[8.1 Preview][Q] HW changes -> Unhappy Face - Windows 8 General

By the way, love the fact they changed the BSOD to an unhappy face. Like that's going to make me feel better.
Anyhow, I threw 8.1 preview on the build box and one thing I noticed - even if I change RAM it seems to throw it in a fit.
Most times so far it seems I've had to reinstall. Anyone else with similar experiences?

garwynn said:
By the way, love the fact they changed the BSOD to an unhappy face. Like that's going to make me feel better.
Anyhow, I threw 8.1 preview on the build box and one thing I noticed - even if I change RAM it seems to throw it in a fit.
Most times so far it seems I've had to reinstall. Anyone else with similar experiences?
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Be aware that if you do a normal shutdown it hibernates the kernel instead of a shutdown (fast boot, saves RAM image to disk) so that will cause a BSOD so remember to do a cold boot or restart and pull the plug in the BIOS screen.

jessenic said:
Be aware that if you do a normal shutdown it hibernates the kernel instead of a shutdown (fast boot, saves RAM image to disk) so that will cause a BSOD so remember to do a cold boot or restart and pull the plug in the BIOS screen.
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Now it makes sense! Wasn't aware of this, thanks!
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Phone Keeps FREEZING!!! What the heck Samsung?!!!

My galaxy S freezes out of the blue, and i can't even turn it off. Sometimes i look to check the time, and noticed the phone is turned off. Both problems are only corrected by taking out the battery, and putting it back in...and then waiting for it to happen again!
Is this a software issue that 2.2 will fix? Should I exchange for a new one, or will all of them have the same problems, if bought from the same place? (Best Buy in Vancouver Canada)
either your battery is not good, or your got a defective phone
the new SGS out of the box works smooth
what is your firmware version?
type in
*#*#1234#*#*
Sounds like a bad phone. I got mine from one touch in delta and it has been perfect. Return asap and get yourself a working unit.
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Thought you meant lag. Mine lags a lot (stock firmware) and sometimes "freezing" seems the word.
But no, that's not it. Perhaps you can try a hard reset and check your sdcard too, something isn't ok.
I'm actually experiencing the same issue. My phone goes black and seems to be happening more in low wireless connection areas. Like in a mall. With the the *# code I get I9000UGJG9.
if you have LAG issues, install the one click lag fix in the development area
problem solved
Its not LAG issues it a complete freeze issue. My phone goes black like standby mode and will not come out of it. The only fix is a battery pull or holding the power button for 6 seconds. The same issue as the op.
TDS1234 said:
Its not LAG issues it a complete freeze issue. My phone goes black like standby mode and will not come out of it. The only fix is a battery pull or holding the power button for 6 seconds. The same issue as the op.
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that is a factory defect
take it back, exchange it for a good one
this latest firmware is really good, you should not see anything like that
Allright will do. I figured as much I didn't want to bring it back I already purchased some apps. Guess I'll have to wait for my store to get some.
TDS1234 said:
Allright will do. I figured as much I didn't want to bring it back I already purchased some apps. Guess I'll have to wait for my store to get some.
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you do not lose the Apps
once you log back into your Gmail account in your new phone, when you go into Android Market, they will remain in the Download section
those apps are saved in your Gmail account, not in the phone.
that's the cool thing about the android phones
so if you ever switch to say an HTC Android, or a Nokia Android, you can still re-install those apps (assuming they are compatible)
Oh sweet I wasn't aware of that. I sold a couple of the Galaxy S and I'm the only one with this issue as of yet. Hopefully it isn't a common one. I've been trying my best to convert Iphone buyers in most cases when I'm sold out to get this phone I just hope it delievers for my customers and they won't have the same issue as me.
Are u futzing with oclocking or changing CPU mode ? This causes hangs with black screen
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I believe this same thing just happened to me. Plug in my phone to recharge it (got it 2 days ago, so the battery still runs out quick) then tried to activate it and Lock screen wouldn't disappear when sliding.
mrfocus22 said:
I believe this same thing just happened to me. Plug in my phone to recharge it (got it 2 days ago, so the battery still runs out quick) then tried to activate it and Lock screen wouldn't disappear when sliding.
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you do know you don't just slide
you have to move the entire picture of the "slide" out of the phone frame for it to unlock
if you say only slide it partially, it will just bounce back and remain locked.
if you have thick fingers it wont work properly
you might be better off using the 3rd party unlock screens, specially the kinds that needs no sliding.
i have that issues nowadays too. randomly "freezes" on the black screen, i can call through my phone (ringing) but there's no notification / vibration or anything or sorts.
the only way is to reboot the phone and it'll randomly happen again after some time >.> and the call that i've just missed isn't showing on the call-log either.
i hope it gets better overtime or i'll just have to reflash!
ps. was fine before i tweaked my cpu settings in sleep mode, you might wanna disable that if you're using it.
Mine has the same problem and by the looks of things a lot of people have this issue. I called customer support and after sometime the rep admitted this and said it will be fixed in next build however I doubt that
Then there are probably lots of diff units out there. The phone shouldn't freeze unless you are using a beta/alpha firmware (pretty unlikely - i've tested more than 10 different firmwares without a freeze), or set the core clock of the cpu to a higher & unstable frequency (OC). people claim that their phone can do 1.2ghz - that's nice, but each chip has a different capability.

Did the lag fix benefit you?

I keep reading some mixed results. So questions are.
Did the lag fix work for you...
1. Yes my phone flies
2.didn't see a difference so uninstalled
3. Worked for a but got slow again so uninstalled.
4. Never had lag to begin with so haven't tried.
I finally installed one again and must say I see a difference in a few areas. One is the speedtest app, it used to take the test button like 6 seconds to pop up, now isntantly. Apps don't really open faster or anything, or browser either, but things just don't take forever to load, but will the fix do harm eventually is what I'm worried about..
1day after lag fix installed edit: OK so, the #3 started to show up, the market and speedtest app went back to normal load times ( still not bad maybe 6 seconds for market and same for speedtest) so I unistalled. Remember there's never been lag for me and since the 2 out of 3 apps I noticed it increase speeds in started going back to normal, I am fine with my gig back......
100 apps with 1.3 gb left... woohoo
I was going back and forth with different iterations of RayanZA's lag fix, and really do not see a noticeable difference once I reverted back to the original (tried one with ext4 support and it bombed on me, glad I had the nandroid backup done before I applied the lag fix).
Which version do you have?
EXT2 can be easily corrupted if it is uncleanly unmounted - during the phone crash, battery pull, etc. - I haven't seen the reports here that it is corrupted beyond the repair, but there were reports when people were running fsck on the ext2 partitions and there were errors.
EXT3/4 is a better choice, but again people are afraid that in the long run it will wear your internal sdcard beyond repair, since it is I/O heavy - well, I am not keeping this phone for more than 3 years, so I'd care less.
I do think Samsung went the lazy way with FAT32 variant, but I guess it was for the ease of use - you connect your phone to a windows PC, and there you have it as a flash drive.
lqaddict said:
I was going back and forth with different iterations of RayanZA's lag fix, and really do not see a noticeable difference once I reverted back to the original (tried one with ext4 support and it bombed on me, glad I had the nandroid backup done before I applied the lag fix).
Which version do you have?
EXT2 can be easily corrupted if it is uncleanly unmounted - during the phone crash, battery pull, etc. - I haven't seen the reports here that it is corrupted beyond the repair, but there were reports when people were running fsck on the ext2 partitions and there were errors.
EXT3/4 is a better choice, but again people are afraid that in the long run it will wear your internal sdcard beyond repair, since it is I/O heavy - well, I am not keeping this phone for more than 3 years, so I'd care less.
I do think Samsung went the lazy way with FAT32 variant, but I guess it was for the ease of use - you connect your phone to a windows PC, and there you have it as a flash drive.
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What's fsck ?
1 or 3?
It is insanely fast, but I just applied it 10 minutes ago...
smashpunks said:
What's fsck ?
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File system check utility in Linux. Wikipedia Entry
smashpunks said:
What's fsck ?
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Linux utility stands for Flie System ChecK
Personally, I did the app-cache-to-NAND fix. I had done the OCLF but it took waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long to boot up, and it broke google maps (froze every time and I had to battery pull). I noticed that with the OCLF, Quadrant scores were more than doubled, but the phone itself didn't feel much different. I guess I never noticed any lag or sluggishness, except during boot when the damned media scanner was wasting my time.
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I do think Samsung went the lazy way with FAT32 variant, but I guess it was for the ease of use - you connect your phone to a windows PC, and there you have it as a flash drive.
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You can do that with any Android phone, they all use FAT32 for the SD cards.
Samsung went with RFS due to the safety margin it supplies - journaling file systems are more resistant to corruption from being unmounted unexpectedly - and the fact that it's proprietary/closed source, and big companies LOVE closed source stuff.
I never noticed "Lag" to begin with, but with all the issues everyone else was having figured better safe then sorry yah know? I have done the OCLF and while I can't say I've seen any benefit, I can say i haven't noticed any Detrimental effects to the phone. So yah I have it installed no issues, beneficial or negative to speak of that I know of. lol
boystuff said:
I never noticed "Lag" to begin with, but with all the issues everyone else was having figured better safe then sorry yah know? I have done the OCLF and while I can't say I've seen any benefit, I can say i haven't noticed any Detrimental effects to the phone. So yah I have it installed no issues, beneficial or negative to speak of that I know of. lol
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I think the term lag is wrong.
I never noticed lag, however reading on slow loading of downloads in the market or their messaging app taking forever to load, I had to try again.
I do notice in the market things load faster and also like I said in op the speedtest apps test button pops up instantly now. Also just noticed in twitter it also loads and refreshes instantly now. So it does speed up loading times, but as far as lag??? There was never lag to begin with. Its loading times of some apps, and this drastically speeds it up.
I got like 100 apps installed and 390 mb left for more apps after it took 1gb for the fix (ext2), so unless it starts acting funny I'm gonna keep this installed.
Never got lag, but it does help some apps load faster....
Yea, really did help! No issues with market, apps taking ages to load, and messaging is faster.
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Made it faster
It definitely made my phone faster, although I never really had lag, just wanted it even faster, but ended up going back to stock as it was causing issues with a few games. If they could find a way to not make it a memory hog I would put it back on.
It did it yesterday using the market one. The phone was fast already and never really saw any lag. What I have noticed is the market is way faster too load and my games load faster as well, overall well worth it.

Clunky Like Windows 95? Hmmmm.....

First, I am straight vanilla on my EVO--stock ROM, no root, etc. But I have noticed a behavior pattern in Android that reminds me of Windows 95. I am not a heavy or light user, just standard. But I have noticed that after a month or so, the UI begins to get clunky or jerky or sporadic (put your own word here). But if I pull the battery for a complete restart, it runs as smooth as silk again for about another month, when I have to repeat the process.
This reminds me of the old days of Windows when even Microsoft recommended PC's and servers be periodically restarted to clean up memory issues.
You went a whole month without rebooting your phone??
I've noticed a little lag after a few days but I rarely go even that long without restarting for one reason or another. I always though periodically rebooting was just something that was good to do anyways.
That is pretty standard for smartphones. I restart mine every morning when I get out of bed.
the fact that you can go a full month without rebooting your smartphone says something I think.
Well, I haven't been tracking the interval on a calendar, but a month (plus or minus a week) seems about right. But I am astounded that this battery-pulling process is "common" knowledge or that anyone would would think that doing it every morning is an acceptable practice!! Seems that people that b*tch about wifi speeds and light leak would be putting a gun to their heads if they had to reboot every morning...LOL.
You are "stock" not "vanilla". The two are not interchangeable. Vanilla implies AOSP non-sense which is what you want if that ui is bogging you down. Try adw or launcher pro and that sense ui lag will be a thing of the past. A custom ROM like cm6, fresh, or baked snack will fix you right up.
Swyped on my EVO
I am pretty sure none of the people who answered pull the battery for a restart. It's as simple as getting a program (quickboot) from the market to do it or long press on the power button. That is not a hassle at all, and really, every smartphone should be rebboted from time to time. This phones are now mini computers and as such from time to time will need rebooting to keep things smooth.
+1, pulling the battery is not necessary to reboot. I don't know why Sprint would suggest that is any different than just rebooting..
whats the name of the App in the market that will reboot your phone for you at a specified time/date/interval?
I know its in the market (and requires root) but i cant remember the name
dmc971989 said:
whats the name of the App in the market that will reboot your phone for you at a specified time/date/interval?
I know its in the market (and requires root) but i cant remember the name
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I saw the thread about someone asking if an app like that exists, I didn't think it had been made yet.
I can see how someone who is not rooted could go a month with out restarting there phone. I mean most of my restarts happen because i am flashing a new kernel or rom or some combination of the 2.
What others listed is true though almost all smart phones need a reboot from time to time. Even newer PCS with win 7 you should reboot now and then so this wasn't only windows 95.
Also as stated above you dont need to pull the battery just power down and power back on and you should be good to go.
I think having to reboot your phone is a ridiculous notion. Just because it has the functionality of a mini computer doesnt mean that shortcomings of computers should be forgiven...
I mean, hell, portable gaming systems are getting more and more popular, but no one says hey its okay for my ds to overheat because its becoming more like an xbox 360...
icantdrawanime said:
I think having to reboot your phone is a ridiculous notion. Just because it has the functionality of a mini computer doesnt mean that shortcomings of computers should be forgiven...
I mean, hell, portable gaming systems are getting more and more popular, but no one says hey its okay for my ds to overheat because its becoming more like an xbox 360...
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hahahahaha...
good one
a power cycle is unavoidable, thats when your system cleans up and wipes whatever isnt needed like temp files and what not, even regular cellphones from time to time require a restart, all computers require restart, what im more interested in is how android handles memory fragmentation, in ubuntu, they recently released a kernal upgrade that allowed for ubuntu to handle huge file sizes but now requires defrag to be able to compensate for fragmentation caused by using such large files and i was told that android has some sort of 2gig limitation on the overall os and i believe apps have a 15mb write limit or something of that sort, would that be to try and avoid memory fragmentation??
icantdrawanime said:
I mean, hell, portable gaming systems are getting more and more popular, but no one says hey its okay for my ds to overheat because its becoming more like an xbox 360...
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That's not a fair comparison at all. Overheating is something that can damage an electronic device. I've never heard of a phone getting damaged by rebooting it.
Hell, for all we know, the OP doesn't even need to reboot. Running a task kill might have been enough to fix his problems.
IDK about you guys, but my battery dies so often and quickly, I don't think I can go more than a day without it dying at least one...
Whats the big issue with restarting? Takes like 1 minute.

[Q] Phone very slow, hang, unresponsive

Sometimes my phone will get very unresponsive such that any action takes many seconds to show up, and everything is very choppy. Often I see this when I wake up in the morning, but it happens often enough in general. It's so bad that I can't shut it down normally because it would take over 10 min (I've actually never waited to see exactly how long it would take). Thankfully I just found out about the three finger reset (volume up, camera, power), so I shouldn't have to pull the battery anymore, but it's still a problem.
I don't remember this happening before using custom roms. It happens with both DK28 roms I've tried - Bonsai and Viper. I believe it also occurred on the 2.1 Epic Experience, although I'm not sure. I guess I should try flashing to DK28 stock to see if that works, but it's a pain to set up everything each time. I figured I'd ask here to see if anyone else has had this problem and found a way to fix it. Also, I have a feeling this could be related to WiFi being turned on, but can't confirm yet.
My phone was stuttering yesterday.
But that was only after installing smartbench and using theonscreen keyboard.
However, since I've upgraded to dk28, the phone does take (relatively) forever to shutdown.
It'll go black but the bottom lights would still be on and then like a minute or two later it vibrates and actually cuts off
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When my phone does this, it reminds me that I like to have SeePU installed. It's pretty useful in pointing out the apps that are hogging CPU and most likely slowing down your phone.
For me it's often Touchdown, and I kill it and things are back to normal.
I have found a few things that are useful. When I need to reboot my phone I use quick boot from the market. Works every time. In between I use fast reboot also from the market. Try them and see how they work.
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Thanks for the app suggestions. I like the taskbar icons for SeePU. It's always been useful on my Mac (stats from iStat). Quick Boot makes things easier as well.
Next time my phone hangs, I'll see if some process is taking 100% CPU.
The phone hung again, and it seemed like something was taking 100% CPU, if the taskbar SeePU icon is to be trusted. I wasn't able to figure out what the culprit was though, because the phone pretty much stopped responding. Otherwise I would have loaded Android System Info to check.
can the epic 4g run this lag fix? if not, do we have any other ways to fix the lag?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784691
edit: nvm
So I was able to view Android System Info while my phone was hanging, but it did now show any processes taking 100% CPU, although the total CPU usage was 100%. My guess then is that the Android 2.2 OS is buggy.
However, I did find people who said leaving USB debugging on would fix it, so I'm going to try that.
For reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507
http://androidforums.com/desire-hd-support-troubleshooting/244553-100-cpu.html#post2140890
My phone hasn't hung for a while, so apparently enabling USB debugging prevents the hang / lag / crash / 100% CPU. Weird but I'm glad it works
Now the only problem is kswapd0 eating CPU sometimes. I think this is caused by lack of memory, but I'm not sure what I can do about it.

[Q] Screenshots make phone unusable

Anyone else having this problem? anytime I take a screenshot, the phone LAGS LIKE NOTHING ELSE. And it just makes the phone unusable until i reset it. It happens pretty freaking consistently and I'm getting really fed up with it.
LeoLopezDO said:
Anyone else having this problem? anytime I take a screenshot, the phone LAGS LIKE NOTHING ELSE. And it just makes the phone unusable until i reset it. It happens pretty freaking consistently and I'm getting really fed up with it.
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I just tried it out on some different screens. Smoothest screen shot I have ever taken. No lag or any difference noticed. I am using ART runtime, but I doubt that would make a difference.
Screenshot works perfectly here as well
well this is frustrating. And there's really no way to know what it causing the system to get all bottled up like that right? No real "task manager" to see what's sucking up system resources?
You can turn on a sort of Android version of top in developer options. Go to Settings > About phone and tap the build number 7 times. You will then have a new option in Settings called Developer Options. Scroll down near the bottom and turn on "Show CPU Usage". It will show loads and processes in near real time.
Not sure how helpful this is... Do you get lag when taking a picture? Wondering if it's a bottleneck in writing storage.
Have you tried clearing the cache from stock recovery? Or a factory data reset?
LeoLopezDO said:
well this is frustrating. And there's really no way to know what it causing the system to get all bottled up like that right? No real "task manager" to see what's sucking up system resources?
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Honestly you're probably better off just returning the phone and getting a new one. you're definitely still within your 14 days and should have no problem returning the phone to wherever you bought it. Believe me, if you're having problems from the get go, it's not worth it to hold on to that device. It's extremely possible you got a device with a defect. Just return it.

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