So I just purchased a Nexus 10 and am absolutely loving it. One thing I immediately noticed because I've seen it so many times is that there's a very gentle amount of light bleed. So gentle that I think it might actually be normal. Basically what it is is a thin line down the left side of the screen, right on the bezel (in landscape) that appears slightly yellowish on a few different colors. It's very subtle. A normal person would not notice this. But I'm on XDA, so I'm not normal . Anyway, I just wanted to ask others if they had the same problem. If most of the devices have it, I'll deal with it. But if not, I purchased it at Walmart and they had another one so I could easily trade. Thank you!
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jtc276 said:
So I just purchased a Nexus 10 and am absolutely loving it. One thing I immediately noticed because I've seen it so many times is that there's a very gentle amount of light bleed. So gentle that I think it might actually be normal. Basically what it is is a thin line down the left side of the screen, right on the bezel (in landscape) that appears slightly yellowish on a few different colors. It's very subtle. A normal person would not notice this. But I'm on XDA, so I'm not normal . Anyway, I just wanted to ask others if they had the same problem. If most of the devices have it, I'll deal with it. But if not, I purchased it at Walmart and they had another one so I could easily trade. Thank you!
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Honestly man it depends on whether or not it bothers you. I imagine they all have light bleed to some extend but the vast majority of people just won't know what it is or even notice it!
If it's not really bad, just keep it and enjoy it! I had to send my nexus 10 this week because of wifi issues and I'd say it had minor light bleed. The one I've been sent is probably about the same and it's new.
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Honestly man it depends on whether or not it bothers you. I imagine they all have light bleed to some extend but the vast majority of people just won't know what it is or even notice it!
If it's not really bad, just keep it and enjoy it! I had to send my nexus 10 this week because of wifi issues and I'd say it had minor light bleed. The one I've been sent is probably about the same and it's new.
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Yeah, I was guessing that this would be the case. Other than this minor issue, it's a perfect device. They only had one other at my Walmart and I'm sure that if I were to trade for it, it would have a major problem making wish I would have kept the one I have now. It really doesn't bother me at all, though, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't alone. I hope when you get your next Nexus 10 everything is good
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As most people in here I also got my N10 with light bleed and returned to Google for a refund and bought another one that also got light bleed but very minor. I decided to keep this one because actually it doesn't bother me at all.
Deciding to return a device for light bleed is completely up to you just like it is with TVs. I would say if its so noticeable that it's going to bug you everytime you turn the device on, then return it!
Mine has the "normal" lightbleed in the bottom corners. It seems you are lucky if you don't have any. Too much is personal preference.
On the other hand, iPads have it, too. I don't view in perfect conditions and rarely have a screen that is all black.
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Just got my fifth Nexus 7 replacement and woohooo, it has no screen separation or creaking! BUT! It has some minor backlight bleeding in the top edge of the screen. Nothing I notice on normal brightness but when I crank the brightness up to the highest I can see it. Yes I have a small case of tech OCD Should I keep the device or should any degree of backlight bleed be returned at once?
All up to you. Mine has very little screen bleed and very little lift and I'm keeping it.
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Doraso said:
Hi!
Just got my fifth Nexus 7 replacement and woohooo, it has no screen separation or creaking! BUT! It has some minor backlight bleeding in the top edge of the screen. Nothing I notice on normal brightness but when I crank the brightness up to the highest I can see it. Yes I have a small case of tech OCD Should I keep the device or should any degree of backlight bleed be returned at once?
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Personally, I would keep it. How often do you use your N7 with the brightness all the way up? I would say you're lucky to get one with no separation or creaking. Plus it doesn't seem like the minor bleeding would interfere with your everyday use of the tablet.
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All backlit LCD screens will have some light bleed.
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All backlit LCD screens will have some light bleed.
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Yep, it's a fact of life with IPS panels. I would stop looking on the Internet trying to find problems that aren't there...
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If it bothers you, exchange it. I have exchanged 5 and am keeping one with several very minor faults because faultless does not exist with the Nexus 7. If you believe those that say theirs is totally flawless, keep exchanging and you may get one eventually. I don't think there are any perfect ones though.
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If it bothers you, exchange it. I have exchanged 5 and am keeping one with several very minor faults because faultless does not exist with the Nexus 7. If you believe those that say theirs is totally flawless, keep exchanging and you may get one eventually. I don't think there are any perfect ones though.
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I have decided to keep it. Had screen separation on all 4 previous Nexus 7 tablets but this one is perfect, no sign of screenlift after 3 days of heavy use. The backlight bleed is there but so minor that Im not noticing it under normal use.
I absolutley love this device!
Have some minor backlight bleed too, going to return it before the warranty period is over
I also have some back light bleeding and I get a nasty wave effect when I put a little more than normal pressure on just the left side above the one corner i have light bleed. Im out of warranty now, so that's no longer an option. Any one have a suggestion, I found some things about the Transformer suffering from the same issues but not much help.
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I also have some back light bleeding and I get a nasty wave effect when I put a little more than normal pressure on just the left side above the one corner i have light bleed. I'm out of warranty now, so that's no longer an option. Any one have a suggestion, I found some things about the Transformer suffering from the same issues but not much help.
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The Asus and Google warranties are for one year. You can still return it.
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I also have some back light bleeding and I get a nasty wave effect when I put a little more than normal pressure on just the left side above the one corner i have light bleed. Im out of warranty now, so that's no longer an option. Any one have a suggestion, I found some things about the Transformer suffering from the same issues but not much help.
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I have had this wave/ripple effect on all the Nexus 7 tablets that I received as replacements. I think it is present on all Nexus 7 tablets out there. So its something we have to live with I guess.
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I have had this wave/ripple effect on all the Nexus 7 tablets that I received as replacements. I think it is present on all Nexus 7 tablets out there. So its something we have to live with I guess.
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thanks for the info I noticed this too however I had this happen on my nook tablet too
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Just got my replacement Nexus 7 but noticed that it has some backlight bleed. Should I return it or is this Normal? See picture
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I have it on my display, for me isn't a big problem, but If it is for you just change it.
Thx for the reply loscamos! Do you have same amount of bleeding?
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Do you consider bleeding on picture to be minor? The picture shows the tablet in a dark room with 100% brightness just to show the bleeding. I can see it on dark picture on normal brightness aswell but its not as noticeable as on picture.
I have the tiniest bit of bleed which is hardly noticeable but I have to admit that's more than I would call acceptable. Especially if you can see it sometimes whilst using apps.
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Thx for the reply loscamos! Do you have same amount of bleeding?
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Do you consider bleeding on picture to be minor? The picture shows the tablet in a dark room with 100% brightness just to show the bleeding. I can see it on dark picture on normal brightness aswell but its not as noticeable as on picture.
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Do you normally sit in a dark room, with a black screen with the brightness turned all the way up? Do you notice it under normal use?
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Do you normally sit in a dark room, with a black screen with the brightness turned all the way up? Do you notice it under normal use?
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Not as much as on the picture but yes I notice it a little bit under normal use. I noticed it when I started the tablet under Google logo thats why I decided to download a backlight bleed test app and see how much It was. It is hard not to notice it because I know that it is there. If it is normal I can accept it but if there are tablets without it Im thinking: why should I accept it?
Here is the same picture taken with the normal brightness I use. Maybe Im just to picky??? Looks alot better.
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Here is the same picture taken with the normal brightness I use. Maybe I'm just to picky??? Looks a lot better.
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That's not too bad, I'd say that mine was just about the same. The only reason my bleed doesn't bother me is because I never see it unless I'm booting up.
I returned the one in the picture. It was my second return (the first one had 5 defective pixels), so the retail chain I bought it from refused to exchange it for another and gave my money back (if you're from Romania, I'm talking about Altex, a bunch of unprofessionals, they think that the retail buisiness is all profit, no responsibilities/losses/putting costumer satisfaction in front of apparent financial gain). It looks worse than yours, but my first one, the one that had the defective pixels looked better than both yours and my second one from that point of view (the first one had some light bleed, but distributed over a larger area).
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I returned the one in the picture. It was my second return (the first one had 5 defective pixels), so the retail chain I bought it from refused to exchange it for another and gave my money back (if you're from Romania, I'm talking about Altex, a bunch of unprofessionals, they think that the retail buisiness is all profit, no responsibilities/losses/putting costumer satisfaction in front of apparent financial gain). It looks worse than yours, but my first one, the one that had the defective pixels looked better than both yours and my second one from that point of view (the first one had some light bleed, but distributed over a larger area).
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Yeah that one on the picture is much worse. Im swedish and the company I bought mine from has been extremly understanding and helpful. Have had a fair share of "bad luck" with the Nexus 7. But Im leaning towards keeping this one, as I recall it all my Nexus tablets have had some degree of backlight bleeding. Maybe the ones without it are rare????
Those pics are bad, return it. I had one with less lightbleed than that, but it still bothered me so I returned it, and am so glad I did
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I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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It's a personal thing as to how much light bleed you can tolerate, and some light bleed is going to occur on almost any LCD panel.
Good news is, it's not a condition that gets worse (usually) so what you have now is all you'll have. And it sometimes diminishes as the hardware is "broken in" (but don't get your hopes up).
In other words, if you have to go looking for it, chances are you can live with it. If it's not bothering you now, it's not likely to bother you more in the future. If it DOES bother you, RMA it, as it's likely to keep bothering you.
That's why.
wow, mine has no light bleed at all. That's pretty bad.
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I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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As croak says its a very personal thing, and i guess its a matter of how you use it, Personally I use tablets alot whilst travelling, normally overnight, and play movies etc, which means dark surroundings and dark backgrounds which then shows any obvious light bleed and it sticks out.
If you just use it during the day with bright colourful backgrounds etc then as long as the bleed isn't really bad then you'll be fine.
so far i've only found 2 tablets with no light bleed, the Acer A510 and the Sony Xperia Tablet S, unfortunately both had other issues, the the Sony waterproof tablet not being waterproof for example lol.
Do note that light bleed is going to look 10x worse when captured with a camera.
I do have some, but you can barely if at all see it with auto-brightness. Ha ha, idk why I get so picky about my displays. Especially considering i'll probably buy the new one next year.
Hi. I read a lot of light bleed issues.
Are there any without light bleed?
Is there a poll on this. I am curious about the ratio.
I am getting my nexus 10 today and will not be able to use it till the 25th.
I hope I wont be RMAing it on the 26th...
Thanks joe
I have purchased 3 N10s so far for myself, family member and a friend. All were purchased with 1 week or so gap and all 3 have backlight bleed to varying degree. Unless you have really bad bleed which is discoloured like too yellow, stick with what you have as there is every chance you might get worse piece.
While backlight bleed does not bother you most of the times, yellow one is whole different story.
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I have purchased 3 N10s so far for myself, family member and a friend. All were purchased with 1 week or so gap and all 3 have backlight bleed to varying degree. Unless you have really bad bleed which is discoloured like too yellow, stick with what you have as there is every chance you might get worse piece.
While backlight bleed does not bother you most of the times, yellow one is whole different story.
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Agree. My first one was the best, it was a relatively small bleed and it was white. I should have kept it. My 2 other replacements were yellow and that sucks. I am hoping my next replacement will be either no bleed or very small white bleed.
I haven't done a full-on light bleed test in a dark room yet, but I have not noticed any on my N10. So, if I have any on my screen, it's very mild.
I just received my N10 yesterday, so it's possible they've improved more recent ones...
I ordered mine the day it was released and I don't notice any at all either. I have not run a full test on it because if I don't see it (even when trying to find it) under normal usage conditions I do not really care if a test says I have it or not. Screen looks perfect to me so I am not really looking for reasons to not like it.
Would be good if you post on this thread to specify what is your BRIGHTNESS setting (full, auto, %, etc)
I have no light bleed on mine bought day of release.
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I don't notice any at all either. I have not run a full test on it because if I don't see it (even when trying to find it) under normal usage conditions I do not really care if a test says I have it or not. Screen looks perfect to me so I am not really looking for reasons to not like it.
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The same. Fantastic tablet and although some people do seem to genuinely have a defective screen, some people are totally nitpicking and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. If your screen is totally black you're not actually using your tablet for anything so these tests people are running are pretty unrealistic.
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I'm sure all LCD displays have light bleed.
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I am getting my nexus 10 today and will not be able to use it till the 25th.
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Christmas present then I guess? Mine is too but I convinced the wife to allow me to check it was fault-free and set it up with all my apps and settings so it's ready to go on Christmas day!
Whilst she was at work and it was my day off, I had a good 8 hours of fun testing
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The same. Fantastic tablet and although some people do seem to genuinely have a defective screen, some people are totally nitpicking and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. If your screen is totally black you're not actually using your tablet for anything so these tests people are running are pretty unrealistic.
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Completely agree with your comment. Some might have true issues. I can see that mine has a slight bleed on the right side but there will never be a time where I sit in a completely dark room and stare at a black screen. Even at full brightness the slight bleed does not affect the look of my tablet in any way. It's an all around beautiful device!
None i've noticed in normal use but also havent gone searching for it. If the only way you can see the light bleed is when the screen is completely black then who cares. If the screen is on and completely black all the time then you have others problems besides light bleed.
My n10 has very little to no light bleed
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None here. Got mine on Monday, expecting to have at least one issue...but not one so far.
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very slight bleed for mine, not noticeable until i turn up the brightness all the way up and really look for it with a black screen
Mine is perfectly fine. No issue.
Mine looks perfect. Of course I'm not looking specifically to see if I do. It amazes me how many people on the forums are going out of their way to look for issues with their tablet.
If it looks good while I'm using it and I have no issues I'm OK with that!!
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I'm not looking specifically to see if I do. It amazes me how many people on the forums are going out of their way to look for issues with their tablet.
If it looks good while I'm using it and I have no issues I'm OK with that!!
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Exactly. On any device, if you're looking for problems you'll inevitably find some but in the real world under usage you'll notice none whatsoever
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I did a bit more experimenting today. If I bring up a full-screen black image in a dark room with screen brightness at 100%, I can see some minimal light bleed in the lower two corners. My guess is, as others have said, that this is just going to be a given with these types of screens. I also noticed:
As soon as I set my screen brightness to auto, while still in a dark room with a full-screen black image, the light bleed was totally unnoticeable.
As soon as I turned on the lights in the room, with screen brightness still at 100% and a full-screen black image, the light bleed was totally unnoticeable.
So, for me at least, light bleed is only noticeable if I intentionally make it happen. Having the screen set to max brightness while in a totally dark room and a mostly black picture on screen is a pretty unlikely scenario in the real world. In normal usage I've never notice the light bleed, and I doubt I ever will.
I've been using my N10 since it was first released and the screen is perfect. Do you need unnatural or unusual conditions to detect light bleed?
I noticed there is a light leak in the Nexus 7 2013 when playing games with dark scenes. Here's a photo of mine:
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That specific area of bleed is present to some degree on most units.
That's my problem too.
Where can i get their support email? I'm thinking if i can keep it for awhile then return to them for replacement after 2 months. Can i do that?
@scandiun will you send it back?
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How about a picture of a "dark game" where you see this? Also, is your brightness all the way up? Put your brightness where you usually have it and show picture of real world use where you see this..
I think the whole light bleed thing is always blown out of proportion. Many people go to a black screen and then turn the brightness all the way up and think they have a giant issue when the truth is most would never see it at all under normal use.
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How about a picture of a "dark game" where you see this? Also, is your brightness all the way up? Put your brightness where you usually have it and show picture of real world use where you see this..
I think the whole light bleed thing is always blown out of proportion. Many people go to a black screen and then turn the brightness all the way up and think they have a giant issue when the truth is most would never see it at all under normal use.
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Of course I'm displaying a black image with brightness to the maximum. However, with brightness to the medium it's still noticeable on games like Mystery Room which have a black frame on dialog scenes. I tried to take a photo of it but the center of the screen gets oversaturated so does not reflect what you are seen in person.
In the iPad that doesn't happen, so if there's a difference there's a reason for it, and the reason is lower standards.
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How about a picture of a "dark game" where you see this? Also, is your brightness all the way up? Put your brightness where you usually have it and show picture of real world use where you see this..
I think the whole light bleed thing is always blown out of proportion. Many people go to a black screen and then turn the brightness all the way up and think they have a giant issue when the truth is most would never see it at all under normal use.
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A LOT of movies and tv shows have several dark scenes, some are all night time/dark. If you have even a little light bleed you're going to notice it. And don't be an apologist and say something like "it's a tablet, not a tv", even Google promotes it as a device for media consumption. No one should accept light bleed.
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How about a picture of a "dark game" where you see this? Also, is your brightness all the way up? Put your brightness where you usually have it and show picture of real world use where you see this..
I think the whole light bleed thing is always blown out of proportion. Many people go to a black screen and then turn the brightness all the way up and think they have a giant issue when the truth is most would never see it at all under normal use.
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I've noticed light bleed on top of my tablet, but it didn't bother me because it was faint and only noticeable, like you said, on a black screen. The build quality is still bad regardless if it bothers me or not, and I would think it's something to get people noticed about so it's fixed rather than brushing it off like it doesn't matter.
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I would think it's something to get people noticed about so it's fixed rather than brushing it off like it doesn't matter.
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I don't think it's something fixable by software. Rather seems the physical location of the backlight which of course you can't change.
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I don't think it's something fixable by software. Rather seems the physical location of the backlight which of course you can't change.
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I realize this, I think the quality control from ASUS is crap. When I say to get it fixed, I meant for future production models.
So for people that have returned theirs and waiting to buy another one down the line it wouldn't be a problem for them.
Might not even happen if people don't realize or make a fuss about it. Personally, the static sound issue bothers me more than this slight light bleed.
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I realize this, I think the quality control from ASUS is crap. When I say to get it fixed, I meant for future production models.
So for people that have returned theirs and waiting to buy another one down the line it wouldn't be a problem for them.
Might not even happen if people don't realize or make a fuss about it. Personally, the static sound issue bothers me more than this slight light bleed.
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I would rather go with a Samsung tablet, but they are still behind in terms of screen quality, for example the Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 or 8.0. So I will wait.
Anybody can confirm that the Galaxy Tabs don't have this issue?
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Mine was like this but I managed to sort it.....here is how
Get a mobile phone mobile repair kit from Amazon or eBay for a couple of quid, as long as it has a large flat pry bar in then that's all you need.
You may need to research this bit, but you tube how to take the back cover off nexus 7 2013 and follow their instructions to do so.
Once the back is off loosen all the screws you can see by one or two turns, lay the nexus on a flat surface and tighten the screws up pretty tight, usually a little tighter than they were before, turn the nexus on but be careful and run a light bleed app. Check any areas where there is light bleed, re undo the screws in the area and slightly bend the chassis (very lightly!!!) And let settle then re do up the screws, keep doing this until most of the bleed has gone. Finally, get the back case, slightly bend the case in on itself as with mine it was pulling more in one direction making the nexus chassis bend slightly. Please treat gently, don't be rough at all.then pop it all back together starting from the charging port making sure its lines up correctly.....and bingo, much less bleed.
The bleed seems to be because the chassis is very flexible and the screen is solid, and its just a matter of the screen 'settling' in the right place I guess.
I hope this helps people out.
If your not technical then I wouldn't try it as you could easily short something out, but it worked for me very well
Good luck
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I realize this, I think the quality control from ASUS is crap. When I say to get it fixed, I meant for future production models.
So for people that have returned theirs and waiting to buy another one down the line it wouldn't be a problem for them.
Might not even happen if people don't realize or make a fuss about it. Personally, the static sound issue bothers me more than this slight light bleed.
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I agree that quality control is crap. But that's what we get when we buy a tablet at this price point. Is it wrong to expect perfection when we pay our hard earned money to companies like Asus? No. But realistically, how many of us can say that our tablet is literally perfect?
I honestly feel that the Nexus line of tablets will never be perfect. They will always have some sort of issues. Asus just doesn't care because they keep selling millions of units. Unless there is a national boycott of buying Nexus tablets the issues will always be there.
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I agree that quality control is crap. But that's what we get when we buy a tablet at this price point. Is it wrong to expect perfection when we pay our hard earned money to companies like Asus? No. But realistically, how many of us can say that our tablet is literally perfect?
I honestly feel that the Nexus line of tablets will never be perfect. They will always have some sort of issues. Asus just doesn't care because they keep selling millions of units. Unless there is a national boycott of buying Nexus tablets the issues will always be there.
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The screen itself is not that bad. It's better screen that ipad mini retina.
Mine has light bleed aswell on top center of the screen but as it was stated, it doesn't bother me since it's not noticeable during everyday usage. Only time I can see it perfectly is during booting where the screen is totally black.
Now, I also believe this is the case regarding all the other occurencies and people just blow it out of proportion.
Also, if it is that bad, just return it, or post on the appropriate threads. There are already millions of threads here and everywhere else about this...
It's annoying.
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Mine has light bleed aswell on top center of the screen but as it was stated, it doesn't bother me since it's not noticeable during everyday usage. Only time I can see it perfectly is during booting where the screen is totally black.
Now, I also believe this is the case regarding all the other occurencies and people just blow it out of proportion.
Also, if it is that bad, just return it, or post on the appropriate threads. There are already millions of threads here and everywhere else about this...
It's annoying.
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In the end it's not that important, it's much worse the sound issue.