Smearing issues? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone know if the Note 3 has the same smearing issues the gs4 has?
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D_Magic said:
Anyone know if the Note 3 has the same smearing issues the gs4 has?
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A bit early to ask, no? And of all the professional reviews of the SGS4 none mentioned the issue. The only place I've ever seen it mentioned is on XDA. The N3 will have a different AMOLED panel, different GPU, different version of Android, and probably different graphics drivers. If the smearing is related to any of those things chances are the N3 might not be affected. I've read all the smearing threads on the SGS4 forum and they wouldn't have stopped me from getting a SGS4 and now not a N3. My view on issues that only can be recreated under non-standard conditions or that happen occasionaly (+/-5% of the time) under specific conditions is that they aren't that serious. We'll find out when some of the more "serious" sites like Anandtech, GSMArena, and Notebookcheck DE run the N3 through their objective tests whether it's using a bigger version of the SGS4 panel or a completely new AMOLED panel. The N3 has an inductive display so I'd guess that would require a completely new panel design. But I'm sure if there is smearing there will be no shortage of discussion on it.

BarryH_GEG said:
A bit early to ask, no? And of all the professional reviews of the SGS4 none mentioned the issue. The only place I've ever seen it mentioned is on XDA. The N3 will have a different AMOLED panel, different GPU, different version of Android, and probably different graphics drivers. If the smearing is related to any of those things chances are the N3 might not be affected. I've read all the smearing threads on the SGS4 forum and they wouldn't have stopped me from getting a SGS4 and now not a N3. My view on issues that only can be recreated under non-standard conditions or that happen occasionaly (+/-5% of the time) under specific conditions is that they aren't that serious. We'll find out when some of the more "serious" sites like Anandtech, GSMArena, and Notebookcheck DE run the N3 through their objective tests whether it's using a bigger version of the SGS4 panel or a completely new AMOLED panel. The N3 has an inductive display so I'd guess that would require a completely new panel design. But I'm sure if there is smearing there will be no shortage of discussion on it.
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Thanks for the reply! Early to ask? Don't agree with you on that one, some people had the chance to play with the device so i hoped someone searched for it..i know i would
+/-5% of the time, the gs4 has it a lot more then 5% of the time unfortunatly...they fixed it in the settings menu but when you use nova and have a really dark background...the grey widgets and some icons have the smearing issue every time you go to another homescreen so that's a lot of the time ( also happens in some apps like zedge )
I'm getting the Note 3 no matter if the smearing issue is still present and if it is i really hope i can live with it but after 2 months it is the reason i sold my gs4 so really hope it doesn't have it
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From all of the hands on video's I watched and comments I have read no one mentioned anything about lag, smearing or any other issues. It has been all positive.

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Very poor screen quality on the Note (Does S3 has this problem?)

Hi, I was just watching the "Iron Man 2 Trailer 2 (OFFICIAL)" on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQowwwwYa0
At around 1:46-1:48, the video quality is very ugly. Can you try it on your device? Anybody knows how to fix this problem? When playing the same video on my desktop monitor, it looks nice. When I played it on my iPodTouch, the quality was not as bad as the Galaxy Note.
If you are talking about the dark/black areas in the video it vary`s from note to note, my last one was really bad, my replacment is much much better, see thread below.
The time 1:46-1:48 in the video is not too bad on my note, I can see where the problems areas are in the video, they would have been really bad on my old note.
It`s a hardware fault, get your note swapped, though one owner went though five notes before he found a good one.
John.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430847
hajime_android said:
Hi, I was just watching the "Iron Man 2 Trailer 2 (OFFICIAL)" on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQowwwwYa0
At around 1:46-1:48, the video quality is very ugly. Can you try it on your device? Anybody knows how to fix this problem? When playing the same video on my desktop monitor, it looks nice. When I played it on my iPodTouch, the quality was not as bad as the Galaxy Note.
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Does S3 has this problem?
Tinderbox (UK) said:
If you are talking about the dark/black areas in the video it vary`s from note to note, my last one was really bad, my replacment is much much better, see thread below.
The time 1:46-1:48 in the video is not too bad on my note, I can see where the problems areas are in the video, they would have been really bad on my old note.
It`s a hardware fault, get your note swapped, though one owner went though five notes before he found a good one.
John.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430847
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lol...I don't really believe there is a Note out there with out that black problem. They think initially was a software problem...but it's still there with ICS
Somewhere I read that some devices have less obvious black crushing issue. I read that a person got a good one after 5 exchanges.
I also heard that there is an app called Screen Adjuster. Some users were able to reduce the problem to no black crush by making the following settings:
1. red: -3
2. red: -3, contrast: -20 to -30
3. contrast: -50-60
I tried all these but there does not seem to have any improvement.
Is there a better app or parameter set that I should try?
If there is no solution, shall I return it to the store for a refund and get the S3, keep exchanging until I got a better or perfect one? Thanks.
if you are referring to black dots while the screen is totally black (am i making any sense here)
its present on all oled/amoled screens
musashiro said:
if you are referring to black dots while the screen is totally black (am i making any sense here)
its present on all oled/amoled screens
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I am not sure if we mean the same thing. If you try the iron man 2 video link in the original post, you will know what I mean.
So, S3 has this problem because it uses an amoled screen?
hajime_android said:
I am not sure if we mean the same thing. If you try the iron man 2 video link in the original post, you will know what I mean.
So, S3 has this problem because it uses an amoled screen?
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i think it hasnt, (try to post a question on s3 thread) because it uses different type of amoled, cant say exactly but it is pentile vs non pentile or RGB vs non- RGB-something like that but i think there is differences between note amoled and s3 amoled
Did you watch it with quality at 720p? I've noticed if you watch things on the note in low resolution the black problem is much worse. At higher resolution it becomes far less noticeable.
duowing said:
Did you watch it with quality at 720p? I've noticed if you watch things on the note in low resolution the black problem is much worse. At higher resolution it becomes far less noticeable.
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Thanks but the one I mentioned in the OP is in HQ.
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i think it hasnt, (try to post a question on s3 thread) because it uses different type of amoled, cant say exactly but it is pentile vs non pentile or RGB vs non- RGB-something like that but i think there is differences between note amoled and s3 amoled
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There is a posting on FB (Samsung Galaxy Note - Screen Issues) that one person has the black crush problem on S3. I asked S3 users in the forum. There have been a few replies. They don't have such problem. Perhaps I should ask them to watch the video in the dark.
well i for one cant see the problem in that film.. looks good.
but yea movies with low res gets pretty messed up but thats an LCD problem also.. non resizable pixles.. now if we could get a mobile with an CRT screen
a 15kg phone would be nice.
heatfire said:
well i for one cant see the problem in that film.. looks good.
but yea movies with low res gets pretty messed up but thats an LCD problem also.. non resizable pixles.. now if we could get a mobile with an CRT screen
a 15kg phone would be nice.
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There is no such problem on my 3-year-old iPodTouch.
yes, galaxy note screen is crap, but mine was getting better after getting new screen replacement
and I think S3 doesn't have that problem, supercurio mentioned it on his twitter
Not all SGN have screen issue
i play this video , watch it on hd
focused on 1:46-1:48
i have no problem at all
i think the old note only have this problem
anyway the s3 not have this issue
My first Note had this problem - and if you "turned the screen off" in a dark room you could see lots of black dots and lines on the screen.
When i do the same with my new Note - the screen is perfectly clear, no dots, no lines. And i checked the video - no black crush effect. I guess this might be related somehow.
But still, when tested with this brightness image, my Note goes down to 3. 2,1 and 0 are not visible at all.
And another thing - my friend's S3 also have this problem. It's a little bit better, but still present, so i guess it's simply related to oled technology.
So, what suggestion do you have in my case?
I bought it in a retail store. The staff said that if I have any problem, just return it in 10 days. I took it to the Samsung Band Store in HK. I showed it to the assistant manager to get a second opinion. (He claimed that he worked in the tech support department for Nokia before.) This guy said that he has never heard of such problem. This is also the same guy who said that he has never heard of the Premium Suite. He also told me that there is no issue with the ICS and have never heard any complain. Before I bought the Note with GB pre-installed, he was nice but after I bought it. He became inpatient and said that he has nothing to do with that product. He just asked me to go to the service center. Then, I took it to a branch of the chain retail store where I bought it. The sales saw my Note. Then, he looked at the one on display. He said that since both Note displayed the same way, he was not sure if there is a problem with my Note. Then, he asked me to go to the Samsung service center. If the service center authorizes the exchange/refund, he will do so.
Akiainavas said:
And another thing - my friend's S3 also have this problem. It's a little bit better, but still present, so i guess it's simply related to oled technology.
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I checked on S3 today. The room was not dark. It was hard to tell but it looked like it displayed better within the frames I cited. However, in other parts, the image quality was quite bad (not related to black crush).
Some people said that the black crush is related to oled technology but some said that there is no problem with their Note (after several exchanges) or S3. I am confused...
I have this problem sometimes too, any solution for this because a friend had a problem too but was ok after sending it in

[Q] Any hardware issues to watch out for?

Hey guys, I recently got the HTC one x and many of you might be aware or the hardware issues and threads showing what to check when you receive delivery.
Any suggestions from guys who ready have the tablet or experience with Asus devices on what to look out before rooting and customizing just to realize we Have hardware fault...
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What I've read so far include
>Screen ghosting
>Dead pixels
>Screen flicker on low brightness
However your mileage, will of course vary. You will get more accurate results once production models start hitting consumers.
It occasionally kicks puppies.
Big_Den said:
What I've read so far include
>Screen ghosting
>Dead pixels
>Screen flicker on low brightness
However your mileage, will of course vary. You will get more accurate results once production models start hitting consumers.
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It was stated in a review a couple days ago (I'm not going to look up which one) that with more use, the screen ghosting issue goes away quicker and becomes unnoticed. The issue is mainly with the screen just needing to warm up after being powered off for a while or in most cases being the first time powered on.
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Asus have also said they've not been able to replicate the ghosting on production units.
Flickering has been pretty common with tegra 3 devices but tends to be fixed via software updates.
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Questions go in the Q&A section
I sure hope that those ghosting issues don't get worse over time. Or even better, may be Asus isn't talking out their a** and they've fixed the production units

Samsung and black clipping/crush

Hi guys, before i start I absolutely love my note. At first I thought the screen was too big, but now I could never go smaller. (now I know how women feel )
However, my biggest complaint is the black clipping/crush, which seems to affect people differently according to their individual note.
This evening I was reminiscing the music I listened too in my youth. One of the videos to a song I love nearly made me throw my note out the window, because of the black clipping. This video is the WORST case of black clipping I've seen during my ownership.
Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJvT6ruolA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I am stuck with my note until July at the earliest, when I can upgrade. I do not have the luxury of buying the latest handset as soon as it is released, therefore I will have owned my note for 18 months. I am not sure whether I will buy another Samsung device again. Yes they slack on releasing sources, but for me if they cannot get the basics of a good quality screen right on a high end device, they may as well give up now.
Up until my note, my previous 2 devices were HTC. The Desire and Sensation. Their screens were SLCD, and suffered no clipping. I am aware the cause of clipping is an OLED problem and i can see no power saving or display quality reason for an OLED display. Yes I've looked into ppi but seriously there is little difference.
Every android handset I've owned will only give a maximum of around 4 hours screen on time, regardless of what you do with it or settings you disable (pointless in my opinion, its a SMART phone)
I feel its time Samsung ditched OLED displays before they lose customers. I know s3 owners who changed from iPhone to android (hooray!) but because of the clipping there changing back asap. I keep telling them its a Samsung issue but they don't care. First Impressions count for a lot.
Anyway rant over, just wondered how other SGN users felt about this and how its shaped their future device choice.
King
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Did you miss this topic or didn't you search before you made the post?
I am aware of that thread. (I own a note so of course I am, Samsung knows yada yada yada *yawn*)
I was under the assumption that the general sub forum was for non development posts, which this is. So I apologise that I do not conform to your idea of a non development thread.
All I was seeking was similar experiances too my own, whereby I probably will not buy another Samsung device as long as they continue too use poor quality screens.
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Tom-Helge said:
Did you miss this topic or didn't you search before you made the post?
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In fact had you bothered to read my post correctly you would of seen this
"However, my biggest complaint is the black clipping/crush, which seems to affect people differently according to their individual note."
Now, to me that suggests I've done my research (I'm not a member since 2010 for no reason, post counts mean nothing)
All you've done is show me what I'd already known to a point, xda is going downhill
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kingears said:
In fact had you bothered to read my post correctly you would of seen this
"However, my biggest complaint is the black clipping/crush, which seems to affect people differently according to their individual note."
Now, to me that suggests I've done my research (I'm not a member since 2010 for no reason, post counts mean nothing)
All you've done is show me what I'd already known to a point, xda is going downhill
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Did you try gammatest.png image in a dark room?
dude that was the fav. song of mine from past and last time i have seen this video on a htc hd2 there was no such black clipping and now on my note it is so bad.. really it made me that much mad that i wanted to smash the phone on a concrete ground..
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This is very poor quality video. That is the first thing I noticed... Not only that I saw black clipping, but also white and gray clipping :silly:
So I'm not sure what I was more worried about. Whether because of a couple of squares that move around the screen (poor quality), or because some of these are gray black or white? (they all three appear crushed/cliped whatever) :silly:
The next thing I did, was look at the second video that was offered in the results, some (darker) HQ video (for ex. "theslowmoguys" videos are usualy very good quality videos and you have enough time to find critical parts of black cliping), and there is significantly less black clipping or no black clipping at all in hq videos
So I am not worried about that problem at all. Despite that, I'm in love with a black color of AMOLED screens. And I would buy another samsung product (Note3) because at Note2 this problem has been resolved
p.s. if you want a greyer black and you want solve this problem, you can download from play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5uZXRtYW5zbGFiLnNhIl0.
or some similar app:good:
my few cents
Thread Closed:
I don't really see a point to having this topic when there is already this one (and I would guess several others):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094222
Please post there to discuss it.
Thanks.
~ The-Captain

im now worried about my s4 screen being faulty after reading Q&A forum

Hi im new here my galaxy s4 is coming on 1st may and i just looked in the trouble shooting forum here one of the thread and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445 with loads of people with screen problems i hope its just software
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Hi im new here my galaxy s4 is coming on 1st may and i just looked in the trouble shooting forum here one of the thread and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445 with loads of people with screen problems i hope its just software
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Relax, since you haven't even received your phone yet I wouldn't worry. Besides, don't forget the people posting on these forums are a fraction of people who have received this phone and have no issue. People post when they have issues, not so much when they don't.
The pictures they took were taken with screenshots so its all software. The displays are fine. When a phone first releases someone always finds something that's not right with it. I find that's very minor compared to the screen seperation with the nexus 7 and light bleed with htc phones
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AMOLED problem forever: quality inconsistency
My Note 2 is much worse than my friends with greenish white and bad viewing angle (luckily it's also brighter)
No the pictures were not screen shots. Its definitely a hardware issue.
The pictures have the screenshot notification on the top... How is it not a screenshot where's the phone at then???
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ive been thinking the same thing... but in the back of my mind, most of the people who dont have an issue wont post in the troubleshooting forum. yet, all the people who have an issue, and post in q&a will be asking questions and troubleshooting problems.
if you dont want the negativity (problems, troubleshooting) try the general forum, or accessories forum.
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The pictures have the screenshot notification on the top... How is it not a screenshot where's the phone at then???
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Pretty sure the screenshots are trying to show where to look for the effect.
Oh yes Its definitely an issue with the new amoled screen ... go to every place that has a demo set and try to scroll the settings page (dark black background) and you'll notice immediately ... its like the screen has a refresh rate of 10 fps in black bg
Very embarassing for Sammy ... this is going to blowout into a huge media issue real soon, you'll see
Yeah the screen shot are only showing you where to look it says but a couple of pages in there's a YouTube video if you watch it in 1080p on a laptop you can see it I'm just paranoid now haha pay 600 pound for a phone that don't even come on the day it's meant to be delivered haha
Tell me which Samsung phone with amoled hasn't had some people complain about the screens. I would venture that 95%+ of those owners don't have a calibrated TV or monitor, or even close. I have been very fortunate to have almost all phones I have owned to have virtually perfect screens. I've seen much worse with demo monitors, whether they be phones, TVs or monitors and people oooh and aaah about how great they look. So right now I am shaking my damn head.
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If anyone with an s4 looking at this can you see the problem in 1080p videos or Facebook app or twitter or gaming as that's what I use my phone for
Ok. First thing, you start a thread ABOUT a thread. Why not just discuss it in the original.
Secondly, the smearing issue happens when scrolling in settings. Nowhere else. I'm sure you can live with it.
Mwah!
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No need to get cocky haha I was simply asking a question in a different forum room to see if anyone else had the problem and its been confirmed my samsung I think it's software related where they haven't set touch wiz refresh rate high enough so a simple update will sort it
s4
i came across this video on youtube this guy seems to be having the same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XE-a5h_bGs
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If anyone with an s4 looking at this can you see the problem in 1080p videos or Facebook app or twitter or gaming as that's what I use my phone for
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Yes. Just tried a video with a dark BG and a white person dancing. On low brightness you see weird artifacts sometimes. Also tried in Pocket, the text looks ugly when scrolling with dark theme.
can ou try on full brightness or 50 60 % and report back as thats meant to stop the issue
Mine seems fine... bit of a nit-picky thing anyways to be honest, hardly a common real world scenario...
shortie1987 said:
Mine seems fine... bit of a nit-picky thing anyways to be honest, hardly a common real world scenario...
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Scrolling on your screen is a real world scenario.
ste1164 said:
Scrolling on your screen is a real world scenario.
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One where a tiny, barely noticeable amount of stutter is going to destroy the browsing of a menu?
EDIT: OK, so it was so unnoticeable I missed it on my own screen, but I've noticed it to. Its hardly worth crying over though... as mentioned already, its pretty much only ever going to happen on the settings menu.
I can confirm that with the brightness turned up max, the purple tinge does seem to be reduced.

Should I BUY S4 or Wait even more! S4 Owners Advice Needed!

Advice from current S4 Owners Required!
One month before launch of S4 i sold my One X to buy S4 when it comes in market. When it finally came out, it had known issues of
>Screan Smearing/Pink tint
>Over Heating & Battery Drain
>Lags, Lags and Lags as compared to iPhone specially.
So i skipped S4 at launched and for the first i decided to try iPhone in my life, after 10 or so Android Phones!
NOW I WANT TO ASK FROM CURRENT S4 USERS, IF THIS PHONE IS STABLE ENOUGH AND FREE FROM ABOVE ISSUES FOR ME TO BUY IT NOW, OR SHOULD I WAIT S4 WITH GOOGLE AS I HATE TOUCHWIZ AND STOCK MAY BE LITE WEIGHT OR EVEN WAIT FOR NEXUS 5?
I like smoothness of iPhone, almost all softwares like, Viber, Skype, Facebook or more smooth and beautiful on iPhone than any android i ever used, they usually stutter on Android, my problem with iPhone at times is small screen, at times i feel smaller screen is blessing to carry phone around easily in pockets.
Sharing limitations of iPhone was taken care with Dropbox as i can share songs and videos with any phone via dropbox, at times i think of absolute sharing like in any Android Phone?
I have budget now a days to sale my brand new iPhone and add money and try S4 now? but on net too much confusion, thats why i ask users to give me there say.
Thanks in advance in case if you give me piece of your precious time here and give me your thoughts.
Kind Regards!
I have s4 its good in every aspect except the heating problem
If u play any game which requires a good level of ram than it gets heated up like an oven
U cant even put it on your ear after playing games
Rest all is good
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Feels like downgrade
I had a Galaxy Note II before S4 I9500, and to be frank, it feels like a downgrade. No amount of tweaking seems to improve the lag, overheats like crazy and battery life, especially when compared to GN II, is much worse. Screen is good, but really, cannot tell the difference with naked eye. The only benefit for me was the size, as GN II's size was starting to get at me.
adem_7 said:
I had a Galaxy Note II before S4 I9500, and to be frank, it feels like a downgrade. No amount of tweaking seems to improve the lag, overheats like crazy and battery life, especially when compared to GN II, is much worse. Screen is good, but really, cannot tell the difference with naked eye. The only benefit for me was the size, as GN II's size was starting to get at me.
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I don't know if its just me or I'm really a nitpicker. I have an officemate who has a note 2 and I can see the jagged edges of the icons on his screen. I must say the s4 is well worth it for a flagship device. I looked around today with a friend that is looking for his next phone.. we compared my phone to other phones and he's really amazed at my s4. He will get his own s4 next week.
I have the i9505 version.
Personally i didn't notice any overheating. Its same as s3 after 1h playing, just the s3 gets warm on bottom and s4 on top. I have nothing like some said here that phone got so hot that couldn't be touched
I noticed the smearing. Doesn't bother me at all and today was released new update , which is fixing the smearing problem.
LAGS? My s4 stock with all samsung's bloats on, is pretty damn smooth, i just noticed sometimes when closing multiple apps a bit of stutter in animations but nothing major here.
If you are not interested in Note 3 which anyway you will have to wait for, go for the s4. This is my opinion.
I remember when s3 came out with ICS on, was so so laggy and buggy and everything..after updates > jellybean was perfectly smooth.
So i'm sure s4 will get just better and better with every update.
If size isn't an issue, then wait for note 3, it will be a supreme device I feel so.
Aaryana said:
I have s4 its good in every aspect except the heating problem
If u play any game which requires a good level of ram than it gets heated up like an oven
U cant even put it on your ear after playing games
Rest all is good
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Well, it means this heating issue is having by majority of people, which means it is genuine issue and its not just playing games, i guess its by doing anything extensive, like chatting hard or surfing etc? So i should try to relax and may be wait how stock S4 pans out? as strangely i am doing with iPhone too, only smaller screen has advantage and disadvantage, at times i feel, both phones do OK, so better stick to iPhone and think about other things in life
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If size isn't an issue, then wait for note 3, it will be a supreme device I feel so.
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My dear, size is not that much of an issue, being a man here, but S4 had to be supreme of them all device as well if you remember, but cartoonish touchwiz is an issue, specially now as touchwiz often connected to lags. Plus with Note my concern is, Gosh we came out of Stylus Era, putting stylus again in phone, causing it to gain weight and size, you can't take notes on screen better then on actual paper i feel.
Yet i hope Sammy may not let you down again here with your expectation with Note 3, as you are saying, next time they will do a better Job!
My own little hope is Stock Android, but again Nexus 4 may be still have over heating less battery issues!
Dean-xXx said:
I have the i9505 version.
Personally i didn't notice any overheating. Its same as s3 after 1h playing, just the s3 gets warm on bottom and s4 on top. I have nothing like some said here that phone got so hot that couldn't be touched
I noticed the smearing. Doesn't bother me at all and today was released new update , which is fixing the smearing problem.
LAGS? My s4 stock with all samsung's bloats on, is pretty damn smooth, i just noticed sometimes when closing multiple apps a bit of stutter in animations but nothing major here.
If you are not interested in Note 3 which anyway you will have to wait for, go for the s4. This is my opinion.
I remember when s3 came out with ICS on, was so so laggy and buggy and everything..after updates > jellybean was perfectly smooth.
So i'm sure s4 will get just better and better with every update.
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So basically you are saying, Buy it and wait/hopes for updates to fix the problems, like stay on chances, little heating is not that of an issue, but something beyond that is not a pleasant feeling, but as people saying, its uncomfortable at times.
You are breaking news here i guess, that today smearing issue will be rest in peace, though i heard they are solving pink tint issue.
Moral of the story, which is sad, that, some users are having problems more than others, so i am not sure i will fall in which category, as usual!
adem_7 said:
I had a Galaxy Note II before S4 I9500, and to be frank, it feels like a downgrade. No amount of tweaking seems to improve the lag, overheats like crazy and battery life, especially when compared to GN II, is much worse. Screen is good, but really, cannot tell the difference with naked eye. The only benefit for me was the size, as GN II's size was starting to get at me.
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Yes and a lot of people share your thoughts, i wish if Sammy could concentrate on actual use and performance of phone instead of wasting times, on extremely useless gimmicks, and if you are amongst those who think these gimmicks are useful, then don't talk to me.
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So basically you are saying, Buy it and wait/hopes for updates to fix the problems, like stay on chances, little heating is not that of an issue, but something beyond that is not a pleasant feeling, but as people saying, its uncomfortable at times.
You are breaking news here i guess, that today smearing issue will be rest in peace, though i heard they are solving pink tint issue.
Moral of the story, which is sad, that, some users are having problems more than others, so i am not sure i will fall in which category, as usual!
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Its not about hopes, because it will happen and updates will iron out all the issues, they always did it properly for their flagships. It was confirmed that smearing is gone on the newest update, so i guess the rest of the problems will be ironed out soon enough. Its true some has more problems than others, but this happens on all phones, not only samsung ones.
Will see what else is fixed in the new update. Looks like some camera improvements are done also.
Dean-xXx said:
Its not about hopes, because it will happen and updates will iron out all the issues, they always did it properly for their flagships. It was confirmed that smearing is gone on the newest update, so i guess the rest of the problems will be ironed out soon enough. Its true some has more problems than others, but this happens on all phones, not only samsung ones.
Will see what else is fixed in the new update. Looks like some camera improvements are done also.
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You are painting a rosy picture here, if you are dead sure, all screen issues are solved, and if you hope, over heating issue will be resolved, then kindly let us know here too, for lag i guess stock android will be better, somehow i find touchwiz to be like chinese phones, and prefer stock android more!
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You are painting a rosy picture here, if you are dead sure, all screen issues are solved, and if you hope, over heating issue will be resolved, then kindly let us know here too, for lag i guess stock android will be better, somehow i find touchwiz to be like chinese phones, and prefer stock android more!
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I don't paint any rosy picture here, i was very upset last year with the s3 and all the SDS problems and all the rest, but samsung ,,fixed'' it with an update and things got better. It was confirmed by other users that flashed the new ROM that the smearing is gone. I'm not sure about the pink tint as this sound more a hardware problem on AMOLED screens, but if they will fix this somehow...even better. I have very very little pink tint at the bottom on the screen ( barely noticeable ) and this doesn't bother me. About the overheating, i guess i'm one of those which doesn;t have this issue, so for me at the moment everything is ok and i'm happy with my phone, even if this wasn't a planned upgrade, was because one of my s3's was stolen and i got the insurance out of it.
Dean-xXx said:
I don't paint any rosy picture here, i was very upset last year with the s3 and all the SDS problems and all the rest, but samsung ,,fixed'' it with an update and things got better. It was confirmed by other users that flashed the new ROM that the smearing is gone. I'm not sure about the pink tint as this sound more a hardware problem on AMOLED screens, but if they will fix this somehow...even better. I have very very little pink tint at the bottom on the screen ( barely noticeable ) and this doesn't bother me. About the overheating, i guess i'm one of those which doesn;t have this issue, so for me at the moment everything is ok and i'm happy with my phone, even if this wasn't a planned upgrade, was because one of my s3's was stolen and i got the insurance out of it.
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So you are one satisfied customer
usmanxhmed said:
So you are one satisfied customer
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Dean-xXx said:
I don't paint any rosy picture here, i was very upset last year with the s3 and all the SDS problems and all the rest, but samsung ,,fixed'' it with an update and things got better. It was confirmed by other users that flashed the new ROM that the smearing is gone. I'm not sure about the pink tint as this sound more a hardware problem on AMOLED screens, but if they will fix this somehow...even better. I have very very little pink tint at the bottom on the screen ( barely noticeable ) and this doesn't bother me. About the overheating, i guess i'm one of those which doesn;t have this issue, so for me at the moment everything is ok and i'm happy with my phone, even if this wasn't a planned upgrade, was because one of my s3's was stolen and i got the insurance out of it.
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I sent my wallet deep down my drawer, you want me to search for it again
usmanxhmed said:
I sent my wallet deep down my drawer, you want me to search for it again
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I don't where are you from and what s4 they sell in your country. 9500 or 9505?
I'm talking here about the 9505.
You can keep an eye on this thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252855&page=17
Soon users that will flash the new ROM will keep it updated if anything else is fixed, so you can decide.
Dean-xXx said:
I don't where are you from and what s4 they sell in your country. 9500 or 9505?
I'm talking here about the 9505.
You can keep an eye on this thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252855&page=17
Soon users that will flash the new ROM will keep it updated if anything else is fixed, so you can decide.
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I am from Pakistan, here we get officially in warranty unsubsidised 9500, some importers have also imported 9505 but thats without warranty!
People could not even find out yet which version is better, though i feel over heating is more of an issue with 9500!
usmanxhmed said:
Yes and a lot of people share your thoughts, i wish if Sammy could concentrate on actual use and performance of phone instead of wasting times, on extremely useless gimmicks, and if you are amongst those who think these gimmicks are useful, then don't talk to me.
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I don't get it, why does when Apple release features that are unique people see it as amazing and innovative while if Samsung does the same thing they are called "gimmicks"
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I don't get it, why does when Apple release features that are unique people see it as amazing and innovative while if Samsung does the same thing they are called "gimmicks"
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O yes!
This is a very good question!
usmanxhmed said:
My dear, size is not that much of an issue, being a man here, but S4 had to be supreme of them all device as well if you remember, but cartoonish touchwiz is an issue, specially now as touchwiz often connected to lags. Plus with Note my concern is, Gosh we came out of Stylus Era, putting stylus again in phone, causing it to gain weight and size, you can't take notes on screen better then on actual paper i feel.
Yet i hope Sammy may not let you down again here with your expectation with Note 3, as you are saying, next time they will do a better Job!
My own little hope is Stock Android, but again Nexus 4 may be still have over heating less battery issues!
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If you want stock android then you can go for stock google version of S4. It won't be directly available in Pakistan I feel so you will have to got for used one.
Regarding stylus, we it i useful as well as gimmek. Its up to you how you want to use it.

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