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Just got my 003 Evo!

Returned my 002 Evo to the horrible radioshack and went to bestbuy mobile and bought myself a new Evo.
Things I've noticed at first glance. The epson screen and the battery cover. The screen is noticeably much more vivid and brighter. The matte cover on the back has a great finish and feels like a Nintendo DSi. No more light leakage!!! Woot! And odd but the power button responds much smoother and feels a lot better when pressed down.
Also some info I got from the reps there were that Sprint is going to put out another update to fix the 30 fps limit. Great news and I played around with the black and white demo evo. It has a GLOSSY finish which totally turns the phone off to me, because of finger prints and it looks incredibly ugly in my opinion.
I checked the firmware on my evo and it's still 1.32.651.6! I can still root my phone!
DT10.06.17 is my build date.
This is the Evo I should've received during the launch date. This phone is incredible!
Edit: After playing with the phone today, the speaker is much louder & the call quality is much clearer and louder than my 002.

Yay for you.
I too am still on old version...but wonder how can we get to any new updates if they all locked like new OTA. Hope this only means (yay devs) that we just have to wait a little longer between updates to get new stuff.
That 30fps fix would be nice to see...but store reps lie like rugs. (Oh wait, did I say that outloud?)

casual864 said:
The epson screen ... is noticeably much more vivid and brighter.
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Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?

_Burst_ said:
Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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I had launch day 002 and had to swap my OTA bricked EVO and IMO the new screen is waaaay better.

_Burst_ said:
Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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The Epson screen is higher quality than the Nova.

EtherealRemnant said:
The Epson screen is higher quality than the Nova.
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I've seen this stated both ways on this message board. I think that it comes down to preference.

There's no way that the Epson screen is brighter than the Nova. Might yield more accurate colors, but out of the thousands of reports, the Nova is much brighter always. Are you sure you have an Epson screen? Not all 003s are Epson (as it's my case). I'll only believe it when I see pictures.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.

kellte2 said:
I've seen this stated both ways on this message board. I think that it comes down to preference.
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Yes, this statement is correct. However Epson has truer blacks without purlish hints

_Burst_ said:
Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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Epson: Better quality, not as bright.
Nova: Purple tent, brighter.
Or that's how I would put it.

Why are so many people thinking that if its 003 its Epson? I got a build date of Jun 16 and its Novatec. So they know the problem exist and they keep sending phones with Nova. I think there is something else involved in there.

casual864 said:
I checked the firmware on my evo and it's still 1.32.651.6! I can still root my phone!
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Thank god I'm buddy's with the radio shack guy, he's getting me a new one even though I kinda don't even need one. So he will not update it if I ask him to not update it....I'm just not sure which screen I prefer. I love the Nova screen, I just can't imagine a screen looking much better. If the Epson isn't as bright that kinda sucks, though more accurate colors do sound good...and then there is the issue of the 30fps thing. The hack we have currently works out awesome on my Nova...I wouldn't want massive tearing, however if they do address the bug then it is a moot point.
Buuuut I don't think that they are ever going to. I might just turn down the new one and deal with my slight light leak and very very minor screen lifting. It hasn't gotten any worse in 2 weeks.
Hmm, decisions decisions....

There is that "fix" for screen separation that involves a hair dryer. I've been wanting to try it as people who have done it say it works. Plus people with N1's said they had the same problem and the hair dryer "fix" does the trick.

A quick way to tell which screen you have is with the "Power Control Widget" If you cycle through the brightness settings and it instantly changes you have a Epson, if it fades in and out for each change you have a Nova. At least that's what I have been reading in the forums.

_Burst_ said:
Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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MikeBrWade said:
A quick way to tell which screen you have is with the "Power Control Widget" If you cycle through the brightness settings and it instantly changes you have a Epson, if it fades in and out for each change you have a Nova. At least that's what I have been reading in the forums.
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Instant brightness change. I also compared it to my GF's launch day 002 and they are hugely different in screen colour/sharpness.

Hm true it's not as bright as the nova only difference is in direct sunlight, BUT the colors are much more vivid and yes I do have a epson. Tried the power control widget and my screen doesn't fade like it use to, it changes the difference in a split second. My build date for the phone is not bad either. DT10.06.17.

Yellow tint on screen

I have the Verizon LG g3 and when I compared it to my LG g2, on white backgrounds the g3 screen is clearly more yellow or warm compared to the g2. Is anyone else experiencing this?
Do you think it's worth to try to exchange it for a New one?
Sent from my LG G3

The G2 was actually too blue, as are most phones. True white is slightly creamy to most eyes. Most people are used to white being Titanium Dioxide white they use to colour plastics, cosmetics and ceramics, but that is actually blue.
However the G3 is a bit too yellow, it may fade over time, sometimes it does. I rooted mine and adjusted the screen temp a bit.

The screen on mine is too yellowish for my taste, will get an exchange device tomorrow, if this one will be as yellowish, I will return it immediately and go for another device.
I don't care if the G2's screen is too bluish or whatever, I really liked it's display, but the G3 screen is to dimm and "warm"

ChrisM75 said:
I rooted mine and adjusted the screen temp a bit.
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Could you post which app/setting you did this with?

I loved the "cool" display of the G2. That G2 is still my favorite phone. Even having the G3, I miss it. Still my favorite display also (color and temp wise).
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Just got the replacement, sadly it's display is even more yellowish, so it will go back too the next days, will get a used G2 instead and wait what this year will bring on.
Really sad because I really like the G3, but can't stand the display...

TheStickMan said:
Could you post which app/setting you did this with?
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@ChrisM75
+1

TheStickMan said:
Could you post which app/setting you did this with?
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I used Trickster MOD and set the colours to 238,238,255. Its still a little a warmer than my G2, but its no longer beige! Slightly yellow is right for whites, but my G3 was almost brown!
Now I just need to fix the back light, its too dark on auto.

Fir3blade said:
Just got the replacement, sadly it's display is even more yellowish, so it will go back too the next days, will get a used G2 instead and wait what this year will bring on.
Really sad because I really like the G3, but can't stand the display...
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Really sad that people are too used to wrongfully calibrated screens. I even rant to LG with straightly opposite demand a while back http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2299888 and seems like they listened and made a right decision to calibrate G3 perfectly. Their OG Pro had too blueish display around 8000K with almost green yellows, my eyes were bleeding

Not too sad I guess, as white on the G3 looks like there is a yellow screen protector on the screen...
Next thing is that the yellow screen in combination with its low contrast just looks awful.
But everyone has a different taste, so it will look nice for a lot of people, but not for me...

And by the way, why is it so many twin threads around here? Wasn't it better to discuss pro and cons of G3 display in the already existed and full of comments thread as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782251 ? I think it would be more proper and lead to more constructive way of discussion

Billy Madison said:
And by the way, why is it so many twin threads around here? Wasn't it better to discuss pro and cons of G3 display in the already existed and full of comments thread as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782251 ? I think it would be more proper and lead to more constructive way of discussion
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Agree with you on this ?

Screen has a yellow tint

I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.

RMA

A more ironic comparison could never have been made. LOL!

mk92595 said:
RMA
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I have a feeling that will ultimately be necessary. It just sucks because I REALLY don't feel like dealing with the hassle.

Thats the only benefit of Google Play.
You got your phone first but if I have to RMA (If I ever get the phone) they will send me a replacement first.

Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.

Hope this isn't by design. With LCDs, this could be a bad backlight. Color temp isn't controlled by a backlight with AMOLED, though, so I'm not sure how this could be a hardware problem. More than one phone has been released where manufacturers tried the "warm" color temp route before customers complained and they patched a cooler temp. Even iPhone went through it.

selayan said:
Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.

bholyk said:
I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.
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Most people prefer a cooler display. If it's just the color profile, it'll be fixed by someone in a matter of days. The plus of an open phone.

elkay said:
The plus of an open phone.
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Amen to that

rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.

I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.

Tsukasa Buddha said:
I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.
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It's usually done at the kernel level, but could be made to be adjusted outside of hardcoded settings if coded to do so.

rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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Agreed. Looks like the N6 is more color accurate and the 1plus1 looks blue

djkinetic said:
I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.
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I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.

bholyk said:
I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.
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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.

bholyk said:
I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.
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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol

hitzand said:
Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.
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I was thinking the same thing but when I read about it online it said that most of the time if it is a glue issue then the yellowing is more splotchy and not an even full screen distribution. But either way I will give it some time to see what happens

elkay said:
They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Good to know, thanks

G4 white static flash display glitch! POLL

Anybody else have this odd screen glitch anywhere on their display. Its like half a second white flash once in a while when I'm on Tapatalk, or the Amazon app or other apps.
Maybe its a bad display of my G4 or a 5.1 bug?
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I've since replaced my G4 with another new one with zero issues.

Should of added more to the poll, but my G4 is with TMO USA. Maybe the glitch is carrier independent.

Ever figure out the cause? I'm debating returning the phone

I saw this today on an H815 unlocked model on display at Best Buy. Only saw it when looking at a particular photo with a bunch of horizontal lines on it.

dipole said:
Ever figure out the cause? I'm debating returning the phone
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I think a software update should fix this or apps updated to support LP 5.1. I've only seen the glitch when I'm using an app, never on home page, or dialer, etc.
Hopefully its not a display defect.
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I saw this today on an H815 unlocked model on display at Best Buy. Only saw it when looking at a particular photo with a bunch of horizontal lines on it.
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Odd...

Nothing as described on my TMO variant.

could it be because the phone is in game mode which is a battery saving mode.

Here's the image I saw this problem on yesterday. Download it to your device, open it in the LG gallery app, and in portrait orientation, double tap the image to zoom in a bit. I saw the flickering on the stairs in the picture.
http://www.colbybrownphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Vista-House-HDR-LG-G4.jpg

gtg465x said:
Here's the image I saw this problem on yesterday. Download it to your device, open it in the LG gallery app, and in portrait orientation, double tap the image to zoom in a bit. I saw the flickering on the stairs in the picture.
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Nope.. mine seems fine..
Am I supposed to scroll around really quickly while zoomed in or something?

Just picked up my white Verizon g4 last night, haven't noticed this problem

Today on an international version, while using internet app to read this site, the screen gently faded really white, then a few seconds later faded back to normal again. It continued like this for prob 30 seconds. Leaving the app didn't help, but getting some black colour on the screen stopped it. No idea why it was happening... Something iffy with the display and maybe power saving though. Nervy now!

Sfkn2 said:
Nope.. mine seems fine..
Am I supposed to scroll around really quickly while zoomed in or something?
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No, it happens while you are not moving the image or touching the screen at all. Might not work with that exact image I linked because the image on the device, while the same picture, was at a higher resolution I believe.
edit: I'll go back to the Best Buy today and film the issue so people can see what we're talking about.

Well only 3 people with this glitch? Maybe we have a defective display! I have 14 days to exchange it for another new one.
If your having this problem, please do the poll. Thanks

MicroMod777 said:
Well only 3 people with this glitch? Maybe we have a defective display! I have 14 days to exchange it for another new one.
If your having this problem, please do the poll. Thanks
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I suspect all have it, but it's hard to trigger. After I get a video of it at Best Buy, I plan to go around to some other stores like AT&T and see if the demo units there also have it.

Well crap. It was less noticeable on the G4 at Best Buy today. I could just barely see the flickering with my eyes, and it was impossible to capture on camera, at least without a tripod.

gtg465x said:
Well crap. It was less noticeable on the G4 at Best Buy today. I could just barely see the flickering with my eyes, and it was impossible to capture on camera, at least without a tripod.
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But you did see the flicker. I've noticed it could be a super fast flicker barily noticilbe to a 2 second square section looking like a static tv like on the movie poltergeist.

Yeah it's really quick, too quick to get a screenshot. It's mainly on scrollable apps. Just a thought, anyone using nova launcher? Maybe it's an artifact

TMO G4 here and I get a screen glitch occasionally. I can't consistently recreate it. It happens for a split second. The screen static affects about a quarter of the screen.
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But you did see the flicker. I've noticed it could be a super fast flicker barily noticilbe to a 2 second square section looking like a static tv like on the movie poltergeist.
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mine does that 2 could it be the kernel needs to be optimized a little better. Its like its underclocked to far or something. When I try to underclock and undervolt my nexus 6 i get similar issues. i bet they will be able to fix it with a kernel update im gonna go ahead and exchange it out

My personal G4 arrived yesterday and so far, after using it for about 7 hours screen time, I have not seen this issue. I know what the issue looks like too because I saw it clearly on a model at Best Buy. So maybe it is a defect in some models? Or maybe it only affects some firmware, because I doubt the Best Buy model is running the same firmware as mine, which is from Asia.

Screen issues in SUNLIGHT .A very unhappy LG Fan.

Let me start by telling you that I am a fan of LG screens and lcds and I can't stand the AMOLEDs on cellphones and the unnatural colors. I have an LG TV, LG monitor and had G2 and the G3. I am a new owner of the G4 that I just purchased yesterday.
The reason I switched to this phone is to have better camera and better visibility in sunlight which is where I work. I work outside and need good sunlight visibility and take a lot of photos and videos outside.
The problem I have and I'm sure all the G4 owners will have this, is that the color of the screen fades out especially the greys and the blacks on screen. I'm not having the typical light bleed here. the whole screen fades out almost turning very very grey with texts and other colors fade out in color.
Its doing it on a cloudy day as well. Ive swtiched the phone out to a new G4 because of this problem and the issue is still there with the new phone. I'm really shocked by this because all of the reviews going around the net are raving how its visibility is great in sunlight!
I think LG messed up really bad here, made the display awesome indoors and wasn't fully aware that the lcd is sensitive to sunlight.
I was wondering if anyone else is noticing this problem.
To do the test, go to a random website or some site with text which is more noticeble than other colors(grey texts turn really white so its a better test), hold the phone out for 3-5 seconds then look at the phone. You'll notice that the texts are very grey or even white. It has to be done in natural sunlight. It wont work in indoor lighting.
Then turn the phone upside down for 3-5 seconds then look at the text again to see it come back to dark black or visible color.
Please tell me I'm not the only one noticing this....
I might never come back to LG after this one... At least for my cellphones...

I don't even think it's fixable with firmware updates... oh and my brightness is on 100% when I test it. I've tried it with auto as well and same thing with the first G4 and the new G4 I switched out.
I would hate to pay a restocking fee of $50 just to return the phone.... LG what should I do?!

Yes - I've seen this twice when outdoors at work this week. Hoping it's a software issue they can address? What has been said in the past?

Thanks for the reply. I hope its a software issue as well but I doubt it... I looked all over the internet and not one thing has been said...
I can't believe all the reviews are raving about the visibility outside.... how is this better than G3??? even the G2 had better visibility

I think its like the Note 4 it goes into a high contrast mode, but I use Lux Light for auto brightness and it doesnt do it anymore

Agree on that.
Additional the display isnt as bright as LG made me belive, my G2 is noticable more bright than my G4 ?
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This is a design by LG - to lessen the contrast in direct sunlight, so that you can supposedly can see more. If you cover the light sensor, it'll revert. It only does it at 98% brightness or higher.
It doesn't help me, but it's doing what it's supposed to..

I have lux full version and it still does that...

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I have lux full version and it still does that...
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Yes, that's because LUX controls brightness, not contrast.
You're talking about the contrast changing to lessen when under bright sunlight, no?
Did I completely misunderstand this thread?

How is that a design... Its not contrast... It doesnt do that indoors... It fades out everything

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How is that a design... Its not contrast... It doesnt do that indoors... It fades out everything
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You can't replicate this indoors when you have 100% brightness on? That's weird, because I can...
How is it not contrast? Darker colors are not as dark in comparison to the lighter colors...
Does this video work for you:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg4/comments/38hfrw/lg_g4_the_little_things_hidden_features_maybe_not/

Yeah it doesn't detect it tell the lux gets really high, but if you take a flashlight to your sensor it will turn on. But either way its still easy enough for me to read I dunno guess I got good eyesight

I just took whole bunch of pictures of my kids at the pool full sun. I have a nexus 5 and 6 and the G4 is almost in another league as far as outdoor visibility imo. At least with the camera app. Haven't had the phone for long so will have to report back if I see this issue

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This is a design by LG - to lessen the contrast in direct sunlight, so that you can supposedly can see more. If you cover the light sensor, it'll revert. It only does it at 98% brightness or higher.
It doesn't help me, but it's doing what it's supposed to..
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Yeah it doesn't detect it tell the lux gets really high, but if you take a flashlight to your sensor it will turn on. But either way its still easy enough for me to read I dunno guess I got good eyesight
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Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???

skym0903 said:
Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???
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Sorry, but I don't know. My eyes have gotten used to this, but I'll admit - it was weird in the beginning because I started thinking that my phone had weird viewing angles and thought it was a defect.

skym0903 said:
Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???
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It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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Good to hear it's by design. Still weird though - came from a note 3 and it didn't do that. Will now relax!

LancerV said:
It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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I use google keep for my main home screen and I hate how it fades out... At least give us an option to turn it on and off...
Is there a hidden settings in the phone where I can change it maybe??
I'm try to find something myself as well.

LancerV said:
It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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pcoulson said:
Good to hear it's by design. Still weird though - came from a note 3 and it didn't do that. Will now relax!
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Yup good to hear that its not a defect. Still annoying me tho since Im outside most of the time...

The funny thing is that when I called LG from the Tmobile store they didnt even know about it. Thats why they swapped out the phone for me. Good CS