don't realize or make a fuss about it. Personally, the static sound issue bothers me more than this slight light bleed.
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I would rather go with a Samsung tablet, but they are still behind in terms of screen quality, for example the Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 or 8.0. So I will wait.
Anybody can confirm that the Galaxy Tabs don't have this issue?

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Mine was like this but I managed to sort it.....here is how
Get a mobile phone mobile repair kit from Amazon or eBay for a couple of quid, as long as it has a large flat pry bar in then that's all you need.
You may need to research this bit, but you tube how to take the back cover off nexus 7 2013 and follow their instructions to do so.
Once the back is off loosen all the screws you can see by one or two turns, lay the nexus on a flat surface and tighten the screws up pretty tight, usually a little tighter than they were before, turn the nexus on but be careful and run a light bleed app. Check any areas where there is light bleed, re undo the screws in the area and slightly bend the chassis (very lightly!!!) And let settle then re do up the screws, keep doing this until most of the bleed has gone. Finally, get the back case, slightly bend the case in on itself as with mine it was pulling more in one direction making the nexus chassis bend slightly. Please treat gently, don't be rough at all.then pop it all back together starting from the charging port making sure its lines up correctly.....and bingo, much less bleed.
The bleed seems to be because the chassis is very flexible and the screen is solid, and its just a matter of the screen 'settling' in the right place I guess.
I hope this helps people out.
If your not technical then I wouldn't try it as you could easily short something out, but it worked for me very well
Good luck

FluffyR said:
I realize this, I think the quality control from ASUS is crap. When I say to get it fixed, I meant for future production models.
So for people that have returned theirs and waiting to buy another one down the line it wouldn't be a problem for them.
Might not even happen if people don't realize or make a fuss about it. Personally, the static sound issue bothers me more than this slight light bleed.
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I agree that quality control is crap. But that's what we get when we buy a tablet at this price point. Is it wrong to expect perfection when we pay our hard earned money to companies like Asus? No. But realistically, how many of us can say that our tablet is literally perfect?
I honestly feel that the Nexus line of tablets will never be perfect. They will always have some sort of issues. Asus just doesn't care because they keep selling millions of units. Unless there is a national boycott of buying Nexus tablets the issues will always be there.

Yaminashi said:
I agree that quality control is crap. But that's what we get when we buy a tablet at this price point. Is it wrong to expect perfection when we pay our hard earned money to companies like Asus? No. But realistically, how many of us can say that our tablet is literally perfect?
I honestly feel that the Nexus line of tablets will never be perfect. They will always have some sort of issues. Asus just doesn't care because they keep selling millions of units. Unless there is a national boycott of buying Nexus tablets the issues will always be there.
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The screen itself is not that bad. It's better screen that ipad mini retina.

Mine has light bleed aswell on top center of the screen but as it was stated, it doesn't bother me since it's not noticeable during everyday usage. Only time I can see it perfectly is during booting where the screen is totally black.
Now, I also believe this is the case regarding all the other occurencies and people just blow it out of proportion.
Also, if it is that bad, just return it, or post on the appropriate threads. There are already millions of threads here and everywhere else about this...
It's annoying.

username4this said:
Mine has light bleed aswell on top center of the screen but as it was stated, it doesn't bother me since it's not noticeable during everyday usage. Only time I can see it perfectly is during booting where the screen is totally black.
Now, I also believe this is the case regarding all the other occurencies and people just blow it out of proportion.
Also, if it is that bad, just return it, or post on the appropriate threads. There are already millions of threads here and everywhere else about this...
It's annoying.
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In the end it's not that important, it's much worse the sound issue.

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Light blobs on black screen

Anyone else notice lighter blobs on their screen when a black app is loaded?
Try the night clock and tell me if you see any.
I use my phone as a clock at night and I just got this today and wow is it noticeable.
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groaner said:
Anyone else notice lighter blobs on their screen when a black app is loaded?
Try the night clock and tell me if you see any.
I use my phone as a click at night and I just got this today and wow is it noticeable.
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I also had that issue on my first unit, I had it replaced.
A quite bellow summarizes all the screen issues on the S2.
BarryH_GEG said:
There's really two separate issues that sometimes overlap:
1) The left side banding which appears along with a yellow tint either under certain conditions or, to some, in everyday use. This would seem to be a design issue as, to date, it shows up on every single phone produced.
2) Screen QC issues which include: 1) suction cup circles from production, 2) fingerprints on the inside of the display, 3) dead pixels, 4) vertical or horizontal lines, 5) ghosting, 6) white or black blotches, and 7) wide swings in color temperature.
There's no doubt the QC issues are probably vexing to Samsung. Based on the sheer quantity of displays they need to produce to satisfy demand they're either intentionally allowing displays to go out that shouldn't or are finding out from customers that bad displays got passed QC. Considering the large number of phones sold it's hard to guess the bad:good ratio but it would appear its larger than appropriate. And it doesn't appear to be getting better as newer builds seem to have the same issues as early builds. So banding may be forever but swapping phones may definitely help with the other issues.
I do think that adding the QC issues on top of the banding issue does compound it on some phones. That could certainly explain why some of us are happy and others aren't. There's still a lot of subjectivity at play so it will always be hard to say if what's acceptable to some is unacceptable to others. But with all the phones sold, you'd still think if more than a few percent had serious screen issues there would be a bigger audience for this thread and the issue(s) would have become more prominent on its own. I'd like to think things will get better but production demands may continue to allow QC issues to occur at higher than normal rates. Something that's frustrating for everyone - including Samsung.
Someone said something about the technology being flawed. Here's two links to stories where Apple was/is trying to get SAMOLED for their products. To me, it just helps reinforce that the benefits (color, contrast, viewing angles) still outweigh the downsides (screen life, burn in, inconsistency). And I'm sure Apple's engineers fully reviewed both the upside and downside before considering SAMOLED so it's still kind of a vote of confidence in the technology.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/2...y-for-iphone-hd-4g-due-to-supply-constraints/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/05/26/we.rebuff.rumor.of.amoled.ipad.3.in.2011/
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Thanks!
I'll have to get back there to have it replaced.
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I've had it replaced 3 times now, I'm on my 4th unit. I can exchange one more time before I have to send it out for repairs.
I'll wait for them to get a new shipment in with different serial numbers (all the ones i've had start with the same 4 digits) and hope i get clean ones.
I called Samsung and the rep i spoke to told me that they have not heard of this issue.
Well they have 3 units in their back room with this issue so they will see it.
I think I will have to take a long-exposure photo to show them what the issue is.
Fingers crossed the next shipment is clear.
groaner said:
I've had it replaced 3 times now, I'm on my 4th unit. I can exchange one more time before I have to send it out for repairs.
I'll wait for them to get a new shipment in with different serial numbers (all the ones i've had start with the same 4 digits) and hope i get clean ones.
I called Samsung and the rep i spoke to told me that they have not heard of this issue.
Well they have 3 units in their back room with this issue so they will see it.
I think I will have to take a long-exposure photo to show them what the issue is.
Fingers crossed the next shipment is clear.
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I've seen this isseu quite often when I had my phone exchanged mainly for a different screen defect, just be warned though since you had so many exchanges some people here might not actually believe that you went through 4 phones because 6Million phones sold and all that jazz.
Good idea that you decided to wait for another shipping, maybe you can even get a refund and just buy from another store that has good stocks?
I don't care what other believe or not. If they want to see my receipt plus the 2 exchange receipts I have here in this bag beside me I'll send them a picture.
Regardless, I must be one of the few people who have this screen problem AND use the phone as a night clock.
I am posting this for information to anyone who also has experienced or may wonder if their phone also has this issue.
If you dont have it, GREAT! I wish I had your phone.
(ps, this isnt a rant, just want this to be over)
I have zero issues with my screen; no ghosting, yellow/pink tint, light bolbs etc.
but no one believes me
groaner said:
I don't care what other believe or not. If they want to see my receipt plus the 2 exchange receipts I have here in this bag beside me I'll send them a picture.
Regardless, I must be one of the few people who have this screen problem AND use the phone as a night clock.
I am posting this for information to anyone who also has experienced or may wonder if their phone also has this issue.
If you dont have it, GREAT! I wish I had your phone.
(ps, this isnt a rant, just want this to be over)
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Someone else in Canada (Toronto) went through five phones because of tinting issues with the display. He too exchanged them back-to-back from the same store. If you've been going to the same store, and there was a run of bad displays, all the phones built in sequence could be effected. Can't you go to a different store and exchange it there?
Have the same problem, its like blobs/smudges that are lighter black/greyish. Not an even black color.
Its best noticeable in a dark room without any other light, not even the light of the touch buttons or top bar active (so your eyes are adjusted to seeing in the dark). Using this image I can see it clearly. Auto adjust screen power doesn't influence it.
I think we all may have blobs to varying degrees. The other day I looked at my screen in bright sunlight with polarized sunglasses on. It made the screen look black but you could clearly see random beige blotches all over it. In normal use I think my screen is as close to perfect as there is and when looking at a black background in the dark I don't see blobs or blotches. The "O" in AMOLED stands for organic which means alive. Maybe what we're seeing is a by product of the technology.
Nivekius said:
Have the same problem, its like blobs/smudges that are lighter black/greyish. Not an even black color.
Its best noticeable in a dark room without any other light, not even the light of the touch buttons or top bar active (so your eyes are adjusted to seeing in the dark). Using this image I can see it clearly. Auto adjust screen power doesn't influence it.
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You got it too!
Well, i'm glad I'm not alone sorry that you have it too.
Hopefully I will get a call from the store when the new shipment comes in and the issue will go away.
I tried going to another store and was told DOA's could not be exchanged at other stores that they had to go back to the store it was purchased at.
It is likely that all phones at Bell at all the stores at the same time may well come from the same batch.
I can wait over the weekend. I bought it on the 1st so still have most of my 30 day period to do the exchange. after that its repairs only. trying to avoid that.
I tried to get back the first one I had as it didn't have it as bad as all the subsequent ones I've had. Once a phone is marked DOA it can not be resold until it has been reconditioned and put back through the system. Understandable.
BarryH_GEG said:
I think we all may have blobs to varying degrees. The other day I looked at my screen in bright sunlight with polarized sunglasses on. It made the screen look black but you could clearly see random beige blotches all over it. In normal use I think my screen is as close to perfect as there is and when looking at a black background in the dark I don't see blobs or blotches. The "O" in AMOLED stands for organic which means alive. Maybe what we're seeing is a by product of the technology.
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I agree and I can accept some imperfections but I'd like to get as close to "perfect" as I can seeing that I had it in the beginning (WHY didnt I keep the first one?!)
Oh well, I'll take what I get with the new shipment and be happy with it,unless there is functional issues, then I'll be
BarryH_GEG said:
In normal use I think my screen is as close to perfect as there is and when looking at a black background in the dark I don't see blobs or blotches. The "O" in AMOLED stands for organic which means alive. Maybe what we're seeing is a by product of the technology.
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Well good you don't see any blobs or perhaps you are suffering from a certain degree of Nyctalopia. Sometimes a disorder is not bad, see no evil ... Nonetheless the O in AMOLED doesn't stand for alive, just for a chemical compound containing molecules with carbon.
I must add that two Galaxy S (i9000) models I have looked at don't have this issue, at all. The screens are fully and equally the same black tint/shade. Taking a picture to capture the problem has proven to be somewhat difficult, but this old camera probably isn't really anything to write home about these days.
Nivekius said:
Well good you don't see any blobs or perhaps you are suffering from a certain degree of Nyctalopia. Sometimes a disorder is not bad, see no evil
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OCD is also a recognized disorder in which the pursuit of perfection overtakes one's life. If I had problems with my phone I'd have no problem sharing them. I've posted tons of pics of my phone in the dark, in the light, on grey, showing apps, and at every brightness level between 0% and 100%. I'm not going to apologize because I have a decent screen. Though I do sympathize with those that aren't satisfied for whatever the reason.
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OCD is also a recognized disorder in which the pursuit of perfection overtakes one's life. If I had problems with my phone I'd have no problem sharing them. I've posted tons of pics of my phone in the dark, in the light, on grey, showing apps, and at every brightness level between 0% and 100%. I'm not going to apologize because I have a decent screen. Though I do sympathize with those that aren't satisfied for whatever the reason.
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I dream of having a phone like yours.
I'm glad that all i have are these splotches on the screen in the darkness. it is not viewable at any other time and all other functions of the phone are perfect.
I can live with the splotches if i have to but would prefer to not. I'll exchange one more time and leave it.
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I dream of having a phone like yours.
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I'm sure I'm not special. If you look at the low level of participation in the display threads either people have low standards or the majority of phones are like mine. Even within the display threads, 50% of the posts are by the same dozen or so people. In the other Canadian display thread a bunch of people from Toronto posted they had no problems. So keep spinning the wheel, you're bound to get lucky.
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OCD is also a recognized disorder in which the pursuit of perfection overtakes one's life.
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Obsessive–compulsive disorder is not how you describe it, perfectionism is. Some more of this perfectionism for a company like Samsung would not be bad at all.
It was not meant to be taken seriously anyway (hence the smiley). Albeit a joke, people whom suffer from night blindness will of course not see this particular issue though.
While I believe I did not post in the other display problem threads. I do have yellow tint and pink/blueish shade from all angles except from front. Which of course doesn't make it sound like a decent and proper SAMOLED+ display at all. Since I have a Galaxy S that doesn't exhibit these problems, it of course makes me a little disappointed.
Nivekius said:
Obsessive–compulsive disorder is not how you describe it, perfectionism is. Some more of this perfectionism for a company like Samsung would not be bad at all.
It was not meant to be taken seriously anyway (hence the smiley). Albeit a joke, people whom suffer from night blindness will of course not see this particular issue though.
While I believe I did not post in the other display problem threads. I do have yellow tint and pink/blueish shade from all angles except from front. Which of course doesn't make it sound like a decent and proper SAMOLED+ display at all. Since I have a Galaxy S that doesn't exhibit these problems, it of course makes me a little disappointed.
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I wasn't attacking you, just having a little fun trading disorders. I actually considered myself anal retentive until I started participating in this forum. ;-)
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The anal stage, hmm no let's just leave Freud there. He doesn't have blops on his screen anyway.
I can not exchange my phone, probably because it was included for "free" with a Vodafone plan, even though I just have it a couple of days. The shop implied I could sent it in for repair but I am reluctant to do that for various reasons.
bruflot said:
I have zero issues with my screen; no ghosting, yellow/pink tint, light bolbs etc.
but no one believes me
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Not all phones are affected with the same assortment of issues but I find it hard to believe that your phone does not have any ghosting, its an limitation on the SAMOLED+, Im not saying your lying but I dont believe that claim either. For the yellow banding on the left side user to user and phone to phone subjective.
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I must add that two Galaxy S (i9000) models I have looked at don't have this issue, at all. The screens are fully and equally the same black tint/shade. Taking a picture to capture the problem has proven to be somewhat difficult, but this old camera probably isn't really anything to write home about these days.
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One of my thoughts also point to that a lot of S2 owners are first time users of SAMOLED screens, hence they dont know what to expect or have an entire low level of expectations. The S2 is my 3rd phone with a SAMOLED based technology and pretty much the expectation should be higher than the first generation SAMOLED right?
But all people say that these defects are expected are we are the minority as millions and millions of phones getting sold but theres no "internet media coverage" about it and they start bringing in other phones as a comparison when the only comparison needed is the previous generation SAMOLED.
I was initially very disappointed on this until I had my phone exchanged (Had to sort out over a dozen phones) and also XXKGx firmware alleviated the yellow banding, right now Im happy with what I got but I can be happier if the quality on the SAMOLED+ surpassed the first generation, The regular SAMOLED is superior in every way even if it was pentile. I just gotta hope for the best when the SGS3 and SAMOLED HD comes out.
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The anal stage, hmm no let's just leave Freud there. He doesn't have blops on his screen anyway.
I can not exchange my phone, probably because it was included for "free" with a Vodafone plan, even though I just have it a couple of days. The shop implied I could sent it in for repair but I am reluctant to do that for various reasons.
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This could also be a possible reason why Samsung has never said anything about the display issues on the S2, a lot of shops are refusing exchanges and sending customers to the service center and have repairs instead, probably Samsung has informed its retail channel that they will be replacing deadpixels only anything should be dealt with by the retailer.. well just a conspiracy theory =)

Can some one explain why light bleeding is bad?

I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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darkstar765 said:
I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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It's a personal thing as to how much light bleed you can tolerate, and some light bleed is going to occur on almost any LCD panel.
Good news is, it's not a condition that gets worse (usually) so what you have now is all you'll have. And it sometimes diminishes as the hardware is "broken in" (but don't get your hopes up).
In other words, if you have to go looking for it, chances are you can live with it. If it's not bothering you now, it's not likely to bother you more in the future. If it DOES bother you, RMA it, as it's likely to keep bothering you.
That's why.
wow, mine has no light bleed at all. That's pretty bad.
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I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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As croak says its a very personal thing, and i guess its a matter of how you use it, Personally I use tablets alot whilst travelling, normally overnight, and play movies etc, which means dark surroundings and dark backgrounds which then shows any obvious light bleed and it sticks out.
If you just use it during the day with bright colourful backgrounds etc then as long as the bleed isn't really bad then you'll be fine.
so far i've only found 2 tablets with no light bleed, the Acer A510 and the Sony Xperia Tablet S, unfortunately both had other issues, the the Sony waterproof tablet not being waterproof for example lol.
Do note that light bleed is going to look 10x worse when captured with a camera.
I do have some, but you can barely if at all see it with auto-brightness. Ha ha, idk why I get so picky about my displays. Especially considering i'll probably buy the new one next year.

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I've heard many people complain about the unresponsiveness of the screen and its yellow tint. How bad is the unresponsiveness for someone who has this phone? Does it bother you that much and slow your typing? Does the yellow tint bother you? I'm coming from the SGS2 and I'm interesting in buying the N4 but I hear so many bad things about it. Additionally, I heard there is a rattle in the phone? I read up on XDA on a poll thread but I think it's normal? What do you think? Is this phone better than the SGS3? (sorry to bring up this phone) and not considering the prices of both devices. I want to forget about the price and just focus on which one will not give me any noticeable problems
Thanks!
i can verify that its not too difficult to press lightly and not have a touch register. although i dont usually press very lightly, so it really depends on the individual. if you normally have a delicate touch you will notice it. personally it doesn't slow me down at all.
Henryy97 said:
I've heard many people complain about the unresponsiveness of the screen and its yellow tint. How bad is the unresponsiveness for someone who has this phone? Does it bother you that much and slow your typing? Does the yellow tint bother you? I'm coming from the SGS2 and I'm interesting in buying the N4 but I hear so many bad things about it. Additionally, I heard there is a rattle in the phone? I read up on XDA on a poll thread but I think it's normal? What do you think? Is this phone better than the SGS3? (sorry to bring up this phone) and not considering the prices of both devices. I want to forget about the price and just focus on which one will not give me any noticeable problems
Thanks!
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jayluke said:
i can verify that its not too difficult to press lightly and not have a touch register. although i dont usually press very lightly, so it really depends on the individual. if you normally have a delicate touch you will notice it. personally it doesn't slow me down at all.
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I wonder what you mean by 'light'. Are you happy you bought it? did you notice the yellow tint?
The yellow tint can only be seen from extreme angles and I'm doing perfectly fine with the screen sensitivity.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
The yellow tint can only be seen from extreme angles and I'm doing perfectly fine with the screen sensitivity.
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Thanks! I'd still like to hear a bit more from other people :3 By the way did you face any other issues with the n4? at all? hows the battery?
I don't think you will be disappointed by this phone coming from an S2. Most of the "issues" have been blown out of proportion. The rattle being the best example.
Yellow tint?
The screen is on the warmer side, or may have its gamma off, it's not a yellow tint. You would probably not know the difference unless you compare it side by side with something like an amoled display. Some people have mentioned a yellow tint when you look at it from the bottom left or upper right corners at an angle. This seems normal as it shows a blueish tint from the two other corners.
Rattle?
I checked mine, and to hear this rattle I have to shake the phone vigorously next to my ear and be in a completely quite room to be able to hear it, it doesn't rattle at all if you just grab or move the phone.
Screen sensitivity?
It is indeed less sensitive, for me it sometimes fails to register taps on the home button, but that's about it, it doesn't bother me that much. It depends on whether or not you're used to very light touches.
I don't have any of those issues. My response is excellent and my screen has no tint at all. In fact my N4 has none of the issues being complained about.
I think a lot of the perceived issues are overblown. Typical for a device launch. The few unhappy people post and the majority are happy and don't bother.
It seems you have more motivation to go on a board if you're having an issue than if you don't. I experienced the same thing with the gnex launch (again flawless phone) and nexus 7 launch (flawless tablet).
I don't think I'm just lucky, I just think you're more likely to find those with issues posting.
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admiez said:
I don't think you will be disappointed by this phone coming from an S2. Most of the "issues" have been blown out of proportion. The rattle being the best example.
Yellow tint?
The screen is on the warmer side, or may have its gamma off, it's not a yellow tint. You would probably not know the difference unless you compare it side by side with something like an amoled display. Some people have mentioned a yellow tint when you look at it from the bottom left or upper right corners at an angle. This seems normal as it shows a blueish tint from the two other corners.
Rattle?
I checked mine, and to hear this rattle I have to shake the phone vigorously next to my ear and be in a completely quite room to be able to hear it, it doesn't rattle at all if you just grab or move the phone.
Screen sensitivity?
It is indeed less sensitive, for me it sometimes fails to register taps on the home button, but that's about it, it doesn't bother me that much. It depends on whether or not you're used to very light touches.
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Thanks I think I'm becoming more persuaded towards the SGS3 because I love AMOLED and I'm just too worried about this phone in general.. I'm not sure what you mean by light touches though.. I usually handle my SGS2 with one hand so I kind of press densely but maybe it is not enough.. Is it hard enough, for instance, that if you press your thumb on your forearm, that your skin will bend down (not sure if thats a correct word) a bit? Or does it stay still? I would say my skin moves a bit following my thumb..
I've had neither issue but I've also had no heating issues either and people keep complaining about that too.
My screen isn't yellow-that seems like some isolated batch.
The only time my nexus 4 heated up was when I was downloading several apps, watching youtube on 3G and charging the phone all at the same time. It cooled down very quickly afterwards.
I have grown to prefer the 'touch error' of this screen, I came from an SGS2 which has a super-sensitive screen (it can be activated by hovering close to it), often a swipe or light touch would register as a single point touch and take me elsewhere in the phone, especially with one-handed use. Now, though, I actually have to press something to select it. Swipes don't register as single point touches, an errant finger in one hand use mostly won't register, which is brilliant IMHO. I prefer it.
Choosing between the N4 and SGS3 is the hardest thing in my life so far. Just kidding. I hate the SGS3's design and I think the N4 is the most sexy beautiful beast in the world. Anyway, thanks a lot of the replies guys but I have... a possibly last query.. What would you guys do if you had a change to pick again from both of those phones?
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Thanks I think I'm becoming more persuaded towards the SGS3 because I love AMOLED and I'm just too worried about this phone in general.. I'm not sure what you mean by light touches though.. I usually handle my SGS2 with one hand so I kind of press densely but maybe it is not enough.. Is it hard enough, for instance, that if you press your thumb on your forearm, that your skin will bend down (not sure if thats a correct word) a bit? Or does it stay still? I would say my skin moves a bit following my thumb..
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Then I don't think you will have a problem with screen sensitivity. The most compelling reasons to get this phone are the stock android experience, future upgrades availability, and its solid build, it feels great in your hand. You will have to weight those attributes versus your preference for amoled screens. I have a Samsung 7.7 tab which has one of the best amoled screens I've seen and great hardware, but the lack of support and SW upgrades sort of makes the Nexus 7 a better option.
My screen does not look yellow to me, but it can depend on what phone you just came from. To me the green in some apps is not as vibrant as it was on my HTC One S.
I have no issues.
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Thanks guys.. again xD What do you guys recommend for me?
No yellow tint on my screen, however the screen sensitivity is slightly less responsive than the Galaxy S III, but should'nt be too much of an issue. I would recommend the Nexus 4 due to the price, pure android experience, and the first to get updates.
When speaking of touch sesitivity you need to keep in mind that you are talking about a capacitive screen. That means it senses the capacitive charge setup from your finger and the screen. This can be effected by your skin, oil/dirt on your skin/screen, moisture content and temprature of the air. For these reasons it is very difficult to accurately compare the opinion of your touch to someone else's opinion of their touch.
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Thanks guys.. again xD What do you guys recommend for me?
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n4...200%
after two slcd 2 devices.... I'll never look at amoled again.
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Battery life isn't as good as the GS2, nor is the speaker or build quality and there is no Micro SD slot or removable battery. What is also annoying is seeing my friends I noticed that black levels were more of a grey, I just cannot get used to non OLED screens any more. There isn't really any improvement over the GS2, the only thing you can say is specs but the Nexus 4 is hardly the king, it's lagging behind the competition even with it's superior hardware, purely because of build quality from LG.
I was excited for the Nexus 4 but unless you cannot afford a Smart Phone and the £280 price point is perfect for you then there is no reason to buy it. I'm just gonna get the GS4 on my upgrade next year.
I came from a Galaxy SIII , and I couldn't be any happier. My battery life is much better, the screen has no yellow hue to it that I can see, even at weird angles, the touch screen couldn't be any more sensitive in the opinion (its just as sensitive as my sgs3 was) , the rattle is there, but you have to have the ear piece right up against your ear to hear it at all, if not it barely audible. To me, this phone is the best Android device I've ever owned, and I've owned ALOT of them. One more thing, this is the best screen ive ever seen on a smartphone too. Text is extremely crisp, colors are true to life, and it is really bright!
I hope this, and everyone else's posts have calmed your concerns about the Nexus 4. To be honest , you be missing out on an amazing device if you chose not to get it because some people are overly dramatic .
I hope you get it
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This Nexus 4 crap is really perplex.. I don't know if to buy it or not. The price doesn't matter right now, I just want a good smartphone with a lot of development teams and sexy design along with good specs. To be honest, I saw the SGS3 on a store and I used it and the screen is amazing but if i get like 1 inch close I can actually see pixels .-. And additionally, I HATE the design. But if there's no other better choice I'll get it. What do you guys recommend? forget about the price please.

does anyone not have light bleed?

Hi. I read a lot of light bleed issues.
Are there any without light bleed?
Is there a poll on this. I am curious about the ratio.
I am getting my nexus 10 today and will not be able to use it till the 25th.
I hope I wont be RMAing it on the 26th...
Thanks joe
I have purchased 3 N10s so far for myself, family member and a friend. All were purchased with 1 week or so gap and all 3 have backlight bleed to varying degree. Unless you have really bad bleed which is discoloured like too yellow, stick with what you have as there is every chance you might get worse piece.
While backlight bleed does not bother you most of the times, yellow one is whole different story.
Funkym0nkey said:
I have purchased 3 N10s so far for myself, family member and a friend. All were purchased with 1 week or so gap and all 3 have backlight bleed to varying degree. Unless you have really bad bleed which is discoloured like too yellow, stick with what you have as there is every chance you might get worse piece.
While backlight bleed does not bother you most of the times, yellow one is whole different story.
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Agree. My first one was the best, it was a relatively small bleed and it was white. I should have kept it. My 2 other replacements were yellow and that sucks. I am hoping my next replacement will be either no bleed or very small white bleed.
I haven't done a full-on light bleed test in a dark room yet, but I have not noticed any on my N10. So, if I have any on my screen, it's very mild.
I just received my N10 yesterday, so it's possible they've improved more recent ones...
I ordered mine the day it was released and I don't notice any at all either. I have not run a full test on it because if I don't see it (even when trying to find it) under normal usage conditions I do not really care if a test says I have it or not. Screen looks perfect to me so I am not really looking for reasons to not like it.
Would be good if you post on this thread to specify what is your BRIGHTNESS setting (full, auto, %, etc)
I have no light bleed on mine bought day of release.
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I don't notice any at all either. I have not run a full test on it because if I don't see it (even when trying to find it) under normal usage conditions I do not really care if a test says I have it or not. Screen looks perfect to me so I am not really looking for reasons to not like it.
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The same. Fantastic tablet and although some people do seem to genuinely have a defective screen, some people are totally nitpicking and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. If your screen is totally black you're not actually using your tablet for anything so these tests people are running are pretty unrealistic.
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I'm sure all LCD displays have light bleed.
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I am getting my nexus 10 today and will not be able to use it till the 25th.
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Christmas present then I guess? Mine is too but I convinced the wife to allow me to check it was fault-free and set it up with all my apps and settings so it's ready to go on Christmas day!
Whilst she was at work and it was my day off, I had a good 8 hours of fun testing
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The same. Fantastic tablet and although some people do seem to genuinely have a defective screen, some people are totally nitpicking and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. If your screen is totally black you're not actually using your tablet for anything so these tests people are running are pretty unrealistic.
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Completely agree with your comment. Some might have true issues. I can see that mine has a slight bleed on the right side but there will never be a time where I sit in a completely dark room and stare at a black screen. Even at full brightness the slight bleed does not affect the look of my tablet in any way. It's an all around beautiful device!
None i've noticed in normal use but also havent gone searching for it. If the only way you can see the light bleed is when the screen is completely black then who cares. If the screen is on and completely black all the time then you have others problems besides light bleed.
My n10 has very little to no light bleed
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None here. Got mine on Monday, expecting to have at least one issue...but not one so far.
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very slight bleed for mine, not noticeable until i turn up the brightness all the way up and really look for it with a black screen
Mine is perfectly fine. No issue.
Mine looks perfect. Of course I'm not looking specifically to see if I do. It amazes me how many people on the forums are going out of their way to look for issues with their tablet.
If it looks good while I'm using it and I have no issues I'm OK with that!!
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I'm not looking specifically to see if I do. It amazes me how many people on the forums are going out of their way to look for issues with their tablet.
If it looks good while I'm using it and I have no issues I'm OK with that!!
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Exactly. On any device, if you're looking for problems you'll inevitably find some but in the real world under usage you'll notice none whatsoever
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I did a bit more experimenting today. If I bring up a full-screen black image in a dark room with screen brightness at 100%, I can see some minimal light bleed in the lower two corners. My guess is, as others have said, that this is just going to be a given with these types of screens. I also noticed:
As soon as I set my screen brightness to auto, while still in a dark room with a full-screen black image, the light bleed was totally unnoticeable.
As soon as I turned on the lights in the room, with screen brightness still at 100% and a full-screen black image, the light bleed was totally unnoticeable.
So, for me at least, light bleed is only noticeable if I intentionally make it happen. Having the screen set to max brightness while in a totally dark room and a mostly black picture on screen is a pretty unlikely scenario in the real world. In normal usage I've never notice the light bleed, and I doubt I ever will.
I've been using my N10 since it was first released and the screen is perfect. Do you need unnatural or unusual conditions to detect light bleed?

Exactly how much light bleed is too much light bleed?

So I just purchased a Nexus 10 and am absolutely loving it. One thing I immediately noticed because I've seen it so many times is that there's a very gentle amount of light bleed. So gentle that I think it might actually be normal. Basically what it is is a thin line down the left side of the screen, right on the bezel (in landscape) that appears slightly yellowish on a few different colors. It's very subtle. A normal person would not notice this. But I'm on XDA, so I'm not normal . Anyway, I just wanted to ask others if they had the same problem. If most of the devices have it, I'll deal with it. But if not, I purchased it at Walmart and they had another one so I could easily trade. Thank you!
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jtc276 said:
So I just purchased a Nexus 10 and am absolutely loving it. One thing I immediately noticed because I've seen it so many times is that there's a very gentle amount of light bleed. So gentle that I think it might actually be normal. Basically what it is is a thin line down the left side of the screen, right on the bezel (in landscape) that appears slightly yellowish on a few different colors. It's very subtle. A normal person would not notice this. But I'm on XDA, so I'm not normal . Anyway, I just wanted to ask others if they had the same problem. If most of the devices have it, I'll deal with it. But if not, I purchased it at Walmart and they had another one so I could easily trade. Thank you!
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Honestly man it depends on whether or not it bothers you. I imagine they all have light bleed to some extend but the vast majority of people just won't know what it is or even notice it!
If it's not really bad, just keep it and enjoy it! I had to send my nexus 10 this week because of wifi issues and I'd say it had minor light bleed. The one I've been sent is probably about the same and it's new.
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Honestly man it depends on whether or not it bothers you. I imagine they all have light bleed to some extend but the vast majority of people just won't know what it is or even notice it!
If it's not really bad, just keep it and enjoy it! I had to send my nexus 10 this week because of wifi issues and I'd say it had minor light bleed. The one I've been sent is probably about the same and it's new.
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Yeah, I was guessing that this would be the case. Other than this minor issue, it's a perfect device. They only had one other at my Walmart and I'm sure that if I were to trade for it, it would have a major problem making wish I would have kept the one I have now. It really doesn't bother me at all, though, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't alone. I hope when you get your next Nexus 10 everything is good
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As most people in here I also got my N10 with light bleed and returned to Google for a refund and bought another one that also got light bleed but very minor. I decided to keep this one because actually it doesn't bother me at all.
Deciding to return a device for light bleed is completely up to you just like it is with TVs. I would say if its so noticeable that it's going to bug you everytime you turn the device on, then return it!
Mine has the "normal" lightbleed in the bottom corners. It seems you are lucky if you don't have any. Too much is personal preference.
On the other hand, iPads have it, too. I don't view in perfect conditions and rarely have a screen that is all black.
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